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Did Gray have resistance to curses? I know there was the thing with momento mori, but I was always under the impression that Gray simply tanked that spell because his demonized form gave him more durability. Technically speaking, not all dragons are elemental either. Like Zilconis is the jade dragon, but he doesn't really use jade in any way.
Yeah it was his DeS magic that allowed him to resist the Curse. Zilconis stated that was just a secondary magic he learned to embarrass humans and to take off their clothes for when eats them. I think it hinted that the jade necklace Hisui gave to Arcadios (it protected him from the lava) was either apart or made from Zilconis.
 

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Wendy enchants can double stats so calling it a barrier is ridiculous. Also Sherria like every slayer has resistance to god attacks and her TO power up probably put her low S12 at least so an amp in stats would be significant.


Show me ever that Wendy enchants barriers then. Oh, wait you have zero feats to back up your claims. Also how tf do enchant a barrier up? Wendy isn't a high enchanter either so don't try to bring up Irene. You are wrong and the manga keeps proving you wrong so deal with it. Wendy enchants stats and it was called her Enchantment so again there was never a barrier there. Like @Jean Grey said why would Wendy put a barrier around herself if she was trying to protect Sherria?
There's literally a time skip when Wendy had learnt new thing and you're asking me to bring up her using it in the past :lmao Do you even know what an echamant is? Where has it been stated enchamants can't make barriers, you say don't bring up Irene but once again when had it been said only high enchamanters can do that? If there wasn't a barrier WHAT IS THAT INFRONT OF HER AND CHELIA? And why would she put a barrier up Infront of herself? Both Dimaria and Chelia are literally fighting Infront of her why shouldn't she protect herself from a potential blast? The manga hasn't proved me wrong but your baseless assumption have fucked you over. Enchanting Chelia's durability like you claim wouldn't put a barrier up Infront of both of them.
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Did Gray have resistance to curses? I know there was the thing with momento mori, but I was always under the impression that Gray simply tanked that spell because his demonized form gave him more durability. Technically speaking, not all dragons are elemental either. Like Zilconis is the jade dragon, but he doesn't really use jade in any way.
Slayers don't resist attacks from the thing they're slaying Gray is literally the only exception.
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Ughhh... third time I have to post it in this thread...

By @Jko (page 50 of this thread):

"It was translated to be her Limit Release form which gives her a 4000 boost in all her stats. Silver gets a 2000 boost when he puts his feelings into it and Kyouka gets a 2500 boost when she use her Strengthen. Franmelth was also translated to get a 2000 boost when he uses his Revolution. Those 4 were the only ones that had boost in the source's translation of them.

So there boosted stats are

Franmelth:
Atk: 2600
Def: 2600
Spd: 2500
Curse: 3000

Silver:
Atk: 5200
Def: 4800
Spd: 4000
Curse: 4600

Seilah:
Atk: 5200
Def: 5000
Spd: 4800
Curse: 6000

Kyouka:
Atk: 5200
Def: 5000
Spd: 5500
Curse: 5200"

So, Seilah and Kyouka are pretty much equals
Source because they've only ever released the base stats.
 

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There's literally a time skip when Wendy had learnt new thing and you're asking me to bring up her using it in the past :lmao Do you even know what an echamant is? Where has it been stated enchamants can't make barriers, you say don't bring up Irene but once again when had it been said only high enchamanters can do that? If there wasn't a barrier WHAT IS THAT INFRONT OF HER AND CHELIA? And why would she put a barrier up Infront of herself? Both Dimaria and Chelia are literally fighting Infront of her why shouldn't she protect herself from a potential blast? The manga hasn't proved me wrong but your baseless assumption have fucked you over. Enchanting Chelia's durability like you claim wouldn't put a barrier up Infront of both of them.
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Slayers don't resist attacks from the thing they're slaying Gray is literally the only exception.
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Source because they've only ever released the base stats.
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Wendy is protecting herself from a palm thrust that's nowhere near her and was aimed at Sherria :facepalm. Why would she call it an enchantment when it's a barrier? The manga is fact and the spell Wendy used was her enchantment which the manga has shown countless times to amp stats. I have feats and statements to support my claims while you have nothing and you're trying to say I'm making baseless assumptions... :rofl. Just face the facts. Inb4 Wendy can make shadow clones with her enchantment bcs she learned new things over the year.
 
