Lol PoF isn't a talent thing but Erza does spam it most. They can both do it, there is no reason that Laxus can't do it IF it's PoF. It could be Makarov's light since there were several panels with a shroud around her, and she made the appearance of a star in the sky herself.
The power comes from feelings or Makarov.
Almost nothing tops Irene's fight. I explained the CiS with Wall as far as I could tell.
Ajeel would have killed Erza or do you think she can tank a beheading? At any rate Erza couldn't move there. 3 Historia's put Erza down for the count in Hargeon.
Being unable to analyse it means exactly that - he didn't know what it was. Wall had immunity to electricity. He didn't have an immunity to RL but that doesn't mean Wall's immunity to electricity is negated - it just means that RL was powerful enough to bust Wall. The advantage theory is just a theory.
Nakagami didn't kill Ajeel, and he was already damaged before it (not severely but a bit).
No. I would have agreed with you if you had said pof is pof. Thus even rubio can bust wahl.
I will not agree all feats of erzs must be given to laxus by default
Ajeel would do as much damage to erza with axe as much laser did to laxus.
No those historia did not put erza down. Erza own eye power exhausted her
Erza powers comes from inside her till shown otherwise.
No you explained like 10% of nonsense in wahl vs laxus
Wahl wasnt immune to lighting. He converts lighting. That is why he is immune to it. Red lightening is something he cannot convert. Thats it.
As far as feat goes
Irene >>>>>> wahl
Every attack of irene >>>>>>>>> every attack of wahl
Nearly all broken bones erzs >>>>> magic cancer ridden laxus
Red lightening isnt doing shit to erza till it takes down someone who has as much durability as erza
Otherwise nakagami would be enough to take down laxus
Without Wendy's magic she barely wouldve scratched Eileen's hide, as shown by her failing to slash through human Eileens head a couple of chapters earlier. She also still had trouble with a guy Laxus could probably oneshot.
Her recent feats against Eileen havent improved her speed or offense, only her endurance. If anything Wendy is the one that got the power up this fight with her new "enchant her own magic onto something else" technique that i guess she learned from watching Eileen. That shits so OP it boosted Erza from not even being able to make human Eileen flinch from a slash to the head, to slicing through dragon Eileen like butter. Thats a pretty colossal jump in performance, way beyond what Wendy's enchantments used to be able to do.
Destroying the meteor and enduring all that Erza has is impressive though, so i'll call it high diff. But Laxus is still definitely the superior combatant
No. I would have agreed with you if you had said pof is pof. Thus even rubio can bust wahl.
I will not agree all feats of erzs must be given to laxus by default
The PoF comes from feelings I am quite sure Laxus can conjure up similar strong feelings as Erza in the aftermath of Makarov's death. However I will concede that Erza has the feat of this, but it's definitely within Laxus' capability since it's PoF.
Lol no it would do more damage than the sword that went thru her body in the recent chapter, or the swords that punctured her against the Berserkers. She was down for the count in Hargeon that isn't debatable, dojutsu or not.
He converts electricity (a stream of electrons). He does not say that he converts all lightning magic. As I understand it, the negative charges that would fry a circuit are converted. His inability to analyse this lightning does not automatically mean he cannot covert the negative charge of red lightning.
As far as feat goes
Irene >>>>>> wahl
Every attack of irene >>>>>>>>> every attack of wahl
Nearly all broken bones erzs >>>>> magic cancer ridden laxus
Irene is much above Wall, but her best attack was a flick of the wrist as a dragon. All her offensive enchantments she used on Erza bar Deus Sema are easily within Wall's capabilities.
I'll agree on all broken Erza >> Laxus with sickness. Clearly.
Red lightening isnt doing shit to erza till it takes down someone who has as much durability as erza
Otherwise nakagami would be enough to take down laxus
Laxus' durability is superior to Erza's. Endurance is in Erza's favour. Again Ajeel, Historia's and Berserkers have feats of doing considerable damage to Erza, so Red Lightning is still working. And it would go close to defeating her.
Erza isn't magically stronger in 2 days than she was against Neinheart or Ajeel. Laxus wins. Irene is just simply not that strong. Irene is clearly stronger than Erza but honestly imo Laxus > Irene.
The PoF comes from feelings I am quite sure Laxus can conjure up similar strong feelings as Erza in the aftermath of Makarov's death. However I will concede that Erza has the feat of this, but it's definitely within Laxus' capability since it's PoF.
Lol no it would do more damage than the sword that went thru her body in the recent chapter, or the swords that punctured her against the Berserkers. She was down for the count in Hargeon that isn't debatable, dojutsu or not.
And if it's feelings then Laxus is capable of it too.
I explained the PIS. Wall didn't do anything stupid before that.
He converts electricity (a stream of electrons). He does not say that he converts all lightning magic. As I understand it, the negative charges that would fry a circuit are converted. His inability to analyse this lightning does not automatically mean he cannot covert the negative charge of red lightning.
