Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[Raven]

Still people have a right to have they own opinion ( don't we :P) and shnippers tend to force they bias to characters and attack others just because people have different opinion.
Sometimes you can't even discuss a character or write what you think about him or her without being attacked people tend to get blinded and acting like i would stab her someone from they family ( I know that all people are like that ) it's similar to sometimes pointless power level discussion when people try to force they opinion on others ignoring the facts other person providing.
In that moment ships become for me a cancer of the series with people blinded with they bias towards characters ( example : i've read so many bi....s and other words towards Kagura and Hiro after chapter 481 although here it wasn't that bad :P)

Also so far the only canon is Alzack and Bisca ship
I don't care so much about ships but let others have their opinions if we would have all the same opinion they would be nothing to discuss/talk about isn't that right.


Worst parents setup ever ( Not that they are many people in FT that seem to be a good parents in future ) :P the kid future would be so dark and cruel in this one

ٍShips wars/power debate are the worst i can tell you people can't tolerate any discussion especially when the anime is 10 years old. Most of us developed a strong emotion to our pairing and characters it become really strong by the time. I don't say that i'm already better like i didn't make the same mistakes but instead of showing some patience we become filled with haterd and recently i can't have a single discussion where fans treating eachother decently, i can only see people raging teasing baiting and criticising eachother just because someone has a disagreement. Watching this manga went for being fun to discuss and to improve to a spark of abuse.

So people need to stop baiting like saying X ship is forced X character sucks that is not an opinion it is only baiting also it shows how biased you are for y character that you wished to takeover X character's place.

 

[darkenedreality]

While it's true you can like and ship what you want, don't deny canon. If you do you're setting yourself up for disappointment, and shouldn't be surprised when people call you out on it. Nalu, Gruvia, Jerza, Gajevy, Elfgreen, etc have no competition. These characters only have romantic interactions with their pairing partner.

 

[Vici]

ٍShips wars/power debate are the worst i can tell you people can't tolerate any discussion especially when the anime is 10 years old. Most of us developed a strong emotion to our pairing and characters it become really strong by the time. I don't say that i'm already better like i didn't make the same mistakes but instead of showing some patience we become filled with haterd and recently i can't have a single discussion where fans treating eachother decently, i can only see people raging teasing baiting and criticising eachother just because someone has a disagreement. Watching this manga went for being fun to discuss and to improve to a spark of abuse.

So people need to stop baiting like saying X ship is forced X character sucks that is not an opinion it is only baiting also it shows how biased you are for y character that you wished to takeover X character's place.

I have some strong emotion to some characters in series as well but i can stay objective at these characters and read other peoples opinion at them and critise some of they action myself.
That's my point exactly you can like some of the characters but if someone will give his opinion ( even if it's negative ) and it's not like " worst character","why the f...( i'm sorry) we get more panels of x characters instead of Y" there's no point on jumping on someone who just give his opinion away ( we can like some aspects of certain character and dislike it as well ) so there's no need to fill yourself with hatred and anger just take few breaths and respond or ignore at all ( i'm doing that at power level discussion )

Minerva
Kagura
Mirajane
Rogue
Cana
Jura
Brandish
Solano
Wendy

To stay more on topic :P :
Kagura - Alone status or with Millianna
Mira - Laxus i think ( it get it my mind during Phantom arc :P)
Rogue - Frosch or Minerva ( i think Rogue likes Frosch more )
Cana - don't care i don't know .
Jura - Alone status
Brandish - dunno
Solano - i can see her with someone from OS

 

[Kimoho]

Nalu, Gruvia, Jerza, Gajevy, Elfgreen, etc have no competition. These characters only have romantic interactions with their pairing partner.

