If you haven't noticed this arc is about enemies with hax powers,which can only be overcame with in certain matchups(similar to Sayla ,only Mira could win against her,because she wasn't affected by macro).
If it weren't for Ultear anyone from the FT-alliance would have lost against her,same goes for Brandmann,Jacob etc.
Bluenote was considered the second in command of GH and stronger than Ultear.And Zero was defeated by bit of energy Natsu took from Nirvana Arc Jellal.Not even GMG Jellal leave alone Alvarez Arc Jellal.And Natsu in his Base state alone was able to match Ajeel by casually destroying his Ant Pit.And his sand storm will be useless against Natsu as he can smell his way out.And one FDK Demolition Fist in FDKM is enough to defeat Ajeel.Same with Wahl.Wahl will lay down with his chasis destroyed by FDK spell.And Neinhart can't bring Mard Geer.It is more or less clear that he can't bring Mard Geer.By saying he can bring Mard Geer without any proof is not right.He could have brought him against Erza or Gray but couldn't.Same with Silver(though i don't know the reason)he could have brought him against Gray.
Natsu's mere aura evaporated the lake which itself is a mountain level feat.Not even his real attack even which is far more impressive than any Gildarts's feat.So currently Gildarts has only hype nothing else.So unless Gildarts shows more feats he should be classified as GOI level Mage.
Natsus magic aura is fire is its only obvious that he would evaporate the water. Gildarts doesn't have fire aura. And let's clear things up, Gildarts casually destroyed a mountain. Natsus magic is fire which is made for melting things. And he used his strongest attack to do it.
Natsus magic aura is fire is its only obvious that he would evaporate the water. Gildarts doesn't have fire aura. And let's clear things up, Gildarts casually destroyed a mountain. Natsus magic is fire which is made for melting things. And he used his strongest attack to do it.
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Ikr Natsu beat the 2nd weakest spriggan. Brandish bring the first.
Gildarts destroyed a mountain by ATTACKING. Natsu evaporated a lake simply by BEING THERE. Go back and read the chapter, the water was evaporating BEFORE he used his attack on Jacob. There's a big different between feats caused by attacks and feats caused by someone's aura. Generally the one caused by the aura is more impressive. And who cares if Natsu's magic is meant to melt things? You seem to forget that the same thing applies to Gildarts. His magic is meant to destroy things (things like, oh, I don't know, a mountain -_- ), so I could claim the exact same thing about him that you're trying to hold against Natsu.
Natsus magic aura is fire is its only obvious that he would evaporate the water. Gildarts doesn't have fire aura. And let's clear things up, Gildarts casually destroyed a mountain. Natsus magic is fire which is made for melting things. And he used his strongest attack to do it.
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Ikr Natsu beat the 2nd weakest spriggan. Brandish bring the first.
Brandish is far from the weakest S12 she could literally blow peoples brains out, give them cancer, make a pebble an Island, make simple scratches severe injuries, or burst peoples hearts all by a simple thought. The weakest S12 is Neinhart.
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Natsu is obviously stronger then the Gildarts we've seen BUT he ain't strong enough to one shot S12 tiers.
Gildarts destroyed a mountain by ATTACKING. Natsu evaporated a lake simply by BEING THERE. Go back and read the chapter, the water was evaporating BEFORE he used his attack on Jacob. There's a big different between feats caused by attacks and feats caused by someone's aura. Generally the one caused by the aura is more impressive. And who cares if Natsu's magic is meant to melt things? You seem to forget that the same thing applies to Gildarts. His magic is meant to destroy things (things like, oh, I don't know, a mountain -_- ), so I could claim the exact same thing about him that you're trying to hold against Natsu.
Lol ok. Natsu spells can be dematerialize do with Crash and Gildarts is faster than him and can use disassembly magic.
And when Natsu met Gildarts, he sent him flying. Natsu can't surpass Gildarts with a year of training.
And his magic is meant for destroying just like Gildarts, by Gildarts has more destructive capabilities.
And no, Natsu isn't city level. He evaporated water, I doubt Natsu could melt the city with his aura. Btw, Natsu strongest attack being roar of the fire dragon King isn't city level.
Brandish is far from the weakest S12 she could literally blow peoples brains out, give them cancer, make a pebble an Island, make simple scratches severe injuries, or burst peoples hearts all by a simple thought. The weakest S12 is Neinhart.
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Natsu is obviously stronger then the Gildarts we've seen BUT he ain't strong enough to one shot S12 tiers.
Brandish got dropped by Cana with one hand. That was enough to showcase her durability. Gildarts is faster and would throw out multiple mountain busting punches. Brandish would be decapitated.
