Lucy is definitely stronger than Wendy. Lucy unexpected kick launched Jacob across the guild while Wendy's unexpected kick only made Dimaria fall on her butt. Lucy was stronger pre-ts she'll definitely be above currently especially when she gets her inevitable 1 on 1 with Brandish.
Lucy is definitely stronger than Wendy. Lucy unexpected kick launched Jacob across the guild while Wendy's unexpected kick only made Dimaria fall on her butt. Lucy was stronger pre-ts she'll definitely be above currently especially when she gets her inevitable 1 on 1 with Brandish.
Lucy is definitely stronger than Wendy. Lucy unexpected kick launched Jacob across the guild while Wendy's unexpected kick only made Dimaria fall on her butt. Lucy was stronger pre-ts she'll definitely be above currently especially when she gets her inevitable 1 on 1 with Brandish.
Wendy's only advantage is her speed. Most of her attacks can be evaded by Lucy, with Virgo. If the two were to clash and Lucy had enough time to recite the Urano Metria incantation or summon the Celestial King, then Wendy is good as gone. Then again, Wendy would win in most scenarios.
DF Wendy speed blitzes Lucy and lol stomps her into non-existence, if someone would provide me a good speed feat Lucy has then I would give her a change but right now............ nope.
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There is no way in hell Hades is on the same level as Bluenote....... he's also a tier above people like Kyouka, Silver and Sayla.
Wendy's only advantage is her speed. Most of her attacks can be evaded by Lucy, with Virgo. If the two were to clash and Lucy had enough time to recite the Urano Metria incantation or summon the Celestial King, then Wendy is good as gone. Then again, Wendy would win in most scenarios.
No point in summoning CSK as she's strong enough to get the job done herself. She could easily summon Loke and Taurus then Star dress into Sagittarius and snipe Wendy at a safe distance while Loke and Taurus put a lot of pressure on her in CQC. Lucy's too versatile and has all around better stats then Wendy.
When the both blindsided an S12 Lucy's kick launched Jacob across the guild while Wendy's only put Dimaria on her butt.
You forget Wendy barely been in battles and started getting into them frequently in the GMG and up so her entire cumulative damage is a lot less then other main members.
I can sense the Lucy downplay oozing off of you.
Lucy:
Strength, Durability, Endurance, Stamina, Intelligence, Magic Power/Diversity, Reaction
Wendy:
Speed
Wendy sh*ts on no one stats beside the fodder.
She survived an onslaught 2 9D at the same time and her water barrier was able to outspeed Jackal's explosions. Lucy reaction speed is easily enough for her to be able to perceive Wendy's attack not to mention her durability stamina and endurance is a lot higher than Wendy's. Lucy is tagging Wendy any day of the week.
DF Wendy speed blitzes Lucy and lol stomps her into non-existence, if someone would provide me a good speed feat Lucy has then I would give her a change but right now............ nope.
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There is no way in hell Hades is on the same level as Bluenote....... he's also a tier above people like Kyouka, Silver and Sayla.
Tell me how is Hades far above Bluenote the same guy who took on Gildarts? Silver flash freezes, Kyouka strips him off his senses, and Sayla just controls Hades. Hades gets overplayed a lot with no feats to suggest he's above top tier 9D on their level yes.
Tell me how is Hades far above Bluenote the same guy who took on Gildarts? Silver flash freezes, Kyouka strips him off his senses, and Sayla just controls Hades. Hades gets overplayed a lot with no feats to suggest he's above top tier 9D.
I agree that Hades is seriously overrated. He definitely is a beast, but at least 3 of the Demon Gates are close to him in power, with only Mard Geer being stronger.
She survived an onslaught 2 9D at the same time and her water barrier was able to outspeed Jackal's explosions. Lucy reaction speed is easily enough for her to be able to perceive Wendy's attack not to mention her durability stamina and endurance is a lot higher than Wendy's. Lucy is tagging Wendy any day of the week.
