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Philia · Aug 29, 2016

Erinyes said:
your target is healthy ?

Too much of a coincidence.

Hakuteiken · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
Utsune did said, "Psst kill both of them, I want spoilers on their roles" and "who cares about masons?" and was rather really pressing for Holt to stay alive. After all the Utsune changed his vote immediately when noticing the tie between xnut and Holt and went right onto Xnut and I'm sure that might have even been after my mason claim on him and myself. You used a good argument with mentor and mentee, Utsune did nothing of that sort, just suddenly changing votes from me to xnut for no appart reason expect Holt claiming to be active and I don't think I even read that reasoning in his posts just whining why Holt has 4 votes and such.
You don't think this feels like a desperate case of a mafia trying to keep their whore alive? Maybe Utsune has a useless mafia role like normal mafia member so that the mafia got somebody who can suicidal kill against somebody who got a mysterious gift and thus possible the 5th one which kills the killer as well. So Utsune thought better risk himself and avoid the kill on an important role.

Oh right. He had a post about spoilers and something, which sort of confused me.
I do remember him questioning the Holt bandwagon. Honestly, everyone should have, since we actually had no lead on Holt. However, that's a good point that he didn't really say much about his reasoning.

James Rye · Aug 29, 2016

Ustegius said:
I'm starting seriously doubt the mason claim now. James keeps being confusing about Utsune and me, seems to be very certain of a poisoner in game. I thought it was a weird play in the first place. They could try some superweird mafia play. Bu then James prolly wouldn't have been so eager to sacrifice himself for dets. Though then this could be a way to lure out dets. I'm hella confused right now.

And James, please stop calling Utsune Uste, because Uste is short for my nick.

The cat is out of the back. In reality Utsune is my drag persona. But I guess I'm gonna be banned now for dual accounts

Check all my past posts, I have never written Uste. That was xnut. I have always written Utsune. Now can we PLEASE go back to the topic of Utsune trying his best to save Holt at all costs and me getting lynched to have the dets make sure what they have on townie investivation results? -_-

Farfalla · Aug 29, 2016

Erinyes said:
Oh just realized that there's also Mafia mason, omoshiroi, so accoording to the rules :
Mafia Mason (Mafia): A Mafia Mason is a Pro-Mafia that can communicate with other pro-Town Masons. The pro-Town Masons believe the Mafia Mason to be a regular pro-Town Mason. (Game 10)

which confuses me more, so we re not even sure , one of the mason claim could be mafia mason

Uh... it could be that xnut is a mason and James is a mafia mason that knows about a poisoner being in the game and came up with the detecs thing to sound believable. I mean, if they were to investigate him tonight, their results mean nothing without knowing James alliance so the investigation per se means nothing so far to them.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2016 ---

*last night, not tonight

Riku · Aug 29, 2016

Despite all my issues with James' right now;

VOTEKILL PHILIA

Doesn't that make the most sense right? The most straight forward conclusion. I am pretty sure he is mafia. Says he is sickly. Escort dies. No one gets sick. That would mean prostitute is a troll who didn't want to confirm a townie, or that Philia lies. Which seems more likely? Sure, claiming sickly is a crazy mafia move, but hell, something Philia could do. I'm quite sure of this.

Farfalla · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
Utsune did said, "Psst kill both of them, I want spoilers on their roles" and "who cares about masons?" and was rather really pressing for Holt to stay alive. After all the Utsune changed his vote immediately when noticing the tie between xnut and Holt and went right onto Xnut and I'm sure that might have even been after my mason claim on him and myself. You used a good argument with mentor and mentee, Utsune did nothing of that sort, just suddenly changing votes from me to xnut for no appart reason expect Holt claiming to be active and I don't think I even read that reasoning in his posts just whining why Holt has 4 votes and such.
You don't think this feels like a desperate case of a mafia trying to keep their whore alive? Maybe Utsune has a useless mafia role like normal mafia member so that the mafia got somebody who can suicidal kill against somebody who got a mysterious gift and thus possible the 5th one which kills the killer as well. So Utsune thought better risk himself and avoid the kill on an important role.

Altho this also seems like something that could have happened^^' Jesus, I'm lost...

Riku · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
Yeah, Utsune is high on my "totally suspicious Mafia behaviour" list. Now it sucks though that we lost a detective but I think we might have all 4 dets in this game anyway. 6 mafias divided in two groups and 4 dets makes 10 people with 12 being left to other roles of which we know 2 are masons aka me and xnut.

If all remaining dets have investigated me I don't mind getting lynched today to avoid an important townie lynch. But then we should have all dets investigate Uste and lynch her next day phase and if Uste is Mafia/NOT Mafia Boss (and since Evil was Boss of red I suspect Uste to be the poisoner) then this would be the earliest all dets can confirm for themselves their own sanity at day 3!!!

If they got innocent on me and innocent on Uste after being confirmed Mafia, they are naive.

If they got innocent on me and guilty on Uste after being confirmed Mafia, they are sane.

If they got guilty on me and guilty on Uste after being confirmed Mafia, they are paranoid.

