Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Boomburst]

Gray's performance against Invel was better than Natsu's against Jacob.

Gray was pretty much a counter to Invel while Natsu had to hold back tremendously. The two situations aren't comparable.

 

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Gray was pretty much a counter to Invel while Natsu had to hold back tremendously. The two situations aren't comparable.

Agreed.

@Char I would also like to point out that Gildarts was not fight half a Spriggan. Historias were stated to be severely weaker than their original selves to the point that Minerva and Rogue are on par with Wall and Bloodman. Now if they were at full power, it's only logical that they would stomp Minerva and Rogue and if they were at half their original strength then it would require double the effort of a stomp which is still pretty less. Not to mention, Gildarts said that OG Serena would be on par with him and if Serena were at his half power, it would still require Gildy some effort but from the looks of it in the manga, dealing with Serena was quite easy for him. So yeah, historias are not half the power of a Spriggan.

And this proves Neinhart is even more of a fodder

 

[Woodenstool]

Agreed.

@Char I would also like to point out that Gildarts was not fight half a Spriggan. Historias were stated to be severely weaker than their original selves to the point that Minerva and Rogue are on par with Wall and Bloodman. Now if they were at full power, it's only logical that they would stomp Minerva and Rogue and if they were at half their original strength then it would require double the effort of a stomp which is still pretty less. Not to mention, Gildarts said that OG Serena would be on par with him and if Serena were at his half power, it would still require Gildy some effort but from the looks of it in the manga, dealing with Serena was quite easy for him. So yeah, historias are not half the power of a Spriggan.

And this proves Neinhart is even more of a fodder

Honestly Gildarts would destroy Serena at full power of used magic. I think when he said he wanted to see who would come out on top when you're at full power, he was talking about strength. You have to admit, Gildarts would break all his spells with ease.

 

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Perhaps, Gray can defeat Bloodman because he's a demon slayer? and has shown to freeze MPB that consists of Bradman's body and logically has attacks that are super effective on Bradman.
Just a thought.

Possible but it could also be that Bloodman possess Ice DeS traits also because he can use those attacks?

The possibility of something being right/wrong when 99% agree on it is 99% higher. So, yeah, if 99% agree on something, I may perceive it differently, but then it's 99% probable that I'm wrong, then I'm gonna have to recheck and then I'll probably see I was wrong and I'm gonna have to concede.

Don't bother .

 

[Woodenstool]

Gray was pretty much a counter to Invel while Natsu had to hold back tremendously. The two situations aren't comparable.

Natsu had to go all out while Jacobs magic, Transport isn't him going all out and that was enough to kill him.

Think about it for a sex?

 

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Honestly Gildarts would destroy Serena at full power of used magic. I think when he said he wanted to see who would come out on top when you're at full power, he was talking about strength. You have to admit, Gildarts would break all his spells with ease.

He said about Serena and I quote 'a force to be reckoned with' and 'its a real shame. I always wanted to see which one of us would come out at top when you were at your full power'

 

[Crimson Ice]

Gray was pretty much a counter to Invel while Natsu had to hold back tremendously. The two situations aren't comparable.

A counter how? Hiro didn't give Gray his slayer immunity and his regular resistance done nothing. Natsu had to hold back? Natsu only won because Happy was randomly appeared between Jacob's hands at the end and would of lost regardless of FDKM if that never happened.

 

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Natsu had to go all out while Jacobs magic, Transport isn't him going all out and that was enough to kill him.

What magic does Jacbo have that trumps his Transport?

Think about it for a sex?

Uhhhhh, what????!!!! I'm guessing that's a typo

 

[Crimson Ice]

Honestly Gildarts would destroy Serena at full power of used magic. I think when he said he wanted to see who would come out on top when you're at full power, he was talking about strength. You have to admit, Gildarts would break all his spells with ease.

Wanking Gildarts soo much you're going against what he himself said.

 

[Takuan]

Think about it for a sex?

Slip revealing? You perv.

Honestly Gildarts would destroy Serena at full power of used magic. I think when he said he wanted to see who would come out on top when you're at full power, he was talking about strength. You have to admit, Gildarts would break all his spells with ease.

I was waiting for a post like that from you xD
I think Gildartz implied that GS and him were on the same tier / same level. But he didn't know about the result of a 1v1, we can only speculate. I think these claims by Gildartz were made (i mean, created by Hiro) to make us understand that even if beating a GS Historia might be easy for Gildartz, he would still be able to fight toe-to-toe with GS and the odds would be 50/50.

In terms of feats, GS didn't show good reaction speed or speed in general. No durability either (i consider him vastly superior to GoI so him tanking their attacks is nothing special). I tend to agree with you, i think Gildartz would have won against real GS.
However i think you're having Gildartz too high in esteem (as usual), as it would definitely not be easy for him to defeat GS. It would be a great and close fight. Not a stomp, for either side.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Honestly doubting if Gildarts himself is still the top dog anymore. It's obvious he wasn't going to be the strongest forever and his performance against Serena was meh, he was actually harmed by Serena and used his only named arrack. Gray, Natsu, Gajeel, Laxus and Jellal were all more impressive to me.

