You're right, i'll rephrase. "Acno was barely trying at all". Similar to how i barely have to try when i walk down to my mailbox and get the paper.
Sure Acnologia was surprised to see him there, surprised in that "bored, dont give a crap" kind of way. Just look at the dudes expression, couldnt care less.
Or are trying to tell me Acnologia was actually putting real effort into killing Jellal?
what? feats speaks for itself he's trying to dodge but he fails to do so. we see his expression being surprised to see jellal already in front of him when he already knows the fight's starting.
what now? you're reflex goes down when you're not trying? what the actual fuck? how the fuck do you even lower your reflex? reflex is an involuntary action.
nice downplay bruuhh... which character are you butthurt about for having Jellal surpass him/her?
apparantly you can't post meme because it becomes a bait post, so just imagine a meme of 2 sharls patting one another's back with their fin saying"there there"
About Acno and Jellal, I basically see it in the same light as Irene vs Acno, a really good feat. It's a shame he faced Acno with his new spells though because it's really tough to gauge how strong they are, especially Pleiades since it didn't even hit Acno. The one thing I will say about Pleiades is that I don't see many characters avoiding it, Acno may have been casual but four of those light beams almost hit him, so the attack itself is pretty damn fast. I think the best thing about these spells is that Jellal now has some attacks that he can spam, meaning that his weakness of long charge times has been eliminated. On top of this his barrier is pretty impressive too, so he's not much of a glass cannon anymore. He's still not got the best physicals, but his skill set more than compensates IMO. Overall, I think he's definitely top tier now.
I do think some people are overhyping it though, no way in hell was Acnologia going anywhere near serious, if he was serious Jellal, Erza and Wendy would be dead. That said, it shouldn't be downplayed either, non-serious human Acno is still an impressive opponent.
Out of interest, where do you guys rank him in comparison to Gildarts, Laxus, Erza, Gray and Natsu? Keep in mind that his fight with August shouldn't really be used against him, August was immune to his magic, could use it against him, and could use the magic of the OS against him.
what? feats speaks for itself he's trying to dodge but he fails to do so. we see his expression being surprised to see jellal already in front of him when he already knows the fight's starting.
His expression was one of complete and utter boredom, not a hint of shock in his eyes. Eileen drew out far more shock.
what now? you're reflex goes down when you're not trying? what the actual fuck? how the fuck do you even lower your reflex? reflex is an involuntary action.
Hahaha, i saw you say this to some other guy too. Really eats at you that not everyone is hyping Jellal to the moon because of his new feats doesnt it?
apparantly you can't post meme because it becomes a bait post, so just imagine a meme of 2 sharls patting one another's back with their fin saying"there there"
Oh is that a rule? Haha, i'll try and imagine it then. And do me a favor and imagine Ichiya low diffing Jellal in a serious fight for me, thats the meme i'd be posting if it was allowed(and if such a meme existed)
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Laxus spells:
-Fairy Law
-Red Lightning
-Roaring Thunder
-LD Jaw
-LD Roar
-Heavenward Halberd
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Natsu spells:
-FDK Roar
-FDK Demolition Fist
-Crimson Lotus: Phoenix Blade
-Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade
-Punches used vs. Neinhart
Since Natsu has modes, use the strongest version seen
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
About Acno and Jellal, I basically see it in the same light as Irene vs Acno, a really good feat. It's a shame he faced Acno with his new spells though because it's really tough to gauge how strong they are, especially Pleiades since it didn't even hit Acno. The one thing I will say about Pleiades is that I don't see many characters avoiding it
Out of interest, where do you guys rank him in comparison to Gildarts, Laxus, Erza, Gray and Natsu? Keep in mind that his fight with August shouldn't really be used against him, August was immune to his magic, could use it against him, and could use the magic of the OS against him.
Well after August' magic reveal I decided to not hold that fight against Jellal. But Gildarts still proved to be the tougher mage physically, though I doubt that comes as a shock to anyone. This chapter didn't change anything for me, it was 525 that did. Jellal does have a nice barrier though. So does Laxus, and Gildarts can shatter magic. Natsu can burn it, and Gray has IM Silver. And Erza is Erza. Those 6 are the top tier mages of Ishgal.
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
1) Abyss Break w/ hype (It would have destroyed the TOH 2 time-skips ago, powered by current Jellal... it would be insane)
2) Altairis w/ hype (I could see it killing a Spriggan similar to Red Lightning)
3/4) Hargeon Grand Chariot (The sheer charge time alone warrants it to be really powerful)
3/4) Sema w/ hype (It likely won't be used now due to too many allies being on the battlefield, but it should still be up there)
5/6) Grand Chariot vs Acno (It did the most damage to the area, but we can't really tell it's DC due to Acno eating it)
5/6) Kyuuraishin (Knocked Acno back by a significant amount, tough to gauge it's actual DC though do to Acno's resistance)
7) Pleiades (Again, it's tough to gauge it's DC since it never hit Acno, but it seemed to do the least damage to the area, however it should be noted that I may be wrong here since we never saw the combined explosions, and the explosion caused by each individual beam of Pleiades was pretty impressive to me anyway.)
