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I just dont understand why you didnt protect magi again....?
He is a confirmed townie.
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If you are doc....and kill someone.
Id much rather know than not....we have 2 dead corpses and no confirmation.
On N2 when I protected Magi, my charge was only 10% , I figured out something was off, then I understood it when D3 you stated that on N2 you had used your ability on magi too, which means it probably didn't charge because she was already protected by someone else. Then, I wanted to test it on someone aside magi, but on N3 I couldn't think on anyone else, mostly because I was wrong at D3 on Lawl's train and didn't know who I could trust since many didn't reveal ther roles, Also on D4 my charge actually was 100% (which leads me to believe I'm either insane or naive), but after thinking a bit, I decided to use it on Qixus on N4 because I believe she is the politician.

Anyways, I'm going to sleep now, see you all guys later. By they way, @Lovemagi Magi, are you a he or she? :XD you've been adressed by both.
 

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@Aonori Can you investigate Qixus tonight? I feel like even after today, we're still not going to have enough on her to make a solid decision on day 6..
 

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Ok seriously going back through 45 pages was an experience lol. But I just needed to see how the two people I suspect have behaved and yeah. I'm still a bit green here so indulge me. These are basically my rambling thoughts anyway. I've been 50/50 on Desin and Lambu. One of them is definitely the Janitor. The only hint I saw Lambu give as to his role was that it was active. Maybe I missed other hints but I don't recall seeing any more. Then there's Desin who was reluctant to share much I guess because he said his role doesn't allow for many hints, something to that effect, but now he's come right out and said he's the sane Doctor. Not sure if I really believe that but still, why was it that on the night his role was blocked there were no killings? I mean I may have missed something but the doctors role shouldn't affect mafia killings should it? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. But yeah thats a little too much of a coincidence. I mean I'm no investigator or anyone important really but I do know things. And I'm pretty confident it's one of those two. So if I should die tonight that's my gift to the town. If we lynch one today and he turns out not to be the janitor then I'm 100% sure it's the other one. As reluctant as I am to believe him, Desin did at least claim a role, so I'll shift 10% in his favor and votekill Lambu.
 

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@Aonori Can you investigate Qixus tonight? I feel like even after today, we're still not going to have enough on her to make a solid decision on day 6..
Fair enough, I will do it, lets hope I live til the next day phase now.
 

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Ok seriously going back through 45 pages was an experience lol. But I just needed to see how the two people I suspect have behaved and yeah. I'm still a bit green here so indulge me. These are basically my rambling thoughts anyway. I've been 50/50 on Desin and Lambu. One of them is definitely the Janitor. The only hint I saw Lambu give as to his role was that it was active. Maybe I missed other hints but I don't recall seeing any more. Then there's Desin who was reluctant to share much I guess because he said his role doesn't allow for many hints, something to that effect, but now he's come right out and said he's the sane Doctor. Not sure if I really believe that but still, why was it that on the night his role was blocked there were no killings? I mean I may have missed something but the doctors role shouldn't affect mafia killings should it? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. But yeah thats a little too much of a coincidence. I mean I'm no investigator or anyone important really but I do know things. And I'm pretty confident it's one of those two. So if I should die tonight that's my gift to the town. If we lynch one today and he turns out not to be the janitor then I'm 100% sure it's the other one. As reluctant as I am to believe him, Desin did at least claim a role, so I'll shift 10% in his favor and votekill Lambu.
Lambu I was also a bit supicious of for similar reasons as I was desin, but to a lesser extent. It is true he hasn't said much regarding his role though.. Have you declared yours? I know some people still haven't and I know you gave some info about your night actions on day 4, but I don't remember you making a claim.

Doctors definitely affect mafia killings though lol. Whoever gets targeted by a sane doctor is immune to normal mafia killings. I think a strongman can still kill them, but besides that, the target is safe for that night. An insane doctor is one of the few townie killing roles and they can kill mafia members.

