No, really. Laxus has nothing on Natsu and neither has Natsu anything on Laxus to prove one superior to the other. This final arc messed up everything which includes power levels too. Natsu no longer is inferior to Laxus if we are going by feats. You cannot prove otherwise either.
Laxus despite anti-etherano (?) beat a Spriggan whereas Natsu was able to one-shot a Spriggan with Igneel's boost and needed Makarov to beat Jacob. And if it weren't for Lucy's asspull, Zeref would be walking away from a dead Natsu. And that's on top of Natsu and Gajeel having supreme difficulty beating Laxus arcs ago.
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No he fought a perfected hades just with his heart
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1st page laxus is tanking that attack. 2nd one lacrade was injured\exchausted that isn't working on a healthy laxus in fact laxus can even dodge that plus he is a speedster blitzs zeref. 3rd page that's a base natsu base roar(not FDK) weak argument laxus attacks>base natsu attacks without POF. 4th page won't work on laxus cause mest was able to save him be4 killing him again laxus speed is top tier in FT second to jellal. (That guy blitzes acno)I'm going with Zeref. I just don't see how Laxus can beat him.
Raw power is only one of many factors. And even then, Laxus isn't necessarily superior in that regard. Versatility, in my opinion, is what tips this battle in Zeref's favor. This is based on his...
Aside from what's mentioned above, Zeref also has more MP than Laxus and arguably has more endurance/stamina as well (after fighting Natsu for more than 5 chapters). This is excluding hype + portrayal... I wouldn't say this is that close of a fight though. Maybe Medium-High Difficulty.
Natsu+Gajeel having difficulty to defeat Laxus was indeed decades ago and serves no purpose in measuring their strength. And defeating a Spriggan where he had elemental advantage and had to heal from opponent's power? And to boot, using Fred's rune magic and some lightning that 'isn't a lightning' seems as an equal asspull to me.
1st Page - I agree that Laxus can probably tank that attack but the purpose of it was to show that Zeref is not bad in CQC. He can certainly match Laxus the same way he matched Natsu.
There are quite a few points I have to disagree with.You know, Zeref's feats are looking pretty good... that is, if we're not comparing it to something else. Let's take a look at Laxus' feats here:
Tartaros Arc
I don't see how Zeref can trap Laxus in anything if he's moving at this kind of speed.
It took Zeref several panels to immobilize Makarov in a ball. Here, Laxus is easily and casually dodging somebody at point-blank range.
Again, Laxus kicks Tempesta several yards away and instantly appears behind Tempesta after 1 panel.
You can see the distance between Laxus and Tempesta after the kick. By the time Tempesta looks back, Laxus' legs are already towering behind him.
And this was all 1 whole year ago.. in Tartaros Arc...
Dodging Zeref's attacks is really just another day at practice for Laxus.
Alvarez Arc
So, Zeref knocks people back just by staring at them, huh?
Well, Laxus produces lightning nukes by doing the exact same thing.
The above panel shows a casual MBP-infected Laxus producing a nuke of that size just by looking at Wahl.
Put a full-powered healthy Laxus there, and I'll leave you to judge who's "stare" is more impressive.
The guy that knocks people back a few feet?
Or
The guy that produces lightning nukes from the sky in a matter of mere seconds?
Daily Extras
Talking about speed... Laxus teleported several times during his battle against Wahl...
And how do I know that he is in fact teleporting?
Well, you can clearly see the After-image in the first panel.
Here, Laxus dodges a barrage of energy bullets with ease.
His expression even makes it look easy.
Like I said, if you're comparing speed feats, it is practically just another day at the job for this dude....
#LaxusWinsThis
Larcade wasnt just injured, he was completely and utterly trashed, to the point where walking was impossible and standing was an ordeal, i can scarcely believe he was able to pull off his magic.
Durability isn't heavily dependent on injury and exhaustion. Laxus was able to survive an attack from Hades with little magic power in his body. Besides, I don't think Larcade was in that bad of a condition as you described. He had time to rest, had the ability to get to the guild hall, and even used R.I.P (or something similar) which is technically a finishing move.
What do you mean durability isnt dependent on injury and exhaustion? Why isnt everyone oneshotted then? If Sting didnt need to exhaust or injure Larcade, why didnt he just to oneshot him with Rough Silk instead of pelting him with all those other attacks first?
And what makes you say that??? When did Laxus tank dragon level attacks? Because Zeref feats of tanking Dragon level attacks far exceed anything Laxus has ever had to endure.
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True POF doesnt count, but true translation reveals that it wasnt pof that felled FH Zeref. Come off it. Zeref revealed Natsu defeated him with his own power.
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And? The only reason laxus beat wahl is because freed randomly taught him a barrier seal and used pof to learn redl lightning for a grandfather he had never met, which makes less sense than Natsu being end which was established. Long ago
Plot armor isn't exclusive to Natsu. That's not what I was arguing.
I don't care about the current discussion about Zeref and Laxus, but i'll just quote these two lines.