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We won't agree, but I'm giving explanation as to why Gajeel got out of third seal and would have with the second. In simplest terms he was helped before he could act. I don't see how this is a plot hole. It all happened in one fight. It's not hard to get a story that makes sense in one fight. Even if Gajeel was helped with the third seal instead of the second that does not make it conclusive that he'd be killed. Being helped when in an attack does not mean they would have died. That's why you could see Gajeel struggling in both seals. What you said would make more sense if you saw him struggling with only the second seal. But he was visibly struggling more with the third seal screaming aa several times with his mouth wide open. Compare that to a reaction where he feels crowded and all he says is "You damn pile of bones!" That's why no matter how you look at it he had more difficulty with the third seal, but in the next panel he goes to rescue Levy. Whereas with the second seal he was surrounded by skulls, then in the next panel Levy saves him. Check if you believe me. I don't need to convince you. I'll just prove you wrong with more reasoning and logic. If it made no sense and was a plot hole this manga would suck. Assuming right away that Gajeel would have died is a little presumptuous to begin with. Nothing more. If you can prove me wrong I won't even fight back. I'd just agree.
This is a circular argument, both of us have stated what we think happened and neither of us are budging from our stances, what's the point in continuing this? If you want my honest opinion you got it in my last point, I admitted that both of us have raised good points but at the same time I think both stances are respectable. While I'll give it one last crack I'll stop after this as (like I mentioned above) both of us are sticking to our guns.

So Gajeel would just swim out of the Second Seal? Nothing else would've happened if Levy hadn't interfered? Bradman could have used one of the 9DG curses there and dealt more damage but because Levy disrupted the Second Seal he didn't get the chance. Looking at Gajeel in the panel, he doesn't look like he's going anywhere, he's being swallowed by the Second Seal, had there been any sort of movement in that panel I would agree and say that he would've escaped but there wasn't, he was simply caught there. Also, when the Second Seal was activated in the page before it sent Gajeel flying with him visibly screaming and then into the sea of skulls that he couldn't move in, similar to what Over Skelter did, only unlike the Second Seal (which he could hardly move in) Over Skelter was also stealing his life force. Hell, Bradman wasn't even his Sensation or Enhancement curse and he was still trashing him. BTW I think I mis-worded my point about the Second Seal, I meant that had Levy not freed him he likely would have been killed as he was immobilized/swallowed by the Second Seal.

Also that fight did have quite a few plot holes in it, such as:
  • How did Levy survive all Three Seals? (People were getting one shot by the First Seal, Gajeel didn't due to iron lungs, but Levy?)
  • If Gajeel was temporarily immobilized by the Second Seal then how did he escape Over Skelter that quickly?
  • If Bradman was going all out why didn't he use Kyoka's curses?
Seriously, if Base Gajeel = Bradman then why was Bradman not on the receiving end of the attacks whilst Gajeel was fighting for his life?

Again, I don't mean to be rude or run away from this but it's pointless arguing when it's clear we view this differently.

Edit: I'm heading off, I'll reply tomorrow.
 

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This is a circular argument, both of us have stated what we think happened and neither of us are budging from our stances, what's the point in continuing this? If you want my honest opinion you got it in my last point, I admitted that both of us have raised good points but at the same time I think both stances are respectable. While I'll give it one last crack I'll stop after this as (like I mentioned above) both of us are sticking to our guns.

So Gajeel would just swim out of the Second Seal? Nothing else would've happened if Levy hadn't interfered? Bradman could have used one of the 9DG curses there and dealt more damage but because Levy disrupted the Second Seal he didn't get the chance. Looking at Gajeel in the panel, he doesn't look like he's going anywhere, he's being swallowed by the Second Seal, had there been any sort of movement in that panel I would agree and say that he would've escaped but there wasn't, he was simply caught there. Also, when the Second Seal was activated in the page before it sent Gajeel flying with him visibly screaming and then into the sea of skulls that he couldn't move in, similar to what Over Skelter did, only unlike the Second Seal (which he could hardly move in) Over Skelter was also stealing his life force. Hell, Bradman wasn't even his Sensation or Enhancement curse and he was still trashing him. BTW I think I mis-worded my point about the Second Seal, I meant that had Levy not freed him he likely would have been killed as he was immobilized/swallowed by the Second Seal.

