No i know what your mean, my point is people keep thinking Arthur will/can surpasses Escanor is BS, even we still dont know what kind magic Arthur have, you can see most people with high magic level have hex ability, and arthur magic is even higher than Mera.
Ah, sorry if I misunderstood you about something.
Good point. I just hope there's a reasonable explanation about that; if it was just "Oh, I've had Excalibur that could annihilate the Commandments, but I'm not using it", then I'd lose interest in Arthur even more than I have.
Nah its ok, my problem some people only see PL is everything, in fact PL is not same like PL in Dragon Ball or Toriko. Yes Nakaba not perfect mangaka, but i love what he do. Not like FT have strongest person in guild, but Hiro never use it.
Yeah, power levels don't really decide a fight, they just give a reference as to who has the better odds and abilities. It really all depends on the situation.
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I suppose King reaching maturity might power him up enough to control every natural energy of the world, challenge Gloxinia & win.
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I certainly wasn’t expecting that.
…. Or is this fan-book expressing future events – not only hers but for other characters as well? If so, it’s not so much ‘gave up’ as ‘going to soon give up’.
Keep in mind that Meliodas's demon mark being active increases his overall power level. King noted this when he was fighting Dolor and Glox after he activated his demon powers. The reason his power from his attacks improved so much against Dolor was because of the demon mark, not necessarily his skill. 32K=His base without the mark active 50-60K= approximately his power with the mark activeLots & lots of info........Imma try to digest em all now.
Mel’s skills in combat is unparalleled, but the different between his base form & Dolor in PL when they fought was rather notable, so what the actual heck is going on here?
Maybe PL unlock certain level of ability; a PL of 7000 STR for an extremely skilled & agile fighter with a decent ability might prove a particularly difficult challenge for even a big foot with 15000 STR. Now if the disparity in PL is even greater than that – I.e the skilled & agile fighter having 700 vs the big foot’s 15000 – then perhaps it not only turns into a situation where the agile fighter doesn’t have the PL to utilise the speed, agility & reflexes to dance around in the confrontation but also a situation where the agile fighter wouldn’t be capable enough to leave so much as a scratch on the big foot.
Same applied during Mel’s fight with the 10C.
His base form PL was ridiculously inferior – a PL difference of 5000 between two fighters is astronomical btw – but his skills in combat was unbelievable superior.
Mel’s incredibly keen battle instinct coupled with his battle skills like his swordsmanship, speed, foot-work, agility, battle awareness, power efficiency, pin-point accuracy, swift strikes, swift body movement & so on essentially enabled him to combat 50K combatants, & that’s a scary thought. So what happens when his base PL isn’t 30+K but instead 60+K?
As for why he didn’t fear his foe unleashing their vastly superior PL – PL difference of 5000+ could essentially make some crap themselves btw – right at his face? I’d say experience. Mel had battled his way to the Top & knows how it feels to face the strongest, & he had experienced that exaltation of being the “Supreme Demon” himself. Fear won’t dissuade him, rather motivate him.Full Size is a word that has the implication of complete bodily transformation or metamorphosis. Fraudrin’s true Demon form is rather large according the fan-book, & the silhouette of him murdering Mel’s Liz also shows this. Perhaps, he’d have a power resembling something like Galan’s critical over.
Fraudrin desires Gowther’s revival? Why so keen on this? Was he an admirer of Gowther’s style & power back in the day or something? Perchance Gowther was even his personal trainer/master, hence both possessing mind-invasion-like abilities. I can’t wait to see more of Gowther in action now.54K PL? Woah, what a tough Demon.
Balor desires to overthrow the King huh? This gives a solid implication that the post of King is solely determined by might; meaning anyone with enough dunamis could make it a goal to overthrow the King.
(maybe it was even the DK that humiliated his giant ass once50k & 0 STR point? Damn that imbalance!The Author sure wasn’t kidding when he implied Arthur becoming a kingly beast. Maybe he’d eventually combat a Fraudrin-lvl Demon or above when more elite Demons are revived or something. Can’t wait to see his full potentially mega-ludicrous PL in the future. (100k+?Arthur’s eeire cat. Quite strong with an astonishing spirit stat of 5000 – 1k more than Estarossa’s own & the highest shown thus far. Question remains, what is a spirit stat?Merlin regrets being born? I guess we can expect a somewhat tragic backstory about her.