This is just my estimates atm, it's really tough to gauge the new ones since Acno dodged Pleiades, tanked Kyuuraishin and ate Grand Chariot. We can't even judge Kyuuraishin that well since Acno has such an immense resistance to magic (it would be similar to attacking Natsu with a fire spell after all).
I could see Kyuuraishin being near it since it seems far more dedicated to a single target, but yeah, neither are going to be flat out superior to Grand Chariot seeing how he still uses that as a finisher.
Well after August' magic reveal I decided to not hold that fight against Jellal. But Gildarts still proved to be the tougher mage physically, though I doubt that comes as a shock to anyone. This chapter didn't change anything for me, it was 525 that did. Jellal does have a nice barrier though. So does Laxus, and Gildarts can shatter magic. Natsu can burn it, and Gray has IM Silver. And Erza is Erza. Those 6 are the top tier mages of Ishgal.
Agreed with everything here, that said it's tough to rank Jellal among them IMO. Prior to 528 my ranks were:
1/2) Gildarts
1/2) Laxus (This is allowing healthy Laxus hype)
3/4) Natsu (To me, Natsu is kind of inconsistent at times, mainly in relation to his base form)
3/4) Gray (I think him and Natsu are both pretty much on par)
5) Erza (It's her freakish endurance keeping her here, she just doesn't give in)
But with Jellal's feats being what they are now... I could see him being on par with Gildarts and Laxus tbh. He doesn't have great physicals but I think his skill set more than compensates, especially now that he has spammable spells. I guess I'd put it like this:
Even then, the tiers really aren't separated by much, and I could definitely see Natsu surpassing them all soon with how things are looking. I could be hyping Jellal too much due to New Feats Syndrome but IDK, he's definitely among them to me though. Entirely agreed on them being the top 6 of Ishgar too.
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Laxus spells:
-Fairy Law
-Red Lightning
-Roaring Thunder
-LD Jaw
-LD Roar
-Heavenward Halberd
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Roaring Thunder/Red Lightning
Fairy Law
Lightning Dragon's Jaw/Roar/Heavenward Halberd
Rank these Natsu spells:
-FDK Roar
-FDK Demolition Fist
-Crimson Lotus: Phoenix Blade
-Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade
-Punches used vs. Neinhart
Since Natsu has modes, use the strongest version seen
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
well, as some people said Jellal's ranking hasn't change much but I can definitely say that he is Laxus' equal in this arc because he can cast his spells faster than before.
pushing back Acnologia is no big feat nowdays and that's said.
freaking Christina can do it, no offense to her
I still consider Makarov's wrestling against Acnologia better feat than Irene and Jellal but I don't consider him above them.
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lol Roaring Thunder and Red Lightning above Fairy Law
- So? What evidence do we have that Laxus' Fairy Law was stronger than Makarov's version?
- Zeref doesn't even have Fairy Law. He has Law. Bill is not even a real character, and he certainly doesn't have Fairy Law.
- Fairy Law aims for everyone who the user deems as an enemy of his heart.
well, as some people said Jellal's ranking hasn't change much but I can definitely say that he is Laxus' equal in this arc because he can cast his spells faster than before.
pushing back Acnologia is no big feat nowdays and that's said.
freaking Christina can do it, no offense to her
I still consider Makarov's wrestling against Acnologia better feat than Irene and Jellal but I don't consider him above them.
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lol Roaring Thunder and Red Lightning above Fairy Law
His expression was one of complete and utter boredom, not a hint of shock in his eyes. Eileen drew out far more shock.
So what're you saying huh? Jellal speed>Acno speed lol? Acnologia is incapable of reacting to the great Jellal-sama himself, even when serious?
Hahaha, i saw you say this to some other guy too. Really eats at you that not everyone is hyping Jellal to the moon because of his new feats doesnt it?