Also that fight did have quite a few plot holes in it, such as:
  • How did Levy survive all Three Seals? (People were getting one shot by the First Seal, Gajeel didn't due to iron lungs, but Levy?)
  • If Gajeel was temporarily immobilized by the Second Seal then how did he escape Over Skelter that quickly?
  • If Bradman was going all out why didn't he use Kyoka's curses?
Seriously, if Base Gajeel = Bradman then why was Bradman not on the receiving end of the attacks whilst Gajeel was fighting for his life?

Again, I don't mean to be rude or run away from this but it's pointless arguing when it's clear we view this differently.

Edit: I'm heading off, I'll reply tomorrow.
Bradman has not shown to be able to use all nine curses in one attack. I said he launched one after another as if it was one long attack. How would you know Gajeel was helpless from the second seal? He gets knocked into the skulls on one panel and is buried under skulls the next. Where does it show him completely helpless? He looked to be in deeper shit in over skelter. Pictures don't lie. If look again and see over skelter, you'd see more panels of Gajeel in bigger trouble with skulls with bodies wrapping around Gajeel's legs and neck. In the next panel he is out and rescuing Levy.

How did Levy survive the seals? Ask yourself this, did any MAIN member of Sabertooth or Pegasus die from Bradman's particles? No. Fodder guild members died instantly from it. How did Levy last that long? She's not fodder like the bums who died. She may not be the strongest, but not as weak as those nobodies first time seen that died. The mask might have blocked her from inhaling particles, but skin can absorb them too. Going through skin does not take effect as fast as inhaling it.

How did Gajeel escape third seal that quickly? He was stuck at first right after the spell was cast. Not any different from how he was swamped with skulls from the second seal. How does one panel give you the idea that he was helpless? Look how much more trouble he was with over skelter and how much more panels he had showing how much more difficult it was for him. I'm sorry but one panel of him in skulls and the next Levy jumps in, does not prove anything on your end. If you wanted to see helplessness look at Gajeel when he was grabbed by Bradman and was surely about to die with Bradman. That's the look and fear of helplessness. Falling into skulls and calling them a pile of bones with the look on his face did not portray death was at his doorstep.

-Bradman was going all out as he transformed into his final form. Why didn't he use Kyoka's curse? Because he was trying to first blow up and slice Gajeel with every attack first. Then he went straight to over skelter. He was dishing out many attacks to beat the crap out of Gajeel, which did not work.

-This is not pointless. You haven't given any real reasoning that could counter the many more reasons I gave. It's logical to see that Gajeel was in trouble in one panel with the second seal. One panel only. That does not prove he was going to die without help. That's pure guessing, speculation. It just shows that he was helped. And if there was any question as to if he could have escaped the second seal, the answer was there when he actually got out of the third seal even though there were more panels of him in trouble during over skelter. If it was over skelter that he was saved from that would be more believable that he might have died because he was in deeper trouble there.

-Stick with the story and what is actually being portrayed. Not how you want to guess it would be if this or that happened. Ask yourself "Would he have died? Is that one panel enough to prove it? Let me see both sides of the coin. Would Gajeel have escaped the second seal? He gets trapped in the third seal and gets out saving Levy in the process so there should be no doubt the second seal wouldn't have been an issue. Levy just wanted to help." That's the logical way of thinking. Simply thinking "He fell into the skulls in one panel means death for sure," is a narrow way of thinking. Stay open to the facts regardless of how you wanted it to go or which character you like or dislike more. I gave you facts not guesses or wishful thinking. I was kind enough to not tell you you were wrong from the start, but that is the way that fight went. Believe it or not that's the way it is. The sky is blue and I can't change that. Facts. Having the feat of dealing with third seal should have answered those questioning if he'd have been able to do the same with a similar but lesser spell. It's not Gajeel's fault that Levy wanted to help. That does not mean he would have died. That's pure guessing. And if Levy did save his life, she'd have at least said she got there in the nick of time.
 