Infinity magic eh? Possibly an innate ability that essentially enables her to grasp all magic ability she sees & quickly masters them irrespective of their nature, hence her freakish growth rate & her gluttonous craving for knowledge wherever she’s able to find it.
Oh, an embarrassing confession? Could be someone she grew up with (or spent a lot of time with) that wasn’t able to handle her – her freakish, logic-breaking growth rate & insistent desire for more knowledge. Perhaps Meliodas – the complete, 7 feet tall & non-cursed(!) version – who’d have no eyes for anyone other than Liz rejected her a very, very looooong time ago.Vivian magic is named “suck”? Lol what?
Maybe she has similar, though inferior, talent to the gluttonous sin in that she has an affinity for learning magic exceptionally fast.
Still……..poor Vivian & her 0.01% chance at Gilthunder.Mel drew on her face? Ha mischievous madman. Love to see more of her though since I like her character design.Zeldris with the highest PL in the 10C with 61k?
God magic? Sounds frighteningly haxxxed as all hell. Though it does make sense since he is the King’s Avatar & all.Creating Demons? Sounds like something any high-lvl Demon can do, though not to his level of expertise.We’ve yet to see any Dragon, & since I really like Dragons & even fascinate myself by drawing them, I’d like to see the Dragons & their King.Stealing souls? Again, something any high-lvl Demon can do, though not to her lvl & skill.
Reviving the DK? Mmm…. why not combine your powers with your brothers & sisters, & wake up the big guy from his slumber? Is there a PL limit/barrier preventing her from summoning & manipulating certain beings? (Probably)Damn! Grampa Galan is essentially on his deathbed & he could still kick major ass. I reckon the old age hampers his PL considerably.“No fighting”? No can do, we can’t have that, I love a good fight.
Why do I get the feeling that this Demon would eventually become Merlin’s test subject? She might even take its enfeebling powers for herself.Derieri & Monspeet, Combo star & Trick star.
I initially wanted Ban to face-off with Monspeet for…. reasons but now I’m more keen on something else. These two are every close like brothers and sisters are close, & they’ve probably experienced some painful events due to the epic War with the Goddess in the past. I see them fighting one of the 4 Great Angels – one that they know well and have a personally score to settle with – & I see them combining their powers, creating a perfectly synchronised star combo & basically enact their revenge, perhaps at the expense of their own lives....Unmeasurable PL? What a tease! Well, given the fluctuating nature of it, Escanor not having full control of it & plot, I was expecting it to stay in the unknown for now; so no surprises there.7.6K PL? Tbh, I was expecting it to be slightly more. I guess I ought to rule her out fighting Balor then. She might get killed by Balor though, enraging Diane enough to mother catastrophe his super-giant ass to the moon.4200 years old? What!!!Giving up on Ban so soon? I don’t believe it
She so much desires magic power right now? Damn, I sympathise with her 270 PL.Desired “a chance to try out his power”? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!..........
Keep in mind that with an enfeebling curse draining him, restricting his PL, the damages he had taken & so on, he was the second person to have survived the combo star from a vastly superior Demon in STR, so yeah....skill.
What curse was draining him? The only curse he has is his inability to pass onto the after life. He already had the curse that restricted his power level removed, and he purposely gave up his peak power by choosing to gain emotions. Also, the damage he took has nothing to do with the fact that his demon mark boosts his powers. The only real feat he gained was serving Deri's combo star. Other than that he could only fight dolor and glox because Escanor made an opening for him, and his demon mark gave him power to fight them after they had been healing throughout the fight.
- Drained from Dolor & Glonoxia fight (said Fraudin).
Cursed chain only prevents him from fleeing, they don't affect his powers.
Demons are resilient but not invulnerable. They can be KO'd even with all their hearts intact.
