Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Speed: Wendy >>>>> Lucy
Offence: Wendy >>> Lucy
Defence: Wendy >>> Lucy
Intelligence: Lucy >> Wendy
MP: Lucy >>> Wendy
Durability: Wendy >>> Lucy
Stamina: Wendy > Lucy

Wendy lol stomps

Normally, such comparisons would work simply like that, except not for Lucy. She is quite unique and totally different. If you're assuming Lucy and her Kick + Whip vs. Wendy than I can see your logic, but that is not how it works.

Lucy vs. Wendy

Lucy can summon 2-3 celestial spirits like Leo and Aquarius or Virgo. While Leo blitzes Base Wendy, Lucy can use her Star Dress to increase her MP. At the same time, she is untouchable. With her strongest celestial spirit, Leo, attacking Wendy and 2 of the celestial spirits that I previously named (Aquarius/Virgo) defending her, it is almost impossible for Wendy to even close the distance between them. Even if Leo somehow loses, Aquarius can start attacking while Virgo carries Lucy and runs away with her incredible speed. By, that time Wendy will be defeated. But, assuming that Wendy is still standing (which probably won't happen), she'll be very exhausted. So either Lucy easily finishes her off with Star Dress or Virgo destroys her. Although, another celestial spirit is a little overkill...

Lucy vs. DF Wendy

This is very different. Same situation as last time except now Wendy has enhanced strength, durability, speed, etc. Now, not only would Lucy have to let all of her celestial spirits attack Wendy, but they will eventually be defeated. If Lucy uses strategy in the combination of her celestial spirits, she would be able to exhaust Wendy by the time it is her turn to fight alone. Honestly, an injured DF Wendy can't kill a relatively healthy Lucy, so this fight will most likely come down to a tie. Both Lucy and Wendy always had similar levels of magic power anyways.

 

[Stormsfury]

Normally, such comparisons would work simply like that, except not for Lucy. She is quite unique and totally different. If you're assuming Lucy and her Kick + Whip vs. Wendy than I can see your logic, but that is not how it works.

Lucy vs. Wendy

Lucy can summon 2-3 celestial spirits like Leo and Aquarius or Virgo. While Leo blitzes Base Wendy, Lucy can use her Star Dress to increase her MP. At the same time, she is untouchable. With her strongest celestial spirit, Leo, attacking Wendy and 2 of the celestial spirits that I previously named (Aquarius/Virgo) defending her, it is almost impossible for Wendy to even close the distance between them. Even if Leo somehow loses, Aquarius can start attacking while Virgo carries Lucy and runs away with her incredible speed. By, that time Wendy will be defeated. But, assuming that Wendy is still standing (which probably won't happen), she'll be very exhausted. So either Lucy easily finishes her off with Star Dress or Virgo destroys her. Although, another celestial spirit is a little overkill...

Lucy vs. DF Wendy

This is very different. Same situation as last time except now Wendy has enhanced strength, durability, speed, etc. Now, not only would Lucy have to let all of her celestial spirits attack Wendy, but they will eventually be defeated. If Lucy uses strategy in the combination of her celestial spirits, she would be able to exhaust Wendy by the time it is her turn to fight alone. Honestly, an injured DF Wendy can't kill a relatively healthy Lucy, so this fight will most likely come down to a tie. Both Lucy and Wendy always had similar levels of magic power anyways.

Base Wendy doesn't matter anymore because Wendy can activate DF whenever the hell she wants at instant speed, so I'm disregarding the first section of this post, DF Wendy speed blitzes the crap out of Lucy and all her spirits, she can also take a beating on scale that I haven't seen from Lucy and keep fighting, the fight between her and Dimaria was a great testament to her durability and the fact that she was able to go dragon force again and get ready to take on Ezel just minutes after she took a hammering is a testament to her endurance, when Lucy shows something on that level then maybe, maybe she stands a chance. I think the fact that both fights she's had so far this arc have relied heavily on others and gag moments for her to win speaks volumes.

 

[BluePegasus]

Lol Lucy is nothing compared to DF Wendy.