Irene is much above Wall, but her best attack was a flick of the wrist as a dragon. All her offensive enchantments she used on Erza bar Deus Sema are easily within Wall's capabilities.
I'll agree on all broken Erza >> Laxus with sickness. Clearly.
Laxus' durability is superior to Erza's. Endurance is in Erza's favour. Again Ajeel, Historia's and Berserkers have feats of doing considerable damage to Erza, so Red Lightning is still working. And it would go close to defeating her.
What are you talking about
You think every character can produce same amount of power under pof.
I will agree to that once you show me your post saying erza can easily replicate red lightening. Because its just pof
She was down for the count because of herself. Nothing else
Wahl did alot of stupid thing before that. And after the errors. He lost because of that.
Wahl cant convert red lightening. We already know that
Erza sword is much more stronger than ajeel axe. And erza is seriously out of magic now
Laxus durability is below erza. And his endurance is laugh worthy at best. Red lightening is something erza can't tank. But it wont do more damage to erza than ajeel attack . She will easily endure it
Just the way laxus will endure nakagami. Not get one shot by it.
Wahl offence is nowhere near irene. At best its around ajeel attack power. I will listen to you on it once you show me a post. Where you clearly states that other than mt fuji gmg, jura attacks are easily within rufus range. Because apparently there is not much different between top tier like jura or irene attacks as compared to mid tier like rufus and wahl attacks
You love dehyping erza dont you?
Every and all possible ways
Its was perfectly acceptable for
laxus >>> goi
But erza >>> cs was hilarious
Without Wendy's magic she barely wouldve scratched Eileen's hide, as shown by her failing to slash through human Eileens head a couple of chapters earlier. She also still had trouble with a guy Laxus could probably oneshot.
Her recent feats against Eileen havent improved her speed or offense, only her endurance. If anything Wendy is the one that got the power up this fight with her new "enchant her own magic onto something else" technique that i guess she learned from watching Eileen. That shits so OP it boosted Erza from not even being able to make human Eileen flinch from a slash to the head, to slicing through dragon Eileen like butter. Thats a pretty colossal jump in performance, way beyond what Wendy's enchantments used to be able to do.
Destroying the meteor and enduring all that Erza has is impressive though, so i'll call it high diff. But Laxus is still definitely the superior combatant
Erza isn't magically stronger in 2 days than she was against Neinheart or Ajeel. Laxus wins. Irene is just simply not that strong. Irene is clearly stronger than Erza but honestly imo Laxus > Irene.
What are you talking about
You think every character can produce same amount of power under pof.
I will agree to that once you show me your post saying erza can easily replicate red lightening. Because its just pof
Emotions. Laxus and Erza both have them. Makarov died (assuming it's POF) and that's the source of emotion. If Laxus can get some POF from Yury, I'm pretty sure he can conjure some up for his only decent parent figure...
Laxus durability is below erza. And his endurance is laugh worthy at best. Red lightening is something erza can't tank. But it wont do more damage to erza than ajeel attack . She will easily endure it
Just the way laxus will endure nakagami. Not get one shot by it.
Wahl offence is nowhere near irene. At best its around ajeel attack power. I will listen to you on it once you show me a post. Where you clearly states that other than mt fuji gmg, jura attacks are easily within rufus range. Because apparently there is not much different between top tier like jura or irene attacks as compared to mid tier like rufus and wahl attacks
The enchants Irene used on Erza bar Deus Sema aren't out of Wall's league at all. The ones she used against Acnologia are stronger than Wall's attacks (sans Etherion which is featless) imo. The attack feats Irene has against Erza with enchantments are not impressive.
No I don't get any pleasure, we're just discussing. But I don't like to drastically downplay or overhype anyone; but it is possible my judgment is way off that'a all.
Of course Erza >>> CS is hilarious... that would make Erza = August
Not nothing, it put her on par with Gray and Natsu(imo) who i also have losing to Laxus high diff; Gray might not even get that far.
But yes, she is still weaker than Laxus. Her performance against Eileen doesnt change the fact that she could barely handle 3 Historias, or that she only narrowly won against Azir. Laxus is at a level where he can kill the average spriggan in one hit(imo) Erza and Wendy together are at that level, but Erza alone is not(imo).
What Eileen's battle truly showcased is what an asset Wendy is as a support, makes Bisca look like trash. Without Wendy Erza would have been destroyed by Eileen(though even with Wendy, Erza couldnt actually defeat her)
Not nothing, it put her on par with Gray and Natsu(imo) who i also have losing to Laxus high diff; Gray might not even get that far.
But yes, she is still weaker than Laxus. Her performance against Eileen doesnt change the fact that she could barely handle 3 Historias, or that she only narrowly won against Azir. Laxus is at a level where he can kill the average spriggan in one hit(imo) Erza and Wendy together are at that level, but Erza alone is not(imo).
