Natsu is fast? When he used Igneels flames against Zeref, he was nearly at Gildarts speed at KoTsh.
Natsu's speed against Zeref was relative to him in Base, just using Igneel's magic power. The magic power isn't going to make him any faster, its just going to make his attacks stronger, so I'm not getting your point here.
It isn't just disparate, it's also an objectively nonsensical argumention to embed in this thread.
Jellal was blitzing Natsu in meteor until he are Etherion. Which is the reason he beat him.
Unless Jellal can draw seals that are quite a distance away from him then I don't really get what you mean by this, against Neinhart there weren't any seals in the sky, he just said the incantation and the spell activated. I'm not opposed to Jellal being able to draw his seals from a distance, in fact that makes more sense, the seals that appeared (in the OS fight) before he said the incantation for Grand Chariot were actually the seals for Solid Seal (hence why the OS didn't move), and then like in the Neinhart battle, he said the incantation so the spell activated.
I've never said Base Natsu would outspeed Jellal's meteor, I've only said Dragon Force Natsu could, and regardless of what happened in the fight, Natsu still outsped Jellal in the ToH and thats a fact.
I don't particularly see the need to be so specific with the staff thing,so really there's no need to make it look like Jellal carrying the staffs is disallowed...
Sure, he was burnt, but Natsu wasn't actually damaged that badly by the attack. He still resists his own element (excluding God Slayer flames), and there's no evidence he wouldn't resist them so I don't see why that is the case. Totamaru directed Natsu's actual punches into his face, hence why there was a mark left more from the physical force rather than the flames. Silver was damaged a lot by his ice? No, he still said Ice had no effect on him, and at the end of the day he only got beaten by a steel ball. He wasn't that phased by the ice, so your point there is moot. And Zancrow used his own flames, not Natsu's, to attack Natsu so that point there is inaccurate as well.
Does Jellal usually carrying around the staffs? Because that is required to use the magic. It's not so much whether or not it's restricted. It's just that Mystogan's magic isn't normally part of Jellal's power-set.
No,you're missing my point...I've not said that Natsu can't resist his own element...I'm saying his own magic (Fire Dragon Slaying Magic) will affect him if it touches him..
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Not to get off-topic with this, but Chapter 391, Gray channel's Silver's ice and uses it against him, and on the last page of that Chapter Silver comes out of the attack saying "Its true I can't eat my own magic, but still, Ice doesn't work against me.." implying the ice did next to nothing to him. Earlier in that chapter, Gray did some damage to him by firing debris at him. The only other time Gray injured silver was in 392 when he used the steel ball. Point is, Silver was not effected by his ice, thus this part of your point is moot.
I doubt Mirror Water is going to be able to bend Natsu's fist back towards himself. Furthermore, there would be no physical component in a roar. Natsu would just engulf himself in fire, and tank it.
From what we've seent he speed of DF Natsu with his legs on fire as a propeller is greater than meteor when Natsu is traveling straight. That's all we've seen. Again, Jellal's smart, just like with basketball, you wait for the opening to cast your shot.
What are you talking about? lmao that's the first time we see FDKM. He's not in base.
First off I said he could mirror water it away. I never said he'd fire it back to Natsu. It's fine if Natsu has resistence. Why? Cause that's not going to help him defeat Jellal, anyway lol. Neither side will have much damage, as a result.
Natsu used Zancrow's fire to power-up because Zancrow was stronger than him, and Natsu had no way of beating him otherwise. Same with Gajeel and Shadow-Rogue. Gray's body wasn't resistant to damage by ice in the first place, as he wasn't a slayer then. Again, if Silver can tank his own ice, then why can't Natsu tank his own fire? Especially since Natsu can tank an attack from a mage like August.
I...I think I need a moment here...