I think not, Gildarts blitzed Bluenotestinger and Byro. His fight with God Serena could've ended from the start, if you notice, Gildarts slammed his face with God Serenas instantly. Gildarts has speed, strength, he isn't a person to downgrade.
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There was no after image, which is common enough for Speed Blitzers. He caught Bluenote by surprise that time with his speed. Yes he was much faster than BN, but in essense, Fairy Tail doesn't have any real speed blitzers. I'm not trying to downgrade Gildarts, I'm just saying that he's not as fast as you're making him out to be
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If you want speed, I'd say that Erza and Jellal, maybe Laxus, are the fastest
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There was no after image, which is common enough for Speed Blitzers. He caught Bluenote by surprise that time with his speed. Yes he was much faster than BN, but in essense, Fairy Tail doesn't have any real speed blitzers. I'm not trying to downgrade Gildarts, I'm just saying that he's not as fast as you're making him out to be
No speed blitzers? Don't you remember what happened to God Serena? Acnologia went on some might guy shit, and Acnologia was like 10 feet away after that attack.
No speed blitzers? Don't you remember what happened to God Serena? Acnologia went on some might guy shit, and Acnologia was like 10 feet away after that attack.
That's true. Acno totally blitzed him there, but generally, speed blitzers are notably faster then the other characters. Take ichigo for example. He, along with half the other bleach characters run around at insane speeds all the time with no effort. Gildarts hasn't really done much in the way of impressive speed feats. He's a powerhouse
That's true. Acno totally blitzed him there, but generally, speed blitzers are notably faster then the other characters. Take ichigo for example. He, along with half the other bleach characters run around at insane speeds all the time with no effort. Gildarts hasn't really done much in the way of impressive speed feats. He's a powerhouse
That's the thing though. You're trying to paint Gildarts as having hax speed. Hell, speed isn't even what he's well known for. He's known for his "hax" Damage Dealing magic and sheer AOE
That's the thing though. You're trying to paint Gildarts as having hax speed. Hell, speed isn't even what he's well known for. He's known for his "hax" Damage Dealing magic and sheer AOE
That's the thing though. You're trying to paint Gildarts as having hax speed. Hell, speed isn't even what he's well known for. He's known for his "hax" Damage Dealing magic and sheer AOE
I didn't say he wasn't
All I said was I don't really see why you're trying to say he's the fastest, or even close to the fastest, when he's clearly one of the very strongest instead
I didn't say he wasn't
All I said was I don't really see why you're trying to say he's the fastest, or even close to the fastest, when he's clearly one of the very strongest instead
It's a shame we didn't get to see God Serena's full power.Gildarts hyped him and he himself was not sure if he and full powered God Serena clashed who would win.Seeing how a nerfed version of God Serena could injure Gildarts full powered God Serena might have defeated him.
Huh just stop it... Glidartz is not the second fastest in the series unless proven otherwise in the series. Forget about ice trail and forget about Byro who wasn't even canon... A lot of characters are FTE, like DF Wendy; and DF Wendy is weakass (by spriggan standards), she wouldn't even make it to spriggan lackey probably. Or barely.
It hurts me, a fan of Glidartz's, when people downgrade him; but it also hurts me when people baselessly attribute feats to him that he most likely does not possess. FTE for fodders in a spinoff does NOT equate to good speed in the current arc.
Neither Erza is faster than Natsu, neither Natsu is slow, neither Glidartz is the second fastest character or third strongest; August and/or Irene would beat the hell out of him by hype. You need to learn to analyze things like that in the manga. It's clear that Natsu is at least as fast as Erza, if not faster. Maybe there's not a panel which clearly says "Natsu is faster than Erza" or a panel which says "Wow that was mach 1248" or something like that; but yeah, this is why you need to understand how to get tacit things.
God Serena and Glidartz are on the same level, meaning one of them would win, but very close, in an extreme diff fight. If Glidartz managed to beat him, which may be, he would be severely injured and he wouldn't even be able to walk after the battle.