Wendy > Lucy (medium-high diff)
DF Wendy >>>> Lucy (oneshot)

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Base Wendy doesn't matter anymore because Wendy can activate DF whenever the hell she wants at instant speed, so I'm disregarding the first section of this post, DF Wendy speed blitzes the crap out of Lucy and all her spirits, she can also take a beating on scale that I haven't seen from Lucy and keep fighting, the fight between her and Dimaria was a great testament to her durability and the fact that she was able to go dragon force again and get ready to take on Ezel just minutes after she took a hammering is a testament to her endurance, when Lucy shows something on that level then maybe, maybe she stands a chance. I think the fact that both fights she's had so far this arc have relied heavily on others and gag moments for her to win speaks volumes.

Let's don't get confused here. DF Wendy did absolutely nothing against Dimaria. Using a barrier to block her attack is nothing. If we look at the context, not only was Dimaria's God Soul weakened to the point it was disappearing, but that is Wendy's specialty as a support mage.

Spoiler

Not saying she is weak but using Dimaria as the test would be quite unfair because she is way too strong for Wendy. The only one who could do damage to her was Chelia because of Third Origin she got. The whole fight was nonsense but nonetheless, that is what happened. By the way, without Chelia's interference, Wendy would have gotten murdered. She was pierced through the leg with a beam making her immobile and vulnerable to the following attack.

Similarly, we can't use Lucy vs. Jacob either. Lucy would have lost at the same time if Natsu wasn't there, but could DF Wendy defeat him? Not so sure. Considering that Makarov punch did no damage to Jacob, DF Wendy who is arguably on the same level would also most likely do nothing. Neither of them are a match for a Spriggan. I mean Jacob is the weakest Spriggan alive... Yet, Lucy and Wendy are no match for any of them. I think if we were to really assess their ranking, we would have to either wait for more feats or go by what has been portrayed. I would go as far as to say it would take Lucy and DF Wendy together to possibly hurt Jacob.

 

[Stormsfury]

Let's don't get confused here. DF Wendy did absolutely nothing against Dimaria. Using a barrier to block her attack is nothing. If we look at the context, not only was Dimaria's God Soul weakened to the point it was disappearing, but that is Wendy's specialty as a support mage.

Spoiler

Not saying she is weak but using Dimaria as the test would be quite unfair because she is way too strong for Wendy. The only one who could do damage to her was Chelia because of Third Origin she got. The whole fight was nonsense but nonetheless, that is what happened. By the way, without Chelia's interference, Wendy would have gotten murdered. She was pierced through the leg with a beam making her immobile and vulnerable to the following attack.

Similarly, we can't use Lucy vs. Jacob either. Lucy would have lost at the same time if Natsu wasn't there, but could DF Wendy defeat him? Not so sure. Considering that Makarov punch did no damage to Jacob, DF Wendy who is arguably on the same level would also most likely do nothing. Neither of them are a match for a Spriggan. I mean Jacob is the weakest Spriggan alive... Yet, Lucy and Wendy are no match for any of them. I think if we were to really assess their ranking, we would have to either wait for more feats or go by what has been portrayed. I would go as far as to say it would take Lucy and DF Wendy together to possibly hurt Jacob.

She speed blitzed Dimaria in the beginning and she was quick enough to avoid a sword strike that was at he neck when time restarted....... those are testaments to her speed, she also endured a lot of punishment and could keep going and used a barrier to block an attack from a Spriggan 12 member........ how the hell is that absolutely nothing? Go reread the chapter or something since you've clearly forgotten, Lucy needed gag moments and all the plot convenience in the world to save her.

 

[Beefcakes]

No, it should be fairly clear that Weakness Magic has no impact in this context. And yes, his Magic Barrier Particles Nullification Magic is separate.

Come on, dude, you have to do better than that - this is plain denial.

I've shown you irrefutable manga evidence and logic that Weakness Magic is the reason why MBPs were cancelled in the first place. The Magic Barriers Nullification Magic you keep thumping on about is a sub-skill that originated from Weakness Magic, since - for the umpteenth time - it's the weakness of the specific rune barrier Laxus drew.

Do you know how ridiculous that argument sounds? Why don't you go ahead and say that Wahl has steam, fire, and speed magic, since he demonstrated those before? These were all sub-skills that came from his Weakness Magic.

It was shown that Wahl only has Magic Barrier Particles Nullification Magic.

