Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Invel > Zeref]

I'm sure Acnologia can kill anybody if he's serious. I don't think he was particularly threatened by God Serena. There's no reason to be if he could have just oneshot him. Besides, Acnologia will probably start taking things more seriously as the fight progresses and the dragon slayers stubbornly press on. .

Simple explanation. Unlike other dragon slayers, Acno killed Serena before Serena had the chance to attack him. Either Acno deemed Serena's attack power more threatening than the people who he toyed with or he just suffers from a form of PIS that prohibits him from being able to use his debilitating attacks or nearly unreactable speed against any characters with plot armor which I believe to be a more likely possibility.

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These are my Ishgar power rankings based on what I believe the characters are capable of without any friendship power:
1. Gildarts
2. Laxus
3. Natsu
4. Jellal (Good speed but his lack of durability in comparison to tanks like the people beneath him might compel me to put him lower)
5. Gray
6. White-shadow dragon mode sting (Shadow maneuverability + a piercing one shot attack with rough silk is dangerous combination)
7. Erza (Even without pof, her durability is insane, her fight with Ajeel proves she's weaker than an Elfman + Lissanna combo)
8. Gajeel (Jet black Iron isn't dragon force and only allowed him to negate Bloodman's intangibility. Unconfirmed that it makes him any stronger or that he could activate it on his own)
9. Kagura/Mirajane

 

[Axiomus]

Simple explanation. Unlike other dragon slayers, Acno killed Serena before Serena had the chance to attack him. Either Acno deemed Serena's attack power more threatening than the people who he toyed with or he just suffers from a form of PIS that prohibits him from being able to use his debilitating attacks or nearly unreactable speed against any characters with plot armor which I believe to be a more likely possibility.

Bold is a huge assumption to make for a person who has only beaten Ishgar Heavenly Saints. Like charging lightning pointed out, Acnologia needs to trap the dragon slayers in his crystals so he can harmonize his own power. If he wanted them dead, he would have just blown them up in his dragon form.

 

[Arjuna]

I will say Natsu is the strongest in Ishgar side.

Spoiler

He is the only Dragon Slayer who was somehow able to hold his ground and stop an attack of Acnologia with his bare hands.

 

[Xaos sama]

Simple explanation. Unlike other dragon slayers, Acno killed Serena before Serena had the chance to attack him. Either Acno deemed Serena's attack power more threatening than the people who he toyed with or he just suffers from a form of PIS that prohibits him from being able to use his debilitating attacks or nearly unreactable speed against any characters with plot armor which I believe to be a more likely possibility.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 24, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 24, 2017 ---

These are my Ishgar power rankings based on what I believe the characters are capable of without any friendship power:
1. Gildarts
2. Laxus
3. Natsu
4. Jellal (Good speed but his lack of durability in comparison to tanks like the people beneath him might compel me to put him lower)
5. Gray
6. White-shadow dragon mode sting (Shadow maneuverability + a piercing one shot attack with rough silk is dangerous combination)
7. Erza (Even without pof, her durability is insane, her fight with Ajeel proves she's weaker than an Elfman + Lissanna combo)
8. Gajeel (Jet black Iron isn't dragon force and only allowed him to negate Bloodman's intangibility. Unconfirmed that it makes him any stronger or that he could activate it on his own)
9. Kagura/Mirajane

actually, before devouting the revines of time, acnologia wanted to kill all the DS. and like what @Axiomus said, acno now needs the dragon slayers to circulate their magics through the ravines of time in order to stabilize his own magical power. if he wanted them dead like before, they'll probably suffer the same fate as serena.

with POF or not, natsu in DF is the strongest mage in ishgar side, it makes his magical power 2 times or even 3 times stronger (according to him) his base mode is already OP. I don't know about Gajeel, till now that mode is still featless, all what we saw is his punches. and jellal obviously doesn't lack durability, actually he's got one the best feats in the serie. tanking base natsu spells w/o damage, multiple DF natsu's punches with a little damage & tanking zero's Dark Capriccio after taking a big damage from self destruction spell & midnight's reflector. getting squished by dragon form acno's hand for at least more than 10 secs while one blow from eileen's dragon broke erza's bones.
imo laxus and gildarts are even. while gildarts got his crush magic hax. laxus is an all around mage

 

[**Silver**]

It's not easy to control overflowing power. One finger of his is enough to destroy all 7 of them. Acno doesn't have the level of mastery over his power that characters from DBZ do so I think it's reasonable to believe that instead of risking killing the things he needs, he'll play with them and have fun at the same time. He's killing two birds with one stone by avoiding the risk of killing them and having fun as well. But I digress since you did admit that this is also plot armor based.

yeah this is even more retarded Acnologia cant kill the Dragon Slayers because he needs them nice plot progression really... so there is no need to wait new feats from Acnologia

you can basically already know the outcome all Dragon slayers is still breathing after the battle

 

[Invel > Zeref]

Bold is a huge assumption to make for a person who has only beaten Ishgar Heavenly Saints. Like charging lightning pointed out, Acnologia needs to trap the dragon slayers in his crystals so he can harmonize his own power. If he wanted them dead, he would have just blown them up in his dragon form.

