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Lol keep making excuses for Natsu, you just can't seem to comprehend the foreshadodwing, logic and testament Gray has that Gray is the far more deserving to take down END. I mean you would literally understand when Mashima gave Gray this magic for that purpose alone, but the denial in you is very strong. Let me know when Natsu has a magic that is relevant to fight his innerself. Let me know when he has a personal history with a bad demon.No, it s u who is making excuses like Gray is DESERVING.....Just like GRAY's father, even NATSU's father IGNEEL told NATSU he will be the one to defeat END & he believes in NATSU....Even ZEREF stated "Only you or END will reach me" ......Compared to u , I m basing this on speculations from the manga....U r the one who is completely going berserk given the fact your boy GRAY is on the possibility of getting overshadowed.......Before , u were not ready to just accept the fact that GRAY will not defeat Invel solely.........
Juvia's assistance & my boy NATSU escaping on his own left you sour.Personal HISTORY, overlooking the fact that NATSU himself is more closely related to DEMONS....Oh , so just one arc & u r making GRAY MC.....He will forever be a support MC.....
You simply cannot accept the truth that END will forever be a hype...You already said ACNO is tiers above him when u don't have the slightest idea of how strong END really is? The whole continent's magic had to be exhausted in order to revive him........HMM, u r overlooking this fact / U r just ignoring it for ur theory for the sake of GRAY defeating END.
Again, i have proved it time and time again and i have no intrest and doing it again. You just missed out. Feel free to look back on past pages and chapter discussions. We dont need any more polls, or discussions about this. Again. You are part of an increasingly small group of people that dont see Natsu being capable of holding his own against a Spriggan there is just no reason i have to explain something that is getting clearer and clearer as the manga progresses. At this point, Natsu can solo Zeref and people would still say hes not spriggan level. I say that last part jokingly, of course; just emphesising some of the biased charater ability/power on Natsu that people have.
How we are closer to knowing where Gray falls, when the chapter hasn't been released yet. I would say he's definitely as strong as Erza, that's for sure.
Right now as in feats as of chapter 497. Erza has a whole fight against a Spriggan while Gray was seen struggling against Ur, albeit holding back, but still doesn't stack up next to Erza. And she was not low diffed by one at all...
I don't understand why people keep rehashing the Ur fight even though it wasn't suppose to be a fight but is only there for character development. Gray packed more punch of ice against fodder than what was used against Ur to begin with. Historia fights are for character development, not power gaugement.
It is clear u have not seen or read the TARTAROS arc where MARDGEER stated that it will require the exhaustion of whole continent's magic in order to resurrect END.....Mashima has given DeS for a reason...U can also look at it this way...Mashima gave him the magic so that he can assist NATSU in his inner fight against END........Even though he is turned in to slave player
...U never accepted the fact that someone will assist GRAY at first which forced u to swallow a bitter pill after these spoilers...Now , u want him still to defeat INVEL solely ..Gray showed his DeS.But , u still do not accept the fact that INVEL might still have an ace even after GRAY frees himself (assumption -he will not get help)........
I don't hold this fight against Gray. But it is a fight he was in. It's better than his fight against the weakbots. Essentially Gray was strong enough to help Lyon through some stuff while facing a wizard saint level person. Still, this type of thing is not on the level of fighting a Spriggan. Gray's best display has probably been IM Silver, but I couldn't compare that to actually beating Ajeel (with help).
I don't know how Ajeel was low-mid diffing before Bisca. This guy was cut a few times and used his best spell. In sandworld I agree that Ajeel dominates, but in the scheme of the whole fight Erza wasn't being low diffed.
He KO'd Jacob at the time. It's the same as Jellal taking out Neinhart with Grand Chariot... but now Neinhart is healthy.
Gray used his devil magic combined with that other ice guy's attack to take her out. Ajeel would've lost to Erza? he used sandworld and was melting her and sand world didn't even tire him out. He could've teleported to Natsu and slice him neck open. What would've Erza done if they were fighting on the ground he brought out the Ant pit, sand wave? Nothing she would become a skeleton.
Mard Geer is a massive notabe liar, believing in his words even he bullshited about END being the founder of Tartaros is your own fault. LOL slave player, I would laugh if Natsu was turned into a slave playerIt is clear u have not seen or read the TARTAROS arc where MARDGEER stated that it will require the exhaustion of whole continent's magic in order to resurrect END.....Mashima has given DeS for a reason...U can also look at it this way...Mashima gave him the magic so that he can assist NATSU in his inner fight against END........Even though he is turned in to slave player
When do u need magic to fight your inner self ? It is just a battle of wills........
I am sour......I never wanted NATSU to fight INVEL , GS, IRENE or even LARCADE....U r the one who is inducing GRAY to defeat this and taht and those and so on......You want him to support here & there......U yourself have receded from the fact "From defeating to major damage".....I m saying "Not even major damage just damage and assistance".
When does the MC need to have a bad history to fight VILLAINS ? They will fight even for the sake of their friends...........
You want GRAY to overshadow NATSU. Sorry ,never going to happen...Unless, MASHIMA starts FT-2 with GRAY as MC.......Nah , I doubt that will happen.
Gray used devil slaying magic in his base form though. I said Ajeel would likely low mid diffed Erza if Brandish didn't assist her. This is pretty much factual, didn't think I had to comment on this.
Gray had plenty of assistance. Like with Silver, or when Ul "spoke" to Ultear, she would have owned him. Ultear saving him from being shot dead by mob dragons. It seems you favor Gray a bit much who has not defeated any foe without being directly aided and that is the point. He had purposely directed aid.
Gray didn't get any outside assistance against Silver. He won by outwitting Silver with Silver holding back for most of the fight. Again, even though Ultear was subjected to PIS, it still means that Gray won the battle by himself, without any one assisting him. Ul's memories simply a part. It's plot circumstanced. Gray dying from mob dragons was CIS based considering it was to remove Ultear from the story even though Gray could've put up the shield to protect himself. It's plot based. Maybe you should watch yourself more of Gray's battles, because he was not assisted or aided at all when he defeated Tempesta, Lyon, Sugarboy, Ultear, Rufus, amongst others etc.
I see Natsu and Laxus being relatively equal in power to be honest. I know both have their own abilities but nothing Hax as of yet from either of them. But i'm pretty sure that you're underestimating the pure grotesque plot holes that mangaka can create just to promote their MC...
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Take me on what's going through your head when you said God Serena is stronger tha. Ajeel?
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Where's your evidence that Erza will get a power up to fight Irene? Last time I checked, she's taking Fairy Heart out of Mavis which will take 2 months of chapters.
He's generally stronger than Ajeel I feel, but it's not by much.
He can counter sandworld by using his dragon slayer senses. Also if he spams water/wind spells he's a chance of hitting Ajeel, and that might stop sandworld.
I'm not, Serena would have a hard time even with direct counters.
Which one?
Ajeel wouldn't be able to stop August's Melt spell, it would likely hurt Ajeel a bit.
Yes Ajeel has vast AoE with Sandworld and it's a great spell, but his attack power isn't as high as someone like God Serena or his hax isn't as great as DiMaria's; which is why I place them above Ajeel..