And yeah, face it: Natsu is dangerously close to Glidartz. And I'm talking about BASE Natsu. Also Gray. Natsu and Gray have surpassed Erza now, it's just a fact. Erza may get bloodlusted and solo a spriggan with similar ease than Gray but since she hasn't proven so just yet, Natsu and Gray are stronger than her.
As a matter of fact I'd dare say the difference between Natsu, Gray, Laxus and Glidartz is only marginal now.
Huh just stop it... Glidartz is not the second fastest in the series unless proven otherwise in the series. Forget about ice trail and forget about Byro who wasn't even canon... A lot of characters are FTE, like DF Wendy; and DF Wendy is weakass (by spriggan standards), she wouldn't even make it to spriggan lackey probably. Or barely.
It hurts me, a fan of Glidartz's, when people downgrade him; but it also hurts me when people baselessly attribute feats to him that he most likely does not possess. FTE for fodders in a spinoff does NOT equate to good speed in the current arc.
Neither Erza is faster than Natsu, neither Natsu is slow, neither Glidartz is the second fastest character or third strongest; August and/or Irene would beat the hell out of him by hype. You need to learn to analyze things like that in the manga. It's clear that Natsu is at least as fast as Erza, if not faster. Maybe there's not a panel which clearly says "Natsu is faster than Erza" or a panel which says "Wow that was mach 1248" or something like that; but yeah, this is why you need to understand how to get tacit things.
God Serena and Glidartz are on the same level, meaning one of them would win, but very close, in an extreme diff fight. If Glidartz managed to beat him, which may be, he would be severely injured and he wouldn't even be able to walk after the battle.
And yeah, face it: Natsu is dangerously close to Glidartz. And I'm talking about BASE Natsu. Also Gray. Natsu and Gray have surpassed Erza now, it's just a fact. Erza may get bloodlusted and solo a spriggan with similar ease than Gray but since she hasn't proven so just yet, Natsu and Gray are stronger than her.
As a matter of fact I'd dare say the difference between Natsu, Gray, Laxus and Glidartz is only marginal now.
You provide no proof for your entire post, I'll take this as a troll. Ice trail is cannon whether you like it or not.
DRAGON FORCE WENDY is fast, not base form. Gildarts move like that casually. He dodged lasers that move at light speed while holding gray. And no, Natsu isn't close to Gildarts. Just because he has large AOE, it means jack shit if Gildarts blitz him and starts throwing mountain busting punches faster than he can react.
"poof speed" is not reliable proof anymore, so you don't really provide evidence as well. No I'm not a troll, trolls usually have more posts than likes so that may apply for you though.
You need to understand FTE to fodders in a spin-off is not too reliable a feat. Especially not anymore, we are in a saga where poof speed means nothing, pretty much any spriggan can keep up with characters that show "poof speed" (FTE), like DF Wendy.
It's hard to say. First of all, even if cannon, it is a spin-off; Glidartz hasn't shown FTE speed in the manga.
You don't get the point: of course Glidartz is faster than the eye (of a human); so are Natsu, Gray, Erza, DF Wendy, heck probably even Lucy, because we're in an arc in which if you're not FTE, then you're Droy, and the likes of Droy are not doing too well in this war, are they?
Ice Trail showed us FTE speed for fodder mages. That is to say, from the perspective of fodder mages, Glidartz was too fast to track him. Average mages can probably keep up with his speed and top-end mages can likely beat him in speed. Heck Glidartz isn't even known for having great speed, he's known for DC and AoE.
I'm gonna be as respectful as I can: you're bullshitting, right? No such thing as light speed attacks in this manga, not even from top tiers, let alone fodder. There's no-one who's even close to 1% speed of light (Mach 8,810.2).
I'm not gonna laugh at you like I used to or use gifs because I "kind of respect you" since you're making more sound posts as of late (I recall when 10 out of 10 of your posts were utter bullshit, now only 8/10 are), but don't tempt me because I'm prone to.