 

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Honestly doubting if Gildarts himself is still the top dog anymore. It's obvious he wasn't going to be the strongest forever and his performance against Serena was meh, he was actually harmed by Serena and used his only named arrack. Gray, Natsu, Gajeel, Laxus and Jellal were all more impressive to me.

By feats yes but by portrayal and hype Gildarts is still the top dog :/

 

[Woodenstool]

Slip revealing? You perv.


I was waiting for a post like that from you xD
I think Gildartz implied that GS and him were on the same tier / same level. But he didn't know about the result of a 1v1, we can only speculate. I think these claims by Gildartz were made (i mean, created by Hiro) to make us understand that even if beating a GS Historia might be easy for Gildartz, he would still be able to fight toe-to-toe with GS and the odds would be 50/50.

In terms of feats, GS didn't show good reaction speed or speed in general. No durability either (i consider him vastly superior to GoI so him tanking their attacks is nothing special). I tend to agree with you, i think Gildartz would have won against real GS.
However i think you're having Gildartz too high in esteem (as usual), as it would definitely not be easy for him to defeat GS. It would be a great and close fight. Not a stomp, for either side.

I guess so. But he busted a mountain with crash with ease, Serenas spells are hell of a lot smaller than Natsus.

 

[Boomburst]

A counter how? Hiro didn't give Gray his slayer immunity and his regular resistance done nothing. Natsu had to hold back? Natsu only won because Happy was randomly appeared between Jacob's hands at the end and would of lost regardless of FDKM if that never happened.

Grays regular resistance prevented him from getting frozen at the very beginning like everyone else. He was also able to utilize Ice Make to break through Invel's armor (this is my interpretation of what happened, might not be correct).

If Natsu had gone FDKM at the very beginning who knows how things might have turned out? Maybe Natsu would have blitzed Jacob before he used Transport. My point is that Natsu's fight with Jacob wasn't representative of what would actually happen in an all out battle. Keep in mind that we don't know what happens to people when they get Transported, so Natsu getting Transported doesnt necessarily mean that he just automatically loses.

 

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Grays regular resistance prevented him from getting frozen at the very beginning like everyone else. He was also able to utilize Ice Make to break through Invel's armor (this is my interpretation of what happened, might not be correct).

If Natsu had gone FDKM at the very beginning who knows how things might have turned out? Maybe Natsu would have blitzed Jacob before he used Transport. My point is that Natsu's fight with Jacob wasn't representative of what would actually happen in an all out battle. Keep in mind that we don't know what happens to people when they get Transported, so Natsu getting Transported doesnt necessarily mean that he just automatically loses.

Not to mention transport takes 3 seconds minimum and that's enough time for Natsu to go FDKM mode, make Jacob recoil from the heat and blitz him.

 

[Crimson Ice]

By feats yes but by portrayal and hype Gildarts is still the top dog :/

Not really putting all my trust in portrayal with the good guys just because if the power inflation, if that was the case I'd still be saying Erza is stronger than Natsu, Gray and Gajeel. As for hype the only hype he's got was an editor's note......And you should already know about the editor notes.

 

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I guess so. But he busted a mountain with crash with ease, Serenas spells are hell of a lot smaller than Natsus.

Smaller yet stronger than Natsu's. Also don't forget that was a heavily nerfed Serena.

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Not really putting all my trust in portrayal with the good guys just because if the power inflation, if that was the case I'd still be saying Erza is stronger than Natsu, Gray and Gajeel. As for hype the only hype he's got was an editor's note......And you should already know about the editor notes.

I think Natsu and Gray have been portrayed to be stronger than Erza since the beginning of the arc lol.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Grays regular resistance prevented him from getting frozen at the very beginning like everyone else. He was also able to utilize Ice Make to break through Invel's armor (this is my interpretation of what happened, might not be correct).

If Natsu had gone FDKM at the very beginning who knows how things might have turned out? Maybe Natsu would have blitzed Jacob before he used Transport. My point is that Natsu's fight with Jacob wasn't representative of what would actually happen in an all out battle. Keep in mind that we don't know what happens to people when they get Transported, so Natsu getting Transported doesnt necessarily mean that he just automatically loses.

Gray's resistance didn't help him against any of Invel's projectiles while I don't even know how you can interior that scene line that when Gray's hand was getting frozen........Gray took the qualities to Invel's ice and molded it into some gauntlets and the move's name is Ice Devil's Zero Desturction Fist......He was using Devil Slaying magic.

Natsu was holding back the power of his moves not his speed. Natsu loses if Jacob uses transport. Transport is a BFR which means Natsu loses just from being BFRed.

 

[Woodenstool]

Smaller yet stronger than Natsu's. Also don't forget that was a heavily nerfed Serena.

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I think Natsu and Gray have been portrayed to be stronger than Erza since the beginning of the arc lol.

I like to think otherwise, Erza is really strong. Maybe she's fighting fodder with Gildarts because plot and how strong she is????

 

[Crimson Ice]

Smaller yet stronger than Natsu's. Also don't forget that was a heavily nerfed Serena.

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I think Natsu and Gray have been portrayed to be stronger than Erza since the beginning of the arc lol.

I dunno about that.

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I like to think otherwise, Erza is really strong. Maybe she's fighting fodder with Gildarts because plot and how strong she is????

No, she can't even beat Ajeel by herself.