Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Does intelligence outside of battle really have anything to do to power ranking? Sure 'in-battle intelligence' matters but not something like an excuse to go hide a sickness from people when it's starting to hit.

When it comes to battle intelligence it's about strategy and magic/physicals. This is why I think Erza/Gray aren't really any smarter than Natsu/Laxus. If the former had the latter's abilities they would fight the same as the latter imo.

Well, here is the thing. In terms of strategy and tactics, nobody can have low intelligence. You are either capable of figuring out your opponents' weaknesses or not. If you are able to counter them, that adds to your intelligence. If you're aren't able to do so, then that doesn't affect your intelligence at all. In other words, your intelligence will remain neutral. So if that is the case, how do we determine if someone has low intelligence when nobody can go below the "average" threshold? If you subject yourself to be countered, then that is influenced by outside-battle intelligence and I'll explain why.

In-battle intelligence always comes first. If the character barely has any, that is when outside-battle intelligence comes to play. I disagree that Erza and Gray aren't really much smarter than Natsu/Laxus. Not only do they have more smart in-battle feats than any other character but they haven't been portrayed to have low intelligence outside of battle either (excluding comedy scenes).

So, this is where intelligence outside of battle comes in. In theory, intelligence outside of battle doesn't have as much of an impact on power ranking but it still defines your overall intelligence. For example, Natsu underestimates Zeref (or overestimates his abilities) and decides to fight him. Did that have anything to do with countering your opponent or finding out their weaknesses? No. But it wasn't a smart move it and could have killed him too. Also, Natsu doesn't understand when situations are dire so during the Battle of Fairy Tail Arc, he made jokes about fighting Lucy and didn't believe Laxus was serious until it was almost too late. Again, nothing here is about strategy/tactics but it still lowers his intelligence.

Laxus is just like Natsu in a sense that he jumps the gun and doesn't have a plan. His temper leads him to being unable to think straight. He is the type that doesn't really have an approach to dealing with enemies, rather he just thinks he can beat them up with brute force. In a way, this can lead to his death. Laxus was lucky Wahl wasn't so bright either. Had Wahl not given Laxus power to begin with (even after his "full" analysis), Laxus could have ended up losing the fight.

Let's think back to Jacob again. His mistake costed him to lose the fight. Do we all agree he has low intelligence? Jacob didn't plan correctly which is why he failed to realize that by making Lucy's clothes disappear, not only will it affect Natsu but he will be able to see Lucy's body as well.

Similarly, Laxus was not thinking and ignorant to the point that he still thought he had a chance to defeat Wahl. He failed to realize the severity of the situation despite the fact that he knew his lightning was directly countered by Wahl's immunity. Honestly, Wahl could have ended Laxus right then and there if there was no PoF involved.

My Point: Battle Feats directly affects Intelligence. Non-Battle Feats indirectly affects Intelligence. Academic Intelligence is different. You don't need to calculate your enemy's energy output or the angle in which you attack them in order to beat them.

 

[Brandish μ]

Well, here is the thing. In terms of strategy and tactics, nobody can have low intelligence. You are either capable of figuring out your opponents' weaknesses or not. If you are able to counter them, that adds to your intelligence. If you're aren't able to do so, then that doesn't affect your intelligence at all. In other words, it will remain neutral. So if that is the case, how do we determine if someone has low intelligence when nobody can go below the "average" threshold?

In-battle intelligence always comes first. If the character barely has any, that is when outside-battle intelligence comes to play. I disagree that Erza and Gray aren't really much smarter than Natsu/Laxus. Not only do they have more smart in-battle feats than any other character but they haven't been portrayed to have low intelligence outside of battle either (excluding comedy scenes).

I do agree Gray and Erza have more strategic feats/displays. But like with all feats, there's a varying degree of difficulty. Laxus using Jutsu Shiki to cure his sickness is as good a strategy feat as we see in a manga where strategy isn't an overly big thing. Elfman using a defensive take over v Bacchus at the GMG is another strategic feat that would rival the best of Gray/Erza.

My main point is fighting styles and tactics are relative to a persons attributes and abilities. If Gray was switched in to Laxus' body and fought the same way he does with IM he'd likely perform worse than Laxus does. The converse would apply. This is because Laxus has stronger physicals and his magic is suited to CQC. Gray's magic is more versatile and his body isn't as strong, so he uses his magic to account for this and thus his fighting style is different.