As a matter of fact only Jerza,Gajevy,Elfgreen have romantic interactions ...
Nalu : close friendship relationship
Gruvia : one sided

 

[Axiomus]

I don't think it's necessarily wrong to argue about pairings.. If you're going to say your pairing is better than another or criticize another pairing for whatever reason, you have to be open to the idea that your ideas might get shot down. Bottom line is that we can't all be right, and some interpretations are simply more accurate. That doesn't mean you can't privately ship whatever you want, or express your enthusiasm for the ships you like. It just means if you put yourself out there with the intention of convincing someone, you have to be willing to back your point up. It's not like we really have the option of censoring the other side. In this way, it's no different from any other discussion. People with good points to make will naturally sound more reasonable to people with less substantive points to make.

This works both ways as well. If you make a strong case for why your pairing is more supported than other pairings, and nobody provides a reasonable counter-argument, then I would say that it's a fair point. People get invested into their favorite characters, and even more invested into the favorite ships. Unfortunately, sometimes that makes these discussions messy. However, this is also true of other discussions. In power-ranking threads, I've seen characters called fodders when by all rights they've been portrayed as top-tiers just because they were associated with characters that people love to hate on. There's not much you can do about that except to use overwhelming evidence to prove them wrong. Much in the same way, if someone calls your pairing onesided or forced there's not much you can do except prove them wrong. And if you can't, well then maybe they have a point.

Where I draw the line is when people start to make things personal. When you start to make generalization about the fans who like pairings or when you start to throw insults at people, that's when it starts to become annoying.

 

[Raven]

As a matter of fact only Jerza,Gajevy,Elfgreen have romantic interactions ...
Nalu : close friendship relationship
Gruvia : one sided

Gruvia is one sided that's why he went for juvia in GMG at the wedding event. that's why he died for her.
Nalu : close friendship ? someone brought for you a floating tree you call that a friend ship ? someone always in your house you call that a friendship, someone you always believe in you call that a friend ship ? Everyone is Natsu's close friend why he don't break into everyones house then ?. Lucy is the newest member on fairytail tho besides Gajeel , Juvia. Moreover why you ignored Lucy's feelings for Natsu ? If this isn't love then i don't know what is love.

 

[Nemispelled]

While it's true you can like and ship what you want, don't deny canon. If you do you're setting yourself up for disappointment, and shouldn't be surprised when people call you out on it. Nalu, Gruvia, Jerza, Gajevy, Elfgreen, etc have no competition. These characters only have romantic interactions with their pairing partner.

Right back at ya. So if Mashima does a surprise couple, I don't want to see anybody like you start complaining or calling out Mashima on it.

If by some miracle, Jellagura (Jellal x Kagura) becomes canon, I don't want to see another complaint about Erza not happening.


It's ok to have your own favorite couple, but before you start saying something has "no competition", you should wait when all is said and done.


Otherwise, you may be setting yourself up for a major disappointment. So don't complain, get pissed, or get angry when your ship does not happen.


And I'm not saying it won't, but if the rule applies to crack shippers, then the same rule also applies to shippers like you.

One thing I hate is when somebody denies canon proof (Kagura kissing Jellal). Whether it is romance or not, we don't know. But was it a kiss? Obviously.


When Levy made lip contact with Gajeel, people called it a kiss.

When Kagura made lip contact with Jellal, people called it CPR.

And scientifically, Levy and Kagura literally did the exact same thing... but on different people, at different times, and in different places.

 

[Raven]

Right back at ya. So if Mashima does a surprise couple, I don't want to see anybody like you start complaining or calling out Mashima on it.

If by some miracle, Jellagura (Jellal x Kagura) becomes canon, I don't want to see another complaint about Erza not happening.


It's ok to have your own favorite couple, but before you start saying something has "no competition", you should wait when all is said and done.


Otherwise, you may be setting yourself up for a major disappointment. So don't complain, get pissed, or get angry when your ship does not happen.


And I'm not saying it won't, but if the rule applies to crack shippers, then the same rule also applies to shippers like you.

One thing I hate is when somebody denies canon proof (Kagura kissing Jellal). Whether it is romance or not, we don't know. But was it a kiss? Obviously.


When Levy made lip contact with Gajeel, people called it a kiss.

