Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Arjuna]

Nothing in there showed that OS breaking out and fighting FT were canon...

Read it is completely.Hiro himself said KosArc is canon.If Hiro says it canon then........

 

[Jko]

Read it is completely.Hiro himself said KosArc is canon.If Hiro says it canon then........

I read it and only one person stated this not Hiro himself.

 

[Arjuna]

I read it and only one person stated this not Hiro himself.

You are getting away from truth.Hiro was himself involved in this Arc's animation.In one manga chapter he said this Arc is Canon.

 

[Jko]

You are getting away from truth.Hiro was himself involved in this Arc's animation.In one manga chapter he said this Arc is Canon.

The arc is not canon it's semi-canon for the Zentopia incident which reduce the number of Celestial Mages but FT nor OS were involved in the Zentopia incident. That would contradict the manga's canon timeline thus only a tidbit from that arc was actually canon. So what if Hiro was involved in the Arc's animation? When it goes against canon material then it's counted as non-canon. Hiro is working on the second movie but that movie was already stated it wasn't going to be canon as it doesn't fit in the canon timeline which is exactly the same with Starry Key Arc.

 

[Arjuna]

The arc is not canon it's semi-canon for the Zentopia incident which reduce the number of Celestial Mages but FT nor OS were involved in the Zentopia incident. That would contradict the manga's canon timeline thus only a tidbit from that arc was actually canon. So what if Hiro was involved in the Arc's animation? When it goes against canon material then it's counted as non-canon. Hiro is working on the second movie but that movie was already stated it wasn't going to be canon as it doesn't fit in the canon timeline which is exactly the same with Starry Key Arc.

Finally found it.Read this discussion of the first page.
https://googleweblight.com/?lite_ur...870958&sig=APY536xfQqUjTR1wUg40pcWGz930btLdSA

 

[Firepower]

The arc is not canon it's semi-canon for the Zentopia incident which reduce the number of Celestial Mages but FT nor OS were involved in the Zentopia incident. That would contradict the manga's canon timeline thus only a tidbit from that arc was actually canon. So what if Hiro was involved in the Arc's animation? When it goes against canon material then it's counted as non-canon. Hiro is working on the second movie but that movie was already stated it wasn't going to be canon as it doesn't fit in the canon timeline which is exactly the same with Starry Key Arc.

No worries. You are still a good debater. Sorry for yesterday. You got a backbone, not like the other two that said I'm an ass or and something rude, then they played dumb as if they didn't do anything wrong and pointed the finger at me instead. One of them never showed up again, the other stopped his bullshit. We need more guys like you that aren't afraid to step up without denying your actions later. Honest about your words, good or bad, and not playing stupid.

What natsulucy gave was evidence to prove the seis got stronger too. Nothing more. Your argument about Laxus being stronger is still reasonable, just not the part about Cobra being weaker than Max. As soon as Jellal unloads his arsenal then Laxus vs Jellal can be discussed without excuses. But it's gonna be hard to match what Laxus did as you've said, even while affected by bain particles he made no excuses and got it done. Peace.

 

[Jko]

Finally found it.Read this discussion of the first page.
https://googleweblight.com/?lite_ur...870958&sig=APY536xfQqUjTR1wUg40pcWGz930btLdSA

Still no sources and just claims. You need something more than just designs to prove if it's canon or not. I have yet to see anything about the Z arc discussed but the reduce in CS mages. Plus the only thing that powered up the OS was some weird sacrafice thing but they don't hold that power anymore so they're back to their square one feats (which is the OS arc) even if it was confirmed canon or not.

No worries. You are still a good debater. Sorry for yesterday. You got a backbone, not like the other two that said I'm an ass or and something rude, then they played dumb as if they didn't do anything wrong and pointed the finger at me instead. One of them never showed up again, the other stopped his bullshit. We need more guys like you that aren't afraid to step up without denying your actions later. Honest about your words, good or bad, and not playing stupid.