So, this is where intelligence outside of battle comes in. In theory, intelligence outside of battle doesn't have as much of an impact on power ranking but it still defines your overall intelligence. For example, Natsu underestimates Zeref (or overestimates his abilities) and decides to fight him. Did that have anything to do with countering your opponent or finding out their weaknesses? No. But it wasn't a smart move it and could have killed him too. Also, Natsu doesn't understand when situations are dire so during the Battle of Fairy Tail Arc, he made jokes about fighting Lucy and didn't believe Laxus was serious until it was almost too late. Again, nothing here is about strategy/tactics but it still lowers his intelligence.

Zeref kinda concedes that Natsu could kill him. Natsu did have Igneel's power in his arm. Natsu doesn't think he can kill Acnologia with it, but Zeref quite possibly. Natsu isn't the smartest, but I don't think this type of intelligence impacts power ranking tbh, given that all power displays are pretty much derived from battles, and it is a fighting manga.

Laxus is just like Natsu in a sense that he jumps the gun and doesn't have a plan. His temper leads him to being unable to think straight. He is the type that doesn't really have an approach to dealing with enemies, rather he just thinks about beating up his enemy with brute force. In a way, this can lead to his death. Laxus was lucky Wahl wasn't so bright either. Had Wahl not given Laxus power to begin with (even after his "full" analysis), Laxus could have ended up losing the fight.

Wahl didn't know Laxus was a dragon slayer. There isn't a panel to support that, he analysed Laxus capabilities (said Laxus could perform at FT top tier despite MBP's) and when he looked into Laxus all he saw was MBP's. Wahl got tricked into using his Particle Canceler, and Wahl was unlucky to use the Rail-gun - Laxus got lucky there.

I do agree Laxus going in there hot-headed was not a smart move as his sickness could start at any time. His fighting style is brute force though, and he's one of the most powerful people in the series. There really isn't anyone he'd be wary of, except Acnologia and Zeref.

Let's think back to Jacob again. His mistake costed him to lose the fight. Do we all agree he has low intelligence? Jacob didn't plan correctly which is why he failed to realize that by making Lucy's clothes disappear, not only will it affect Natsu but he will also be subjected to seeing her body.

Jacob either possesses low intelligence or made a silly move.

Similarly, Laxus was not thinking and ignorant to the point that he still thought he had a chance to defeat Wahl. He failed to realize the severity of the situation despite the fact that he knew his lightning was directly countered by Wahl's immunity. Honestly, Wahl could have ended Laxus right then and there is there was no PoF involved.

My Point: Battle Feats directly affects Intelligence. Non-Battle Feats indirectly affects Intelligence. Academic Intelligence is different. You don't need to calculate your enemy's energy output or the angle in which you attack them in order to beat them.

Laxus did get sick very early in the fight. At that point he had but a few marks on his chin. He knew he had red lightning, which he assumed can counter the lightning immunity. PoF might give RL more power, but it doesn't invent the tech - so that point of yours is invalid.

I can agree with your point, though Non-Battle feats are almost negligible imo. Because power ranking is almost always derived from combat/fights, as this is a battle-manga. But that's quite debatable in itself and everyone has slightly different ways to assess power rankings.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I do agree Gray and Erza have more strategic feats/displays. But like with all feats, there's a varying degree of difficulty. Laxus using Jutsu Shiki to cure his sickness is as good a strategy feat as we see in a manga where strategy isn't an overly big thing. Elfman using a defensive take over v Bacchus at the GMG is another strategic feat that would rival the best of Gray/Erza.

My main point is fighting styles and tactics are relative to a persons attributes and abilities. If Gray was switched in to Laxus' body and fought the same way he does with IM he'd likely perform worse than Laxus does. The converse would apply. This is because Laxus has stronger physicals and his magic is suited to CQC. Gray's magic is more versatile and his body isn't as strong, so he uses his magic to account for this and thus his fighting style is different.



Zeref kinda concedes that Natsu could kill him. Natsu did have Igneel's power in his arm. Natsu doesn't think he can kill Acnologia with it, but Zeref quite possibly. Natsu isn't the smartest, but I don't think this type of intelligence impacts power ranking tbh, given that all power displays are pretty much derived from battles, and it is a fighting manga.



Wahl didn't know Laxus was a dragon slayer. There isn't a panel to support that, he analysed Laxus capabilities (said Laxus could perform at FT top tier despite MBP's) and when he looked into Laxus all he saw was MBP's. Wahl got tricked into using his Particle Canceler, and Wahl was unlucky to use the Rail-gun - Laxus got lucky there.