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Your post consisted of
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Wendy is protecting herself from a palm thrust that's nowhere near her and was aimed at Sherria :facepalm. Why would she call it an enchantment when it's a barrier? The manga is fact and the spell Wendy used was her enchantment which the manga has shown countless times to amp stats. I have feats and statements to support my claims while you have nothing and you're trying to say I'm making baseless assumptions... :rofl. Just face the facts. Inb4 Wendy can make shadow clones with her enchantment bcs she learned new things over the year.
No feats? How am I supposed to so former feats a something new? A palm thrust nowhere near her? THEY ARE LITERALLY FIGHTING A COUPLE OF METERS IN FRONT OF HER AND THAT PALM THRUST JUST RELEASE A BLAST OF MAGICAL ENERGY. So keep on ignoring all my post. You ignored the fact it's something new , you tried to say Wendy didn't make a barrier then where did it comes from, you also failed the answer that why would enhancing Chelia durability form a barrier infront of the both of them. Keep crying and not acting addressing the points that's all your good for.
 

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No feats? How am I supposed to so former feats a something new? A palm thrust nowhere near her? THEY ARE LITERALLY FIGHTING A COUPLE OF METERS IN FRONT OF HER AND THAT PALM THRUST JUST RELEASE A BLAST OF MAGICAL ENERGY. So keep on ignoring all my post. You ignored the fact it's something new , you tried to say Wendy didn't make a barrier then where did it comes from, you also failed the answer that why would enhancing Chelia durability form a barrier infront of the both of them. Keep crying and not acting addressing the points that's all your good for.
Dude you have no evidence that Wendy can produce barriers so there's no point in arguing something that clearly isn't true. Seriously it's pretty darn simp that she's enchanting Sherria's stats when she literally calls out her enchantment like dude just read the dang panel. If it was barrier Hiro would've called it a barrier. That attack was short range and nowhere to hitting Wendy and you can clearly see when Sherria actually gets hit by DiMaria there was no barrier in front of her. I've already shown that she has weird stuff in front her when she does her enchantments too. Until you have actually have proof of Wendy suddenly getting barriers then your claims are unjustified simple as that.
 

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Dude you have no evidence that Wendy can produce barriers so there's no point in arguing something that clearly isn't true. Seriously it's pretty darn simp that she's enchanting Sherria's stats when she literally calls out her enchantment like dude just read the dang panel. If it was barrier Hiro would've called it a barrier. That attack was short range and nowhere to hitting Wendy and you can clearly see when Sherria actually gets hit by DiMaria there was no barrier in front of her. I've already shown that she has weird stuff in front her when she does her enchantments too. Until you have actually have proof of Wendy suddenly getting barriers then your claims are unjustified simple as that.
I have no evidence? WENDY HERSELF DID IT ON PANEL. If Wendy didn't tell me who did..........Again you're acting like an enchantment can only supplement physical stats, your whole argument is literally based on that. Again you're assuming it was a short range attacks, it only was short range because the burnt of the attack was taken in by the barrier. Chelia gets hit and there's no barrier infront of her? I literally posted earlier bits of the barrier getting blown back from in front of Chelia but you obviously didn't see it:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/476/13

Or do I have to go and circle out the bits of barrier in paint for you?
 
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I have no evidence? WENDY HERSELF DID IT ON PANEL. If Wendy didn't tell me who did..........Again you're acting like an enchantment can only supplement physical stats, your whole argument is literally based on that. Again you're assuming it was a short range attacks, it only was short range because the burnt of the attack was taken in by the barrier. Chelia gets hit and there's no barrier infront of her? I literally posted earlier bits of the barrier getting blown back from in front of Chelia but you obviously didn't see it:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/476/13

Or do I have to go and circle out the bits of barrier in paint for you?
Yeah and she clearly said enchantment and there is a clear difference between enchantments and barriers. Wendy can only enhance stats with her enchantments and she has never done anything else with it. When DiMaria does the actual attack there is clearly nothing in front of Sherria. I'm done commenting back to you bcs you're clearly ignoring facts. Talk to me when you have actual feats to back up your claims.
 
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Yeah and she clearly said enchantment and there is a clear difference between enchantments and barriers. Wendy can only enhance stats with her enchantments and she has never done anything else with it. When DiMaria does the actual attack there is clearly nothing in front of Sherria. I'm done commenting back to you bcs you're clearly ignoring facts. Talk to me when you have actual feats to back up your claims.
No there isn't, where was it said enchantments can't make barriers. Again the enchantments themselves are broad and you're assuming they can't make barriers. I literally show you the panel of the barrier getting blown back afterwards, but yet you claim there's nothing there? What were those bits flying back then? Did the barrier form around Chelia after she got hit and broke for no reason :lmao


I'm not ignoring facts


You ignored me when I asked you who made that barrier, you also ignored why would boosting her durability form a barrier and if Wendy didn't make it who did.
 
