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[Demonspeed]

The Zeldris fans will be pleased. His Magic seems to powerful too.

Both Glox and King have the same Magic, so I guess Disaster is the magic of the Fairy King. I think kkck had that theory before.

Nakaba not giving details about Escanor's PL makes things mysterious. Estarossa was superior in terms of Magic until he powered up at 10:59 or 11:29, it's odd.

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

Gloxinia and Monspiet have the highest magic power among the Commandments. That's something. We have seen what Glox is capable but so far Monspiet feels a bit underwhelming, yet Meliodas was very alert about him. Derrierie has Combo Star. Monspiet has Trick Star. So does he have the same ability only with magic attacks? That would be verrrry VERY troublesome. He has a huge magic power and if he can stack it by using it multiple times like with his birds you burn to death really really quickly.

Holy shit, the Commandments are seriously back to impressing me again, just stat-wise at least. The rest is determined by plot anyway.

This also relates to my own personal theory that Monspiet and Derr aren't lovers but are brother and sister, or father and daughter, but are related. Not only do they have the same magic ability, but they have the same blood type as well. In addition, Derr seems more like a child (she likes to play in the water) then Monspiet, who seems to be more like her caretaker

 

[SpectrumRay16]

The Zeldris fans will be pleased. His Magic seems to powerful too.

Both Glox and King have the same Magic, so I guess Disaster is the magic of the Fairy King. I think kkck had that theory before.

Nakaba not giving details about Escanor's PL makes things mysterious. Estarossa was superior in terms of Magic until he powered up at 10:59 or 11:29, it's odd.

What if Escanor's attacks are not magic based, but, spirit based?
Or perhaps there was never a question as to whose magic was stronger... after all, it looked more like Escanor got upset rather than he powered up slightly. Because he was in perfect control of himself until Estarossa said "GG, i win" and then Escanor wasn't too thrilled, appeared huge (spirit stat is huge i'm guessing) and his magic just blew up!

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I think what is deadly about Escanor's magic isnt that its so huge but its the heat of it

 

[SpectrumRay16]

I think what is deadly about Escanor's magic isnt that its so huge but its the heat of it

WAIT!
what was blasted at the commandments at Vaizel was what was inside of Rhitta right?
Well Rhitta can only store the heat/energy omitting from Escanor and we found in chapter 186 that he could not control his magic if it exceeded a certain power. So what if what we saw at Vaizel was actually just 3000 magic or so destroying Gloxinia because he is fragile and burning Dolor because he is tough?
Then he was using more than that against Estarossa, but, he lost control of it when it increased to much and he proceeded to obliterate him and send him flying?
Then the fact that he lost control would tie into why he wants control, because his magic is super dangerous with the heat it emits (even more so wen he is using the magic as a weapon) and he desperately wants control over it, in his own fanbook entry.

 

[oxtopus]

How come dolor has a different magic from creation? To think diane is going to surpass 54,000pl,i'll wait to see how Nakaba pulls that one off. I'm beginning to think derrière and monspiet are siblings,trick star and combo star,hmmm.
I still can't believe that dolor and gloxinia are that strong.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

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WAIT!
what was blasted at the commandments at Vaizel was what was inside of Rhitta right?
Well Rhitta can only store the heat/energy omitting from Escanor and we found in chapter 186 that he could not control his magic if it exceeded a certain power. So what if what we saw at Vaizel was actually just 3000 magic or so destroying Gloxinia because he is fragile and burning Dolor because he is tough?
Then he was using more than that against Estarossa, but, he lost control of it when it increased to much and he proceeded to obliterate him and send him flying?
Then the fact that he lost control would tie into why he wants control, because his magic is super dangerous with the heat it emits (even more so wen he is using the magic as a weapon) and he desperately wants control over it, in his own fanbook entry.

Exactly
Well i think they couldnt read escanor's power or theres somthing wrong with estarossa

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How come dolor has a different magic from creation? To think diane is going to surpass 54,000pl,i'll wait to see how Nakaba pulls that one off. I'm beginning to think derrière and monspiet are siblings,trick star and combo star,hmmm.
I still can't believe that dolor and gloxinia are that strong.

Maybe they dont have to defeat them
Dolor's dream is to defeat the demon king so he can team up with the sins or maybe he's afflicted by piety

 

[SpectrumRay16]

How come dolor has a different magic from creation? To think diane is going to surpass 54,000pl,i'll wait to see how Nakaba pulls that one off. I'm beginning to think derrière and monspiet are siblings,trick star and combo star,hmmm.
I still can't believe that dolor and gloxinia are that strong.