She didn't even initiate that barrier, she was just as surprised as the rest of us, so that isn't a reaction feat for her, nor does she even posses it currently since Aquarius no longer belongs to her. Moreover I fail to see how being able to react to someone means you can tag them. We don't equate reactions with combat/movement speed. DF + Vernier stacking = dead Lucy. Same goes for any Spirit she summons.
No point in summoning CSK as she's strong enough to get the job done herself. She could easily summon Loke and Taurus then Star dress into Sagittarius and snipe Wendy at a safe distance while Loke and Taurus put a lot of pressure on her in CQC. Lucy's too versatile and has all around better stats then Wendy.
Why are you assuming that any of Lucy or her spirits' attacks would actually damage Wendy? DF Wendy physically matching Dimaria is actually enough a durability feat to prove that Lucy can't damage her. That would be like assuming Lucy has the same attack potency as a casual Dimaria, which can't be proved whatsoever.
When the both blindsided an S12 Lucy's kick launched Jacob across the guild while Wendy's only put Dimaria on her butt.
Firstly, Dimaria is stronger than Jacob. Second, launching Jacob doesn't really mean you damaged and doesn't represent attack potency. In the third place, show me the scans.
You forget Wendy barely been in battles and started getting into them frequently in the GMG and up so her entire cumulative damage is a lot less then other main members.
And how does that make tanking Age Scratch not an outstanding durability feat? Wendy still suffered the damage (rather pain) from the battle against Mystogan's father, against Chelia and against Ezel.
I can sense the Lucy downplay oozing off of you.
Lucy:
Strength, Durability, Endurance, Stamina, Intelligence, Magic Power/Diversity, Reaction
Wendy:
Speed
Wendy sh*ts on no one stats beside the fodder.
Explain, please. Just don't go stating stuff without providing proof.
Wendy has better strength feats in matching God mode Dimaria. Better durability/endurance feats in tanking Dimaria's attacks and matching her physically. Stamina is debatable, but not really a crucial factor. Intelligence is basicaly a non-factor in power-scaling. Diversity is irrelevant too and MP is debatable and meanwhile irrelevant since Wendy has more attack potency than Lucy. Reaction speed goes for DF Wendy too. She was reacting to Dimaria. Lucy has no speed feats that can counter this. I also liked how you made up a bunch of stats just for the sake of making Lucy more impressive.
It goes like this:
Lucy:
Intelligence, Diversity
Wendy:
Strength, Durability and Speed
Wendy basically has better stats on the most relevant stats for a versus thread.
She survived an onslaught 2 9D at the same time and her water barrier was able to outspeed Jackal's explosions. Lucy reaction speed is easily enough for her to be able to perceive Wendy's attack not to mention her durability stamina and endurance is a lot higher than Wendy's. Lucy is tagging Wendy any day of the week.
Like the Demon Gates are still relevant when DF Wendy was clashing with Dimaria who's arguably stronger than Mard, who is vastly stronger than the DG.
Magical-created explosions. Not a notable reaction speed feat, especially when it requires casting time.
I just debunked that. Wendy has way more physical strength than Lucy.
Wendy's only advantage is her speed. Most of her attacks can be evaded by Lucy, with Virgo. If the two were to clash and Lucy had enough time to recite the Urano Metria incantation or summon the Celestial King, then Wendy is good as gone. Then again, Wendy would win in most scenarios.
She didn't even iniate that barrier, she was just as surprised as the rest of us, so that isn't a reaction feat for her, nor does she even posses it currently since Aquarius no longer belongs to her. Moreover I fail to see how being able to react to someone means you can tag them. We don't equate reactions with combat/movement speed. DF + Vernier stacking = dead Lucy. Same goes for any Spirit she summons.
Tell me who initiated a barrier when there was no one else there? If you can react then you can tagg as you're able to perceive their movement which is how most people with inferior speed are able to keep up. None of what you said equals dead Lucy speed as only one factor in a fight but it's not even close to the deciding when you're outmatched in everything else. Loke himself was able to stalemate base Torafuza and you think Wendy can take him with Lucy and another Spirit backing him up?
