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[Lawl Po Bia]

Did you kill herms?

Along with esu?....xD

you wot m8?

 

[xi0]

Wat... Was the game thread locked by accident, or has everyone been asleep/afk?

 

[Riku]

Just caught up. This the most confusing game ever.

Despite all happenings, Philia is still pretty certain mafia. I don't really believe in a double escort scenario. That made me suspect xi0 a bit about protecting, but he made it rather clear that he doesn't mind Phil dying. So, he is not still over the asumed masons on my list.

One particular new thing about the masons really bothers me;

Wow, lots of pages, thank god I came back online before going to bed. Have to wake up in 6 hours and then work for 12 hours...

So Utsune was insane doc and the one who killed our Detective? Plus Panda confirmed Utsune's role? Meaning the Mafia Boss was probably either killed by 2nd Mafia (since 2nd Mafia is always blue I consider them to be in the blue group and first mafia in the red group) or by third party. Well, guess he wanted to save Holt because of Holt's hint then.



Chill, bro, chill. We two are masons and so are two more of us. I still won't tell you or Gry their names as that would reduce the pool of potential targets for Mafia too much. Happy now?^^



Nope, back online. Hi Gry.



Yeah, this gonna be fun. Each night will be a coin toss. xD

If some dets have checked me out last night or will investigate me this night, then I don't mind dieing much. After all, that will help our remaining dets to see what kinda sanity they might have. Plus it will prove Xnut and any of the rest who comes out with the mason claim. I will try to reason with them to come out themselves, better than me telling their roles. With Xnut it was just a gut feeling, like "I can't let him die and Holt lives". I dunno, same with Erinyes last game, just a gut feeling due the game introduction which turned out to be right but I was killed too early and had no support to act on it.

Better change my vote too:
Votekill Philia!

I don't see Phila making it out of this day phase alive since there's nobody more suspicious than him. There is the mason issue, but it's frankly still just speculation compared to Phila's lies.
I do agree that 1 more mason has to show himself, because it doesn't feel at all like xnut and james have other buddies..

First James seems to hint that Gry is a mason. Sometime after that, Gry comes online and says one mason should come out. Gry doesn't come out himself. So Gry isn't a mason and James is doing something really weird? Or Gry is a mafia mason and doesn't want to come out as mason? Or what? Ireally don't know what to read into this. It is just really weird.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

If was locked

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Clearly those 2 are Mafia

 

[Hakuteiken]

First James seems to hint that Gry is a mason. Sometime after that, Gry comes online and says one mason should come out. Gry doesn't come out himself. So Gry isn't a mason and James is doing something really weird? Or Gry is a mafia mason and doesn't want to come out as mason? Or what? Ireally don't know what to read into this. It is just really weird.

What is the hint towards Gry being a Mason, I might have missed that.
There isn't much reason for Mafia Mason to not want to come out if the four Mason group is a real thing, no?

 

[Zasz]

Oh, Utsune.
Guess it couldn't be helped...
Anyway I don't understand the reason why James is being suspected right now....
If anything Xnut should be voted for all the Mason arguements put forward by all of you.

 

[Hakuteiken]

If there are Masons and there is a Mafia Mason, it is either xnut or James, because there is no point in Mafia Mason to not come out and be confirmed by three other Townies that he is a Townie.
So, that leaves two different scenarios here for me, because I'm not going to consider four Townie Masons as a likely option. It just doesn't make any sense.

a) This is all a clown fiesta and the Masons thing is a huge lie, potentially a second Mafia camp or third party.
b) They are indeed Masons and one of them is a Mafia Mason.

 

[Erinyes]

xnut and james are way too weird, too

suspect at least one of them being a mafia, or something else.


Votekill xnut, may change later my vote depending on any new infos

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

When will this enudo

 

[Hakuteiken]

In two hours.
I might change my vote to xnut myself, although the whole xnut seemingly being more important thing could also be James' thinking to gain credibility amongst not only everyone else, but also amongst fellow Masons who would no longer question his identity.

 

[Riku]

What is the hint towards Gry being a Mason, I might have missed that.
There isn't much reason for Mafia Mason to not want to come out if the four Mason group is a real thing, no?

I quoted James' hint post just above, but I'll quote again and underline the hint parts.

Wow, lots of pages, thank god I came back online before going to bed. Have to wake up in 6 hours and then work for 12 hours...

So Utsune was insane doc and the one who killed our Detective? Plus Panda confirmed Utsune's role? Meaning the Mafia Boss was probably either killed by 2nd Mafia (since 2nd Mafia is always blue I consider them to be in the blue group and first mafia in the red group) or by third party. Well, guess he wanted to save Holt because of Holt's hint then.