Now, you're damage controlling. I won't even go into Byro and Ultear since they're just fluffing and diluting your argument.

Let me explain why none of this adds up. Ever since Laxus vs. Wahl, the Fairy Tail Wikia has made it known that the Jutsu Shiki or Freed's Rune Magic consists of magical barrier particles (MBP). They were forced to do so in order to try to make it seem logical. If we're going by the original MBP that were used in the Tartaros Arc, they are defined as Anti-Ethernano Particles. To make it easier to understand, it is Anti-Magic which eventually dispels magic by targeting and attacking Ethernano Particles. In a way, it is similar to Face where it exterminates magic but just in a different way. So tell me, how does Freed use magic? His magic is essentially made up of particles that oppose magic itself. In other words, he is constantly weakening his own magic as it is made up of particles that attack it. But that is not the case, right?

That's adorable - you're actually quoting Fairy Tail wikia for your defense - something that can be edited by yourself or by other people who didn't really understand the choreography of that fight. Please show me concrete panels and actual logical arguments derived from said panels, or it didn't happen. And, no need to re-orient me on what MBPs or ethernano is, mate; I can read just fine.

The real discrepancy lies in the name. MBP or particles that act as a barrier to magic (weakens it) is far different from particles that actually make up a barrier (shield). That is literally all there is to it. Same name. Different context. Illogical feat-wise.

Nothing like this happens when one is near or inside Freed's Jutsu Shiki though...

See, there's the problem - why are you lumping them together? Why do you insist MBPs and rune barriers are made of the same stuff? Just because they both have the word 'barrier' in them?

I'll tell you why nothing happens to people in proximity of Freed's runes - it's cause they (MBPs and runes) are freakin ' different and distinct from each other. Do you think a big detail like that would fly over Mashima's head?

If Mashima intended rune magic to be made up of stuff that blocks magic and poisons wizards (which is your definition of MBPs), then there's no need to set-up tedious conditions for these to be dispersed. Why not have Freed just leave them in there to die or something?

You keep insisting that it's illogical feat-wise. But that argument solely hinges on the fact that MBPs and rune magic are made of the same stuff. Which they're not.

Again, for emphasis, Wahl (through his Weakness Magic, pinpointing the condition to disperse Laxus's specific rune) removes the MBPs, THEN the runes disappear, since the condition was met. Wahl did not cancel the rune magic - it fizzled out on its own.

What I'm offering here is an alternative interpretation of that fight that makes perfect sense, given Wahl's weakness magic feats and the sequence / choreography of the events. Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but please do prove it using actual manga panels.

 

[BluePegasus]

Let's don't get confused here. DF Wendy did absolutely nothing against Dimaria. Using a barrier to block her attack is nothing. If we look at the context, not only was Dimaria's God Soul weakened to the point it was disappearing, but that is Wendy's specialty as a support mage.

But do you think Lucy would've done more against Di Maria than DF Wendy could?

 

[Brandish μ]

But do you think Lucy would've done more against Di Maria than DF Wendy could?

I think Horologium could save Lucy from being trapped in Age Seal. But it only works once, so all DiMaria would need to do is re-activate Age Seal.

But if it's a fight without Age Seal, then all Lucy would need to do is land an attack that makes Chronos move or injured very slightly. Leo landed a pretty good punch on Jacob, I reckon that could make Chronos budge, even if it's just a little.

 

[Summer]

Lol so Wendy is stronger than Lucy now? This is nonsense... by feats Lucy is clearly stronger lmao .

And against dimaria Lucy had a higher chance of winning than Wendy ( without age seal )
Wendy did nothing against dimaria .

 

[Synn]

I also don't understand why people assume that Lucy is significantly weaker than DF Wendy.

 

[Cosmicstar]

If we are talking about Lucy vs Wendy in comparison of magic then I give Lucy the edge.

Physical power: Lucy>Wendy

Lucy has way better physical feats then DF Wendy. If it came down to a physical hand to Hand combat battle Lucy would pretty much win all the time.

Magical Reserves: Lucy>Wendy

It took Wendy to absorb a huge amount of etherno to enter Dragon force while Lucy summoned the CSK and 3 Spirits when she was running low on magic power. CSK>>>>>>>>DF Wendy. Lucy's magical power seems to be far greater then Wendy's.

