Team Spriggan Team Battle

[Asorx]

Yeah, but Brandish said that because of Enhanced Neinhart's MP, her mass manipulation wouldn't work because her MP was lower than Enhanced Neinhart's MP.

No, she doesn't mention MP.

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Maybe that's for defensive purposes. Like shrinking a wound or healing somebody.

But in terms of enlarging attacks and spells, she might not be able to handle it because that costs a lot more MP.

Idk, I'm not saying it's impossible, but so far, Brandish has been extremely underwhelming.

Brandish can't shrink only organs in this treat. Still that hax is real and all spriggan members have the same amount of mp. (Expect Eileen, August, Larcade)

 

[Nemispelled]

No, she doesn't mention MP.

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Well, based from what I interpreted, Irene enhanced Neinhart's MP.

So Brandish saying that he is enhanced that much is referring to his magical power since everybody could feel how much stronger he got internally.

Again, idk, but until Brandish shows more feats, she is a pretty low ranked Spriggan imo.

 

[Asorx]

Well, based from what I interpreted, Irene enhanced Neinhart's MP.

So Brandish saying that he is enhanced that much is referring to his magical power since everybody could feel how much stronger he got internally.

Again, idk, but until Brandish shows more feats, she is a pretty low ranked Spriggan imo.

For me enhanced mean "enhanced" not boosted mp. Brandish too "enchant" organs, wounds etc. like Elieen and then if Nineheart is enchanted so much then Brandi can't use her magic on him. I interpreted like this but i could be wrong ;/

 

[Ebony Maw]

Ok against Bradman and Wahl i can change my vote to high diff but still Brandi and Gody win.

Fair enough, tbh difficulty was the only thing I majorly disagreed with. BradWahl and Branderena have a 50/50 chance IMO, the others just can't compete with their power and hax.

 

[Stormsfury]

Brandish and God Serena just because of Serena

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I noticed a lot people saying Brandish can enlarge God Serena's attacks to make it more powerful...

But Brandish herself said she couldn't do anything against Enhanced Neinhart, who I believe, is far weaker than God Serena.

Natsu two-shotted Neinhart, but he had a bit of trouble against Historia God Serena.

There is a major difference between manipulating a character and manipulating their attacks...

Brandish was trying to resize Neinhart himself to prevent him from interfering with Natsu and Lucy. That is why she couldn't do it... Because Neinhart had too much MP.

On the other hand, resizing attacks like Aqua Metria isn't that hard because one attack is only a portion of a character's total MP. So your point is invalid here.

 

[**Silver**]

Brandish can Shrink all this spells from him and God Serena beat Bradman. As for Wahl she too Shrink all his atacks and make herself bigger and smash. Low or mid diff for Brandish and God Serena.

God Serena can easy negate it with Fire Dragon Slayer magic. As for him best "Amor" Brandish can Shrink this armor and Invel will die in this.
Brandish and Serena > Invel and Jackob
mid diff
So Brandish and God Serena beat them all with mid diff.

How Serena can win against Invel or negate his Freezing ??? God Serena doesent have Ice slaying magic.... and Natsus regular Flames is stronger than Serenas...

 

[Nemispelled]

There is a major difference between manipulating a character and manipulating their attacks...

Brandish was trying to resize Neinhart himself to prevent him from interfering with Natsu and Lucy. That is why she couldn't do it... Because Neinhart had too much MP.

On the other hand, resizing attacks like Aqua Metria isn't that hard because one attack is only a portion of a character's total MP. So your point is invalid here.

God Serena's attacks should be stronger than Enhanced Neinhart's body...

God Serena using Purgatory DS spell on Enhanced Neinhart and killing him would prove that.

Idk, Brandish's skills and abilities are a mess right now. I wouldn't hype her up too much.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

God Serena's attacks should be stronger than Enhanced Neinhart's body...

God Serena using Purgatory DS spell on Enhanced Neinhart and killing him would prove that.

Idk, Brandish's skills and abilities are a mess right now. I wouldn't hype her up too much.

No... Where did you get that from?

Neinhart was a fodder against Natsu because of his low durability. Similarly, God Serena is strong because of his high attack power. Although MP does play a factor in Attack and Defense, it isn't equal to it.

The fact is that it was proven Neinhart's MP was higher than an average Spriggan. Brandish's magic had no effect on his body. With that said, God Serena's individual attacks isn't even coming close to being equal to Neinhart's MP. That is absurd...

Now, if you're make the claim that God Serena overall has more MP than Enhanced Neinhart, then I would agree.

 

[Asorx]

How Serena can win against Invel or negate his Freezing ??? God Serena doesent have Ice slaying magic.... and Natsus regular Flames is stronger than Serenas...

Look at this armor.

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Ice rending divine raiment only work when you atack in combat but Brandish can shrink this armor in distance and then Invel will be ded. As for his range atacks God Serena can couter with Fire dragon slayer magic.

 

[Nemispelled]

No... Where did you get that from?

Neinhart was a fodder against Natsu because of his low durability. Similarly, God Serena is strong because of his high attack power. Although MP does play a factor in Attack and Defense, it isn't equal to it.

The fact is that it was proven Neinhart's MP was higher than an average Spriggan. Brandish's magic had no effect on his body. With that said, God Serena's individual attacks isn't even coming close to being equal to Neinhart's MP. That is absurd...

Now, if you're make the claim that God Serena overall has more MP than Enhanced Neinhart, then I would agree.

Well, if God Serena's spells can kill/defeat Neinhart, then I don't see how Neinhart's body has a lot of MP in it.

Brandish wasn't just trying to shrink/enlarge Neinhart's body, she was literally worried about his mere presence.