He should be able to knock some of them out though instead of choosing to be the overconfident villain that toys with his opponents until his defeat like I've seen hundreds of other times. I've already stated that the latter of my claims is the higher possibility and God's Serena's strength is difficult to gauge because we don't know the strength of the God's of Ishgar so I don't desire to argue for God Serena's strength.

actually, before devouting the revines of time, acnologia wanted to kill all the DS. and like what @Axiomus said, acno now needs the dragon slayers to circulate their magics through the ravines of time in order to stabilize his own magical power. if he wanted them dead like before, they'll probably suffer the same fate as serena.

with POF or not, natsu in DF is the strongest mage in ishgar side, it makes his magical power 2 times or even 3 times stronger (according to him) his base mode is already OP. I don't know about Gajeel, till now that mode is still featless, all what we saw is his punches. and jellal obviously doesn't lack durability, actually he's got one the best feats in the serie. tanking base natsu spells w/o damage, multiple DF natsu's punches with a little damage & tanking zero's Dark Capriccio after taking a big damage from self destruction spell & midnight's reflector. getting squished by dragon form acno's hand for at least more than 10 secs while one blow from eileen's dragon broke erza's bones.
imo laxus and gildarts are even. while gildarts got his crush magic hax. laxus is an all around mage

Gildarts crashes Dragon force Natsu's attack and Laxus dodges it. The only feat that attack has is disintegrating someone who wasn't even trying to dodge or combat it because he knew he would regenerate. That attack left Natsu exhausted so Gil and Lax just need to avoid it once to win.

Jellal's durability was okay pre-timeskip but post time-skip he got knocked out by a casual, nameless, Neinhart spell (Unless you think he was defeated by that anchor which is even worse). He wouldn't be able to tank much hits from Gray and Erza (Characters that can tank most of his attacks) so his best chance is using his speed to avoid them.

 

[Xaos sama]

Gildarts crashes Dragon force Natsu's attack and Laxus dodges it. The only feat that attack has is disintegrating someone who wasn't even trying to dodge or combat it because he knew he would regenerate. That attack left Natsu exhausted so Gil and Lax just need to avoid it once to win.

Jellal's durability was okay pre-timeskip but post time-skip he got knocked out by a casual, nameless, Neinhart spell (Unless you think he was defeated by that anchor which is even worse). He wouldn't be able to tank much hits from Gray and Erza (Characters that can tank most of his attacks) so his best chance is using his speed to avoid them.

this is a power ranking, it's not about a fight between 2 mages, imo, DF natsu is far more impressive than both laxus and gildarts. even tho he's still featless.

so you are basically saying fodderheart's casual attack> acnologia's grip which ripped off igneel's body? jellal actually downed because of that anchor which immobilized his body. that's why he needed CPR and after than he came back to fight. just fine. the attack didn't leave any damage on his body. imo, if jellal can endure getting squished by acnologia then he can tank their attacks just fine.

 

[Invel > Zeref]

I am not joking and strictly curious when I ask this but:
What if someone had the magic ability to reverse the effect of POF (the stronger the bonds people have with others, the weaker he can make them)? Would that person be immediately placed in third only behind Acno and Auguest? Could that magic solo Fairy Tail?

this is a power ranking, it's not about a fight between 2 mages, imo, DF natsu is far more impressive than both laxus and gildarts. even tho he's still featless.

so you are basically saying fodderheart's casual attack> acnologia's grip which ripped off igneel's body? jellal actually downed because of that anchor which immobilized his body. that's why he needed CPR and after than he came back to fight. just fine. the attack didn't leave any damage on his body. imo, if jellal can endure getting squished by acnologia then he can tank their attacks just fine.

Natsu has a stronger attack than Gil and Laxus in dragon force but that doesn't make him stronger overall imo. Acnologia plays around with opponents that have plot armor, he wasn't going full force immediately to squeeze him into toothpaste. So he couldn't easily push an anchor off his body? Anchors may be heavy by human standards but any mage with decent physical strength should easily be able to push it off their body. The water isn't what knocked out Jellal initially because Kagura who was underwater for the same period of time was still able to remain conscious. He was knocked out by Neinharts attacks or an anchor and then began to drown from the water

 

[Spirit]

He should be able to knock some of them out though instead of choosing to be the overconfident villain that toys with his opponents until his defeat like I've seen hundreds of other times. I've already stated that the latter of my claims is the higher possibility and God's Serena's strength is difficult to gauge because we don't know the strength of the God's of Ishgar so I don't desire to argue for God Serena's strength.

Gildarts crashes Dragon force Natsu's attack and Laxus dodges it. The only feat that attack has is disintegrating someone who wasn't even trying to dodge or combat it because he knew he would regenerate. That attack left Natsu exhausted so Gil and Lax just need to avoid it once to win.