Attack power: Lucy>Wendy

Urano Metria one shot Jackal will it took 2 shots of DF Skydrill to takeout Ezel. Things like Starshot, CSK summoning, and Regulas impact simply adds to Lucy's attack power. The only powerful attack Wendy posses is Skydrill.

Defensive power: Lucy>Wendy

Wendy did create a barrier that helped block an attack from Dimira but Hologium has blocked an attack from Hades, Jacob, Anima, and Lava. I personally give the edge to Lucy is you add in Aries Wool and Aquarius water Mode shield.

Durability: Lucy>Wendy

Lucy has way better durability feats then Wendy. She was able to tank jackal's explosions, Franmath Hades attack, Hades shots, Kain bashing her head in. Wendy also have some decent durability feats but the only one that compares to Lucy durability feat is when she fought Fraust with Natsu and gajeel.

Speed: Wendy>Lucy

DF Wendy is faster then Lucy but then again if we include the fact that Gemini posses a form of meteor(all the Spirits do) and LOucy with stardress gain that ability then I will say they speed if almost equal but right now as far as we can tell Wendy is clearly superior in this area.


Lucy pretty much wins 4 or 5 of the areas that matter when discussing a characters strength.


Right now though it is way to earlier to judge as we haven't seen that much from either.


I do want to comment on the person who said Lucy wouldn't fare any better against Dimira then Wendy did. I strongly disagree as someone like Horologium would be able to save someone like Lucy from Age seal and Lucy summoning the CSK would pretty much stomp Dimira. Rather people think Lucy would or wouldn't is irrelevant as we know she can. It isn't about what a character will or want do as that is up to the author alone to decide but rather want a character can do.

 

[BluePegasus]

I can't believe how DF Wendy is underestimated like this. Comparing her to Lucy isn't even needed since DF Wendy is a lot stronger than her. We're talking about Dragon Force, the strongest power-up from a Dragon Slayer.

Most of Lucy's Celestial Spirits are pretty weak, they're always oneshotted. The only powerful Celestial Spirit she has is Leo. It's pretty funny that people say Lucy's defense is better than Wendy's, while Lucy can only use Hologium once in a battle. Wendy already take this round since she used a barrier which blocked attacks from a God.

Defense: DF Wendy > Lucy

DF Wendy's physical power is a lot stronger than Lucy's kicks.

Physical power: DF Wendy > Lucy

Don't need to say a lot about magic power. DF Wendy's spells are a lot stronger than any Celestial Spirit spell.

Magic power: DF Wendy > Lucy

As for attack, DF Wendy landed a lot more attacks at Ezel than Lucy did to anyone.

Attack: DF Wendy > Lucy

Don't need to say anything about speed.

Speed: DF Wendy >>>>>> Lucy

I'd say their stamina is pretty much equal. DF Wendy should be able to take more damage than Lucy, but she's still too young.

Stamina: DF Wendy = Lucy

Lucy has better intelligence than Wendy.

Intelligence: Lucy > DF Wendy

I'm sorry but Lucy is no match for Dragon Force.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

She speed blitzed Dimaria in the beginning and she was quick enough to avoid a sword strike that was at he neck when time restarted....... those are testaments to her speed, she also endured a lot of punishment and could keep going and used a barrier to block an attack from a Spriggan 12 member........ how the hell is that absolutely nothing? Go reread the chapter or something since you've clearly forgotten, Lucy needed gag moments and all the plot convenience in the world to save her.

Speed blitzing means nothing if no damage is dealt. The sword strike was supposed to kill her. The only reason it didn't was because of Ultear's interference. If Dimaria was not playing around with Wendy like that, Wendy would have been one-shotted. I've read the chapter more than most people, so I know what happened. You're missing the point though. I never stated that Lucy was stronger than Wendy or would fare better against Dimaria. They are pretty much the same whether you like it or not.

Come on, dude, you have to do better than that - this is plain denial.

I've shown you irrefutable manga evidence and logic that Weakness Magic is the reason why MBPs were cancelled in the first place. The Magic Barriers Nullification Magic you keep thumping on about is a sub-skill that originated from Weakness Magic, since - for the umpteenth time - it's the weakness of the specific rune barrier Laxus drew.