She was shocked and caught off guard. If she could have fought back, she should have done it imo... or at least acknowledge that she could.

But the way Brandish's feats are, it's difficult to say she can manipulate God Serena's magic that much...

 

[Asorx]

Brandish and God Serena just because of Serena

Serena solo will lose against all of them without Brandish.This comment is simply an insult, because you do not like her.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Well, if God Serena's spells can kill/defeat Neinhart, then I don't see how Neinhart's body has a lot of MP in it.

Brandish wasn't just trying to shrink/enlarge Neinhart's body, she was literally worried about his mere presence.

She was shocked and caught off guard. If she could have fought back, she should have done it imo... or at least acknowledge that she could.

But the way Brandish's feats are, it's difficult to say she can manipulate God Serena's magic that much...

Again, one last time, God Serena's spells can take Neinhart down due to his attack power. MP only plays a minor factor in this. Think of it this way...

• Attack Power + MP = Damage Output
• MP ≠ Damage Output

You are confusing MP with damage output when really attack power plays a much more important role.

Neinhart didn't use an attack at the time so Brandish was obviously not trying to shrink a spell. The only thing left that she could shrink was Neinhart himself which proved futile because of his immense magic power.

 

[Nemispelled]

Again, one last time, God Serena's spells can take Neinhart down due to his attack power. MP only plays a minor factor in this. Think of it this way...

• Attack Power + MP = Damage Output
• MP ≠ Damage Output

You are confusing MP with damage output when really attack power plays a much more important role.

Neinhart didn't use an attack at the time so Brandish was obviously not trying to shrink a spell. The only thing left that she could shrink was Neinhart himself which proved futile because of his immense magic power.

Yeah, but you are forgetting the part where she feared Enhanced Neinhart...

How can you fear Neinhart and be able to manipulate God Serena's attacks?

Think of it this way, pretend it was God Serena vs. Brandish...

See how afraid Brandish would be? I highly doubt she would be able to shrink every single one of Serena's attacks to the size of a pebble.

In fact, Brandish would be just as scared as when she witnessed Enhanced Neinhart.

She probably won't be able to manipulate God Serena's magic either.

If Natsu could twoshot Neinhart without fear while Brandish was shocked, then that just shows the large power difference between Brandish and Serena.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Yeah, but you are forgetting the part where she feared Enhanced Neinhart...

How can you fear Neinhart and be able to manipulate God Serena's attacks?

Think of it this way, pretend it was God Serena vs. Brandish...

See how afraid Brandish would be? I highly doubt she would be able to shrink every single one of Serena's attacks to the size of a pebble.

In fact, Brandish would be just as scared as when she witnessed Enhanced Neinhart.

She probably won't be able to manipulate God Serena's magic either.

If Natsu could twoshot Neinhart without fear while Brandish was shocked, then that just shows the large power difference between Brandish and Serena.

I honestly don't know how else to explain this...

First of all, fear is irrelevant here. I don't even know how you added this into the subject of discussion...

Second of all, Brandish "feared" Enhanced Neinhart himself. Not his attacks. And because God Serena's attacks are lower than Neinhart in magic power, then I don't see why Brandish wouldn't be able to manipulate his attacks.

So in a hypothetical battle between God Serena vs. Brandish, she wouldn't be able to shrink him. But she could still shrink his attacks. So your next question would be "How can God Serena win against Brandish then?". The conclusion to this question in previous arguments is that God Serena can spam his attacks at a rate in which Brandish wouldn't be able to keep up when trying to shrink them.

 

[Nemispelled]

I honestly don't know how else to explain this...

First of all, fear is irrelevant here. I don't even know how you added this into the subject of discussion...

Second of all, Brandish "feared" Enhanced Neinhart himself. Not his attacks. And because God Serena's attacks are lower than Neinhart in magic power, then I don't see why Brandish wouldn't be able to manipulate his attacks.

So in a hypothetical battle between God Serena vs. Brandish, she wouldn't be able to shrink him. But she could still shrink his attacks. So your next question would be "How can God Serena win against Brandish then?". The conclusion to this question in previous arguments is that God Serena can spam his attacks at a rate in which Brandish wouldn't be able to keep up when trying to shrink them.

Exactly. Brandish feared "Enhanced Neinhart himself".

Natsu showed no signs of worry.

And you saw how Historia God Serena gave Natsu a rough time for a few seconds.

So Brandish doing anything remotely close to enlarging/shrinking God Serena's powerful attacks/spells seems kind of unrealistic at the moment.

If she was intimidated by Enhanced Neinhart's body, she would not be able to control the size of God Serena's spells.

 

[Char]

The first team is the deadliest... we have one of the haxiest spriggans and one of the strongest non-hax spriggan. Brandish can instakill and God Serena is a beast... They may even stomp. Also if you had a fifth category with Dimaria only, she'd also arguably stomp the four teams, provided that her age seal works on spriggans.

 

[Static]

The first team is the deadliest... we have one of the haxiest spriggans and one of the strongest non-hax spriggan. Brandish can instakill and God Serena is a beast... They may even stomp. Also if you had a fifth category with Dimaria only, she'd also arguably stomp the four teams, provided that her age seal works on spriggans.

The rule is that Brandish cannot insta kill

 

[Char]

I missed that detail... Then the team still wins, but high-extreme diff.

 

[Arjuna]

I will give this battle to Brandish and God Serena mainly because of God Serena.God Serena with 8 Dragon Slayer elements is above most of the Spriggans and his energy attacks should effect Bloodman.And Brandish together with him should win.
Support Brandish x God Serena.