Chill, bro, chill. We two are masons and so are two more of us. I still won't tell you or Gry their names as that would reduce the pool of potential targets for Mafia too much. Happy now?^^



Nope, back online. Hi Gry.



Yeah, this gonna be fun. Each night will be a coin toss. xD

If some dets have checked me out last night or will investigate me this night, then I don't mind dieing much. After all, that will help our remaining dets to see what kinda sanity they might have. Plus it will prove Xnut and any of the rest who comes out with the mason claim. I will try to reason with them to come out themselves, better than me telling their roles. With Xnut it was just a gut feeling, like "I can't let him die and Holt lives". I dunno, same with Erinyes last game, just a gut feeling due the game introduction which turned out to be right but I was killed too early and had no support to act on it.

Better change my vote too:
Votekill Philia!

 

[Hakuteiken]

I thought that was what you implied, as well, but how is that a hint? g01 and Gry were pressing for the other Masons to come out, Gry especially, and he said he wouldn't tell either of them (although, admittedly, I don't really understand what is the point of mentioning people selectively, since once something is written, it's seen by everyone checking the thread).

If Gry is indeed a Mason, or someone else is a Mason at that, they sure have concealed this pretty well, because I have no idea who else might be a Mason, let alone two more people.

 

[Riku]

Ah, yes. Maybe it is not a hint. I didn't remember it was Gry who had cried for more masons, so I thought pointing him out was weird.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Blue Team
1. Demonspeed (Quinn) -> ??
3. Esu Taichou (Zed) -> I don't think he was that active to meet James' "Masons are all active" criteria.
6. Hakuteiken (LeBlanc) -> An active night role, so I'm not a Mason.
7. Erinyes (Taliyah) -> Just voted for xnut, but that alone doesn't prove much.
8. Farfalla (Nami) -> ??
10. GrySun (Kassadin) -> He was asking for the other Masons to come out the hardest. Said "No regular Townie", but this could be seen in both ways, too.
11. xi0 (Graves) -> ??

VS

Red Team
12. Sheepy Turtle (Leona) -> Inactive
13. Lawlett-kun (Taric) -> Wants to be targeted. Does not seem to be a Mason-like hint.
15. Gnut (Varus) -> Well, he does not trust James or xnut, so, he can't be a Mason.
16. Ustegius (Katarina) -> Also keeps the issue up and running regarding the Masons, so, unlikely.
17. G01 (Ekko) -> He was asking about Masons himself, but that alone doesn't prove much.
18. Sugar Kitty (Riven) -> Inactive
19. Philia (Orianna) -> Claims to be Sickly Townie. Whether he is somehow telling the truth or not, it's irrelevant. He's not a Mason.
20. Zasz (Fizz) -> Mason does not really fit a useless and passive role definition.

So I'd expect Farfalla, Demon or Gary to be the remaining two Masons in this scenario. That is, if the Mason story is true.
My reasoning does not truly exclude other people from the possibilities, but I'm just trying to run my own thinking process here.

 

[Erinyes]

Haku, im not a mason.

 

[Kat]

15/17

Philia 8x (Ustegius, gnut, Demonspeed, Zasz, g01, James Rye, xnut, Farfalla)

James Rye 3x (Penalty, xi0, Hakuteiken) (Penalty for not respecting the rules)

xnut 2x (GrySun, Erinyes)

SugarKitty 2x (Penalty, Penalty) (Penalty for inactivity, Penalty for failing to vote)

Sheepy Turtle 2x (Penalty, Penalty) (Penalty for inactivity, Penalty for failing to vote)

Ēsu Taichou 1x (Penalty) (Penalty for failing to vote)

Demonspeed 1x (Ēsu Taichou)

g01 1x (lawlett-kun)

Erinyes 1x (Philia)

Time left // Day 2​

 

[Hakuteiken]

Haku, im not a mason.

Well, I didn't think you were one, to be frank. I just left the door open rather than wording it strongly like "Cannot be Mason", since I couldn't possibly be sure.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

What if gnut is a mason but is trolling his son?

 

[Philia]

Despite all happenings, Philia is still pretty certain mafia.

Okay

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This has to be the most idiotic day phase I've ever seen.

 

[Hakuteiken]

What if gnut is a mason but is trolling his son?

Yeah, well, we have no way of tracking that sort of troll attitude, of course.
I mean, in that sense, one of us could be a Mason, as well, since we have no confirmed roles, either.