When Kagura made lip contact with Jellal, people called it CPR.

And scientifically, Levy and Kagura literally did the exact same thing... but on different people, at different times, and in different places.

The difference between Levy and Kagura Cpr is this :
Levy has an actual feelings for Gajeel so it is counted as a kiss.
Kagura hasn't showed any actual feelings for Jellal so it doesn't count as a kiss.

 

[Nemispelled]

The difference between Levy and Kagura Cpr is this :
Levy has an actual feelings for Gajeel so it is counted as a kiss.
Kagura has any actual feelings for Jellal so it doesn't count as a kiss.

We don't know if Kagura secretly has feelings for Jellal.

Again, let's not start denying and assuming things. Maybe it was romance or maybe it wasn't, but you don't know what goes on in their minds.


Gray has always been a good guy. But that wasn't what he was showing us readers in Avatar Arc when he joined the cult. Just because somebody shows something, it doesn't mean it's what they actually feel.



We know that Kagura is a shy person. I mean, cmon, she already had enough trouble revealing to Erza that she wanted to be "sisters".

For a girl like that, what makes you think Kagura will one day show up in front of Jellal with a straight face and say, "I f****** love you.." or admit her feelings for him.

We simply don't know..

 

[Axiomus]

It's true that only Jellal and Erza, Gajeel and Levy, and Elfman and Evergreen are confirmed to have full blown romantic feelings on both sides. That being said, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Natsu and Lucy and Gray and Juvia are likely to happen as well. My policy to any pairings is to deny it unless there is a good reason not to. There is way too much Natsu and Lucy fanservice interactions, extra chapters, filler scnes, movie scenes, and twitter pictures for me to deny the high probability that this pairing will end up happening. Currently, even if it isn't full blown romantic love, I think we can agree that Lucy has some feelings for Natsu.

For Gray and Juvia, I found the moment Juvia revealed to be the one that killed Keith to be the nail in the coffin. Up until that point, Gray probably thought that he was the one who killed Silver. After all, he did blow a hole through him. By revealing that Silver only died because the necromancer controller him was taken out, Juvia essentially absolved Gray of any guilt he could have had. That, I think, was why he broke down crying and started to thank Juvia. This was a powerful moment for the two, and it sold me on the whole ship. With Gray saying that he'll give Juvia an answer after the war, I think it's only a matter of time before the inevitable.

Kagura has a legitimate reason to hate Jellal. Jellal actually killed Simon. During the grand magic games, Kagura actually wanted to kill Jellal. She was actually willing to go through with killing Erza just for defending Jellal, at least until she heard about Rosemary. Even recently, she was shown to be spiteful towards Jellal until he saved her. Is it reasonable to assume she might hate Jellal slightly less for saving her? Sure. Could she have fallen in love? Maybe, but that's a stretch. Is it reasonable to assume that she was actually in love with Jellal all this time? I doubt it.

 

[Raven]

We don't know if Kagura secretly has feelings for Jellal.

Again, let's not start denying and assuming things. Maybe it was romance or maybe it wasn't, but you don't know what goes on in their minds.


Gray has always been a good guy. But that wasn't what he was showing us readers in Avatar Arc when he joined the cult. Just because somebody shows something, it doesn't mean it's what they actually feel.



We know that Kagura is a shy person. I mean, cmon, she already had enough trouble revealing to Erza that she wanted to be "sisters".

For a girl like that, what makes you think Kagura will one day show up in front of Jellal with a straight face and say, "I f****** love you.." or admit her feelings for him.

We simply don't know..

Then put yourself in the same situation, A girl murdered your brother and with the first sight you secretly fall in love with her weirdo relation don't you think.

 

[Axiomus]

Right back at ya. So if Mashima does a surprise couple, I don't want to see anybody like you start complaining or calling out Mashima on it.

If by some miracle, Jellagura (Jellal x Kagura) becomes canon, I don't want to see another complaint about Erza not happening.


