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Zeref wins. Nothing much else to say.
Haha. But then I can say Zeref would change her back again, which is faster than her own transformation. But fair enough, we disagree on this so no point in going back and forth.Oh, I see what you're saying. I think he can hurt her as well in her human form, but I think she can just change to her Dragon form so him changing her back would just stall the inevitable.
For the same reason Brandish cant shrink August or someone of equivalent strength to the size of a bug, despite her feats of healing August.ANd why can't Zeref change her back into human, again?????
I'd give this to Zeref, but fuck Zeref. I'm going for Gildarts.
And Zeref would turn Irene back into a human. How would Irene be able to resist being turned back into a human? And would it work, given Zeref's MP?For the same reason Brandish cant shrink August or someone of equivalent strength to the size of a bug, despite her feats of healing August.
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Zeref has never forced Eileen into her human form, only changed her when she wasnt offering resistance. But even if he could, Eileen could just turn back.
Igneel/Powered Natsu attack power surpasses Irene Dragon form by a mile... and Zeref was tanking Igneel/Natsu attacks and was fighting even parHuman Acnologia>FH Zeref>Zeref.
I didnt say Eileen dominates Gildarts.
After Eileen does this maybe three or four times, she picks up Zeref and starts tearing of his arms and legs and throwing them away, Since immobilization counts as victory Eileen wins.
Nope, Acnologia thought Irene learn enchanment from Zeref, but that is not valid opinion because Irene from 400 years ago shown capable of using enchanment on wooden stick, so enchanment is Irene true power, she doesn't learn it from Zeref...It was stated that zeref taught her magic, so im sure is just as qualified an enchanter
immortality is restricted.I'm sure Gildarts can dice Deus Sema into cubes.
Although as for who's coming on top, I'm going for Zeref because of his immortality which is honestly the only thing that made him reach this far.
And then Gildarts and Irene will just have angry S€X.
Oops.. (clearly didn't read the rules) sorry about that lol..immortality is restricted.
Eileen should have more MP than Zeref, a lot more.And Zeref would turn Irene back into a human. How would Irene be able to resist being turned back into a human? And would it work, given Zeref's MP?
IgNatsu wouldnt even be able to oneshot Erza, at this point i doubt its even any better than END.Igneel/Powered Natsu attack power surpasses Irene Dragon form by a mile... and Zeref was tanking Igneel/Natsu attacks and was fighting even par
Irene best feat is defeating Erza who is below Ajeel level..
Zeref--->IG/Natsu--->Irene
What about Universe One?Nope, Acnologia thought Irene learn enchanment from Zeref, but that is not valid opinion because Irene from 400 years ago shown capable of using enchanment on wooden stick, so enchanment is Irene true power, she doesn't learn it from Zeref...
Yea I think it's obvious Zeref taught her stuff, like you said, with U1. She regarded Zeref as a genius of magic in her backstory too if that means anything. Irene did learn enchantment on her own, but you have to affix/detach 'magic', so Zeref can still teach more 'magic'??What about Universe One?
Zeref seems to have been the one who taught her that since when she used it,August berated her over not asking for Zeref's permission before using the spell. Plus she also makes mention of that in the guild hall when the 12 convene.
Irene is Low-Tier Dragon even God Serena can spam his magic arsenal all night long until Irene is defeated....Eileen should have more MP than Zeref, a lot more.
IgNatsu wouldnt even be able to oneshot Erza, at this point i doubt its even any better than END.
Ha, yeah, Erza, who blocked ENDs attacks with her bare hands. END>Zeref.
She's still a strong enough dragon to slaughter Zeref.Irene is Low-Tier Dragon even God Serena can spam his magic arsenal all night long until Irene is defeated....
unless you believe erza and Wendy is stronger than and their Dragon Slaying powers is more advanced than-----> God Serena or Laxus
FH/Zeref---->IG/Natsu---->Laxus/God Serena..
Gildarts---->God Serena/Laxus
and Irene is not immune to Zeref curse magic lol Zeref is even stronger than Human/Acnologia or Igneel....
yeah Erza giving fight to God Serena?? haha good joke Erza was helpless when Historia/Serena appeared and started his spam festival...Erza is not even strong enough to overpower Hyperions Vampire magic.. let alone she cant escape from Jura/Wolfheim/Warrod combined attacks...She's still a strong enough dragon to slaughter Zeref.
Zeref doesnt know DS magic, so in this fight he is more useless than God Serena. Erza alone gives God Serena a good fight anyway, enchanted Erza beats him.
I dont believe Eileen is immune to any magic, Curse or otherwise. I've always been a firm believer in Dragons simply having high durability, no form of immunity or anything.
Zeref isnt even stronger than human Eileen, let alone human Acnologia. Igneel rapes, no difficulty.
But it never stated that Zeref taught Universe one to Irene, it reasonable if Zeref afraid of Universe One since it was so powerfull and capable of killing thousand of people (if she actually shrink the continent and some people get drown in the sea). But more reasonable reason is because Universe One capable to send Acnologia away from battlefield and send Zeref to Mavis right away which i think Zeref doesn't like that. Zeref love playing with his soldiers, he enjoy to prolong the battle, if he serious want to take FH from Mavis, he can do it right away after UO casted, but... you know what zeref did back then....What about Universe One?
Zeref seems to have been the one who taught her that since when she used it,August berated her over not asking for Zeref's permission before using the spell. Plus she also makes mention of that in the guild hall when the 12 convene.