Anyhow, I do agree with a lot of the things you said, but desin still seems more suspect

Votekill desin24
Fair enough, I will do it, lets hope I live til the next day phase now.
Between the ults and the doctor claims, I think you'll be fine for tonight. You're one of the people who're more likely to have protection.
 

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Ok guys, my big ass post: Votelock desin24

Never says anything, always theorizes on what people already said, that is real inactivity. I for example (and yeah, Im using myself as example) might have posted even less than him but I always kept my suspicions clear to the town. I also said that ust because I cannot comment "live" doesn't mean I dont read when I find some time.
NOTE:I didn't use quote system because I work better with word and I can check everything when I want to, but if someone asks for direct proof of the quotes I'll gladly link them

D1

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Votekill zasz in day one (D1 is D1 after all so no relevance in that

D2

-"So quixus is most likely politician and messed up a bit. Making Daws vote for Vandred seems a bit weird but who knows."

- 60% gauge
(nice upgrade for not doing anything that night and being quite innactive that day)

"Kinda difficult to decide what to do with their 3 vote headstart. If both are townie then the mafia would have rather easy day.
Isn't it weird that they used the janitor in night one? Maybe they want to reserve the other mafia roles for later?"

To Aonori about the gauge I think"Haven't noticed it yet but now I gotta reread your posts. I feel like both are townies which is why mafia is keeping it quiet and just waits and sees. A fourway tie is quite a situation though."

"I agree with far
(falla) here. Quixus seems the most likely to be townie.
Dunno about Daws, I'd think getting the mafia role should be a bit more exciting and get you to play enthusiastically (thinking of Kato here).
Lawl is rather silent which is rather un-lawly but still within the spectrum to not be suspicious. Could even see him trying to stay a bit under the radar.
Not sure about Lambu to be honest."

"votekill Son of daws out those four he seemed the most suspicious to me"

D2 passes with him saying nothing and votekilling out of feel, not quite the right thing to do as doctor, when you should be trying your best to know who you want to protect.

Post #493
: he did not use doc claimed ability just like he just said, at least he seems like he took his time to revise his posts or simply did not lie (but Im going into that right now)

D3: this was the pivotal point, please pay attention.

- Big "demon supporter" (this post made me target him in N3)

"Backreading this day was a huge pain in the ass. WTF is even happening.
Magi after your Farfalla trolling kill my trust is at 0, there's just way too high of a chance that you decided to partner with lawl to troll the shit out of this game.
Lawl always gets caught up in his lies, quite often as mafia, sometimes also as townie (which I only witnessed once so far)

I could imagine lawl being mafia and magi helping him for the lulz."
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[Post by Vandred aka Mafia boss (about the bandwagon on demon)
post liked by the actual Demon, desin and Asia.

“This is the third day that we end up going for a random vote... So let me get this straight.

If I vote for Demon and he dies as a townie, I'm next on the list because "it has to be one who didn't use their active role". If I vote for Demon and he dies as mafia, it would mean lawlett is probably (not 100%) being honest about his role, and investigating me would prove that I'm a townie. Except that "a hunch" says I'm the Mafia Boss, so I would still be a suspect for no reason and we don't have any other one.

If I vote lawlett and he dies, regardless of his affiliation, Lovemagi will spend the next day replicating today with me in Demon's place, and since we still have no other lead whatsoever, I would probably die on that day before we (well, just you guys at that point) will start to follow some other hunch or someone claiming to have figured everything out thanks to their investigations.”]
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- N2:85%
(very low increase, I thought he used his ability in N2… dis he lie about his gauge)

Actually everyone who did not vote for demon that day are in my checklist for one obvious reason:

Lynching demon that day was the optimal solution for the townies in general, of course lawlett looked suspicious but when it came to it Demon was clearly the most dangerous one even taking into account laws trolling, Damn it, even Vandred noticed this and votekilled Demon for that reason (and now that its practically confirmed there are two mafias it made even more sense).