Yes, he is. Natsu can now casually two-shot an enhanced spriggan whereas Glidartz had to use a named attack and suffered some damage from LESS than half a spriggan. Historias are not even 30% of a spriggan. God Serena is a strong spriggan and Neinheart is weak, but still an enhanced Neinheart should be well above less than half a God Serena (proven by how Brandish couldn't even use magic on Neinheart) which means that, feat-wise, base Natsu is currently above Glidartz.Let me be clear on this: I don't like it either. But regarding the ease with which either of them can take out a spriggan, Natsu has shown more ease than Glidartz has. Even bloodlusted Gray managed to beat a full-fledged Spriggan rather comfortably. I'm not denying the possibility that Glidartz could, but being logical, he hasn't showcased such a feat and he lives up to his hype (the statement that he could fight toe to toe with God Serena).
What do you mean by AoE? Just let me be clear:
- Glidartz is NOT blitzing the likes of God Serena, Natsu or Gray anymore.
- Glidartz hasn't proven that he's capable of landing multiple mountain busting punches.
- He may still be the strongest member in Fairy Tail but he lives up to hype; he hasn't proven anything really significant yet unlike Natsu or Gray who can beat spriggans now, Glidartz hasn't beaten any spriggan just yet, he's claimed he could fight one but he still hasn't.
- Glidartz is a big "?" of yet. We don't know nor can conjecture whether he's borderline spriggan level, low, mid, high or top tier spriggan level. He may not even be capable to take out jacob/Ajeel OR he may be capable of defeating Irene/August for all we know.
I know you like Glidartz I really do. And I know that for you, the "pof speed feat" is significant. But on a larger scale, accounting for real feats, that particular one is not relevant anymore. PoF speed, yes, in regards to what? Fodders. When? 15 years ago. Not even Tenrou characters can compare to current characters, let alone pre-Tenrou. Current Droy may factually be above Tenrou Erza. X791 Max > Tenrou Natsu; do you know what that implies? Current Natsu >>>> Makarov, but Makarov > GMG Natsu. Just understand power growth for god's sake!
So my top 15 taking into account only Ishgar and Spriggans would be:
1. Zeref Dragneel - Obvious
2. Igneel-powered Natsu - Dubious, might be below August, Irene, Mari or Randi depending on their hax.
3. August - Obvious
4. Irene Belserion - Obvious
5. Chronos Dimaria Yesta - Too haxy a spriggan, definetely above his not top end peers. Didn't include Larcade, I wanna see more of him before.
6. Brandish - Can instakill
7. Natsu - Sadly, but yeah, he can casually twoshot a spriggan now. He ain't beating Brandish though.
8. God Serena - Probably strongest high-end spriggan without hax
9. Glidartz - Said to be able to go toe to toe against God Serena.
10. Laxus Dreyar / DF Gajeel - Below Glidartz, but still quite high up there
11. Gray (very serious/angry) - Here, or even maybe with Laxus and DF Gajeel, when bloodlusted
12. Bradman / Jellal Fernandes - I consider Bradman a higher end spriggan than the ones down below.
13. Invel / Ajeel / Jacob / Wahl - Although Jellal could be here too
14. Mira / Erza - Obvious
15. Neinheart - Weakass, but still relevant
"poof speed" is not reliable proof anymore, so you don't really provide evidence as well. No I'm not a troll, trolls usually have more posts than likes so that may apply for you though.
You need to understand FTE to fodders in a spin-off is not too reliable a feat. Especially not anymore, we are in a saga where poof speed means nothing, pretty much any spriggan can keep up with characters that show "poof speed" (FTE), like DF Wendy.
Correct, but she's not fast enough to compete with the likes of Natsu, Erza or the spriggans.
It's hard to say. First of all, even if cannon, it is a spin-off; Glidartz hasn't shown FTE speed in the manga.
You don't get the point: of course Glidartz is faster than the eye (of a human); so are Natsu, Gray, Erza, DF Wendy, heck probably even Lucy, because we're in an arc in which if you're not FTE, then you're Droy, and the likes of Droy are not doing too well in this war, are they?
Ice Trail showed us FTE speed for fodder mages. That is to say, from the perspective of fodder mages, Glidartz was too fast to track him. Average mages can probably keep up with his speed and top-end mages can likely beat him in speed. Heck Glidartz isn't even known for having great speed, he's known for DC and AoE.