Brain trauma which causes a knock out is different than actually receiving damage intended to kill you. If you're hit in the right location, you can actually be knocked out by one punch fairly easily. Also, Meliodas didn't almost wipe out the 10C, the revenge counter did. The revenge counter is the accumulation of the damage power caused by others which is then reflected back at them. In others words, it's not Meliodas's 30K power that nearly killed them, it was their own power that would've wiped them out. I'm really not sure how you messed up that fact, its one of the most basic facts about revenge counter. And to disprove it even further, Meliodas has to shut his powers off to use revenge counter.Demons are resilient but not invulnerable. They can be KO'd even with all their hearts intact.
He was in the midst of individuals almost 10 Elite class Demons, having a PL of 30k - 60k & almost wiped them out with his own 30K & being confined to a tiny space doesn't affect him? It limited his options, yet he almost wiped them out. That is demonstrating pure skill.
Getting a bit ridiculous here.
King's sacred treasure nearly acts as a catalyst to draw out his power. He controls the spear, so it is his own power.Getting a bit ridiculous here.
You might as well say King's power isn't his own, it comes from Trees & his ST
Ban's steal power isn't his own because he stole power.
Deldris magic isn't his, it's the DK's.
The power in full counter isn't Estarossa's own, even though he said otherwise, it comes from his opponent's physical hits.
Mera's power isn't their own, it comes from souls.
You can say all those things & I'd always disagree with you every single time.
The RC isn't a corporeal being with a functioning brain to do something like almost wiping out the 10C; so it didn't do it, it's Mel's power. "He hinders himself defenceless against all form of power and changes himself with the attacks. However, it is a double-edged sword where one mistake in taking an attack would be inevitably fatal. This is captain's ultimate move"
The mere fact that he shuts down his already weakened power in a crippled state against the 10C with 30k - 60k PL & arrive at a RC powerful enough to almost wipe them out is particularly what makes the feat of skill even MORE impressive.
Non of you lot actually disproved anything then, though that aside; this is getting even more ridiculous.
If you think 3-4 people all simultaneously disagreeing with your posts wasn't enough to convince you that you were off, then you sir are really not worth talking to. Even today another respectable member noted that some of your information was very off. Also, Laughing at your own posts, ignoring the opinions of outside commentators; that's really a sign of poor listening skills and as I have learned, you cannot force some to see the opinions of others when they are too caught up in their own words. Also just to humor you before I give myself a headache at 11:55PM Counter Banish is Meliodas's own power because he removes the powers of others using his own technique. Simple. and the quotation literally does nothing to disprove my claims because it's literally off topic. What does that quote have to do with it not being Meliodas's own power? He hinders himself by turning off his powers (Off topic to it not being his own magical power behind it). it's a double edged sword because it could kill him too (Still off topic to it not being his own magical power). captain's ultimate move= the technique is his own yes, BUT THE MAGICAL POWER BEHIND THE REVENGER COUNTER ISN'T HIS OWN POWER. Look, this is off topic to the spoilers, go to the theory thread and post it there. This is for spoilers, not your own interpretation of the manga.Non of you lot actually disproved anything then, though that aside; this is getting even more ridiculous.
So about counter banish? It has the word counter in it & all it does is banish magic attacks aimed at Meliodas, so surely that isn't his own power right?
Did you ignore the quotation of what RC is & what it does? "Hinders himself".... "double-edged sword"..... "one mistake..would be inevitably fatal"...c"aptain's ultimate move"?
If by 3 people, you meant Escanor blatant fanatics that, like you, "got triggered" merely by me anticipating & predicting a 3 round fight between Estarossa & Escanor in a discussion & prediction thread, then yes, you'd have a point; but you don't! & you are basically proving to me that you don't think on your own but desparately cling on to others to support your argumentation or stance... though I do have myself to blame for essentially entertaining one as yourself who so arrogantly believes that he's able to "figure out how Nakaba's going to end" the manga instead simply speaking his mind on the chapters & making predictions about it.
Now you see this would bother me if it had any veracity behind it. Instead all you gave was a poor attempt at psychologically profiling me and others through assumptions, and repeating yourself in circles after I addressed several things you already brought up. You've derailed this conversation long enough. Take your posts to the theory thread before the mods delete your "precious" ideas. This is for stats, not angry rants that have no quality towards them.