I think people don’t understand one concept. For the townies to win we must kill mafia>> therefore we must leave our position clear so you can defend and claim your role clearly, there are very few townie roles that allow you to stay in the shadows and doc shouldn’t be one of them for gods sake!

D4

That’s why I Lambu said this:

"Going to work again, but magi's post cornered Demon clearly. I would like to know @desin24 's thoughts on this.

Votekill Demonspeed and Im not locking because not everyone talked yet."

Next suspicious member in my list is Asia and Im slowly losing faith in Qixus though I don’t have proof for that so I’ll shut my mouth for now, both could prove me wrong.

Then desin replies to me with this

"Well my thoughts are mostly wtf. Lawl being mortician kinda threw me off even though I expected him to be a townie. I didn't get to vote since I simply slept through the rest of that day.
To be honest when this demon hunt started I was kinda on demon's side, I didn't trust magi a bit after the Farfalla troll kill and lawl is lawl as we've seen (quite entertaining none the less).
Now that magi spilled his thoughts out a bit more cohesively than "bring the pitchforks" it's starting to look different. Panda's votes are not saying that much without knowing his sanity. His suspicion on Farfalla suggests either paranoid or insane detective.

I'm at 100% ult charge as well. My role doesn't offer any hints unfortunately so the others must provide some help."

Goes with the flow and says the obvious, I could only smirk to that, of course he could be telling the truth but I'll trust my intuition this time: "piensa mal y acertarás" they say in my country.

With this I confirmed desin's mafia condition around 70%
Then daws post happened a little earlier and I confirmed 70% desin’s mafia condition and if its true that daws blocked him last night then 90% as it matches the "no kill" night round

Now, I want you to take this however you want, I have faith in my role but Im not sure if Im right yet. This is not “as clear as day” (100%) like Demon’s lynch in D4 so you guys can take it or follow other leads, I can be more useful and this could prove many things facing D6 results (the mafia/mafias would be very very unlucky if they don’t kill anyone tonight).

That was all, going to sleep.
I'll address the two "in my eyes" guiltiest points you made.
I supported Demon because he made cohesive posts, Magi showed how much of a troll he is by oneshotting farfalla on day 2 and lawl can't be trusted anyway, he was a townie but still lied which made it easy for Demon to defend himself. As you pointed out, I didn't vote that day, wouldn't it have made sense to help my mafia buddy by voting for lawl and jump-starting the bandwagon on him?

Then "everyone who didn't vote for Demon is suspicious". He was pretty surely dead, he had five votes and the rest had 1 IIRC at the time I voted, if I was in kahoots with him I'd vote him to clear myself wouldn't I. Also saying anyone who voted Demon is townie is faulty because there are 2 mafia parties. Just saying.

The only thing that actually makes me look a bit guilty is that daws blocked me. Which means that I didn't save Belserion. In case you 100% trust Daws role as townie prostitute, which I do since no one else has claimed the role and we got to have one at least.

You guys are kinda wasting precious time and energy on me but that's not the issue. It's day 5 and we have pretty little cues to either mafia. I straight up told my role and targets to get people to talk. It's time to get everyone (you included) to talk and lay it bare so we can find irregularities and hope it's not another lawl situation.