I'm gonna be as respectful as I can: you're bullshitting, right? No such thing as light speed attacks in this manga, not even from top tiers, let alone fodder. There's no-one who's even close to 1% speed of light (Mach 8,810.2).
I'm not gonna laugh at you like I used to or use gifs because I "kind of respect you" since you're making more sound posts as of late (I recall when 10 out of 10 of your posts were utter bullshit, now only 8/10 are), but don't tempt me because I'm prone to.
Yes, he is. Natsu can now casually two-shot an enhanced spriggan whereas Glidartz had to use a named attack and suffered some damage from LESS than half a spriggan. Historias are not even 30% of a spriggan. God Serena is a strong spriggan and Neinheart is weak, but still an enhanced Neinheart should be well above less than half a God Serena (proven by how Brandish couldn't even use magic on Neinheart) which means that, feat-wise, base Natsu is currently above Glidartz.Let me be clear on this: I don't like it either. But regarding the ease with which either of them can take out a spriggan, Natsu has shown more ease than Glidartz has. Even bloodlusted Gray managed to beat a full-fledged Spriggan rather comfortably. I'm not denying the possibility that Glidartz could, but being logical, he hasn't showcased such a feat and he lives up to his hype (the statement that he could fight toe to toe with God Serena).
What do you mean by AoE? Just let me be clear:
- Glidartz is NOT blitzing the likes of God Serena, Natsu or Gray anymore.
- Glidartz hasn't proven that he's capable of landing multiple mountain busting punches.
- He may still be the strongest member in Fairy Tail but he lives up to hype; he hasn't proven anything really significant yet unlike Natsu or Gray who can beat spriggans now, Glidartz hasn't beaten any spriggan just yet, he's claimed he could fight one but he still hasn't.
- Glidartz is a big "?" of yet. We don't know nor can conjecture whether he's borderline spriggan level, low, mid, high or top tier spriggan level. He may not even be capable to take out jacob/Ajeel OR he may be capable of defeating Irene/August for all we know.
I know you like Glidartz I really do. And I know that for you, the "pof speed feat" is significant. But on a larger scale, accounting for real feats, that particular one is not relevant anymore. PoF speed, yes, in regards to what? Fodders. When? 15 years ago. Not even Tenrou characters can compare to current characters, let alone pre-Tenrou. Current Droy may factually be above Tenrou Erza. X791 Max > Tenrou Natsu; do you know what that implies? Current Natsu >>>> Makarov, but Makarov > GMG Natsu. Just understand power growth for god's sake!
Well base Natsu is definitely not above Gildarts. Keep in mind Irene only enhanced Neinhart's magic power, not his durability and we know his durability is shit since both Natsu and Jellal used their low tier moves to take him down in a single shot.
Also fair ranking but why is Bradman so low? He was only beaten due to plot armour and DF not to mention he has numerous haxxes in his disposal. And I would rank Brandish lower to since it seems she has an OP magic but we haven't seen any impressive feat of overall combat skill/ability.
"poof speed" is not reliable proof anymore, so you don't really provide evidence as well. No I'm not a troll, trolls usually have more posts than likes so that may apply for you though.
You need to understand FTE to fodders in a spin-off is not too reliable a feat. Especially not anymore, we are in a saga where poof speed means nothing, pretty much any spriggan can keep up with characters that show "poof speed" (FTE), like DF Wendy.
Correct, but she's not fast enough to compete with the likes of Natsu, Erza or the spriggans.
It's hard to say. First of all, even if cannon, it is a spin-off; Glidartz hasn't shown FTE speed in the manga.
You don't get the point: of course Glidartz is faster than the eye (of a human); so are Natsu, Gray, Erza, DF Wendy, heck probably even Lucy, because we're in an arc in which if you're not FTE, then you're Droy, and the likes of Droy are not doing too well in this war, are they?
Ice Trail showed us FTE speed for fodder mages. That is to say, from the perspective of fodder mages, Glidartz was too fast to track him. Average mages can probably keep up with his speed and top-end mages can likely beat him in speed. Heck Glidartz isn't even known for having great speed, he's known for DC and AoE.