It's ok to have your own favorite couple, but before you start saying something has "no competition", you should wait when all is said and done.


Otherwise, you may be setting yourself up for a major disappointment. So don't complain, get pissed, or get angry when your ship does not happen.


And I'm not saying it won't, but if the rule applies to crack shippers, then the same rule also applies to shippers like you.

One thing I hate is when somebody denies canon proof (Kagura kissing Jellal). Whether it is romance or not, we don't know. But was it a kiss? Obviously.


When Levy made lip contact with Gajeel, people called it a kiss.

When Kagura made lip contact with Jellal, people called it CPR.

And scientifically, Levy and Kagura literally did the exact same thing... but on different people, at different times, and in different places.

Well, that's pretty fair. I'm perfectly happy to put my chips on the table, and I'm perfectly okay if the ships I support turn out to be wrong. If the pairings I predict turn out to be correct I reserve the right to gloat indefinitely. It is really no different from any other theory I put out there. I'll even make a little interesting: I don't have a profile picture yet. If Kagura manages to snatch Jellal away from Erza by the end of the series, I will change my picture to an image of your choosing (nothing explicit).

Levy and Kagura did the same thing. On different people, at different times, in different places. Also different backstories, different context, and different motives. Levy rushed to save Gajeel because she was worried about him. There was a moment where Kagura contemplated on whether or not to let Jellal die.

 

[Otaku shrink]

*pops popcorn, kicks back and watches the antics*

Admittedly, on the forums, I don't usually discuss ships, because I maintain a separate presence for that on Tumblr. I started on the forums as a way to discuss the series as a whole since I learned a long time ago that once you start talking ships, people ignore what you think and call you a shipper who doesn't pay attention to plot.

I will say though:
Some of you folks are slapping the one-sided label on Gruvia and the platonic label on Nalu, as much as those statements can probably quite easily argued against, it's not worth arguing since I'd imagine you either are ambivalent to pairing in general or are stuck to another pairing idea instead. That's ok, but I can't say I agree one bit.

 

[Nemispelled]

Kagura has a legitimate reason to hate Jellal. Jellal actually killed Simon. During the grand magic games, Kagura actually wanted to kill Jellal. She was actually willing to go through with killing Erza just for defending Jellal, at least until she heard about Rosemary. Even recently, she was shown to be spiteful towards Jellal until he saved her. Is it reasonable to assume she might hate Jellal slightly less for saving her? Sure. Could she have fallen in love? Maybe, but that's a stretch. Is it reasonable to assume that she was actually in love with Jellal all this time? I doubt it.

Just because one person shows hate for another, it doesn't mean that hatred will always exist. Hate will not always remain hate. In fact, hate sometimes turns into the opposite. That's part of having human qualities.


Going off your logic, I can say the same thing. Half of the couples you listed above have actually fought each other in the past.

Jellal almost killed Erza in ToH Arc.

Gajeel literally abused Levy and had her nailed/hanging from a tree, exposing her in public in Phantom Arc.

Evergreen fought Elfman and turned him into stone in Fighting Festival Arc.


There are a million other people having the same scenarios. Many years ago, when the chapter was released where Gajeel basically raped Levy, people like you would've said "I doubt those 2 will be a couple."

Look at where it is now. Arguably one of the most canon and shipped couple of the FT series.

 

[Kimoho]

Gruvia is one sided that's why he went for juvia in GMG at the wedding event. that's why he died for her.

I'm gonna ignore the part where you talk about the filler (wedding event).
Now about Gray sacrificing himself, he would do the same for any of his friends, and never forget he rejected her right after that ...

 

[Nemispelled]

Then put yourself in the same situation, A girl murdered your brother and with the first sight you secretly fall in love with her weirdo relation don't you think.

Levy is pretty much gonna marry the guy who raped her years ago.

Remember? The guy who nailed/hung her on a tree in public during the Phantom Arc??

I'll give you a hint. His first name is Gajeel. His last name is Redfox. You can't miss him. He has metal studs all over his face.