Do you know how ridiculous that argument sounds? Why don't you go ahead and say that Wahl has steam, fire, and speed magic, since he demonstrated those before? These were all sub-skills that came from his Weakness Magic.



Now, you're damage controlling. I won't even go into Byro and Ultear since they're just fluffing and diluting your argument.



That's adorable - you're actually quoting Fairy Tail wikia for your defense - something that can be edited by yourself or by other people who didn't really understand the choreography of that fight. Please show me concrete panels and actual logical arguments derived from said panels, or it didn't happen. And, no need to re-orient me on what MBPs or ethernano is, mate; I can read just fine.



See, there's the problem - why are you lumping them together? Why do you insist MBPs and rune barriers are made of the same stuff? Just because they both have the word 'barrier' in them?

I'll tell you why nothing happens to people in proximity of Freed's runes - it's cause they (MBPs and runes) are freakin ' different and distinct from each other. Do you think a big detail like that would fly over Mashima's head?

If Mashima intended rune magic to be made up of stuff that blocks magic and poisons wizards (which is your definition of MBPs), then there's no need to set-up tedious conditions for these to be dispersed. Why not have Freed just leave them in there to die or something?

You keep insisting that it's illogical feat-wise. But that argument solely hinges on the fact that MBPs and rune magic are made of the same stuff. Which they're not.

Again, for emphasis, Wahl (through his Weakness Magic, pinpointing the condition to disperse Laxus's specific rune) removes the MBPs, THEN the runes disappear, since the condition was met. Wahl did not cancel the rune magic - it fizzled out on its own.

What I'm offering here is an alternative interpretation of that fight that makes perfect sense, given Wahl's weakness magic feats and the sequence / choreography of the events. Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but please do prove it using actual manga panels.

If you read my post properly, you could tell I was going against what the Fairy Tail Wikia said. So don't try to twist my words here. Before you start criticizing and making up excuses about Wahl dispelling particles only because of Weakness Magic, look at the context of the situation again. Literally, the only form of Weakness Magic used was Wahl's immunity to lightning but that was his innate ability. You still haven't given me a reasonable explanation for how the particles were dispelled like you claim. If you actually read my post, you would know that I countered the both arguments, whether MBP and Rune Magic are the same or different. Thank you for your interpretation but like you said, you could be wrong, so make sure you check on your reasoning to see if it actually makes sense or not.

But do you think Lucy would've done more against Di Maria than DF Wendy could?

In all honesty, I would think Lucy would do the exact same damage to Dimaria like DF Wendy did and would probably get taken out the same way. The only thing I would agree with people who say Lucy is stronger than Wendy is if we're talking about Base Wendy. Otherwise, DF Wendy and Lucy are around the same level. If we were to factor CSK into the picture, then Lucy might do better against Dimaria but I don't count that. Also, I admit Urano Metria would probably do more damage but because the casting time is longer than usual, I can't see Dimaria letting that happen.

I do want to comment on the person who said Lucy wouldn't fare any better against Dimira then Wendy did. I strongly disagree as someone like Horologium would be able to save someone like Lucy from Age seal and Lucy summoning the CSK would pretty much stomp Dimira. Rather people think Lucy would or wouldn't is irrelevant as we know she can. It isn't about what a character will or want do as that is up to the author alone to decide but rather want a character can do.

I respect your opinion but please look at Brandish's post for why Horologium would be useless. First, I have no doubts whatsoever that he would definitely be one-shottable by Dimaria so if you want to argue who could last longer or prolong the fight more, then you're right, it would be Lucy. Other than that, nothing would save Lucy from Age Seal especially since Dimaria could reactivate it again. The only person who would be able to counter that would be Ultear, that's it. Again, I don't count CSK for certain reasons. You can tell me that it is up to the author to decide how Lucy would fare against Dimaria which I agree, but as far as I'm concerned, I have taken all accounts into perspective and I have just enough evidence as you to say that Lucy would do no better than DF Wendy. If you think Lucy can do better, good for you.

 

[Stormsfury]

Speed blitzing means nothing if no damage is dealt. The sword strike was supposed to kill her. The only reason it didn't was because of Ultear's interference. If Dimaria was not playing around with Wendy like that, Wendy would have been one-shotted. I've read the chapter more than most people, so I know what happened. You're missing the point though. I never stated that Lucy was stronger than Wendy or would fare better against Dimaria. They are pretty much the same whether you like it or not.