I'm gonna be as respectful as I can: you're bullshitting, right? No such thing as light speed attacks in this manga, not even from top tiers, let alone fodder. There's no-one who's even close to 1% speed of light (Mach 8,810.2).
I'm not gonna laugh at you like I used to or use gifs because I "kind of respect you" since you're making more sound posts as of late (I recall when 10 out of 10 of your posts were utter bullshit, now only 8/10 are), but don't tempt me because I'm prone to.
Yes, he is. Natsu can now casually two-shot an enhanced spriggan whereas Glidartz had to use a named attack and suffered some damage from LESS than half a spriggan. Historias are not even 30% of a spriggan. God Serena is a strong spriggan and Neinheart is weak, but still an enhanced Neinheart should be well above less than half a God Serena (proven by how Brandish couldn't even use magic on Neinheart) which means that, feat-wise, base Natsu is currently above Glidartz.Let me be clear on this: I don't like it either. But regarding the ease with which either of them can take out a spriggan, Natsu has shown more ease than Glidartz has. Even bloodlusted Gray managed to beat a full-fledged Spriggan rather comfortably. I'm not denying the possibility that Glidartz could, but being logical, he hasn't showcased such a feat and he lives up to his hype (the statement that he could fight toe to toe with God Serena).
What do you mean by AoE? Just let me be clear:
- Glidartz is NOT blitzing the likes of God Serena, Natsu or Gray anymore.
- Glidartz hasn't proven that he's capable of landing multiple mountain busting punches.
- He may still be the strongest member in Fairy Tail but he lives up to hype; he hasn't proven anything really significant yet unlike Natsu or Gray who can beat spriggans now, Glidartz hasn't beaten any spriggan just yet, he's claimed he could fight one but he still hasn't.
- Glidartz is a big "?" of yet. We don't know nor can conjecture whether he's borderline spriggan level, low, mid, high or top tier spriggan level. He may not even be capable to take out jacob/Ajeel OR he may be capable of defeating Irene/August for all we know.
I know you like Glidartz I really do. And I know that for you, the "pof speed feat" is significant. But on a larger scale, accounting for real feats, that particular one is not relevant anymore. PoF speed, yes, in regards to what? Fodders. When? 15 years ago. Not even Tenrou characters can compare to current characters, let alone pre-Tenrou. Current Droy may factually be above Tenrou Erza. X791 Max > Tenrou Natsu; do you know what that implies? Current Natsu >>>> Makarov, but Makarov > GMG Natsu. Just understand power growth for god's sake!
So my top 15 taking into account only Ishgar and Spriggans would be:
1. Zeref Dragneel - Obvious
2. Igneel-powered Natsu - Dubious, might be below August, Irene, Mari or Randi depending on their hax.
3. August - Obvious
4. Irene Belserion - Obvious
5. Chronos Dimaria Yesta - Too haxy a spriggan, definetely above his not top end peers. Didn't include Larcade, I wanna see more of him before.
6. Brandish - Can instakill
7. Natsu - Sadly, but yeah, he can casually twoshot a spriggan now. He ain't beating Brandish though.
8. God Serena - Probably strongest high-end spriggan without hax
9. Glidartz - Said to be able to go toe to toe against God Serena.
10. Laxus Dreyar / DF Gajeel - Below Glidartz, but still quite high up there
11. Gray (very serious/angry) - Here, or even maybe with Laxus and DF Gajeel, when bloodlusted
12. Bradman / Jellal Fernandes - I consider Bradman a higher end spriggan than the ones down below.
13. Invel / Ajeel / Jacob / Wahl - Although Jellal could be here too
14. Mira / Erza - Obvious
15. Neinheart - Weakass, but still relevant
Gildarts could've ended God Serena from the start of the fight. He slammed his head with his instantaneously. Natsu isn't capable of reacting to that speed, there's no proof. Erza is leagues ahead of Natsu in speed and strength and just overall skill.
Has Natsu ever throw 13 punches with one arm instantaneously? Gildarts vanished in a casual mindset, watch the bluenote fight, Gildarts got serious and melted him, he punched him so fast we only seen Gildarts hand under his jaw.
