Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

I already debunked this but I guess you didn't read my post.

"Natsu melted the GMG with his magic aura"

Gildarts accidentally tripped and cracked an entire town. I'm sure Natsu was trying to show off.

"GMG can house a city"

That was magic, if in the other fights you can each end of the ring then it isn't that large.

"Bluenote was punching Gildarts"

BDKM needs time to charge, do you really think Gildarts would let Natsu charge up that long?

In that fight you showed Iron fist of the Lightning flame dragon. When Natsu met Gildarts in the forest, He used his strongest attack being a secret art. You can claim it's a silent chapter so you don't know. Well that's inccorect, every time Natsu uses that spell, his arms are in a special form.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/11
And Natsu was sweating after that attaack but that was before TS.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/352/17

How have you debunked that Natsu melted the GMG stadium with his magical aura? Even if the city was made of magic, it didn't expand the arena in any way. The fact of the matter is that the GMG stadium can house a city. I showed you images of it doing exactly that.

Natsu can use demolition without entering the mode like he did against War God. FDK roar barely took any time to charge compared to Natsu's other attacks.

Spoiler: That attack looks more similar to this one

Spoiler: Natsu's secret art looks like this, which is the full attack from the image you showed

Spoiler: Here's another instance

 

[Boomburst]

I already debunked this but I guess you didn't read my post.

"Natsu melted the GMG with his magic aura"

Gildarts accidentally tripped and cracked an entire town. I'm sure Natsu was trying to show off.

"GMG can house a city"

That was magic, if in the other fights you can each end of the ring then it isn't that large.

"Bluenote was punching Gildarts"

BDKM needs time to charge, do you really think Gildarts would let Natsu charge up that long?

In that fight you showed Iron fist of the Lightning flame dragon. When Natsu met Gildarts in the forest, He used his strongest attack being a secret art. You can claim it's a silent chapter so you don't know. Well that's inccorect, every time Natsu uses that spell, his arms are in a special form.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/11
And Natsu was sweating after that attaack but that was before TS.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/352/17

I already debunked this but I guess you didn't read my post.

"Natsu melted the GMG with his magic aura"

Gildarts accidentally tripped and cracked an entire town. I'm sure Natsu was trying to show off.

"GMG can house a city"

That was magic, if in the other fights you can each end of the ring then it isn't that large.

"Bluenote was punching Gildarts"

BDKM needs time to charge, do you really think Gildarts would let Natsu charge up that long?

In that fight you showed Iron fist of the Lightning flame dragon. When Natsu met Gildarts in the forest, He used his strongest attack being a secret art. You can claim it's a silent chapter so you don't know. Well that's inccorect, every time Natsu uses that spell, his arms are in a special form.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/417/11
And Natsu was sweating after that attaack but that was before TS.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/352/17

Dude the two positions In the two scans you provided aren't even close to identical. Natsu's not even facing the same way in both scans, in one of them he's upside down.

Since when was it established that BDKM needed time to charge? Natsu went into it pretty easily against both Jacob and Zeref, and we saw no indication that Natsu was conserving energy for it or that he was charging it up.

 

[Woodenstool]

How have you debunked that Natsu melted the GMG stadium with his magical aura? Even if the city was made of magic, it didn't expand the arena in any way. The fact of the matter is that the GMG stadium can house a city. I showed you images of it doing exactly that.

Natsu can use demolition without entering the mode like he did against War God. FDK roar barely took any time to charge compared to Natsu's other attacks.

Spoiler: That attack looks more similar to this one

Spoiler: Natsu's secret art looks like this, which is the full attack from the image you showed

Spoiler: Here's another instance

What are you trying to hide? In the first pic Natsu used a regular fire arm. The first time Natsu used his secret art on Gildarts, it moved him. The pic you shown was before that.

It doesn't matter if the GMG can house a city. It was made from magic, similar to when Erza fought all those monsters. The castle looked small but inside was big. When Natsu came from the timeskip, there wasn't any magical city. Just the regular arena. Nice try bud.

And Natsu charged up that attack, Gildarts is faster than Natsu and wouldn't allow and opportunity like that.

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Dude the two positions In the two scans you provided aren't even close to identical. Natsu's not even facing the same way in both scans, in one of them he's upside down.

Since when was it established that BDKM needed time to charge? Natsu went into it pretty easily against both Jacob and Zeref, and we saw no indication that Natsu was conserving energy for it or that he was charging it up.

Are you implying they Natsu can enter BDKM whenever he wants? ... Oops typo, I meant demo fist needs time to charge.