If they got guilty on me and innocent on Uste after being confirmed Mafia, they are insane.

We lost one det but as long as the remaning dets have clear results on both a townie AND a mafia, then they know their own roles and can claim protection to avoid getting killed and look for mafias in the remaining people in our game.

Another thing:
I think me and Xnut coming out so early is actually good. It gives BOTH blue and red team townies confirmed townie roles to which they can vote to give said presents which will make our mason roles useful instead of just talking!
I think I can also reveal that Xnut and me are part of a bigger mason group though I will not tell you the numbers of people nor who of us is the recruiter if we got one that is. Let the Mafia quiver in fear of the might of the League of Justice Masons!!! XD

@James Rye "I never wrote Uste" Right. You never did.....

Hakuteiken · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
Check all my past posts, I have never written Uste. That was xnut. I have always written Utsune. Now can we PLEASE go back to the topic of Utsune trying his best to save Holt at all costs and me getting lynched to have the dets make sure what they have on townie investivation results? -_-

Well, I'm not defending him, but with your last second vote change and then coming out as Mason, I could also lynch you over Holt at a heartbeat.

James Rye · Aug 29, 2016

Yeeah, Farf if that was the case wouldn't it be pretty stupid to have myself killed if I were Mafia mason? I mean, that would come out as truth once I get lynched to have the dets check their results on me.

But the mafia mason role is important to notice as the group xnut and me are both of is larger than just 2, I will not reveal the exact number nor the names of those in it. Nor if we got a recruiter or not. But know that the mason group is bigger than just 2.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2016 ---

Ustegius said:
@James Rye "I never wrote Uste" Right. You never did.....

Whoops, my bad, Ustegius. I meant to write Utsune. I gonna make sure to fully write your name our each time I'm talking about you, okay?

Kat · Aug 29, 2016

1/18

SugarKitty 2x (Penalty, Penalty) (Penalty for inactivity, Penalty for failing to vote)

Sheepy Turtle 2x (Penalty, Penalty) (Penalty for inactivity, Penalty for failing to vote)

Ēsu Taichou 1x (Penalty) (Penalty for failing to vote)

Philia 1x (Ustegius)

Time left // Day 2

Demonspeed · Aug 29, 2016

Ustegius said:
Despite all my issues with James' right now;

VOTEKILL PHILIA

Doesn't that make the most sense right? The most straight forward conclusion. I am pretty sure he is mafia. Says he is sickly. Escort dies. No one gets sick. That would mean prostitute is a troll who didn't want to confirm a townie, or that Philia lies. Which seems more likely? Sure, claiming sickly is a crazy mafia move, but hell, something Philia could do. I'm quite sure of this.

I like this. If we lynch Philia and the dets don't reveal their role this phase. We might clearly know their sanity. But there is the Mafia Mason possibility now.

Riku · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
Easy, lynch me today and you will see that my claim was correct. I'm not worried to die today as long as all living dets have investigated me to have a clue what their results are on townies. Also I assume this means you are not detective as you haven't investigated me, right?^^

Yeah, I also want Utsune to be dead as I think he is mafia scum trying to save his mafia whore. But if he really is RED Mafia, then I think it would be best to let Uste stay alive today to make sure all remaining dets check her out tonight to make certain of their sanity like I explained last/two pages ago. Though if Uste IS the last mafia member of the red mafia then it might be best to lynch him today to take away a kill. 3 kills per night would be crazy at this rate.

NOWAY! o.o

And here @James Rye you write Uste again. And again. And you ask me to re-check your old posts? Really?

Rein Avara · Aug 29, 2016

We get a penalty for not voting on the first day?

James Rye · Aug 29, 2016

Ustegius said:
And here @James Rye you write Uste again. And again. And you ask me to re-check your old posts? Really?

Sooooooooorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~
I didn't even noticed that my writings changed from Utsune to Uste. Maybe there is a dark voice inside my head which wants you dead like I wanted Holt dead. XD

Riku · Aug 29, 2016

Ēsu Taichou said:
We get a penalty for not voting on the first day?

Yes. Every day you need to vote.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 29, 2016 ---

James Rye said:
Sooooooooorrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~
I didn't even noticed that my writings changed from Utsune to Uste. Maybe there is a dark voice inside my head which wants you dead like I wanted Holt dead. XD

Well frankly, I don't find that very funny. Because now it feels like I am a target to some people just because your opinion has big influence on them. Hope this clears out now.

Philia · Aug 29, 2016

I don't really know what to do anymore.

Hakuteiken · Aug 29, 2016

James Rye said:
But the mafia mason role is important to notice as the group xnut and me are both of is larger than just 2, I will not reveal the exact number nor the names of those in it. Nor if we got a recruiter or not. But know that the mason group is bigger than just 2.

So, there are at least three Masons and possibly no Recruiter?
No Recruiter scenario actually makes no sense to me, because, Masons then have zero interaction with the rest of the Town to prove a point.
However, this is still possible, although I'd say it would lower the Mafia Mason possibility if there was no Recruiter to begin with.