What natsulucy gave was evidence to prove the seis got stronger too. Nothing more. Your argument about Laxus being stronger is still reasonable, just not the part about Cobra being weaker than Max. As soon as Jellal unloads his arsenal then Laxus vs Jellal can be discussed without excuses. But it's gonna be hard to match what Laxus did as you've said, even while affected by bain particles he made no excuses and got it done. Peace.

We all get agressive at some point so there's nothing wrong in admitting when we've gone too far. No point in holding grudge over a difference in opinions either so it's all good .

Yes we'll wait on the Jellal v Neinhart to see what he's capable of.

 

[Arjuna]

Still no sources and just claims. You need something more than just designs to prove if it's canon or not. I have yet to see anything about the Z arc discussed but the reduce in CS mages. Plus the only thing that powered up the OS was some weird sacrafice thing but they don't hold that power anymore so they're back to their square one feats (which is the OS arc) even if it was confirmed canon or not.


We all get agressive at some point so there's nothing wrong in admitting when we've gone too far. No point in holding grudge over a difference in opinions either so it's all good .

Yes we'll wait on the Jellal v Neinhart to see what he's capable of.

But Hiro said in Manga that Zentopia incident happened.

 

[Timon]

Y'all don't seem to get the, the only most dangerous threat in this arc are august, zeref and acno. You want FT to struggle so hard with spriggans when they all improved much after a year due to tartaros? Y'all never taken into consideration that they are not the same as a year ago. They shouldn't have to struggle very much against most of the spriggans. FT has got top tier just like Alvarez has got spriggans. Top tier in FT are Gildarts, laxus, natsu, gray, gajeel, erza(would need help against spriggan), makarov(would need help against spriggan). Also, it depends on the powers each spriggans have, as they may put some FT at a disadvantage. Then for other spriggan they'd need help such as Jellal and co and other guilds. This is setting up for the fight against 100,000 army, August, Zeref and acno. And don't forget, END could go bad.

I agree with you saying that the biggest threats as of now are August, Zeref and Acnologia.

I do think Erza can handle a spriggan on her own. She just got unlucky she got Ajeel who can deplete strength and energy. Erza's power isn't infinite. Imagine Erza vs Jacob. Erza (with her new sixth sense) and probably with her Morning Star Armor or any other tracing armor can defeat Jacob with mid-difficulty. Erza fighting Wahl solo is difficult probably mid-high difficulty but also possible. As for Dimaria, I believe no one can fight her without Ultear's help unless Mashima gives Erza a bs in the form of a time armor.

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http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/vTBD/c480/16.html << Behind Yukino.

Oh my goshhh ( hope she goes back up

 

[Dragneel.Fx]

I don't see why it would be a problem for Fairy Tail to struggle. Sure, it adds suspense but if we look at it from a realisitic perspective, FT is going against the 12 strongest enemies in another continent. I agree that the training they did over the one year timeskip should have helped increase their powers, but unless you're telling me that they have become the best of the best in all of Ishgar, it is expected of them to have a very hard time against these opponents.

I don't see why it would be a problem for Fairy Tail to struggle. Sure, it adds suspense but if we look at it from a realisitic perspective, FT is going against the 12 strongest enemies in another continent. I agree that the training they did over the one year timeskip should have helped increase their powers, but unless you're telling me that they have become the best of the best in all of Ishgar, it is expected of them to have a very hard time against these opponents.

Like I said, top tier vs top tier. Unless you're talking about the fodder in FT then they would have so much struggle. The top tier in FT shouldn't have death risking struggle.

 

[Orgastthemage]

Y'all don't seem to get the, the only most dangerous threat in this arc are august, zeref and acno. You want FT to struggle so hard with spriggans when they all improved much after a year due to tartaros? Y'all never taken into consideration that they are not the same as a year ago. They shouldn't have to struggle very much against most of the spriggans. FT has got top tier just like Alvarez has got spriggans. Top tier in FT are Gildarts, laxus, natsu, gray, gajeel, erza(would need help against spriggan), makarov(would need help against spriggan). Also, it depends on the powers each spriggans have, as they may put some FT at a disadvantage. Then for other spriggan they'd need help such as Jellal and co and other guilds. This is setting up for the fight against 100,000 army, August, Zeref and acno. And don't forget, END could go bad.