 

[Axiomus]

What are you trying to hide? In the first pic Natsu used a regular fire arm. The first time Natsu used his secret art on Gildarts, it moved him. The pic you shown was before that.

It doesn't matter if the GMG can house a city. It was made from magic, similar to when Erza fought all those monsters. The castle looked small but inside was big. When Natsu came from the timeskip, there wasn't any magical city. Just the regular arena. Nice try bud.

And Natsu charged up that attack, Gildarts is faster than Natsu and wouldn't allow and opportunity like that.

I'm not hiding anything. It took a secret art for Natsu to move Gildarts the first time they fought on Tenrou. But it was never stated to be a secret art the second time. Even if I grant you the silent chapter treatment, you still have to prove it looks like one. I'm pointing out how the attack you showed resembled a normal attack rather than a secret art.

Spoiler: The castle didn't look small.

And the fact that the stadium can house a castle with room to spare should tell you it would house a city.

 

[Woodenstool]

You debunked jack squat this is all you said to me which is Randi vs Gildarts.

Gag moments don't count towards anything.

Natsu (or Brandish) would low diff Gildarts and that's a fact. Until he comes back and shows some new feats he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter.

Brandish hasn't shown speed feats which I doubt she has. Gildarts would blitz the spriggan 12. End of story.

 

[Boomburst]

What are you trying to hide? In the first pic Natsu used a regular fire arm. The first time Natsu used his secret art on Gildarts, it moved him. The pic you shown was before that.

It doesn't matter if the GMG can house a city. It was made from magic, similar to when Erza fought all those monsters. The castle looked small but inside was big. When Natsu came from the timeskip, there wasn't any magical city. Just the regular arena. Nice try bud.

And Natsu charged up that attack, Gildarts is faster than Natsu and wouldn't allow and opportunity like that.

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Are you implying they Natsu can enter BDKM whenever he wants? ... Oops typo, I meant demo fist needs time to charge.

Yes, I'm saying that Natsu can enter BDKM whenever he wants. It's the same as LFDM, of Gajeel's ISDM, or even Wendy, Rogue, and Sting's DF. We have no reason to believe otherwise.

Every time Natsu has used Demo Fist he's already been fighting for a while beforehand, so I don't see how it's an attack where he needs to charge up.

 

[Axiomus]

Yes. Natsu can enter FDK mode whenever he wants. Why wouldn't he?

 

[Woodenstool]

I'm not hiding anything. You said that attack was a secret art. I'm telling you that doesn't look like one. Yes, it took a secret art for Natsu to move Gildarts the first time they sparred. But it was never stated to be a secret art the second time. Even if I grant you the silent chapter treatment, you still have to prove it looks like one.

Spoiler: The castle didn't look small. It looks to be as large as Cardia Cathedral

And the fact that the stadium can house a castle with room to spare should tell you it would house a city.

Quit using that logic to back up your statements. That doesn't apply to Natsu because when he came back there wasn't any magical buildings.

And before the timeskip, Gildarts punched Natsu into the skip like nothing. He hasn't surpassed gildarts in a year.

 

[Axiomus]

Quit using that logic to back up your statements. That doesn't apply to Natsu because when he came back there wasn't any magical buildings.

And before the timeskip, Gildarts punched Natsu into the skip like nothing. He hasn't surpassed gildarts in a year.

Who cares if the buildings were made out of magic? That doesn't change it's size. The GMG stadium is larger than the city it created.

 

[Jko]

Brandish hasn't shown speed feats which I doubt she has. Gildarts would blitz the spriggan 12. End of story.

Gild would get stomped by the 12. And yeah Brandish has shown speed feats...

Spoiler

Randi thinks and kills Gildarts.

 

[Xzilerate]

Gildarts is overrated to an insane degree on every FT forum I've been to. The fact that people think he still ranks among the most powerful mages in the series shows that. I've even seen people suggest he should take on August. Seriously? He certainly was up there in terms of power before the 1 year time-skip, but he's not anymore. That time-skip had a massive power inflation. At this point he's weaker than people like Laxus, Jellal, Natsu, and maybe even Erza. All of the Spriggan 12 would stomp him as well.

Logically Gildarts shouldn't grow anymore powerful than what he was in previous arcs as he's in his mid 40s, but knowing Mashima he won't have Gildarts come back being weak as shit. He'll likely come back a power house despite the lack of logic behind it. But this doesn't change the fact that the Gildarts from previous arcs is weak relatively speaking at this point.