Ok seriously going back through 45 pages was an experience lol. But I just needed to see how the two people I suspect have behaved and yeah. I'm still a bit green here so indulge me. These are basically my rambling thoughts anyway. I've been 50/50 on Desin and Lambu. One of them is definitely the Janitor. The only hint I saw Lambu give as to his role was that it was active. Maybe I missed other hints but I don't recall seeing any more. Then there's Desin who was reluctant to share much I guess because he said his role doesn't allow for many hints, something to that effect, but now he's come right out and said he's the sane Doctor. Not sure if I really believe that but still, why was it that on the night his role was blocked there were no killings? I mean I may have missed something but the doctors role shouldn't affect mafia killings should it? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. But yeah thats a little too much of a coincidence. I mean I'm no investigator or anyone important really but I do know things. And I'm pretty confident it's one of those two. So if I should die tonight that's my gift to the town. If we lynch one today and he turns out not to be the janitor then I'm 100% sure it's the other one. As reluctant as I am to believe him, Desin did at least claim a role, so I'll shift 10% in his favor and votekill Lambu.
My role doesn't offer any hints because it's not an investigative or blocking role. I can only protect people and so far I never killed anyone with it and didn't safe anyone either if we trust Daws' prostitute claim.
 

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On N2 when I protected Magi, my charge was only 10% , I figured out something was off, then I understood it when D3 you stated that on N2 you had used your ability on magi too, which means it probably didn't charge because she was already protected by someone else. Then, I wanted to test it on someone aside magi, but on N3 I couldn't think on anyone else, mostly because I was wrong at D3 on Lawl's train and didn't know who I could trust since many didn't reveal ther roles, Also on D4 my charge actually was 100% (which leads me to believe I'm either insane or naive), but after thinking a bit, I decided to use it on Qixus on N4 because I believe she is the politician.

Anyways, I'm going to sleep now, see you all guys later. By they way, @Lovemagi Magi, are you a he or she? :XD you've been adressed by both.
That seems pretty iffy...
You risk losing confirmed townie because someone else is probably protecting them.
With ults available to some by then...there was no sure way to know he would have protection nite 3.
@Lovemagi

since I will be going to sleep I'll just give you the info. I'm a Doc, either a very lucky insane one or actually sane.
Night 1 Target noone, since I was at work that day and missed the phase.
Night 2 Aonori
Night 3 Gnut
Night 4 Belserion

With demon being dead I'm pretty sure it's mostly the silent ones that need to be suspected. Since none of the deads roles have been exposed the janitor/ the janitors must still be alive since those roles get revealed when the janitor dies.
Speaking on which....why wasnt magi your priority nite 2
 

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That seems pretty iffy...
You risk losing confirmed townie because someone else is probably protecting them.
With ults available to some by then...there was no sure way to know he would have protection nite 3.

Speaking on which....why wasnt magi your priority nite 2
Because I didn't know my sanity and still don't know 100%. I wouldn't have wanted to kill a confirmed townie on which detectives could test their sanity on.

I'll be at work from now on, don't know if I will be able to get back before the day ends.

Votekill lambu

There is no strong evidence for anyone to be honest and with people staying rather silent we won't get anywhere. Lambu suddenly getting out of the woods seeing my "true inactivity" felt kind of weird. Seems like an easy way to go now that top suspect demon is gone. If I get lynched and you see that I'm doc remember that we had two janitor kills so no role claim is safe.
Easiest way to get someone lynched would be to say you blocked him on a night nobody died. So keep an eye on Daws especially if anyone else starts claiming prostitute. So far he is the only one, so I kind of trusted his claim.
Not sure what to think of xnuts hider claim either, it's kind of an easy claim for mafia.
Gnut is pretty quiet as well which reminds me a bit of his mafia play style or he's just busy. As I said there is no strong evidence IMO and there won't be if people don't start talking.

The rest is quiet af as we can see with the penalty votes so it's pretty tough to make a judgement. Pretty sure a mafia with is within those ranks though.
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Add-on Asia run being another sane or very lucky insane doc seems quite improbable as well. And we really should focus more on what people say than on those ult charges.
 

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  • Asia Run gets a minor violation for not voting on day 4.
  • xnut gets another minor violation(now 2) for not voting on day 4.
  • Hakuteiken gets a minor violation for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.
  • Aonori gets two minor violations for not voting on day 4 and for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.
votekillDesin
votekill Desin24
Votelock desin24
votekill Lambu
Votekill desin24
Votekill lambu
Votekill Desin
Votekill desin
, votekill Aonori
Btw I vote Desin
Votelock aonori
desin24 7x (Lambu, Aonori, Asia Run, SonOfDaws, xnut, gnut, Qixus)
Aonori 5x (desin24, Lovemagi, penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)
xnut 3x (penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)
Lambu 1x (Belserion)
Asia Run 1x (penalty vote)
Hakuteiken 1x (penalty vote)

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  • Asia Run gets a minor violation for not voting on day 4.
  • xnut gets another minor violation(now 2) for not voting on day 4.
  • Hakuteiken gets a minor violation for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.
  • Aonori gets two minor violations for not voting on day 4 and for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.
desin24 4x (Lambu, Aonori, Asia Run, SonOfDaws)
Aonori 3x (penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)
xnut 3x (penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)
Asia Run 1x (penalty vote)
Hakuteiken 1x (penalty vote)

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Belserion and I voted for Lambu, you may have overlooked it
 

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I think people are misunderstanding me.. I'm not a prostitute. I just blocked him using my ult.
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@Qixus You haven't said anything for a while now.
 

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Inserting another post to avoid hostkill.

Hmm, still completely clueless about the game mostly thanks to Magi, but skimming through the posts, I suspect Belserion, Desin and Asia an outsider.
 

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I think I'm going to vote for you, Q, no matter how things turn out today and tonight. There's still too many people assuming you're a politician, but I'll stick to my guns or die trying..
 

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Or, alternatively, SonOfDaws and co. decided to play a long con game, decided to skip killing someone night phase and came up with "Blocked" scenario.
Then, to not make it obvious, SonOfDaws now goes onto pick another irrelevant target for himself, since Desin is still the most probable person to be killed, anyway.

But don't mind me. That's what I'd be doing in that situation. Tastes differ for each person.
 

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Votekill Desin
 

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Or, alternatively, SonOfDaws and co. decided to play a long con game, decided to skip killing someone night phase and came up with "Blocked" scenario.
Then, to not make it obvious, SonOfDaws now goes onto pick another irrelevant target for himself, since Desin is still the most probable person to be killed, anyway.

But don't mind me. That's what I'd be doing in that situation. Tastes differ for each person.
There's not much to it.. I suspected him so I blocked him. I'm not the one saying blocking him last night confirms he's mafia or some shit like that, you guys are saying that OR saying that I'm saying that. I already suspected him enough to use my ult on him. There being nobody killed tonight is just a cherry on top. Still, I've been asking for people to be more open about who they suspect, but not to much avail.

As for Qixus, she may have been irrelevant to you, but not to me. She's been a suspect of mine since day 2. You guys just leave her alone because she's new and you think she's just an incompetent dipshit. She can do some pretty stupid shit sometimes, but she's not incompetent. I've suspected her thus far and I will continue to do so until I have a good reason not to.
 

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There's not much to it.. I suspected him so I blocked him. I'm not the one saying blocking him last night confirms he's mafia or some shit like that, you guys are saying that OR saying that I'm saying that. I already suspected him enough to use my ult on him. There being nobody killed tonight is just a cherry on top. Still, I've been asking for people to be more open about who they suspect, but not to much avail.

As for Qixus, she may have been irrelevant to you, but not to me. She's been a suspect of mine since day 2. You guys just leave her alone because she's new and you think she's just an incompetent dipshit. She can do some pretty stupid shit sometimes, but she's not incompetent. I've suspected her thus far and I will continue to do so until I have a good reason not to.
I never said you were claiming him to be confirmed Mafia. Quite the opposite since it paves the way as a suggestion, and leaves it up to the imagination of the rest. "No one died in the night that I blocked this person" is a pretty hard emphasis to shake off, to begin with.

Wasn't the Qixus -> Politician conclusion first drawn from a vote you placed? Correct me if this was wrong. It appears she has been relatively off with the game since that happened, so I'm curious as to what bolstered your suspicions about Qixus.
Since I'm more or less out of the loop, if you have a good case to make, it might tempt me to vote for Qixus, as well.
 

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All that being said... it's shit like this
Votekill Desin
that makes me think I made the wrong choice... But of course nobody's here to even notice.
I never said you were claiming him to be confirmed Mafia. Quite the opposite since it paves the way as a suggestion, and leaves it up to the imagination of the rest. "No one died in the night that I blocked this person" is a pretty hard emphasis to shake off, to begin with.

Wasn't the Qixus -> Politician conclusion first drawn from a vote you placed? Correct me if this was wrong. It appears she has been relatively off with the game since that happened, so I'm curious as to what bolstered your suspicions about Qixus.
Since I'm more or less out of the loop, if you have a good case to make, it might tempt me to vote for Qixus, as well.
I'm less sure about desin now than I was before, mainly due to how much he's said.. Again, I wanted to talk about other people's that I haven't looked at as much, but not much was said so I just placed my vote.

No, politicians aren't the only ones who are "persuasive." The mafia gambler does the exact same thing a politician does albeit at a 50% chance. I don't have much else new to say about her due to the inactivity, but I'll try to add more detail this time
 

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No, politicians aren't the only ones who are "persuasive." The mafia gambler does the exact same thing a politician does albeit at a 50% chance. I don't have much else new to say about her due to the inactivity, but I'll try to add more detail this time
I know, I inspected role list to notice that possibility.
However, a Mafia Gambler using the power at that stage when it's pretty much irrelevant looks like even worse of a blunder to me, since Townie Politician isn't a top tier role for the Townies, but any Mafia member has significance within Mafia because of the majority relevance. So I'm not sure if I'd call Qixus "not incompetent" if she was a Mafia Gambler, as the move would be a totally off one in that case.
 

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Ok seriously going back through 45 pages was an experience lol. But I just needed to see how the two people I suspect have behaved and yeah. I'm still a bit green here so indulge me. These are basically my rambling thoughts anyway. I've been 50/50 on Desin and Lambu. One of them is definitely the Janitor. The only hint I saw Lambu give as to his role was that it was active. Maybe I missed other hints but I don't recall seeing any more. Then there's Desin who was reluctant to share much I guess because he said his role doesn't allow for many hints, something to that effect, but now he's come right out and said he's the sane Doctor. Not sure if I really believe that but still, why was it that on the night his role was blocked there were no killings? I mean I may have missed something but the doctors role shouldn't affect mafia killings should it? Please correct me if I'm wrong here. But yeah thats a little too much of a coincidence. I mean I'm no investigator or anyone important really but I do know things. And I'm pretty confident it's one of those two. So if I should die tonight that's my gift to the town. If we lynch one today and he turns out not to be the janitor then I'm 100% sure it's the other one. As reluctant as I am to believe him, Desin did at least claim a role, so I'll shift 10% in his favor and votekill Lambu.
Really? I think I slipped up a lot about my role already, more than I should actually. I said that my role was active, I mentioned lawl about his night actions and in my very first day I spilled the beans like an idiot and questioned my sanity...

@desin24 the difference between you and I regarding activity is that I may dont have time to comment often, but when I do I make my own suspicions and look for the towns benefit, you simply watch and do as most people decided.

Hell, even that moment when a double-kill was incoming (day 2) you had the opportunity to break the balance but voted daws like "WHY" and I regretted votelocking lawlett that day for that very reason.

And that situation of D3 is the clear hint, I'll repeat again, it doesn't matter if lawl was trolling (and he was as he showed me in his reply about his night target saying he targeted demon: imposible). The most suspicious of the two by real accusations was clearly demon, so why save him? Its either one really was clueless or one was really mafia. I have almost completely confirmed that belserion is townie based in that situation.

So no, you are dissuading me with that.
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You are not* dissuading, typo
 
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