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I have to agree with both of you @Jko and @Crimson Ice. Even though I don't know japanese and I can't tell what's actually said, whether barrier, enchantment or another thing, the official translation does say "enchantment". So it is factually an enchantment. But the sape is that of a barrier, it's rather clear. Wendy convers herself, probably to avoid the attack in case it reaches her, and she also covers Chelia, whose barrier is automatically destroyed and takes part of the attack.

Mangastream are likely professional translators too so the fact they are not official 'shouldn't' downplay their translations. They had a reason to say "barrier" there, of that I'm sure. The raw either says something about a barrier, or they chose to use barrier instead of enchantment because a defense boost enchantment with shape of a barrier is essentially a barrier.
 

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@Firepower I'm going to state why I think Bradman > Gajeel:
  • Bradman is intangible.
  • Bradman has a variety of hax curses he can use.
  • Bradman was dominating the fight, he was on the offensive constantly. (He literally pitied Gajeel when he tried to counter-attack)
  • Bradman could have used the Sensation curse to increase Gajeel's pain but didn't.
  • He also could have used the Enhancement curse to steadily become stronger but didn't.
  • Without Levy, Torafuzar's poison water would have remained, limiting his movement.
  • Gajeel HAD to enter Dragon Force to beat him.
Please don't respond so aggressively as you did in your last post, I've been nothing but fair in my posts, I don't need you saying how you were "kind" to me, we're in a discussion and while not much irritates me, condescension does. I'll reply to your reply but after that I'm not debating this any more, it's clear we don't see eye to eye on this and I'd like to end this on a decent note.
 

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I still don't see why this makes any difference at all if Wendy's barrier was a barrier or simply an enhancement to Chelia's durability. The original point was whether or not Dimaria would slay a dragon. The argument was that even if she could age seal her targets, her all out attacks can still be neutralized by Wendy's enchantment. Anybody with stronger durability than that enchantment, whether its a barrier or not, would be able to tank the attack.
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Yeah it was his DeS magic that allowed him to resist the Curse. Zilconis stated that was just a secondary magic he learned to embarrass humans and to take off their clothes for when eats them. I think it hinted that the jade necklace Hisui gave to Arcadios (it protected him from the lava) was either apart or made from Zilconis.
Zirconis didn't say that it was a secondary magic. Wendy questioned whether or not what Zirconis used was magic, and Zirconis said yes and that all dragons can use magic. Zirconis didn't even call himself the jade dragon until Hisui pointed out the fact that his skin color was the color of jade. I don't think the necklace had much to do with Zirconis tbh, and this probably falls into the realm of speculation.
 

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I have to agree with both of you @Jko and @Crimson Ice. Even though I don't know japanese and I can't tell what's actually said, whether barrier, enchantment or another thing, the official translation does say "enchantment". So it is factually an enchantment. But the sape is that of a barrier, it's rather clear. Wendy convers herself, probably to avoid the attack in case it reaches her, and she also covers Chelia, whose barrier is automatically destroyed and takes part of the attack.

Mangastream are likely professional translators too so the fact they are not official 'shouldn't' downplay their translations. They had a reason to say "barrier" there, of that I'm sure. The raw either says something about a barrier, or they chose to use barrier instead of enchantment because a defense boost enchantment with shape of a barrier is essentially a barrier.
Mangapanda is the one who translated it as "barrier" and seeing as there was a entire missing page and botched grammar I'm guess they half-assed the chapter like usual. Mangastream actually supports the official translation.


You can also see when Dimaria does the attack there is un fact no barrier presented in front of her. The attack was aimed at Sherria and it was nowhere near Wendy so there would be no point in putting up a barrier. You can see from both these pages that there was truly no barrier in front of Wendy.
It was just a way to add emphasis on the enchantment being used not that Wendy can produce barriers.
 