Put yourself in that situation.

 

[jellalsexualll]

We don't know if Kagura secretly has feelings for Jellal.

Again, let's not start denying and assuming things. Maybe it was romance or maybe it wasn't, but you don't know what goes on in their minds.


Gray has always been a good guy. But that wasn't what he was showing us readers in Avatar Arc when he joined the cult. Just because somebody shows something, it doesn't mean it's what they actually feel.



We know that Kagura is a shy person. I mean, cmon, she already had enough trouble revealing to Erza that she wanted to be "sisters".

For a girl like that, what makes you think Kagura will one day show up in front of Jellal with a straight face and say, "I f****** love you.." or admit her feelings for him.

We simply don't know..

Uh... she doesn't... don't be ridiculous. I'm sorry but this post is just laughable. You can pretend and ship all you want, but nothing has ever even been remotely suggested Kagura has "secret feelings" for Jellal whatsoever. And uh... they're fictional characters. Nothing goes on in their minds beyond what you see Mashima draw and write on panel, so seriously? Stop ignoring what's right in front of you. There are no romantic indications canonically on panel between Jellal and Kagura. On top of that, Kagura would never betray Erza like that. She loves Erza and she knows Jellal and Erza are in love. Kagura knows he belongs with her, regardless of anything. Hence her smile after Jellal destroyed Neinhart. And who did Jellal destroy Neinhart for? Certainly not Kagura, and not the others out there fighting. He destroyed him, and "committed a sin once more" for Erza. And nobody else. We see character development for Kagura. For Kagura to save the life of and slowly start to forgive the man who's hand killed her brother, that's saying something. That's not romantic implication, so just how about you not.

 

[Raven]

Levy is pretty much gonna marry the guy who raped her years ago.

Remember? The guy who nailed/hung her on a tree in public during the Phantom Arc??

I'll give you a hint. His first name is Gajeel. His last name is Redfox. You can't miss him. He has metal studs all over his face.

Put yourself in that situation.

If i were Levy i ll accept Gajeel because both of us love eachother still sound more plausible than secretly loving your brother killer.

 

[jellalsexualll]

Jellal almost killed Erza in ToH Arc.

Actually, Ultear almost killed Erza in the Tower of Heaven using Jellal. Considering she has confirmed herself to be controlling him during all of that, it would've been Ultear at fault. Ultear also confirmed she is the one who killed Simon. She used Jellal like a puppet and nothing more. So stop. Seriously.

 

[Axiomus]

Just because one person shows hate for another, it doesn't mean that hatred will always change. Hate will not always remain hate. In fact, hate sometimes turns into the opposite. That's part of having human qualities.


Going off your logic, I can say the same thing. Half of the couples you listed above have actually fought each other in the past.

Jellal almost killed Erza in ToH Arc.

Gajeel literally abused Levy and had her nailed/hanging from a tree, exposing her in public in Phantom Arc.

Evergreen fought Elfman and turned him into stone in Fighting Festival Arc.


There are a million other people having the same scenarios. Many years ago, when the chapter was released where Gajeel basically raped Levy, people like you would've said "I doubt those 2 will be a couple."

Look at where it is now. Arguably one of the most canon and shipped couple of the FT series.

Sure. But prove to me that Kagura's hate has changed to love for Jellal. I'm not saying Kagura will always and forever hate Jellal. I'll even acknowledge that she might be opening up to Jellal. That doesn't mean she loves him. It certainly doesn't mean that between the time she got shot by Neinhart and to when Jellal got pinned, Kagura fell in love with Jellal and kissed him out of love.

Gajeel beat up Levy and her team, and hanged them up by a tree. Surely was it a sign of aggression and an act of war towards Fairy Tail. But, did he rape her? No. That would imply he also raped Let and Droy. Now I'm not defending what Gajeel did, but it wasn't rape. Gajeel did basically the same thing to Levy and her team that Alvarez did to Sabertooth.