I do agree Laxus going in there hot-headed was not a smart move as his sickness could start at any time. His fighting style is brute force though, and he's one of the most powerful people in the series. There really isn't anyone he'd be wary of, except Acnologia and Zeref.



Jacob either possesses low intelligence or made a silly move.



Laxus did get sick very early in the fight. At that point he had but a few marks on his chin. He knew he had red lightning, which he assumed can counter the lightning immunity. PoF might give RL more power, but it doesn't invent the tech - so that point of yours is invalid.

I can agree with your point, though Non-Battle feats are almost negligible imo. Because power ranking is almost always derived from combat/fights, as this is a battle-manga. But that's quite debatable in itself and everyone has slightly different ways to assess power rankings.

Someone like Gray who might not be on Laxus' level doesn't have to resort to strategy just because his power isn't on Laxus' level. What I mean is that although Laxus may excel in attack power and CQC, he can still have high intelligence. It is just that his character is not designed that way. The part where Laxus used the Jutsu Shiki (logic was a stretch) and Elfman used his armored lizard body does add to their intelligence but like I said, nothing compared to Gray or Erza which is exactly my point. The number of intelligent feats from Gray and Erza surpasses the rest.

Okay, even if Natsu can kill Zeref, that just makes it worse. Natsu was about to sacrifice his life in order to kill Zeref. Although it may seem heroic (which it is) it can backfire for Fairy Tail. If Natsu died, Lucy would immediately give up and Fairy Tail's morale would decrease to 0. This isn't a smart thing to do especially when the overall outcome of the war is all that matters. Many people hated on Happy to which I never understood why but I found him to be the more sensible one of the two. It is best that Natsu finds out more about the connection between E.N.D and Zeref before trying to kill him. Another prime example of being reckless and not thinking straight. Zeref could have been bluffing but risks should not be taken like that. This is just my opinion though.

I know nothing was shown in the panel like a lightning dragon lacrima but I find it very convenient that Wahl can pick out minute details about Ichiya and the microscopic MBP's but not anything about Laxus being a dragon slayer. I guess we'll just leave it as that because I know it won't go anywhere. I consider this to be somewhat of a plot hole. You may argue that it was not within Wahl's capability but at the same time, he was able to find every single weakness a character possesses like Ichiya.

Actually, when I argue that Red Lightning is PoF, I'm not talking about the power. I've agreed with others that I believe Laxus has gotten very strong and that he should possess such power. What I find very illogical is the fact that Red Lightning bypassed Wahl's immunity. The explanation that was given, "Lightning that is not lightning", really killed the fight for me. Laxus didn't know the attack would negate Wahl's immunity so he was lucky once again (PoF involved). Literally, everything went in Laxus' favor in this battle when it wasn't supposed to.

 

[Stormsfury]

Does intelligence outside of battle really have anything to do to power ranking? Sure 'in-battle intelligence' matters but not something like an excuse to go hide a sickness from people when it's starting to hit.

When it comes to battle intelligence it's about strategy and magic/physicals. This is why I think Erza/Gray aren't really any smarter than Natsu/Laxus. If the former had the latter's abilities they would fight the same as the latter imo.

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I think there is a difference between Laxus knowing Wahl could cure him and Laxus going to Hargeon to be cured.

To me it's obvious that Laxus knows Wahl can bring down barriers, and he assumes Wahl can nullify the MBP's in his body.

I don't think being cured was the motive. Busting Wahl's head in for what he did to the Raijinshuu is priority no.1. I think if Laxus didn't get sick in the fight he would have eventually used Red Lightning and won, taking less damage than he did.

But he did get sick, and I think his back-up plan for sickness was to use Jutsu Shiki and have Wahl cure him.

I don't agree that healing himself with the Jutsu Shiki was a plan B, that wouldn't make any sense, if he wanted to just destroy Wahl straight off the bat then he could have deployed Red Lightning during the very early stages of the fight and one shotted Wahl. Also making taking care of a possibly fatal illness a back-up plan would seem extremely silly, that should be your main priority.

 

[Brandish μ]

I don't agree that healing himself with the Jutsu Shiki was a plan B, that wouldn't make any sense, if he wanted to just destroy Wahl straight off the bat then he could have deployed Red Lightning during the very early stages of the fight and one shotted Wahl. Also making taking care of a possibly fatal illness a back-up plan would seem extremely silly, that should be your main priority.

Well you do have a point. So if we do assume getting cured is his aim, then how would the plan unfold? We know getting sick is not a part of his plans. And he needs at least some time (like Etherion cast-time) to get a Jutsu Shiki in. Or, as you've put it, should Laxus use Jutsu Shiki right off the bat?