So 1 year of training is all they need? All they need to match up to mages on par with Ishgar's strongest mage? That is unfair. If they would train for 5 years then everyone could solo Zeref. Take into consideration that the spriggan 12 are some of the Absolute best mages that ever lived. Not saying FT's best are weak. They are just not on that level that the 12 are on and should not be winning fights in such ways.

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http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/vTBD/c480/16.html << Behind Yukino.

I owe you one. Thanks.

 

[Orgastthemage]

We don't know that for sure, we haven't seen Jellal fight yet.

An antagonist such as Zeref can not be weaker than a less important character,such as Jellal, it would not fit in story-wise if he would be stronger than Zeref.

 

[BluePegasus]

The only mage who proved he is worth Spriggan tier is Laxus, because he did defeat Wahl. Even though the fight was awful and unrealistic, it's a fact. All the other mages in Ishgar aren't Spriggan tier, yet.

I find it quite funny that some people underrate the Spriggan as hell. Aside from Laxus and Jellal I don't think anyone could solo a Spriggan who are at least stronger than Ajeel and smarter than Jacob.

 

[Orgastthemage]

The only mage who proved he is worth Spriggan tier is Laxus, because he did defeat Wahl. Even though the fight was awful and unrealistic, it's a fact. All the other mages in Ishgar aren't Spriggan tier, yet.

I find it quite funny that some people underrate the Spriggan as hell. Aside from Laxus and Jellal I don't think anyone could solo a Spriggan who are at least stronger than Ajeel and smarter than Jacob.

You know what, you and me see eye to eye man. I got your back when arguments will start to erupt.

 

[Dragneel.Fx]

So 1 year of training is all they need? All they need to match up to mages ob par with Ishgar's strongest mage? That is unfair. If they would train for 5 years then everyone could solo Zeref. Take into consideration that the spriggan 12 are some of the Absolute best mages that ever lived. Not saying FT's best are weak. They are just not on that level that the 12 are on and should not be winning fights in such ways.

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I owe you one. Thanks.

Lol you realize that these characters grow stronger after every arc right? Laxus has always been strong and still gets stronger. He is with no doubt on spriggan level. He was jura level pre timeskip. Natsu I bet in his fight against twin dragons and after was Zero level. Or prolly even stronger. Gray, got on zero level due to ice devil slaying. Gajeel also on that level pre timeskip. Then a year passed. They all trained. Natsu and gray I believe trained a whole year. Or precisely natsu trained 10months and went around challenging strong opponents. In FT I'd say Laxus, Natsu, gajeel, gray are and or almost spriggan level and erza being somewhat. Reason Natsu is spriggan level or a bit stronger is cos of LFDM, BDKM and DF. Gajeel, ISDM, steel mode, and probably dragon force. Gray, well he likely powered up more via ice devil mode. Erza, well I don't need to explain why she is somewhat spriggan level. Also, magic amount wise, they may not be on that level. But physical strength and durability and magic is what one needs to be strong. Not just magic. Example, four wizard saints thought they were slightly on par with Serena due to almost same amount of magic. Whereas he trumps them physically and his magic packs a wallop. So for example natsu may not have the same amount of magic power, but his magic packs a huge punch. And he has got immense physical strength.

 

[Solitrine]

Ahahahaha so 26 year old welp is stronger? .
Zeref did not want to fight with her at all and he was so EMO. When he stopped fooling around he oneshot Hades -> Makarov->Lexus->our 4 protagonists.He fooling around with Natsu, when Natsu use his overpower mode and Natsu could only stain Zeref clothes Zeref in power = Aknologiya which in his human form oneshot the strongest dragon slayer in manga - god Sirena
It is not Rave and in Rave Jellal die

Jellal wasn't trying to fight Neinhart at all either, he was trying to save Kagura. Age is irrelevant, Makarov is 88 while Laxus is 23, do you think Makarov is stronger than Laxus because he is older? Acnologia is way above Zeref's level, he needs the Spriggan 12 to go to war against Acnologia and even then it isn't enough, August said that Zeref needs Fairy Heart to stand a chance. Zeref is nowhere near as strong as Acnologia, you've got to be trolling.