I believe that is a translation error/difference because it would make much more sense for Dolor to have creation as his ability, similar to how Gloxinia has Disaster. I could see Diane and King potentially reversing the demon takeover that happened to Dolor and Gloxinia which would weaken them in order to beat them. Without being partially demons, i think that they would be in the 40K's.
Derrierie and Monspiet are either lovers, siblings or something very close... less of course he is a high class demon whose family adopted her during the war and that is why their abilities are the same?
But, like you i'm curious to see Diane and King get to 50K for their power ups... it suddenly seems like Escanor and Melioda truly are the only ones that stand a chance. even if they did train!

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Maybe they dont have to defeat them
Dolor's dream is to defeat the demon king so he can team up with the sins or maybe he's afflicted by piety

True, but, then again... Dolor would probably join, but, Gloxinia wants to wipe out mankind... which would probably be quelled if Gehrade came and slapped him in the face. But, i suspect that they may not defeat all the commandments, but, stop them or hold them off for the important battles to happen. Neverthless, we need this training arc to happen now. It sort of makes me think that the commandments are all gonna get ganged up on, with the giants vs Dolor, the fairies vs Gloxinia, the humans vs gray lord and the remaining sins and select knights vs the rest!

 

[Yakkun]

How come dolor has a different magic from creation? To think diane is going to surpass 54,000pl,i'll wait to see how Nakaba pulls that one off. I'm beginning to think derrière and monspiet are siblings,trick star and combo star,hmmm.
I still can't believe that dolor and gloxinia are that strong.

I was wondering about the exact same things. Maybe Ground and Creation are meant to be the same things but written with different Japanese letters?

There's a couple of things that were weird about the whole fight against Mel. Dolor and Glox must have seriously pulled their punches to end up nearly dead against him either time. They just really didn't want to fight him seriously despite whatever claims were thrown around in that fight. And Derrierie is physically so fucking strong, it's ridiculous. Add the bonus she receives from her magic power and she should have absolutely obliterated Mel in hand to hand combat, so she clearly wasn't serious either.

 

[Theforsakensoul]

So monspeits commandment is reticence which apparently mean he's taciturn. Guess that explains why he doesn't have a mouth most of the time lol.

I do wonder which actual commandment he represents. The only thing that comes to mind is honour your parents but i doubt that's it.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

I was wondering about the exact same things. Maybe Ground and Creation are meant to be the same things but written with different Japanese letters?

There's a couple of things that were weird about the whole fight against Mel. Dolor and Glox must have seriously pulled their punches to end up nearly dead against him either time. They just really didn't want to fight him seriously despite whatever claims were thrown around in that fight. And Derrierie is physically so fucking strong, it's ridiculous. Add the bonus she receives from her magic power and she should have absolutely obliterated Mel in hand to hand combat, so she clearly wasn't serious either.

I sort of wonder whether or not what Dolor and Gloxinia asked him whether or not he was going to kill them as a way to know how serious he was about it, or perhaps they wanted to lose the fight so they would not have to live their lives under the demon king and thus put up a fight, but, not to the best of their abilities?
I mean, the only other possibility is they used up so much magic to make the competition that by the time they finished and got blown to heck, they were no longer in top shape to fight Meliodas and were forced to pull their punches?

 

[oxtopus]

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Exactly
Well i think they couldnt read escanor's power or theres somthing wrong with estarossa

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Maybe they dont have to defeat them
Dolor's dream is to defeat the demon king so he can team up with the sins or maybe he's afflicted by piety

That's not what I mean. It was said diane has the potential to surpass dolor. Considering her current 3250 pl and dolor's 54000 pl,i don't know how that's going to happen

 

[Yakkun]

So monspeits commandment is reticence which apparently mean he's taciturn. Guess that explains why he doesn't have a mouth most of the time lol.

I do wonder which actual commandment he represents. The only thing that comes to mind is honour your parents but i doubt that's it.

That would make a lot of sense considering what is implied about Derrierie and their relationship and the fact that Derrierie was so livid that Nerobasta and her likes slaughtered demon children could hint that she was one of those who barely got away. Monspiet acts as a great caretaker of Derrie so this Commandment would probably fit him the most.

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

So monspeits commandment is reticence which apparently mean he's taciturn. Guess that explains why he doesn't have a mouth most of the time lol.