What Eileen's battle truly showcased is what an asset Wendy is as a support, makes Bisca look like trash. Without Wendy Erza would have been destroyed by Eileen(though even with Wendy, Erza couldnt actually defeat her)
Ni remember you said clearly
If erza took out the meteor than erza is on par with natsu
She didnt take out that metoer. She took out that metoer and took out the dragon
This erza can one shot a springgan. Laxus cant though.
I dont know why you keep on bringing on old things
Natsu plus gray cant even take out marin
Gray cant take out a random bot of wahl
Erza had had serious disadvantaged against ajeel which has now been clearly proven
Ni remember you said clearly
If erza took out the meteor than erza is on par with natsu
She didnt take out that metoer. She took out that metoer and took out the dragon
This erza can one shot a springgan. Laxus cant though.
I dont know why you keep on bringing on old things
Natsu plus gray cant even take out marin
Gray cant take out a random bot of wahl
Erza had had serious disadvantaged against ajeel which has now been clearly proven
Emotions. Laxus and Erza both have them. Makarov died (assuming it's POF) and that's the source of emotion. If Laxus can get some POF from Yury, I'm pretty sure he can conjure some up for his only decent parent figure...
She was downed from battle.
And it's not PiS/CiS. Not knowing Laxus is a lightning dragon slayer is an error - not stupidity.
He can't tell what it is - that is what we know.
And what about the Beserker army? Irene poked her lol.
Laxus' durability is definitely superior. Haha his endurance would be near Erza's. Erza could probably endure RL... but it's not an exhaustive attack.
The enchants Irene used on Erza bar Deus Sema aren't out of Wall's league at all. The ones she used against Acnologia are stronger than Wall's attacks (sans Etherion which is featless) imo. The attack feats Irene has against Erza with enchantments are not impressive.
No I don't get any pleasure, we're just discussing. But I don't like to drastically downplay or overhype anyone; but it is possible my judgment is way off that'a all.
Of course Erza >>> CS is hilarious... that would make Erza = August
Emotions doesnt mean everyone can power up equally. This concept you just introduced now.
He can produce pof no doubt. And then his attack will do absolutely nothing to that metoer and laxus will turn to dust.
Its not an error. Especially with wahl strength being weakness detection.
Berserker caught her by surpris . Irene held the sword with more strength than laxus can muster because she is alot stronger. The rest was erza who wanted head butt her
Laxus durability is far below erza. He endured rufus hits. While erza endured jura hits. Stop degrading
I am not even replying to attacks comment till i see you dehype jura like that. First show me your post claiming that rufus can easily match jura attacks other than mt fuji.
I dont know. You seems to constantly dehype erza in all possible ways. And over hype laxus
Its not about having wrong jugment. This the first time i am hearing that pof moment of one character can easily be copied by another character. And that mid tier springgan can match high tier springgan power. This is all being done for laxus.
Go figures
Though this kind of bs would have been thrown out gmg with sever scorn
Why are you skipping that Erza and Wendy ripped into Dragon Eileen?
As for why i am. I said i would rank Erza on par with Natsu and Gray if she destroyed the Meteor herself, which she did. I didnt say i would rank Erza above Natsu and Gray if she injured Eileen with the help of someone else.
Because he was beating the crap out of her? If she couldve oneshot him, she wouldve and if she was on Laxus' tier she shouldve been able to do it casually imo.
Oneshotted Wahl, almost oneshotted Azir.
So one. Which of course is more than enough for me to say he can handle other average spriggans in a similar manner especially with his Azir killing hype backing him up
Why are you skipping that Erza and Wendy ripped into Dragon Eileen?
As for why i am. I said i would rank Erza on par with Natsu and Gray if she destroyed the Meteor herself, which she did. I didnt say i would rank Erza above Natsu and Gray if she injured Eileen with the help of someone else.
Because he was beating the crap out of her? If she couldve oneshot him, she wouldve and if she was on Laxus' tier she shouldve been able to do it casually imo.
Oneshotted Wahl, almost oneshotted Azir.
So one. Which of course is more than enough for me to say he can handle other average spriggans in a similar manner especially with his Azir killing hype backing him up
Erza isn't magically stronger in 2 days than she was against Neinheart or Ajeel. Laxus wins. Irene is just simply not that strong. Irene is clearly stronger than Erza but honestly imo Laxus > Irene.
You missed the part where he was choking her to death did you?
Laxus can in my books, feel free to disagree, but we've already argued it plenty.
Laxus tier isnt enough to oneshot Acno.
And without Wendy enchanting her magic into Erza's sword Erza wouldnt even have been able to scratch Eileen. Wendy was irreplaceable in this fight, Erza couldnt have won without her(or maybe Eileen wouldve just killed herself sooner). Which is why im not ranking her above Natsu, her power alone couldnt beat a top tier spriggan, its not what was proved amazing last chapter, her power with Wendy at her side was(though even the two of them arent at Eileens level).