Show me scans of Natsu being fast. FDK roar can be destroyed with crash. That spell isn't mountain level and Gildarts busted one casually.
Combine Gildarts speed, strength and ability negate all forms of magic and he would stomp all the Spriggans. You expect Hiro to have Gildarts one shot God Serena with a spell? He waned to show Gildarts power I'm assuming. Neinhart is weak, Lucy could've taken him out if she went all out.
You're giving me a headache, Gildarts destroyed a mountain without even trying. He can do hell of a lot more damage if he's serious. The guy can move at insane speeds, break magic, and bust mountains with ease.
We have never seen Gildarts go all out, that isn't the case with Natsu.
So my top 15 taking into account only Ishgar and Spriggans would be:
1. Zeref Dragneel - Obvious
2. Igneel-powered Natsu - Dubious, might be below August, Irene, Mari or Randi depending on their hax.
3. August - Obvious
4. Irene Belserion - Obvious
5. Chronos Dimaria Yesta - Too haxy a spriggan, definetely above his not top end peers. Didn't include Larcade, I wanna see more of him before.
6. Brandish - Can instakill
7. Natsu - Sadly, but yeah, he can casually twoshot a spriggan now. He ain't beating Brandish though.
8. God Serena - Probably strongest high-end spriggan without hax
9. Glidartz - Said to be able to go toe to toe against God Serena.
10. Laxus Dreyar / DF Gajeel - Below Glidartz, but still quite high up there
11. Gray (very serious/angry) - Here, or even maybe with Laxus and DF Gajeel, when bloodlusted
12. Bradman / Jellal Fernandes - I consider Bradman a higher end spriggan than the ones down below.
13. Invel / Ajeel / Jacob / Wahl - Although Jellal could be here too
14. Mira / Erza - Obvious
15. Neinheart - Weakass, but still relevant
I agree at 95% with your list. I like the fact that you didn't include Larcade. I see a lot of people ranking him as the 3rd Spriggan, when we almost saw nothing from him.
Yeah, i like your list a lot tbh.
I just have a question, because this is the only thing i disagree with. Why do you put DF Gajeel tied with Laxus?
I love Laxus, but i'm not a fanboy (i swear). Nor am i against Gajeel, i like him a lot as well.
But if i have to be honest, i feel like Gajeel didn't deliver so far. He's powerful and all, but i didn't see a significant improvement from him (same goes for Erza).
I'm not even sure the new form he acquired during his fight versus Bradman was indeed DF. I saw it differently than most, imo it wasn't.
Now i could understand your placement for Gajeel, tied with Laxus, since you put Bradman higher than Wahl. So beating Bradman is more impressive than beating Wahl. I agree with that.
But Gajeel beat Bradman with quite a high diff - especially considering the fact that he was supposed to die.
Whereas Laxus - and i'm talking about a full fledged Laxus, not a diminished ill as f*ck Laxus like the one who fought wahl for 90% of the fight - beat Wahl pretty easily.
So to summarize, imo beating Bradman was indeed impressive but overall i consider Laxus still higher than DF Gajeel.
In your list i would actually switch DF Gajeel (i still hesitate while typing DF..) with Gray. Providing he can actually reproduce his feats without needing Juvia to die again, ofc.
Gildarts could've ended God Serena from the start of the fight. He slammed his head with his instantaneously. Natsu isn't capable of reacting to that speed, there's no proof. Erza is leagues ahead of Natsu in speed and strength and just overall skill.
Has Natsu ever throw 13 punches with one arm instantaneously? Gildarts vanished in a casual mindset, watch the bluenote fight, Gildarts got serious and melted him, he punched him so fast we only seen Gildarts hand under his jaw.
Show me scans of Natsu being fast. FDK roar can be destroyed with crash. That spell isn't mountain level and Gildarts busted one casually.
Combine Gildarts speed, strength and ability negate all forms of magic and he would stomp all the Spriggans. You expect Hiro to have Gildarts one shot God Serena with a spell? He waned to show Gildarts power I'm assuming. Neinhart is weak, Lucy could've taken him out if she went all out.
