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[Purity of Magi]

@Aonori If you targetted Demon on N1 and got innocent as result, and targetted me on N2 (after my troll kill on farfalla which made me clear that I was townie) and you got guiltyon me as result then why didn't you go after Demon on D3 with your votekill instead of Lawlett? One of them would be lynched anyway. It could have been extremely crucial on that point for you to have Demon lynched which could confirm your sanity. I seriously do not understand your logic why you didn't do that, wtf dude?

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

Okay, just made quick a list of the roles and roles claim


Roles:

Lovemagi – Day viligante
Hakuteiken – Jesus
Lawlett – Mortician
Panda – Detective
Farfalla – Townie pirate
Kira – Apprentice
Zasz – Santa Claus
Vandred – Mafia Boss
Demonspeed – Mafia escort

Unknown roles:

Erinyes - ??
Holt – ??

What people gave as hints or claim to be:

Qixus – Politician (I putted this one here as well, just in case)
Desin – said active role – claimed to be doctor
Aonori – Didn't saw any hints in the previous days (unless I missed it) – claimed to be detective
Xnut – said passive role – claimed to be hider
Asia Run – said active and helpful role – claimed to be doctor
SonofDaws – said passive role – claimed to be BP
Gnut – said night role
Belserion – said night role
Lambu – said he has faith in his role, can be useful

Not sure if I forgot something, but just woke up so yeah.. let's see if I feel like trying this game as yesterday since atm I don't xd

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Anyways, I'm going to sleep now, see you all guys later. By they way, @Lovemagi Magi, are you a he or she? you've been adressed by both.

Hm, if you ask me.. many people speculate that I'm quite a being. '-'

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Well since I was right about Vandred and Demon.. Hm..... not sure why I should be wrong with two people I have in mind.. but mweh.. I don't think I'm gonna make it with my speculation/calculation post. I'm too tired for that. Gonna take a short nap again. A D I O S.

 

[SonOfDaws]

@Hakuteiken

Oops.
Didnt realize I wasnt supposed to pm the vote. Herp derp.

As people noted before, if she had PMed her vote then GrySun or WithYouInSpirit would have surely told her that that's not how you vote. It's also pretty early and pretty prominent in the rules.

Have fun with the eating and sleeping.

Oh boy, the pressure is on me. Im sure @Vandred is happy about this turn of events

Saying that I sound like Mafia sounds like something an actual mafia would say.

Methinks you might just be.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 22, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 22, 2017 ---

So... do I just say who I want to vote for?

These responses just seem fake to me, but regardless, they're shitposts. They're activity just for activity's sake and not a legitimate response to suspicion. Does she ever legitimately response to suspicion? Sort of:

Wow. R00d.
Sorry I'm such a noob at this.... I guess that's that.

They always go after the newbies.
Woe is me...

Two things of note:
One, this is her first game and yet she says she says "they always go after the newbies"..
Two, she just plays up the pity and the noob cards.. Pretty basic mafia play... I feel like if she were really townie then she would be actually trying to provide real responses to people. It's not as if she's not used to responding to criticism and text walls... She comes from the TG sub, same as me, and there's plenty of text walls and theory arguments in there to go around.

Oh ok. I votekill zasz then.

Oh wait. Now I feel dumb, I was looking at yesterdays vote stuff. Damn.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 22, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 22, 2017 ---

I guess I votekill Lawlett

1. Plays it up yet again.
2. She's definitely seen the votes from day 1 before posting her stupid vote for zasz otherwise how would she know to vote for him. It's not like she's played her before. She saw the next day's vote as well so there's no chance of her thinking it carried over or something.
3. Bandwagon. No explanation given.

Then there's Van.. you know, the dead mafia boss. They had an exchange (I quoted some of what Qixus said in it above) before this that seemed a bit odd, but afterward, when I suggested letting Qixus stay up there by herself with 3 penalties and having her get lynched he said:

Alright, now the chances about Qixus being mafia or townie have become exactly 50% for me. Which is why I don't think what Daws proposed is a good idea.

I am almost entirely convinced she is not the bomb. The situation is quite reversed, actually - if nobody votes her, I am just as certain that someone else is very much at risk of dying instead.

When I asked him to elaborate, he said this:

Nope, but I'm sure you could put the pieces together if you checked my posts from this day and the previous one.

...
Spoiler alert: There were no pieces to put together. He's defending her. On night 1, they gave her a game plan to follow which very clearly had her primarily just ham up the noob and pity cards.

That's all just day 2 stuff, but her posts after that is just more of the same just in less frequency; shitposts, noob card, and ofc bandwagons with little to no explanation.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

That is why I still suspect Q.

 

[Lambu]

@Lovemagi I said more than that about my role, I just didn't claim it

Yes you did, about your night role, if you keep saying otherwise I'll confirm you have really big reasons to lie (and its definitely not because you have good role for the town).

Panda's death and the revelation of her being detective leaves me uneasy about telling and I already slipped a lot with my first post about my role, but I'll say its active aswell.