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If you read my post properly, you could tell I was going against what the Fairy Tail Wikia said. So don't try to twist my words here. Before you start criticizing and making up excuses about Wahl dispelling particles only because of Weakness Magic, look at the context of the situation again. Literally, the only form of Weakness Magic used was Wahl's immunity to lightning but that was his innate ability. You still haven't given me a reasonable explanation for how the particles were dispelled like you claim. If you actually read my post, you would know that I countered the both arguments, whether MBP and Rune Magic are the same or different. Thank you for your interpretation but like you said, you could be wrong, so make sure you check on your reasoning to see if it actually makes sense or not.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 21, 2016 ---

In all honesty, I would think Lucy would do the exact same damage to Dimaria like DF Wendy did and would probably get taken out the same way. The only thing I would agree with people who say Lucy is stronger than Wendy is if we're talking about Base Wendy. Otherwise, DF Wendy and Lucy are around the same level. If we were to factor CSK into the picture, then Lucy might do better against Dimaria but I don't count that. Also, I admit Urano Metria would probably do more damage but because the casting time is longer than usual, I can't see Dimaria letting that happen.

No.... you said Wendy did nothing against Dimaria when she clearly did, she showed displays of defensive magic, speed, stamina and endurance far beyond what Lucy has shown, I know that the sword would have killed her if it weren't for Ultears interference, I'm not stupid, so you don't need to remind me, I'm just stating that the fact that she jumped over a sword that was swinging at her kneck in a split second is an insane display of speed, also remember that this was in her base form.
She did affect Dimaria as well, when she took her by surprise we clearly see Dimaria nursing a bruise from the kick, I didn't see Jacob bruised at all from Lucy's kick. She also blocked an attack from god sould Dimaria with a barrier when she was weakened, that shows that she can block anything that Lucy throws at her.

 

[DemonKing888]

Why is everyone acting like Wendy's god tier all of a sudden, she isn't Natsu and sadly Wendy is still by far the weakest Dragon Slayer. I don't think Wendy could defeat Eric, Sting or Rouge in a one on one fight.

As for Lucy she has shown time and time again that she's a very versatile fighter. If it wasn't for her quick thinking most of the guild would of been dead in the Jacob fight. Mavis who's suppose to be the Fairy Tactician couldn't even come up with a plan to counter Jacob's magic but Lucy's quick thinking saved the day and she stole the show in that fight.

Lucy's Stardress also has fixed many of her shortcomings and has added to her arsenal of techniques.

Taurus Form: increases her strength which should in turn also increase her durability. Lucy could of easily used Earth Wave in the Jacob fight but she would of destroyed the guild, so Jacob's fight shouldn't be a benchmark for Lucy's power for the simple fact that both her and Natsu were both holding back inside of a building that they both hold very dear to them.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/431/4
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/431/5

Leo Form: Also increases her strength but not at the same level as Taurus form. While not as strong it makes up for it by giving Lucy access to Regulus's light magic. I'm pretty sure Lucy could pull off an Regulus Impact and if She can't her boy Loke is fighting along side her in this form.

Virgo Form: Lucy hasn't shown off all she can do in this form but she has access to Virgo's Earth Dive magic allowing her to escape attacks and set up Earth traps. Not everything is flashy flashy boom in a battle, strategy is key too and Lucy's underground speed should be on par with Virgo. Plus we have let to see anything new from Vigro's Spica magic.
Spica Hole
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/184/6
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/184/7
Spica Lock (anime only, over look if you like)
http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Spica_Lock

Sagittarius Form: One of my favorites which increases accuracy, if anyone has forgotten Sagittarius could counter gun bullets with his speed and accuracy with his normal arrows. Lucy's Star Shot is able to fire multiple homing light arrows at moving targets like she did Ajeel's flying sand. These arrows explode on impact.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/446/21

Gemini Form: This one could counter Wendy for those who want to talk Vs fights. As you all already know Gemini is able to copy all skills and abilities of an Mage of similar magic power to Lucy. Let's say for argumentative purposes Base Wendy= Base Lucy in magic power. Gemini could copy Wendy easily. Now let's say Wendy step it up a notch and went DF. Gemini Stardress Form allows Lucy and Gemini to increase their magical power allowing them to copy greater foes but not foes who are Spriggan 12 level. This should allow Gemini to be able to copy DF Wendy and lets not forget Lucy's fights are never 1 on 1 but 2 on 1, or 3 on 1. Wendy can't fight herself and another opponent at the same time.