Jellal's durability was okay pre-timeskip but post time-skip he got knocked out by a casual, nameless, Neinhart spell (Unless you think he was defeated by that anchor which is even worse). He wouldn't be able to tank much hits from Gray and Erza (Characters that can tank most of his attacks) so his best chance is using his speed to avoid them.

Gil's Crash Magic has a suppression cap. As much as I hate to admit it, Natsu is insanely overpowered. Gildarts wouldn't be able to totally negate all of the Magical Power Natsu can pump out. He'd be blown away.

 

[Invel > Zeref]

Gil's Crash Magic has a suppression cap. As much as I hate to admit it, Natsu is insanely overpowered. Gildarts wouldn't be able to totally negate all of the Magical Power Natsu can pump out. He'd be blown away.

When was that confirmed and where did you get that from? Savage emotion Natsu that could burn time would fodderize Gildart's crash but I am not using pof in my rankings.

 

[Spirit]

When was that confirmed and where did you get that from? Savage emotion Natsu that could burn time would fodderize Gildart's crash but I am not using pof in my rankings.

Me, use PoF in my deliberations? Ha!

Natsu still has the power of the Fire Dragon King and is likely to get another power up in the very near future before the series ends. Hell, the guy wiped out every guild in the GMG that one time.

 

[Invel > Zeref]

Me, use PoF in my deliberations? Ha!

Natsu still has the power of the Fire Dragon King and is likely to get another power up in the very near future before the series ends. Hell, the guy wiped out every guild in the GMG that one time.

Those were fodder guilds.

Secondly, I am not certain that Igneel's flames or any stronger than Natsu's at this point. Igneel is probably stronger due to dragon physicals but I don't think his flames are stronger anymore

 

[Spirit]

Exactly. Natsu seems to get stronger by walking around... Gildarts was overtaken as soon as the E.N.D Subplot became actually relevant.

 

[Xaos sama]

Natsu has a stronger attack than Gil and Laxus in dragon force but that doesn't make him stronger overall imo. Acnologia plays around with opponents that have plot armor, he wasn't going full force immediately to squeeze him into toothpaste. So he couldn't easily push an anchor off his body? Anchors may be heavy by human standards but any mage with decent physical strength should easily be able to push it off their body. The water isn't what knocked out Jellal initially because Kagura who was underwater for the same period of time was still able to remain conscious. He was knocked out by Neinharts attacks or an anchor and then began to drown from the water

DF doesn't only make natsu attacks's stronger, but it does make him also faster. faster than even meteor jellal as we saw back in TOH.
Base natsu is already close to laxus's and gildarts's level, a three times stronger natsu is definitely ahead of them
and no, acnologia didn't go easy on him. specially when he straights up told him "Im going to crush you"(Here). he doesn't have any reason to do when he finished off GS and gildarts in a second.
if jellal got drowned by his attack mashima wouldn't put that anchor up his back in the first place. kagura just have to give cpr after that. right? i don't know how much attacks jellal did tanked from august. but if he tanked a stronger a spiral pain (here) from somone of august's calibre without getting knocked out, then he'll have no problem tanking a casual attack from fodderheart. and bare in mind that brandish got knocked by This, tho she can do far better. and I agree, it's all about plot reasons.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I'm sure Acnologia can kill anybody if he's serious. I don't think he was particularly threatened by God Serena. There's no reason to be if he could have just oneshot him. Besides, Acnologia will probably start taking things more seriously as the fight progresses and the dragon slayers stubbornly press on.

Even without flames of savage emotions, Natsu's feats in dragon force outclass God Serena's feats. I would even argue Laxus, Gajeel, and Sting's feats outclass God Serena's. God Serena's best feats were against the Heavenly Kings of Ishgar, which were all weaker than any individual Spriggan.

weaker than Jacob!?

you mad fam!?

 

[Axiomus]

weaker than Jacob!?

you mad fam!?

The Kings of Ishgar? They are weaker than Jacob.

 

[Demon Hunter]

The Kings of Ishgar? They are weaker than Jacob.

yeah this is even more retarded Acnologia cant kill the Dragon Slayers because he needs them nice plot progression really... so there is no need to wait new feats from Acnologia

you can basically already know the outcome all Dragon slayers is still breathing after the battle

nah Acnologia is gonna win this battle.

his dragon form is gonna be pushed back by Minerva and others.

no big deal really.

 

[Axiomus]

Transport alone will allow Jacob to solo them. With stealth, Jacob has arguably better hand to hand than Jura or Warrod. Hyperion is the only one that would give him trouble, assuming that he can even track him down.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Transport alone will allow Jacob to solo them. With stealth, Jacob has arguably better hand to hand than Jura or Warrod. Hyperion is the only one that would give him trouble, assuming that he can even track him down.

btw, should we change the poll to something else???

 

[Axiomus]

btw, should we change the poll to something else???

\_(O_o)_/

Depends on what you have in mind.