Games Mafia Game 50 - Bleach: The Summer War - END GAME

[Demonspeed]

Vote Kill Philia.

 

[Farfalla]

Hoping Philia is mafia so we can test our power \o/
Altho there will be only 2 we could use... I have no idea how we'd decide who to block or protect and how that would be any helpful if there's another mafia among us to spill the beans about our power to the rest of the scums lol

 

[Philia]

Running lynch trains can be fun, especially on annoying kids like Philia Hiyori

Votekill Hiyori

Vote Kill Philia.

Yare yare.
You are gonna regret it so much

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 16, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 16, 2016 ---

Hoping Philia is mafia so we can test our power \o/

Votekill me Farfs

 

[digitaldude]

How do we decide which powers to use?

 

[Philia]

At this rate we're gonna have 3-4 people dead by night 1.

Good, Good

 

[Hakuteiken]

Hoping Philia is mafia so we can test our power \o/
Altho there will be only 2 we could use... I have no idea how we'd decide who to block or protect and how that would be any helpful if there's another mafia among us to spill the beans about our power to the rest of the scums lol

Two? How can we use two in this situation? I thought we have only one power to trigger at this stage.

 

[Erinyes]

I have absolutely no idea who to vote for, I don't have any suspects so far, honestly don't want to bandwagon anyone. I'm just going to cast a random vote.

Votekill Mazino

 

[Riku]

At this rate we're gonna have 3-4 people dead by night 1.

Good, Good

Classic day 1 bomb claim?

 

[Philia]

Classic day 1 bomb claim?

No one would believe it, right?

 

[Riku]

No one would believe it, right?

Probably not. Let's hope you take down a mobster with you.

 

[Philia]

Probably not. Let's hope you take down a mobster with you.

Aye, aye.

 

[Hakuteiken]

So, in short (not really):

* Special powers aren't completely different from what we normally have in the games. Number 3 acts like a Prostitute ability, for example.
* It makes less sense to make a special power like that and include Prostitute or Mortician (Correct me if I'm wrong, I remember this role as the dead body investigator) in the Town regardless. That would take away from the unique ability and the Town's ability to use it properly would not matter.
* To trigger special powers, it's more beneficial to keep killing people from your own faction.
* If the Mafia members are evenly distributed between the factions -which may or may not be true, but can be considered likely at least-, we will have to keep track of the odds after each voting. In this case, if Philia is Mafia, and we have a 2+2 = 4 Mafia player setup, we would have a 1/7 chance amongst the rest of the Visored faction to hit another Mafia member. And that would be 2/8 for Captain's faction.
* If a Town person dies in the night, depending on which faction he belongs to, the above odds would change, as well. If they kill a Captain Townie, it'd be 2/7 for us to find a Mafia amongst them. If they kill a Visored Townie, it'd be 1/6 for us to find a Mafia amongst them.
* TL;DR for the above two points from a mathematical perspective, to preserve better odds of finding Mafia, it looks better to alternate between factions rather than keep killing a person from one faction only.

All in all, I see more benefit in thinking about the potential of Day 2 here to figure out what to do.

 

[gnut]

I gotta get ready for work...
Gonna votekill erin for now...

 

[Riku]

So, in short (not really):

* Special powers aren't completely different from what we normally have in the games. Number 3 acts like a Prostitute ability, for example.
* It makes less sense to make a special power like that and include Prostitute or Mortician (Correct me if I'm wrong, I remember this role as the dead body investigator) in the Town regardless. That would take away from the unique ability and the Town's ability to use it properly would not matter.
* To trigger special powers, it's more beneficial to keep killing people from your own faction.
* If the Mafia members are evenly distributed between the factions -which may or may not be true, but can be considered likely at least-, we will have to keep track of the odds after each voting. In this case, if Philia is Mafia, and we have a 2+2 = 4 Mafia player setup, we would have a 1/7 chance amongst the rest of the Visored faction to hit another Mafia member. And that would be 2/8 for Captain's faction.
* If a Town person dies in the night, depending on which faction he belongs to, the above odds would change, as well. If they kill a Captain Townie, it'd be 2/7 for us to find a Mafia amongst them. If they kill a Visored Townie, it'd be 1/6 for us to find a Mafia amongst them.
* TL;DR for the above two points from a mathematical perspective, to preserve better odds of finding Mafia, it looks better to alternate between factions rather than keep killing a person from one faction only.

All in all, I see more benefit in thinking about the potential of Day 2 here to figure out what to do.

Those powers are one time use and under somewhat hard to reach, so I honestly don't think blocking ability excludes the possibility of prostitute in game for certain. Though the point is pretty good balancing-wise, and I'm certainly gonna look into the powers right now, since I've already forgotten most of them.

But mostly I agree with you and great post. Though we can't take it for granted that each faction has 2 mafia. Technically speaking it should always be completly random. But who knows what Panda has cooked up.

 

[Zasz]

So Philia is going to be killed just like that?
Did I miss something on him getting bandwagoned?
He might as well start hinting something about his role...
Anyway, since time is almost up, I'll cast a random vote, as I totally don't have any suspects for now.

Votekill Demonspeed

 

[Hakuteiken]

Those powers are one time use and under somewhat hard to reach, so I honestly don't think blocking ability excludes the possibility of prostitute in game for certain. Though the point is pretty good balancing-wise, and I'm certainly gonna look into the powers right now, since I've already forgotten most of them.

But mostly I agree with you and great post. Though we can't take it for granted that each faction has 2 mafia. Technically speaking it should always be completly random. But who knows what Panda has cooked up.

True point. It's not going to be easy to trigger the latter powers. To be frank, it looks more like an endgame tool more so than something that leads you to clear conclusion at this stage.
It's just that the incentive for the hosts to include these roles within the setup might not be as strong or I so theorize.

The distribution part cannot be known for sure, of course. It's just what I find more likely to balance the "Kill one faction until it's halved" trigger at this point.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

So Philia is going to be killed just like that?
Did I miss something on him getting bandwagoned?
He might as well start hinting something about his role...
Anyway, since time is almost up, I'll cast a random vote, as I totally don't have any suspects for now.

Votekill Demonspeed

Well he hinted at being a bomb but we shall see

 

[Riku]

Personally I don't get why this Philia-wagon formed, but if he turns out to be town, I'd said there is a pretty good chance atleast one of the people voting him is a mafia, so that narrows down suspects for tomorrow. With any luck, Phil is a bomb and takes down one.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

I dont understand philia thing either people were rather quick to jump on this. Well hopefully we are lucky enough to kill a mafia

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 16, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 16, 2016 ---

a bit more than 1 hour left would be nice if host could count some votes

 

[Kat]

15/16

Philia 5x (Holt, digitaldude, James Rye, xi0,Demonspeed)

Demonspeed 2x (Philia, Zasz)

g01 2x (lawlett-kun, Lovemagi)

lawlett-kun 1x (Ustegius)

Lovemagi 1x (Hakuteiken)

Ustegius 1x (Farfalla)

Holt 1x (g01)

Mazino 1x (Erinyes)

Erinyes 1x (gnut)

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