Aries Form: abilities are unknown, but Aries is a defensive fighter who can weaken oppoents, Lucy's Stardress should be based on this.

Scorpio Form: abilities unknown but Scorpio uses Sand Toradoes

Capricorn Form: abilities unknown...... Capricorn hasn't really shown off any magical abilities, could be Marital Art based

Cancer Form: abilites unknown but Cancer has amazing dexterous and speed, Hiro could incorporate this more in battles.

Aquarius Form: (lost for now) Lucy's water barrier was shown to block Jackal's explosions with easy allowing her to use Urano Metria.

Lucy has let to show off 4 of her other Stardresses and hasn't shown the full power of her other 5. Plus the possibilities of her getting back Aquarius are high and the possibility of getting the final two keys are there as well.

Hiro Mashima knows we all want to see a Spirit Queen Stardress
So Lucy will be a power house in future fights, just look at who her Mother and Ancestor are, two powerful women who could open the Eclipse Gate something that took alot of magical power from multiple Mages (100s) in the GMG.

Sadly Lucy's full potential eclipses Wendy's (pun intended)
Everyone is looking at Wendy as if she's a little Natsu but they fail to realize Wendy will never be as strong as Natsu for one simple fact.... Natsu is a Demon who learnt DS magic, Wendy is a little girl who learnt DS magic. Natsu's potential is far to high for Wendy to catch up.

Wendy right now could possibly reach Sting and Rouge's level or she may in fact could already be close to their level of power because of Dragon Force. Wendy's Final benchmark of power has already been shown to us through Chelia.

Chelia and Wendy were always equals so Wendy's full potential should be equal to Chelia's 3rd origin but this is like full grown Wendy late 20s early 30s.
While Chelia was powerful she still needed Wendy's barrier to defeat Dimaria. I couldn't see someone like 3rd origin Chelia taking out the Spirit King so I doubt Wendy ever could.

Wendy has had her Spriggan fight and has a broken leg because of it, while Lucy on the other hand is still in fighting condition so we'll see what Lucy can do in the up coming chapters, and besides Hiro Mashima always gives Lucy a powerup mid fight

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

No.... you said Wendy did nothing against Dimaria when she clearly did, she showed displays of defensive magic, speed, stamina and endurance far beyond what Lucy has shown, I know that the sword would have killed her if it weren't for Ultears interference, I'm not stupid, so you don't need to remind me, I'm just stating that the fact that she jumped over a sword that was swinging at her kneck in a split second is an insane display of speed, also remember that this was in her base form.
She did affect Dimaria as well, when she took her by surprise we clearly see Dimaria nursing a bruise from the kick, I didn't see Jacob bruised at all from Lucy's kick. She also blocked an attack from god sould Dimaria with a barrier when she was weakened, that shows that she can block anything that Lucy throws at her.

Wendy literally had no effect on Dimaria. Don't go back on your words especially after telling someone to re-read a chapter. Keep in mind that the one kick you keep referencing was with Chelia's help, not to mention, Ultear as well. There is no indication that Wendy alone would have damaged Dimaria at all. Especially since it took part of Chelia's power to just scratch her, so without her help, there wouldn't be any feats that would prove your point. Plus, she is stronger than Wendy and she is a God Slayer.

Wendy blocking Dimaria's attack doesn't say anything about whether she could defeat Lucy or not... Sure, she can block Lucy's attack. Never denied that. How about the other way around? Lucy can block DF Wendy's attacks with her celestial spirits too. The point here is not who can block. It is who will win in a fight. From what I saw, that one magical barrier that Wendy used nearly drained her of her power. So again, nothing shows DF Wendy defeating Lucy.