Brandish got dropped by Cana with one hand. That was enough to showcase her durability. Gildarts is faster and would throw out multiple mountain busting punches. Brandish would be decapitated.
That is what is called a gagged moment. Brandish would think and Gildarts would be dead that's how much of a difference between her and him is. And she can kill him in numerous amounts of ways.
Lol ok. Natsu spells can be dematerialize do with Crash and Gildarts is faster than him and can use disassembly magic.
And when Natsu met Gildarts, he sent him flying. Natsu can't surpass Gildarts with a year of training.
And his magic is meant for destroying just like Gildarts, by Gildarts has more destructive capabilities.
And no, Natsu isn't city level. He evaporated water, I doubt Natsu could melt the city with his aura. Btw, Natsu strongest attack being roar of the fire dragon King isn't city level.
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Brandish got dropped by Cana with one hand. That was enough to showcase her durability. Gildarts is faster and would throw out multiple mountain busting punches. Brandish would be decapitated.
There's no reason Natsu wouldn't be able to land at least a few hits on Gildarts. If those hits are FDk spells, they should take out Gildarts in the same fashion they took out Jacob (who should have even greater magical power than Gildarts).
That is what is called a gagged moment. Brandish would think and Gildarts would be dead that's how much of a difference between her and him is. And she can kill him in numerous amounts of ways.
That is what is called a gagged moment. Brandish would think and Gildarts would be dead that's how much of a difference between her and him is. And she can kill him in numerous amounts of ways.
Lol ok. Natsu spells can be dematerialize do with Crash and Gildarts is faster than him and can use disassembly magic.
And when Natsu met Gildarts, he sent him flying. Natsu can't surpass Gildarts with a year of training.
And his magic is meant for destroying just like Gildarts, by Gildarts has more destructive capabilities.
And no, Natsu isn't city level. He evaporated water, I doubt Natsu could melt the city with his aura. Btw, Natsu strongest attack being roar of the fire dragon King isn't city level.
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Brandish got dropped by Cana with one hand. That was enough to showcase her durability. Gildarts is faster and would throw out multiple mountain busting punches. Brandish would be decapitated.
Lmao all I said was that Natsu's feat of evaporating the lake was more impressive than Gildarts destroying the mountain. I never claimed that Natsu's attacks were city level or that he's surpassed Gildarts. You're arguing against things that I never brought up to begin with.
That is what is called a gagged moment. Brandish would think and Gildarts would be dead that's how much of a difference between her and him is. And she can kill him in numerous amounts of ways.
That is what is called a gagged moment. Brandish would think and Gildarts would be dead that's how much of a difference between her and him is. And she can kill him in numerous amounts of ways.
Lmao all I said was that Natsu's feat of evaporating the lake was more impressive than Gildarts destroying the mountain. I never claimed that Natsu's attacks were city level or that he's surpassed Gildarts. You're arguing against things that I never brought up to begin with.
The GMG stadium can literally house a city. Natsu melted the GMG stadium, and his attacks can light it up. The War God Ikusa-Tsunagi is about 1/3 the size of the city he was standing beside. Natsu blew him up. If Natsu used the attack on the city itself, he would likely destroy a large portion of it. Natsu is city-level.
We've never seen Gildarts overpower an attack on the scale of an FDK spell with his crash. TThe attack that Gildarts blocked was a basic fire dragon's iron fist from a Tenrou-level Natsu.
It doesn't even compare to an LFD attack, let alone an FDK attack:
Bluenote can land hits on Gildarts, so there is absolutely no reason Natsu wouldn't be able to land hits against Gildarts. If those hits happen to be FDK spells, they would take out Gildarts.
I already debunked this but I guess you didn't read my post.
"Natsu melted the GMG with his magic aura"
Gildarts accidentally tripped and cracked an entire town. I'm sure Natsu was trying to show off.
"GMG can house a city"
That was magic, if in the other fights you can each end of the ring then it isn't that large.
"Bluenote was punching Gildarts"
BDKM needs time to charge, do you really think Gildarts would let Natsu charge up that long?
In that fight you showed Iron fist of the Lightning flame dragon. When Natsu met Gildarts in the forest, He used his strongest attack being a secret art. You can claim it's a silent chapter so you don't know. Well that's inccorect, every time Natsu uses that spell, his arms are in a special form.
Brandish got dropped by Cana with one hand. That was enough to showcase her durability. Gildarts is faster and would throw out multiple mountain busting punches. Brandish would be decapitated.
Natsu (or Brandish) would low diff Gildarts and that's a fact. Until he comes back and shows some new feats he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter.