Games Mafia Game 55 - Overwatch - END GAME

[Copy Panda]

hasnt she also been mafia a lot tho

 

[Farfalla]

that logic is so faulty it makes you suspect

the less information you give away, including common knowledge you've been keeping track off, the less well off all the others are. by announcing you're keeping track of everything, all the mafia has to do is do nothing weird on day 1, the only day in the game you can be do weird things and get away with it by saying 'its day 1'

basically you're doing nothing but assist the mafia in their efforts to not slip up

I'm sry to disagree xD Can't help you feel that way.
When you're not overthinking you might casually do stuff that will look more natural to others (and later can be excused as trolling, newbie action, etc). When you let people know there are others paying close attention to your actions and recording stuff, you make the ones that have to invent stuff and forge fake information get concious.
Idk, from what I recall of being mafia, we usually spent a lot of time coming up with stories, checking what would look more convincing, what could be the gaps in it, etc. That's somewhat stressful, and when you put people under pressure they are more likely to make mistakes. So by doing it when they have less resources to work with (they don't know what their team think of it, maybe they're newbies and they just don't know the game better, they don't know what roles are risky to claim 'cause people provided too little right now for them to go all in with some options, and so on), you're giving them less space as well.
Also, wtv they forge now they have to follow by to the rest of the game, in spite of what other plans their group might have (or how the false claim might work against a buddy later) or what cotradictions that might create. So yeah, for me the overthinking idea looks viable. But yeah, guess we have different opinions.
In spite of alignments, people have to self preserve and be careful with the opposite parties anyway o.o that doesn't change.

 

[Demonspeed]

hasnt she also been mafia a lot tho

Only once AFAIR. At least since I am playing here.

 

[Copy Panda]

yes and now on the first few pages you made all of that clear

idk cant help but to think you might be trying to communicate something here with some fellow mafia chans, maybe one of them is a newbie~

 

[Farfalla]

I have been everything lately @.@ In my last two games I was máfia lover and then bulletproof recruited by the mentor, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Erinyes]

love the "ultimate" idea, but I have some troubles to understand how does it work :
itis said :"Everyone starts at 0% ultimate charge. Once your ultimate is charged to 100%"
But what makes it charge ? are everyone ultimates going to be charged simultaneously ? i doubt. so on what criteria (don't know at all the game so maybe i miss something but the idea reminds me of limit break FF)

 

[Copy Panda]

I'm sry to disagree xD Can't help you feel that way.
When you're not overthinking you might casually do stuff that will look more natural to others (and later can be excused as trolling, newbie action, etc). When you let people know there are others paying close attention to your actions and recording stuff, you make the ones that have to invent stuff and forge fake information get concious.

so for instance, a newbie mafia now knows what not to do without having their team to consult them

Idk, from what I recall of being mafia, we usually spent a lot of time coming up with stories, checking what would look more convincing, what could be the gaps in it, etc. That's somewhat stressful, and when you put people under pressure they are more likely to make mistakes.

absolutely but the game already progressed a bit at such a point, which is why i point out its very counter productive and even suspect to do this kind of thing this early and add so much explanation

So by doing it when they have less resources to work with (they don't know what their team think of it, maybe they're newbies and they just don't know the game better, they don't know what roles are risky to claim 'cause people provided too little right now for them to go all in with some options, and so on), you're giving them less space as well.

well no harm done, you only notified them of these facts as early as you possibly could lol

Also, wtv they forge now they have to follow by to the rest of the game, in spite of what other plans their group might have (or how the false claim might work against a buddy later) or what cotractions that might create. So yeah, for me the overthinking idea looks viable. But yeah, guess we have different opinions.
In spite of alignments, people have to self preserve and be careful with the opposite parties anyway o.o that doesn't change.

I doubt they'll now have any reason to say anything to spice if anything at all

 

[Zasz]

love the "ultimate" idea, but I have some troubles to understand how does it work :
itis said :"Everyone starts at 0% ultimate charge. Once your ultimate is charged to 100%"
But what makes it charge ? are everyone ultimates going to be charged simultaneously ? i doubt. so on what criteria (don't know at all the game so maybe i miss something but the idea reminds me of limit break FF)

Maybe by performing certain actions, like votekilling a Mafia member?

 

[Farfalla]

I added a lot of explanation after being requested '-'

And well, if you think that being able to notice people relucting to share anything, engage in anything, avoiding everything and etc, now that this topic was discussed, won't be something relevant, then yeah, I made a bad move.

I have a night role, btw.

 

[Copy Panda]

If farfalla turns out to be mafia, i think its probable a noob is mafia too

if farfalla is mafia bomb or something like that, i dont think its a noob

as for the ultimate, i think it charges a bit every time you vote for a mafia member, and maybe a bit more if your vote leads to a lynch of the mafia member. we'll need a day or 2/3 to figure that out probably

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I added a lot of explanation after being requested '-'

some spicy jibber jabber

And well, if you think that being able to notice people relucting to share anything, engage in anything, avoiding everything and etc, now that this topic was discussed, won't be something relevant, then yeah, I made a bad move.

well you undoubtedly signalled any noob chan, whether youre mafia or not

 

[Aonori]

You're never a gentleman, tut tut.

Gonna test a new list to see if it will make mafia self aware when they vote:

- Lovemagi: voted Qixus [5:10AM] - random reason
- kira: voted Farfalla [7:51AM] - random reason
- lawlett: voted Farfalla [8:04AM] - random reason
- Asia Run: voted Lovemagi [11:43AM] - for the sake of voting
- Zasz: voted Belserion [11:43AM] - no given reason
- Belserion: voted Zasz [12:15PM] - no given reason
- Lambu: voted kira [01:00PM] - random reason

The thing about this list that was giving me the most suspicion was the fact I couldnt connect any of the time of the votekilling posts you recorded to my own, then I went to check my time, yup it´s 3 hours ahead of yours.

Eitherway, the two votekills at the same exact time, are weird, coincidence, or sign of a greater conspiracy?

If farfalla turns out to be mafia, i think its probable a noob is mafia too

if farfalla is mafia bomb or something like that, i dont think its a noob

as for the ultimate, i think it charges a bit every time you vote for a mafia member, and maybe a bit more if your vote leads to a lynch of the mafia member. we'll need a day or 2/3 to figure that out probably

That way it would match how it worked in the Gantz game with the point awarding system, seems like the most probable way to get %.

 

[Copy Panda]

nevermind the fact that actual time of voting doesnt necessarily imply anything really, mostly the context that person votes in is important id say

 

[Farfalla]

as for the ultimate, i think it charges a bit every time you vote for a mafia member, and maybe a bit more if your vote leads to a lynch of the mafia member

If voting for a máfia solely would grant gauge, that would reveal máfia at the start of the next day o.O

 

[Aonori]

If voting for a máfia solely would grant gauge, that would reveal máfia at the start of the next day o.O

unless the vote needs to lead to a mafia lynch, for getting %, that way nothing gets revealed, I wonder how it works, for those like Cowboy, if they get a mafia killed by their ability, do they get % increase?

 

[gnut]

Sub

Why the fuck I have this Sting look-a-like from Dune?

 

[Aonori]

Sub

Why the fuck I have this Sting look-a-like from Dune?

No idea, first time ever seeing your character.

 

[Farfalla]

unless the vote needs to lead to a mafia lynch, for getting %, that way nothing gets revealed, I wonder how it works, for those like Cowboy, if they get a mafia killed by their ability, do they get % increase?

But then máfia members would have less opportunity to gain gauge xD or potentially more, if theirs is triggered by townie lynches (bigger number). There are prolly more than one way.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Panda is vastly overestimating people who are playing this game in general, let alone the newbies.
Anyone who would take subtle "hints" like that from what Farfalla posted would actually do perfectly fine on their own to begin with.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

 

[Demonspeed]

If farfalla turns out to be mafia, i think its probable a noob is mafia too

if farfalla is mafia bomb or something like that, i dont think its a noob

as for the ultimate, i think it charges a bit every time you vote for a mafia member, and maybe a bit more if your vote leads to a lynch of the mafia member. we'll need a day or 2/3 to figure that out probably

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 20, 2017 ---

some spicy jibber jabber



well you undoubtedly signalled any noob chan, whether youre mafia or not

Why do you think that there is no Mafia among the new players in the first place? At least one of them is Mafia for sure.

 

[Qixus]

My first mafia game- Please be kind to me. lol

Anyways, who would I suspect as a mafia member thus far... hmm... too early to tell I think.