The main reason why I think giving Wahl a beating is the priority is that we've got Laxus in quite a few panels clearly pissed off with Wahl about what he did to Freed and the others. Tbh I think Laxus doesn't care about his illness being cured anywhere near as much, if we take his words as him being honest. That's why I think using Jutsu Shiki was a contingency. He was really in a position where there was no other option.

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Someone like Gray who might not be on Laxus' level doesn't have to resort to strategy just because his power isn't on Laxus' level. What I mean is that although Laxus may excel in attack power and CQC, he can still have high intelligence. It is just that his character is not designed that way. The part where Laxus used the Jutsu Shiki (logic was a stretch) and Elfman used his armored lizard body does add to their intelligence but like I said, nothing compared to Gray or Erza which is exactly my point. The number of intelligent feats from Gray and Erza surpasses the rest.

I do agree the number of feats is in Gray/Erza's favour. But Laxus has showed the capacity to use a tactic in battle that is on par with the best Gray/Erza/others have showed. Essentially I rate intelligence relative to a persons skill set, rightly or wrongly. There really isn't a better way for Laxus to fight imo.

Okay, even if Natsu can kill Zeref, that just makes it worse. Natsu was about to sacrifice his life in order to kill Zeref. Although it may seem heroic (which it is) it can backfire for Fairy Tail. If Natsu died, Lucy would immediately give up and Fairy Tail's morale would decrease to 0. This isn't a smart thing to do especially when the overall outcome of the war is all that matters. Many people hated on Happy to which I never understood why but I found him to be the more sensible one of the two. It is best that Natsu finds out more about the connection between E.N.D and Zeref before trying to kill him. Another prime example of being reckless and not thinking straight. Zeref could have been bluffing but risks should not be taken like that. This is just my opinion though.

Well Natsu could also be considering how unlikely it would be for anyone else to kill Zeref. Who in the guild, or Earthland could? Zeref is waging an all-out war on a continent so there's good reason to kill him. I can agree Natsu does take risks and can be reckless but this one I am completely fine with because he can only use Igneel's power once and wants to make it count, and he's probably at that stage the only one who could kill Zeref. He also had no knowledge of Zeref being his brother and himself being END, so that news + the limitation of Igneel's power is quite a difficult situation for anyone to make the correct decision. And in saying that, killing Zeref is a decision I think was fine to make.

I know nothing was shown in the panel like a lightning dragon lacrima but I find it very convenient that Wahl can pick out minute details about Ichiya and the microscopic MBP's but not anything about Laxus being a dragon slayer. I guess we'll just leave it as that because I know it won't go anywhere. I consider this to be somewhat of a plot hole. You may argue that it was not within Wahl's capability but at the same time, he was able to find every single weakness a character possesses like Ichiya.

I do find it odd how Wahl couldn't see a Lacrima. But if he didn't, I just assume he didn't see it. Those MBP's could have interfered in some way perhaps, all I know is the MBP's were the only thing he commented on.

Actually, when I argue that Red Lightning is PoF, I'm not talking about the power. I've agreed with others that I believe Laxus has gotten very strong and that he should possess such power. What I find very illogical is the fact that Red Lightning bypassed Wahl's immunity. The explanation that was given, "Lightning that is not lightning", really killed the fight for me. Laxus didn't know the attack would negate Wahl's immunity so he was lucky once again (PoF involved). Literally, everything went in Laxus' favor in this battle when it wasn't supposed to.

Well I'm not sure if PoF fits in with how illogical RL is.

The explanation I totally agree is illogical. But it does bypass the immunity, and RL is lightning. These are facts, regardless of how poorly it is explained.

I do agree Laxus got lucky. I wouldn't call RL or Justu Shiki lucky, I think railgun is definitely a lucky break. Laxus got dealt a bad hand though, with the immunity and sickness. Particularly the latter, I can't remember anyone getting struck down mid battle and taking that type of punishment for free. Gildarts v Bluenote is the closest to it, and even that isn't comparable. That's just my 2cents though.