You forget Wendy barely been in battles and started getting into them frequently in the GMG and up so her entire cumulative damage is a lot less then other main members.
Ain't no Lucy downplaying, just you failing to show me some Lucy feats.
How does Lucy have durability over Wendy when Wendy was tanking nukes from Dorma Anim? This is Pre-TS too.
How does Lucy have endurance over Wendy when Wendy endured an attack like Age Scratch, which makes you relive all your previous injuries?
How does Lucy have stamina over Wendy when she endured what I said above and managed to keep fighting till the end in everyone of her battles?
How on Earth does Lucy have more magic power then Wendy, especially in DF?
How does Lucy have better reactions? Lucy is garbage in the speed department. All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her.
She survived an onslaught 2 9D at the same time and her water barrier was able to outspeed Jackal's explosions. Lucy reaction speed is easily enough for her to be able to perceive Wendy's attack not to mention her durability stamina and endurance is a lot higher than Wendy's. Lucy is tagging Wendy any day of the week.
I've pretty much disproved why all of this is BS. I don't know why people think Lucy is strong, when her feats are so sub-par. Surviving an onslaught doesn't mean anything when Jackal and Torafusa weren't trying in the least.
Why are you assuming that any of Lucy or her spirits' attacks would actually damage Wendy? DF Wendy physically matching Dimaria is actually enough a durability feat to prove that Lucy can't damage her. That would be like assuming Lucy has the same attack potency as a casual Dimaria, which can't be proved whatsoever.
Firstly, Dimaria is stronger than Jacob. Second, launching Jacob doesn't really mean you damaged and doesn't represent attack potency. In the third place, show me the scans.
And how does that make tanking Age Scratch not an outstanding durability feat? Wendy still suffered the damage (rather pain) from the battle against Mystogan's father, against Chelia and against Ezel.
Explain, please. Just don't go stating stuff without providing proof.
Wendy has better strength feats in matching God mode Dimaria. Better durability/endurance feats in tanking Dimaria's attacks and matching her physically. Stamina is debatable, but not really a crucial factor. Intelligence is basicaly a non-factor in power-scaling. Diversity is irrelevant too and MP is debatable and meanwhile irrelevant since Wendy has more attack potency than Lucy. Reaction speed goes for DF Wendy too. She was reacting to Dimaria. Lucy has no speed feats that can counter this. I also liked how you made up a bunch of stats just for the sake of making Lucy more impressive.
It goes like this:
Lucy:
Intelligence, Diversity
Wendy:
Strength, Durability and Speed
Wendy basically has better stats on the most relevant stats for a versus thread.
Like the Demon Gates are still relevant when DF Wendy was clashing with Dimaria who's arguably stronger than Mard, who is vastly stronger than the DG.
Magical-created explosions. Not a notable reaction speed feat, especially when it requires casting time.
I just debunked that. Wendy has way more physical strength than Lucy.
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A glass cannon tanking several attacks from a Spriggan 12.
Aplaudo bravemente essa tentativa de "trolling", mas foi muito fraca. Considera-te derrotado, panasca. (@Laxus told me to send this mesage in this language lol)
Tell me how is Hades far above Bluenote the same guy who took on Gildarts? Silver flash freezes, Kyouka strips him off his senses, and Sayla just controls Hades. Hades gets overplayed a lot with no feats to suggest he's above top tier 9D on their level yes.
It was outright stated that he was more powerful. LOL
Silver's flash freeze is unfortunately a no-limit fallacy, which means it can only be used against the strongest character it was shown against. That would be base Natsu, who was clearly weaker than Hades at the time. Same with Sayla. The strongest character it was used against was a weakned Erza, who, again, was weaker than Hades at the time.
Anyways, powerscaling doesn't exactly work like versus battles. That's like saying that Marin can low-diff Erza, therefore they must be in the same ballpark, which is a false assumption. Hades has surperior feats, with Amaterasu 100. The guy low-diffed Titan Makarov, handled Team Natsu and was manhandling Laxus.