 

[Orgastthemage]

Lol you realize that these characters grow stronger after every arc right? Laxus has always been strong and still gets stronger. He is with no doubt on spriggan level. He was jura level pre timeskip. Natsu I bet in his fight against twin dragons and after was Zero level. Or prolly even stronger. Gray, got on zero level due to ice devil slaying. Gajeel also on that level pre timeskip. Then a year passed. They all trained. Natsu and gray I believe trained a whole year. Or precisely natsu trained 10months and went around challenging strong opponents. In FT I'd say Laxus, Natsu, gajeel, gray are and or almost spriggan level and erza being somewhat. Reason Natsu is spriggan level or a bit stronger is cos of LFDM, BDKM and DF. Gajeel, ISDM, steel mode, and probably dragon force. Gray, well he likely powered up more via ice devil mode. Erza, well I don't need to explain why she is somewhat spriggan level. Also, magic amount wise, they may not be on that level. But physical strength and durability and magic is what one needs to be strong. Not just magic. Example, four wizard saints thought they were slightly on par with Serena due to almost same amount of magic. Whereas he trumps them physically and his magic packs a wallop. So for example natsu may not have the same amount of magic power, but his magic packs a huge punch. And he has got immense physical strength.

None of them are spriggan level except for Natsu( mainly due to his protagonist 'plot' mode) and Laxus(who won that fight in a supremely dumb way). Get your facts straight.

 

[Dragneel.Fx]

The only mage who proved he is worth Spriggan tier is Laxus, because he did defeat Wahl. Even though the fight was awful and unrealistic, it's a fact. All the other mages in Ishgar aren't Spriggan tier, yet.

I find it quite funny that some people underrate the Spriggan as hell. Aside from Laxus and Jellal I don't think anyone could solo a Spriggan who are at least stronger than Ajeel and smarter than Jacob.

Says the guy with the walh profile picture. Well natsu is spriggan level. LFDM, BDKM and dragon force. Oh he also one shots a spriggan.

 

[BluePegasus]

Lol you realize that these characters grow stronger after every arc right? Laxus has always been strong and still gets stronger. He is with no doubt on spriggan level. He was jura level pre timeskip. Natsu I bet in his fight against twin dragons and after was Zero level. Or prolly even stronger. Gray, got on zero level due to ice devil slaying. Gajeel also on that level pre timeskip. Then a year passed. They all trained. Natsu and gray I believe trained a whole year. Or precisely natsu trained 10months and went around challenging strong opponents. In FT I'd say Laxus, Natsu, gajeel, gray are and or almost spriggan level and erza being somewhat. Reason Natsu is spriggan level or a bit stronger is cos of LFDM, BDKM and DF. Gajeel, ISDM, steel mode, and probably dragon force. Gray, well he likely powered up more via ice devil mode. Erza, well I don't need to explain why she is somewhat spriggan level.

So you actually think that most of the Fairy Tail character became stronger than Ishgar's strongest mage in one year? That's impossible. By this logic, mages from Sabertooth and Lamia Scale should be stronger than Ishgar's strongest because they trained as well.

No one in Fairy Tail aside from Laxus is Spriggan level. Natsu couldn't solo Jacob. Erza couldn't solo Ajeel. Gray and Gajeel aren't even S-Class yet.

 

[Orgastthemage]

Says the guy with the walh profile picture. Well natsu is spriggan level. LFDM, BDKM and dragon force. Oh he also one shots a spriggan.

Natsu does not even plan much. He can be happy to be the main characater. If he would not be then he would have been destroyed power-wise with his fighting style.