 

[Wayel.b]

May I remind you that sayla with little curse power was able to use macro on Erza (full power), Minerva, 4 exceeds and a dead chairman at the same time. Mira can easily defeat Gajeel with close to no difficulties now with her macro at full power. Logically she is stronger than Erza, even Laxus now

 

[Crimson Ice]

May I remind you that sayla with little curse power was able to use macro on Erza (full power), Minerva, 4 exceeds and a dead chairman at the same time. Mira can easily defeat Gajeel with close to no difficulties now with her macro at full power. Logically she is stronger than Erza, even Laxus now

Erza wasn't at full. She had been tortured, fought Kyouka, and fought Minerva. The exceeds are trash, Lilly wasn't in his buff form while Minerva couldn't even walk on her own at that point. Mira hasn't been stronger than Gajeel since Tenrou and even then it's debatable who'd win during Tenrou. Mira can't beat Erza, let alone Gejeel LET ALONE LAXUS. Stop it.

 

[Jko]

Doesn't matter. They were books.

And Seilah isn't a top 3 9DG. Silver, Kyouka and Torafusa are all stronger than that glass canon.

And yeah pretty much everyone is fodder in up at North except for Gajeel. Mira is borderline fodder..

That's like saying Silver got done in by a mere iron ball, Erza got her leg broken by a rock, Franmelth was killed by a rock, and Gajeel got banged by regular steel... Yeah doesn't make sense like common objects like metal and paper can hurt people who can take punches that bust towns but that's manga logic.

Lmao Torafuza was nowhere near top 3 that fool got punked by Jackal. Top 3 9D were Silver, Kyouka and Sayla. Sayla made Erza and Minerva her B that feat alone puts her in another ballpark than Torafuza who got beat up by an iron pole...(see I can downplay attacks too). Seven Kin subordinates also banged Gajeel when he was healthy while Mira had to fought on par with Azuma the second strongest 7 Kin while already tired and was at a disadvantage as she was distracted by her sister. Yeah if you're calling Mira fodder then you're definitely calling Gajeel fodder.

Erza wasn't at full. She had been tortured, fought Kyouka, and fought Minerva. The exceeds are trash, Lilly wasn't in his buff form while Minerva couldn't even walk on her own at that point. Mira hasn't been stronger than Gajeel since Tenrou and even then it's debatable who'd win during Tenrou. Mira can't beat Erza, let alone Gejeel LET ALONE LAXUS. Stop it.

Kyouka stated she could do it any time

Spoiler

and yes Mira has been stronger than Gajeel this entire time. He almost died by a Twin Dragon tier opponent when Mira was above the likes of Kagura and Minerva tier so yeah she been stronger than Gajeel in the GMG and Tartaros too.

 

[Wayel.b]

Erza wasn't at full. She had been tortured, fought Kyouka, and fought Minerva. The exceeds are trash, Lilly wasn't in his buff form while Minerva couldn't even walk on her own at that point. Mira hasn't been stronger than Gajeel since Tenrou and even then it's debatable who'd win during Tenrou. Mira can't beat Erza, let alone Gejeel LET ALONE LAXUS. Stop it.

Well not full full but 70% or so. Let's forget about Mira for a sec. Will Gajeel or Erza be able to defeat sayla? No I don't think so. No one at the guild besides Mira was a match for her. She can control the living and dead except for demons, Macro is OP you either get it or deny it as much as you want, that curse power is stronger than humans. And we'll see it's limitations in the upcoming chapters

 

[BluePegasus]

Doesn't matter. They were books.

Seilah used book spam against Mira, and books hurt.

And Seilah isn't a top 3 9DG. Silver, Kyouka and Torafusa are all stronger than that glass canon.

Oh yes she is. It's more like this:

1. Kyôka
2. Torafuza
3. Seilah

Why so salty? I never said anything about Erza.

I was trying to say that not only Mirajane's fights are poor. You can't say she is fodder just because she lost some unfair fights. Erza is not stronger than Mira.

 

[Hermit]

Seilah used book spam against Mira, and books hurt.



Oh yes she is. It's more like this:

1. Kyôka
2. Torafuza
3. Seilah



I was trying to say that not only Mirajane's fights are poor. You can't say she is fodder just because she lost some unfair fights. Erza is not stronger than Mira.

I wouldn't put Torafuzar in top 3, I'm surprised you don't have Silver or Tempesta in that list

 

[Static]

I wouldn't put Torafuzar in top 3, I'm surprised you don't have Silver or Tempesta in that list

Well Tempesta was pretty weak in my opinion.

My list would be :

In a short battle -
1) Silver
2) Seilah
3) Torafuzar

In a long battle -
1) Silver
2) Kyouka
3) Seilah

Btw, whose that character in your avvy?