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You're giving me a headache, Gildarts destroyed a mountain without even trying. He can do hell of a lot more damage if he's serious. The guy can move at insane speeds, break magic, and bust mountains with ease.
We have never seen Gildarts go all out, that isn't the case with Natsu.
woodenstool are you little biased? and hungry for Gildarts D--- ? no offense but Gildarts is not one-shotting Natsu or God Serena hes not par Acnologia that is fact..
He slammed his head with his instantaneously. Natsu isn't capable of reacting to that speed, there's no proof. Erza is leagues ahead of Natsu in speed and strength and just overall skill.
Has Natsu ever throw 13 punches with one arm instantaneously? Gildarts vanished in a casual mindset, watch the bluenote fight, Gildarts got serious and melted him, he punched him so fast we only seen Gildarts hand under his jaw.
Stop it, the Glidartz you hype so much for throwing 13 punches very fast is the same Glidartz that couldn't one shot or easy diff Bluenote. Natsu ONE SHOT Bluenote.
I'll only provide scans for things that are not self-evident. Crash must have its limitations otherwise it may defeat Acnologia. All magic has limitations in Fairy Tail.
We don't know, nor have any evidence to say so. Glidartz feats from Ice Trail are not relevant, anyone could currently replicate it. They are super fast from the point of view of FODDER.
You expect Hiro to have Gildarts one shot God Serena with a spell? He waned to show Gildarts power I'm assuming. Neinhart is weak, Lucy could've taken him out if she went all out.
No, no no... just knock it off already. Glidartz is not as powerful as you make him out to be, sorry, Mashima does not intend it this way. If he can easily defeat August I'll concede but he clearly was put at spriggan level ONLY.
I feel like DF Gajeel's power against Bradman could be compared to moreorless what Laxus could do, but then again, I don't recall if DF Gajeel beat Bradman with ease. I think he did, didn't he?. But then, Laxus fought with a major disadvantage and still beat a spriggan. I honestly don't know, maybe Laxus would be above but not by one solid tier. DF Gajeel is the DF version of an already very powerful character in base, so yeah. But you have a point.
TBH I recall DF Gajeel doing as good against Bradman as Gray against Invel, but I don't recall much
woodenstool are you little biased? and hungry for Gildarts D--- ? no offense but Gildarts is not one-shotting Natsu or God Serena hes not par Acnologia that is fact..
Not biased, Gildarts has better feats. If Natsu was capable of doing the same I would still put him lower. Why? Gildarts can literally destroy all of Natsus spells, did you forget that?
Everything has a limit, if Gildarts casually busted one, he can sure as hell do things on a larger scale.
Then why did Glidartz have scratches? It's clear off panel there was a fight and Glidartz received damage.
You're just wrong. Base Natsu classes on a different league to Erza's: Natsu can twoshot spriggans, Erza can't. He should be one solid tier above.
Stop it, the Glidartz you hype so much for throwing 13 punches very fast is the same Glidartz that couldn't one shot or easy diff Bluenote. Natsu ONE SHOT Bluenote.
I'll only provide scans for things that are not self-evident. Crash must have its limitations otherwise it may defeat Acnologia. All magic has limitations in Fairy Tail.
We don't know, nor have any evidence to say so. Glidartz feats from Ice Trail are not relevant, anyone could currently replicate it. They are super fast from the point of view of FODDER.
No, no no... just knock it off already. Glidartz is not as powerful as you make him out to be, sorry, Mashima does not intend it this way. If he can easily defeat August I'll concede but he clearly was put at spriggan level ONLY.
I feel like DF Gajeel's power against Bradman could be compared to moreorless what Laxus could do, but then again, I don't recall if DF Gajeel beat Bradman with ease. I think he did, didn't he?. But then, Laxus fought with a major disadvantage and still beat a spriggan. I honestly don't know, maybe Laxus would be above but not by one solid tier. DF Gajeel is the DF version of an already very powerful character in base, so yeah. But you have a point.
TBH I recall DF Gajeel doing as good against Bradman as Gray against Invel, but I don't recall much