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I still don't see why this makes any difference at all if Wendy's barrier was a barrier or simply an enhancement to Chelia's durability. The original point was whether or not Dimaria would slay a dragon. The argument was that even if she could age seal her targets, her all out attacks can still be neutralized by Wendy's enchantment. Anybody with stronger durability than that enchantment, whether its a barrier or not, would be able to tank the attack.
You do know Sherria was in her prime that means her stats got a huge upgrade. She was at least low tier, most likely mid tier, S12 in stats for pushing back DiMaria and deflecting her laser beam so enchanting Sherria with a boosted defense is huge. It wasn't like Wendy enchanted Romeo to tank it.

Zirconis didn't say that it was a secondary magic. Wendy questioned whether or not what Zirconis used was magic, and Zirconis said yes and that all dragons can use magic. Zirconis didn't even call himself the jade dragon until Hisui pointed out the fact that his skin color was the color of jade. I don't think the necklace had much to do with Zirconis tbh, and this probably falls into the realm of speculation.
I highly doubt stripping magic was his main magic. How would Zilconis hurt any dragon if his roar was just stripping.
 

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You do know Sherria was in her prime that means her stats got a huge upgrade. She was at least low tier, most likely mid tier, S12 in stats for pushing back DiMaria and deflecting her laser beam so enchanting Sherria with a boosted defense is huge. It wasn't like Wendy enchanted Romeo to tank it.


I highly doubt stripping magic was his main magic. How would Zilconis hurt any dragon if his roar was just stripping.
Who said Zirconis's magic was able to hurt other dragons? Not every dragon has to have an offensive magic. Besides, pure physical strength would probably be sufficient, like how Acno ripped a hole in Igneel.
 

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You do know Sherria was in her prime that means her stats got a huge upgrade. She was at least low tier, most likely mid tier, S12 in stats for pushing back DiMaria and deflecting her laser beam so enchanting Sherria with a boosted defense is huge. It wasn't like Wendy enchanted Romeo to tank it.
Even if we were to assume it wasn't a barrier, its still not that impressive. Especially when she took little to no damage from the attack.

I highly doubt stripping magic was his main magic. How would Zilconis hurt any dragon if his roar was just stripping.
A dragons strongest asset is their physical stats. The occasional odd one in Atlas Flame who has flame body/pseudo intangibility as his biggest asset.
 

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Even if we were to assume it wasn't a barrier, its still not that impressive. Especially when she took little to no damage from the attack.



A dragons strongest asset is their physical stats. The occasional odd one in Atlas Flame who has flame body/pseudo intangibility as his biggest asset.
Sherria would have been dead/KO from that attack if Wendy didn't enchant her stats so it is impressive. Sherria was low-mid S12 tier in stats and had GS advantage yet was still gonna lose if she didn't have Wendy as support.

A dragon's strongest asset is not their physical stats or they wouldn't even bother mastering their element and creating moves and secret arts.

Who said Zirconis's magic was able to hurt other dragons? Not every dragon has to have an offensive magic. Besides, pure physical strength would probably be sufficient, like how Acno ripped a hole in Igneel.
Dragon have magic to hurt other Dragons which is how DS magic was passed on to humans. Pretty sure a full powered roar from a Dragon is much greater than a physical attack. Just look at MG's casual roar it was a lot greater than his strength feats.
 

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Sherria would have been dead/KO from that attack if Wendy didn't enchant her stats so it is impressive. Sherria was low-mid S12 tier in stats and had GS advantage yet was still gonna lose if she didn't have Wendy as support.

A dragon's strongest asset is not their physical stats or they wouldn't even bother mastering their element and creating moves and secret arts.


Dragon have magic to hurt other Dragons which is how DS magic was passed on to humans. Pretty sure a full powered roar from a Dragon is much greater than a physical attack. Just look at MG's casual roar it was a lot greater than his strength feats.
Dragons having magic to hurt other dragons does not mean that ALL dragons have magic to hurt other dragons. Not every magic is offensive. And yes MG's roar was impressive but as we've seen from Acno vs Igneel it's the physical attacks that actually deal the most damage.
 

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I highly doubt stripping magic was his main magic.. How would Zilconis hurt any dragon if his roar was just stripping.
It could be just a subset of his main magic, kind of like how the seal is part of Sting's White Dragon Slaying magic or how enchanting and healing is part of Sky Dragon Slaying magic. The main point is that Zilconis hasn't really ever been shown to be using jade as his element. The whole reason he was called a Jade Dragon was because he asked what Hisui's name was (Hisui is jade in Japanese), and she brought up the fact that Zirconis' skin color was the same as jades.
 
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