Oh you mean the kick that didn't do shit to Jacob?
That's not how it works. You're essentially saying the more battles you have, the stronger you are. I guess Zeref is fodder going by your logic.
Ain't no Lucy downplaying, just you failing to show me some Lucy feats.
How does Lucy have durability over Wendy when Wendy was tanking nukes from Dorma Anim? This is Pre-TS too.
How does Lucy have endurance over Wendy when Wendy endured an attack like Age Scratch, which makes you relive all your previous injuries?
How does Lucy have stamina over Wendy when she endured what I said above and managed to keep fighting till the end in everyone of her battles?
How on Earth does Lucy have more magic power then Wendy, especially in DF?
How does Lucy have better reactions? Lucy is garbage in the speed department. All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her.
I've pretty much disproved why all of this is BS. I don't know why people think Lucy is strong, when her feats are so sub-par. Surviving an onslaught doesn't mean anything when Jackal and Torafusa weren't trying in the least.
"All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her." She is summoner so what problem? Wendy use wind without wind she is ussles too by your logic.
Tell me who initiated a barrier when there was no one else there? If you can react then you can tagg as you're able to perceive their movement which is how most people with inferior speed are able to keep up. None of what you said equals dead Lucy speed as only one factor in a fight but it's not even close to the deciding when you're outmatched in everything else. Loke himself was able to stalemate base Torafuza and you think Wendy can take him with Lucy and another Spirit backing him up?
Cancer Stardress is beyond useless if it has never been shown.
So she created a small earthquake. Now tell me something, do you know anything about energy output? The energy output to create that small earthquake would be something BoS Erza would be able to execute with ease. Meanwhile, Wendy has stalemated a character as strong or stronger than Mard. So Lucy > Mard, I guess
"All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her." She is summoner so what problem? Wendy use wind without wind she is ussles too by your logic.
"All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her." She is summoner so what problem? Wendy use wind without wind she is ussles too by your logic.
She is the summoner, exactly. Therefore she doesn't even need speed, nor has she ever showcased any amazing speed. Wendy's not useless without "wind". She actually has good durability, speed, endurance and offense.
Wendy's performance against Dimaria was mediocre at best. Sure, she managed to kick her opponent twice, but where did it got her? It barely hurt Dimaria...
She tried to punch Dimaria at full power and was pushed right back. She took a laser beam to the leg and stayed down; she couldn't evade the second beam, which was dispersed easily by Sheria. Her only noteworthy accomplishment in this fight was putting up a barrier that reduced the damage of Dimaria's attack.
After the fight, Wendy healed Carla and instead of healing her injuries right after, she's back on the floor, eating the dust again. I, too, hate how she is being treated as a character, but she is way too fragile.
"All she does is stand around and let her spirits do everything for her." She is summoner so what problem? Wendy use wind without wind she is ussles too by your logic.
Wendy's performance against Dimaria was mediocre at best. Sure, she managed to kick her opponent twice, but where did it got her? It barely hurt Dimaria...
She tried to punch Dimaria at full power and was pushed right back. She took a laser beam to the leg and stayed down; she couldn't evade the second beam, which was dispersed easily by Sheria. Her only noteworthy accomplishment in this fight was putting up a barrier that reduced the damage of Dimaria's attack.
After the fight, Wendy healed Carla and instead of healing her injuries right after, she's back on the floor, eating the dust again. I, too, hate how she is being treated as a character, but she is way too fragile.
So you completely ignore Wendy tanking this blast? And damaging Dimaria here? And matching an angry Dimaria here? Damaging a Mard-level character is noteworthy by itself, even if it's just a bit.
How's she too fragile? Then I guess DF Natsu and Gray are too fragile because they fainted after fighting Gray You do nderstand that DF Wendy is around Tartaros DF Natsu's level as it is, right?
Meanwhile, I fail to see how downplaying Wendy will prove that Lucy is stronger than her.