 

[Woodenstool]

Gildarts is overrated to an insane degree on every FT forum I've been to. The fact that people think he still ranks among the most powerful mages in the series shows that. I've even seen people suggest he should take on August. Seriously? He certainly was up there in terms of power before the 1 year time-skip, but he's not anymore. That time-skip had a massive power inflation. At this point he's weaker than people like Laxus, Jellal, Natsu, and maybe even Erza. All of the Spriggan 12 would stomp him as well.

Logically Gildarts shouldn't grow anymore powerful than what he was in previous arcs as he's in his mid 40s, but knowing Mashima he won't have Gildarts come back being weak as shit. He'll likely come back a power house despite the lack of logic behind it. But this doesn't change the fact that the Gildarts from previous arcs is weak relatively speaking at this point.

Read my firs post on this thread.

And are you really bringing age into this? Hades is 100 years old and so is August. Please, Gildarts is stronger than all of the FT members.

 

[Axiomus]

Also, concerning the evaporation of the lake. The lake that Natsu evaporated was probably Lake Scilliora. It's the only lake mentioned by name, and it happens to be the closest lake to the Fairy Tail guild, being directly north of it. It's the same lake that Phantom Lord used to approach Fairy Tail with their moving guild.

Spoiler: Map of Magnolia

Spoiler: Right hand side = North. You can see where the lake is

Spoiler: Warren's GPS actually shows us how big the lake is compared to Magnolia

 

[Woodenstool]

Who cares if the buildings were made out of magic? That doesn't change it's size. The GMG stadium is larger than the city it created.

The GMG is not as big as a city! It was magic, get over it already. Natsu isn't surpass Gildarts in no time.

 

[Xzilerate]

Read my firs post on this thread.

And are you really bringing age into this? Hades is 100 years old and so is August. Please, Gildarts is stronger than all of the FT members.

I don't read posts from posters I don't take seriously. Your posts are void of any logic for the most part and mostly constitute wanking Gildarts to levels he's not anywhere close to.

 

[Axiomus]

The GMG is not as big as a city! It was magic, get over it already. Natsu isn't surpass Gildarts in no time.

It's not as big as a city. It's larger.

Spoiler

[/spoiiler]

 

[Woodenstool]

It's not as big as a city. It's larger.

Spoiler

[/spoiiler]

That was magic.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/418/21

In pic you can the end of the rings. It's not as big as a city.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/418/23

Did you even watch the anime ep?

 

[Axiomus]

That was magic for f**** sake. You're getting really annoying.
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/418/21

In pic you can the end of the rings. It's not as big as a city.

Again, why does being magic change any of this?
How does being able to see the entrance prove it's not as large as a city?

I literally showed you a picture of a city being created inside the GMG stadium. You're constantly repeating "it's magic!" and showing me pictures of the entrance as if it means something.

 

[Woodenstool]

I don't read posts from posters I don't take seriously. Your posts are void of any logic for the most part and mostly constitute wanking Gildarts to levels he's not anywhere close to.

I don't even like Gildarts, but I'm stating facts that you're in denial.

If Gildarts can destroy a mountain with crash, he can sure as hell destroys Natsu spells with crash.

If you watched KoTsh which is cannon, then you know Gildarts was several feet away from Natsu and attacking before he even noticed.

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Again, why does being magic change any of this?
How does being able to see the entrance prove it's not as large as a city?

I literally showed you a picture of a city being created inside the GMG stadium. You're constantly repeating "it's magic!" and showing me pictures of the entrance as if it means something.

The walls around the arena are larger than the actual city. That is a magical city made for the tournament . Natsu just came charging in. and yes it's a city, a small magical city. Are you saying sting was a city buster because he leveled the ground of the GMG.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/295/10

 

[Axiomus]

The walls around the arena are larger than the actual city. That is a magical city made for the tournament . Natsu just came charging in. and yes it's a city, a small magical city. Are you saying sting was a city buster because he leveled the ground of the GMG.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/295/10

Spoiler: This was the size of the hole Sting put into the GMG stadium

His roar wouldn't envelop the whole city, but it would probably take out a string of houses similar to the way Natsu's LFD Iron Strike did when he fought Jackal. I agree that the city the GMG wouldn't be huge. It wouldn't be as large as the capital city of Crocus. In fact, it would be a fraction of it because you can you can probably fit multiple of Magnolias in Crocus.

Spoiler: But the area should be comparable to the village Gildarts broke

And here's why we can be confident why the GMG stadium can house a city. Because when Sting broke the floor and got to the lower levels, the characters ended up...

Spoiler: ....in the ruins of another city