 

[Stormsfury]

Wendy literally had no effect on Dimaria. Don't go back on your words especially after telling someone to re-read a chapter. Keep in mind that the one kick you keep referencing was with Chelia's help, not to mention, Ultear as well. There is no indication that Wendy alone would have damaged Dimaria at all. Especially since it took part of Chelia's power to just scratch her, so without her help, there wouldn't be any feats that would prove your point. Plus, she is stronger than Wendy and she is a God Slayer.

Wendy blocking Dimaria's attack doesn't say anything about whether she could defeat Lucy or not... Sure, she can block Lucy's attack. Never denied that. How about the other way around? Lucy can block DF Wendy's attacks with her celestial spirits too. The point here is not who can block. It is who will win in a fight. From what I saw, that one magical barrier that Wendy used nearly drained her of her power. So again, nothing shows DF Wendy defeating Lucy.

*sigh* I give up arguing with you, you say Wendy had literally no effect on Dimaria when she clearly did, with her first surprise attack, she sent Dimaria flying and bruised her, that is an affecting someone, jesus man, I'll even provide panels since you can't remember.
Here is Wendy kicking Dimaria without help........

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Here is the bruise Dimaria received from the kick........

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Wendy would one-shot Lucy's spirits, because she can affect the Spriggan 12, I doubt that Lucy would even be able to summon any spirits with the speed of Wendy's attacks, the margin between the two in speed is so great it's not even funny.

I doubt any of Lucy's attack would land because:
1. Wendy would easily dodge them.
2. If she isn't dodging them then she will be using a barrier that blocked an attack from one of the 12.

No way in hell Lucy is winning this, bring me proof that Lucy's spirits can tank attacks on the scale of DF Wendy's......... Bring me proof that they can keep up with someone moving at DF Wendy's speed.......... Bring me proof Lucy can keep up with DF Wendy's speed, the last time one of the 12 attacked her she needed Natsu to come save her ass, she literally just stood there and waited for the knives to hit her lol. Why didn't she summon one of her spirits to block them?

Wendy >>> Lucy. It's not even a match.

 

[Damon blevins]

Lucy is stronger than Laxus and jellal.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

*sigh* I give up arguing with you, you say Wendy had literally no effect on Dimaria when she clearly did, with her first surprise attack, she sent Dimaria flying and bruised her, that is an affecting someone, jesus man, I'll even provide panels since you can't remember.
Here is Wendy kicking Dimaria without help........

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Here is the bruise Dimaria received from the kick........

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Wendy would one-shot Lucy's spirits, because she can affect the Spriggan 12, I doubt that Lucy would even be able to summon any spirits with the speed of Wendy's attacks, the margin between the two in speed is so great it's not even funny.

I doubt any of Lucy's attack would land because:
1. Wendy would easily dodge them.
2. If she isn't dodging them then she will be using a barrier that blocked an attack from one of the 12.

No way in hell Lucy is winning this, bring me proof that Lucy's spirits can tank attacks on the scale of DF Wendy's......... Bring me proof that they can keep up with someone moving at DF Wendy's speed.......... Bring me proof Lucy can keep up with DF Wendy's speed, the last time one of the 12 attacked her she needed Natsu to come save her ass, she literally just stood there and waited for the knives to hit her lol. Why didn't she summon one of her spirits to block them?

Wendy >>> Lucy. It's not even a match.

And you call that having an effect? That didn't even faze her or do anything to her. Look at the following panels.

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I would even go as far as to say that was just a mark. No damage there. Unless you tell me that Dimaria can heal herself, I don't know why you even bother to consider it as proof when you clearly ignored the panels after that scene. Additionally, note that Wendy had a open shot at Dimaria because she was focusing on Chelia. Yet again, another indirect help. On a real one-on-one fight, Wendy couldn't even damage her, let alone touch her as she would parry all of Wendy's attacks.

As for Lucy, I'm not arguing she is stronger than DF Wendy. They're on the same level and I believe I made that very clear. I don't think I need to repeat myself again. Like I said, Lucy doesn't have to have the same durability was DF Wendy because she can't even be touched. With the amount of celestial spirits she can summon, it would take most of Wendy's energy just to defeat all her celestial spirits and then proceed to fight Lucy.

 

[Bliscor]

Lucy is stronger than Laxus and jellal.

Indeed. She oneshotted base Jackal with CIS so therefore she can defeat those two who are fodder compared to her.

All hail blonde boobies.