I do wonder which actual commandment he represents. The only thing that comes to mind is honour your parents but i doubt that's it.

I'm like 99% sure his commandment is: You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

 

[oxtopus]

I believe that is a translation error/difference because it would make much more sense for Dolor to have creation as his ability, similar to how Gloxinia has Disaster. I could see Diane and King potentially reversing the demon takeover that happened to Dolor and Gloxinia which would weaken them in order to beat them. Without being partially demons, i think that they would be in the 40K's.
Derrierie and Monspiet are either lovers, siblings or something very close... less of course he is a high class demon whose family adopted her during the war and that is why their abilities are the same?
But, like you i'm curious to see Diane and King get to 50K for their power ups... it suddenly seems like Escanor and Meliodas truly are the only ones that stand a chance. even if they did train!

Only elizabeth would be able to reverse their demonification. With this new info released. For any of the sins who isn't meliodas or escanor to stand a chance against the commandments,they are going to need at least a 30,000 power level.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

That's not what I mean. It was said diane has the potential to surpass dolor. Considering her current 3250 pl and dolor's 54000 pl,i don't know how that's going to happen

Was it ever stated ? I dont remember

 

[Eiryuu]

It's nice to have all the information about the commandments. At least the whole 'Estarossa can create demons' thing is confirmed. Now what confuses me is how was Estarossa's magic compared to Escanors?? His level is only 3000, even King and Merlin's magic stat is higher then that. Also - we finally know his birthday, why was it not even revealed before though??

I am now excited to see Zeldris finally have his moment in the spotlight - I wonder what this 'God' ability is. He's also over 100 years younger then Estarossa, I wonder what the proper age difference between Meliodas and him are (I mean by how old Mel was before he was cursed). I kind of found both Zeldris and Estarossa's profiles rather boring, they're almost identical. I wonder why they don't have a charm point??

Derrierie's hobby is adorable! I used to ship her with Monspiet - but after the latest chapters I just see it more as brotherly/sisterly love or something along those lines. If they end up as siblings I am going to be disgusted with myself for ever shipping them.

Also - there is nothing new to Galan's profile other then his personal things like; age, blood, hobbies, dreams... etc. So think his role in the story is over??

On another note... I wonder who Merlin confessed to and why she also regrets being born.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

That would make a lot of sense considering what is implied about Derrierie and their relationship and the fact that Derrierie was so livid that Nerobasta and her likes slaughtered demon children could hint that she was one of those who barely got away. Monspiet acts as a great caretaker of Derrie so this Commandment would probably fit him the most.

I'm interested to see how exactly the remaining sins train to match their commandment counter parts. King's seems the easiest in terms of power up, he just has to grow a pair of wings and master the true form of his ST. Diane is going to learn how to dance and probably use Gideon's ability (She may even tag team with King or get help from Matrona), Ban is probably gonna face Derrierie, Gowther is likely to face Gray Lord, Monspiet vs Merlin seems likely and Meliodas vs Zeldris is something we likely all wanna see.
Escanor's had his fair share of commandment busting for now, i mean 6/10 defeated is enough for 1 day. I mean, if he fights the demon king that would be sick... but, i'f expect that to be a 7 sin job, no matter how strong Escanor is (less of course he be the backup plan)

Ps: Dolor is 85ft and Diane is 30ft... so there is a huge difference there (Though, Diane is like 5'3 for a human, which makes her quite small nonethless)

 

[Yakkun]

That's not what I mean. It was said diane has the potential to surpass dolor. Considering her current 3250 pl and dolor's 54000 pl,i don't know how that's going to happen

Dancing.

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Two things that occupy my mind currently: Fraudrin's magic is called Full Size. I have no idea what that entails but he threatened Death Pierce that if he were to shed his skin and reveal his true nature then they wouldn't be so full of themselves. So it might have something to do with that.

Second, and much more plot relevant - Estarossa has the ability to convert people into demons. Should he really die at Escanor's hand and be returned to Purgatory then there is a certain chance that the demon king takes advantage of that situation and has him transform Meliodas back into a demon.

 

[Gallon]

Dude what? Meliodas was able to overpower both Dolor and Gloxinia - just how much does his strength increase when he uses his demonic mark?
Zeldris is apparently the strongest, eh? Estarossa is the strongest physically, but it's to be expected that his magic stat would be lower, since Full Counter seems to have it like that.

Galan was almost dead, lol.