 

[BluePegasus]

Erza wasn't at full. She had been tortured, fought Kyouka, and fought Minerva. The exceeds are trash, Lilly wasn't in his buff form while Minerva couldn't even walk on her own at that point. Mira hasn't been stronger than Gajeel since Tenrou and even then it's debatable who'd win during Tenrou. Mira can't beat Erza, let alone Gejeel LET ALONE LAXUS. Stop it.

Erza only felt pain when Kyôka tortured her, she wasn't wounded.

Her first fight against Kyôka took a view seconds.

Lol do you call Erza vs. Demon Minerva a fight?

Seilah controlled a dead body while she was defeated, please.

Mirajane will use Seilah Soul at full power and kill Erza, Gajeel and Laxus.

 

[Mirage]

That's like saying Silver got done in by a mere iron ball, Erza got her leg broken by a rock, Franmelth was killed by a rock, and Gajeel got banged by regular steel... Yeah doesn't make sense like common objects like metal and paper can hurt people who can take punches that bust towns but that's manga logic.

Lmao Torafuza was nowhere near top 3 that fool got punked by Jackal. Top 3 9D were Silver, Kyouka and Sayla. Sayla made Erza and Minerva her B that feat alone puts her in another ballpark than Torafuza who got beat up by an iron pole...(see I can downplay attacks too). Seven Kin subordinates also banged Gajeel when he was healthy while Mira had to fought on par with Azuma the second strongest 7 Kin while already tired and was at a disadvantage as she was distracted by her sister. Yeah if you're calling Mira fodder then you're definitely calling Gajeel fodder.

and yes Mira has been stronger than Gajeel this entire time. He almost died by a Twin Dragon tier opponent when Mira was above the likes of Kagura and Minerva tier so yeah she been stronger than Gajeel in the GMG and Tartaros too.

Yeah, Silver got done in by a mere iron ball, so he has shit durability. Erza's ankle got broken, but that didn't stop her from whooping Minerva. Franmalth got taken out by a rock, Gajeel got banged by regular steel which never knocked him out. On the other hand, Mira was actually getting occupied by books, BOOKS. That's literally Hiro nerfing Mira right there.

Torausa is easily > Sayla. Tanking an ISD roar to the face already puts Torafusa above Seilah.

You realize Sayla has the shittiest stats right? The only reason she's so high is because her hax. Without it, she's pretty much garbage. She got one-shot by the likes of Elfman.

And please no, Mira was never > Gajeel nor > Kagura and Minerva. God you aren't spewing this crap on AVB are you? Man no wonder I've been hearing that place is cancer.

 

[BluePegasus]

I wouldn't put Torafuzar in top 3, I'm surprised you don't have Silver or Tempesta in that list

Torafuza surpasses both Silver and Tempesta since his curse is more powerful and more dangerous than theirs. His Black Water could easily kill whole Fairy Tail (instead Lisanna, she'll turn into a monster fish and oneshot him) with ease. Silver and Tempesta didn't impress me more than Torafuza. In the end, Silver and Tempesta were defeated by Gray while Gajeel couldn't solo Torafuza.

 

[Tirl]

Mirajane will use Seilah Soul at full power and kill Erza, Gajeel and Laxus.

Agree, that Mira in top 3 ft with Gild and Lax, but she cant defet Lax. And yes, she can kill Erza, Gajeel, and more other people like 1x1 and all on one

 

[Tirl]

Torausa is easily > Sayla.

Sayla can use macro on every Tartaros member Besides Mard. No one can defeat her, only Mard.

 

[Wayel.b]

Sayla can use macro on every Tartaros member Besides Mard. No one can defeat her, only Mard.

She can't use macro on demons. That's why she couldn't control Mira due to demon particles in her body

 

[Hermit]

Well Tempesta was pretty weak in my opinion.

My list would be :

In a short battle -
1) Silver
2) Seilah
3) Torafuzar

In a long battle -
1) Silver
2) Kyouka
3) Seilah

Btw, whose that character in your avvy?

How was he weak? Laxus using DS magic and Natsu with LFD couldn't even finish him off and it required Gray to use his new powers to kill him
The character is Jugram Haschwalth from Bleach You like it?:3

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She can't use macro on demons. That's why she couldn't control Mira due to demon particles in her body

Her Etherious form was pretty OP though, I'd say it was stronger than the Etherious forms of all the other Gates

 

[Tirl]

She can't use macro on demons. That's why she couldn't control Mira due to demon particles in her body

Sayla control Minerva (she is demon), Sayla control herself (demon?), nobody say that she cant control demon. She cant macro on Mira because Mira takeover her macro.