Oh is that a rule? Haha, i'll try and imagine it then. And do me a favor and imagine Ichiya low diffing Jellal in a serious fight for me, thats the meme i'd be posting if it was allowed(and if such a meme existed)
Acno had "!" when jellal suddenly appeared in front of him after dodging the other blasts. that's being startled. that's basically the same reaction that popped up on erza, jellal and wendy when Christina suddenly appeared out of nowhere and rammed acno, that's basically the same thing that appeared to wendy when acno suddenly tried to charge at wendy. thats basically the same reaction Serena did when the ground suddenly erupted and picked him up to the air via Warrod's magic. thats basically the same reaction when GS, August, and Jacob suddenly saw a silhouette of a person(ACNO) as theey were merely walking on their way to FT
yes, im saying Jellal's speed was faster than HUMAN Acno's speed.
lol, feats speaks for itself, Acno was trying to dodge, but he got hit, and thats a Fact
you still haven't answered how dafuck can you voluntarily lower your an involuntary action. see the redundancy there? voluntarily stopping an involuntary.
i didn't know that just because many people agrees on a certain thing makes it right, that's so handy on my test i'll just tell all my classmates to answer letter A on our quiz, so that we'd have perfect score. i didn't know college was this EEEEEZZZZ
Makarov's version of Fairy Law is the strongest version of Fairy Law in this series to date. I don't see why it's so hard to accept that Laxus might have attacks stronger than his Fairy Law. In terms of AoE, an attack like this rivals the scale of Fairy Law. In terms of hype, it would have taken out a Spriggan.
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Laxus spells:
-Fairy Law
-Red Lightning
-Roaring Thunder
-LD Jaw
-LD Roar
-Heavenward Halberd
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Natsu spells:
-FDK Roar
-FDK Demolition Fist
-Crimson Lotus: Phoenix Blade
-Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade
-Punches used vs. Neinhart
Since Natsu has modes, use the strongest version seen
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Acno had "!" when jellal suddenly appeared in front of him after dodging the other blasts. that's being startled. that's basically the same reaction that popped up on erza, jellal and wendy when Christina suddenly appeared out of nowhere and rammed acno, that's basically the same thing that appeared to wendy when acno suddenly tried to charge at wendy. thats basically the same reaction Serena did when the ground suddenly erupted and picked him up to the air via Warrod's magic. thats basically the same reaction when GS, August, and Jacob suddenly saw a silhouette of a person(ACNO) as theey were merely walking on their way to FT
So what exactly does Acno being startled suppose to mean? Acno didnt care where Jellal was, its no surprise that the guy jumping at him was unexpected. I agree with the "Serena/Warrod" analogy though, it was similar to that.
yes, im saying Jellal's speed was faster than HUMAN Acno's speed.
Then you're an.... i wont finish that sentence for fear of being banned.
Jellal is a snail to human Acno, and thats being generous. In fact it'd be more accurate to call Jellal a cross-breed between a snail, a sloth and a tortoise WHILE IN METEOR, from human Acnologia's point of view.
lol, feats speaks for itself, Acno was trying to dodge, but he got hit, and thats a Fact
Meh, i'll play it off as Acno not trying at all, because thats the truth.
you still haven't answered how dafuck can you voluntarily lower your an involuntary action. see the redundancy there? voluntarily stopping an involuntary.
Why would i answer such an absurd question? You dont, reflexes are affected by your state of mind. if someone goes to punch you you'll have a better chance of blocking if you're focused intently on blocking than you would if you were just having a laugh, picking your nose or something.
i didn't know that just because many people agrees on a certain thing makes it right, that's so handy on my test i'll just tell all my classmates to answer letter A on our quiz, so that we'd have perfect score. i didn't know college was this EEEEEZZZZ
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Laxus spells:
-Fairy Law
-Red Lightning
-Roaring Thunder
-LD Jaw
-LD Roar
-Heavenward Halberd
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Natsu spells:
-FDK Roar
-FDK Demolition Fist
-Crimson Lotus: Phoenix Blade
-Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade
-Punches used vs. Neinhart
Since Natsu has modes, use the strongest version seen
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Jellal spells:
-Sema
-Pleiades
-Kyuuraishin
-Grand Chariot(vs. Neinhart)
-Grand Chariot(vs. Acno)
-Altairis
-Abyss Break
You can rank GC as one if you don't think there's a difference between them
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Laxus spells:
-Fairy Law
-Red Lightning
-Roaring Thunder
-LD Jaw
-LD Roar
-Heavenward Halberd
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Rank these Natsu spells:
-FDK Roar
-FDK Demolition Fist
-Crimson Lotus: Phoenix Blade
-Crimson Lotus: Exploding Flame Blade
-Punches used vs. Neinhart
Since Natsu has modes, use the strongest version seen
Reasonable hype allowed for spells not yet used in current arc
Jellal:
Abyss break (im bloody sure we'll never see this spell again, simply because hiro love to steak on heaven body magic, but it has a great hype since it's one of the "fordibben" spells, which is really shame /)
Sema
Altaris
GC vs neinhart
Kyuuraishin
GC vs acno
Pleiades