In the first day one more clue, my third post of the game, I didn't really want to refer to it because I fcked up.

to farfalla

Noooooo
Just because I dont trust you in this game doesn't mean you dont have a great waifu taste


About my role I think I know how it works.

 

[gnut]

If they are both docs....they are pretty bogus.
Dont prioritize the confirmed townie....one because someone else should be protecting magi the other doesnt want to risk killing.
Then neither really has anything to say about qixus claim(so obvious both believe it)but neither protect qixus...

I think desin is more suspect at this point tho...i cant get those likes for vandreds posts out of my head.

Votekill desin

 

[Purity of Magi]

Honestly, I find this bandwagon on Desin a bit too convenient and feel extremely uneasy about it...

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

If they are both docs....they are pretty bogus.
Dont prioritize the confirmed townie....one because someone else should be protecting magi the other doesnt want to risk killing.
Then neither really has anything to say about qixus claim(so obvious both believe it)but neither protect qixus...

I think desin is more suspect at this point tho...i cant get those likes for vandreds posts out of my head.

Votekill desin

Did you know that Aonori also liked Demon's post quite often? Even about the Mortician part while I attacked him that he was so wrong about that.
I just don't get why he didn't go for Demon on D3 and went for Lawlett instead while he targetted me on D2 and got guilty as result and I was a confirmed townie. It should already made his sanity quite clear after that in all honesty... and yet he went for Lawlett instead of Demon? While if he went for Demon on that day that he could pretty much clear his sanity for real.

Does someone know if Ao always plays this clumsy? Only played once with him and that was when he was a newbie. He gives me an uneasy feeling..

Gonna just do a placeholder on Aonori.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

But than again looking at likes isn't really a solid option altho sometimes it works tho.. mweh. Honestly, I'm too tired for this.. screw it. xd

 

[Qixus]

@Hakuteiken

As people noted before, if she had PMed her vote then GrySun or WithYouInSpirit would have surely told her that that's not how you vote. It's also pretty early and pretty prominent in the rules.


These responses just seem fake to me, but regardless, they're shitposts. They're activity just for activity's sake and not a legitimate response to suspicion. Does she ever legitimately response to suspicion? Sort of:

Two things of note:
One, this is her first game and yet she says she says "they always go after the newbies"..
Two, she just plays up the pity and the noob cards.. Pretty basic mafia play... I feel like if she were really townie then she would be actually trying to provide real responses to people. It's not as if she's not used to responding to criticism and text walls... She comes from the TG sub, same as me, and there's plenty of text walls and theory arguments in there to go around.


1. Plays it up yet again.
2. She's definitely seen the votes from day 1 before posting her stupid vote for zasz otherwise how would she know to vote for him. It's not like she's played her before. She saw the next day's vote as well so there's no chance of her thinking it carried over or something.
3. Bandwagon. No explanation given.

Then there's Van.. you know, the dead mafia boss. They had an exchange (I quoted some of what Qixus said in it above) before this that seemed a bit odd, but afterward, when I suggested letting Qixus stay up there by herself with 3 penalties and having her get lynched he said:

When I asked him to elaborate, he said this:

...
Spoiler alert: There were no pieces to put together. He's defending her. On night 1, they gave her a game plan to follow which very clearly had her primarily just ham up the noob and pity cards.

That's all just day 2 stuff, but her posts after that is just more of the same just in less frequency; shitposts, noob card, and ofc bandwagons with little to no explanation.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

That is why I still suspect Q.

Bruh, half of these responses are while I'm at work. I gotta make it quick and chppy.

Btw I vote Desin
I'm at work right now even. (this new shift is killing me)


You can suspect me... but I mean. You should already know who I am since... y'know... Day 2 I think.

 

[Purity of Magi]

Seriously, this girl XD

I'm amazed that people are ignoring some things here. Oh well, honestly, I'm not gonna pull another Jalt tl;dr calculation post.
Also, at this point it's probably impossible to do a tie. *Shrugs* Well I'm a mexican devil after all so idc atm~ :^)

PS: Jalt stands for = James/Holt 'cuz both do tl;dr post + calculations ~~

 

[GrySun]

Spoiler: 9 out of 11 votes

• Asia Run gets a minor violation for not voting on day 4.
• xnut gets another minor violation(now 2) for not voting on day 4.
• Hakuteiken gets a minor violation for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.
• Aonori gets two minor violations for not voting on day 4 and for not posting at least 3 times on day 4.

votekillDesin

votekill Desin24

Votelock desin24

votekill Lambu

Votekill desin24

Votekill lambu

Votekill Desin

Votekill desin

Btw I vote Desin

desin24 7x (Lambu, Aonori, Asia Run, SonOfDaws, xnut, gnut, Qixus)

Aonori 3x (penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)

xnut 3x (penalty vote, penalty vote, penalty vote)

Lambu 2x (Belserion, desin24)

Asia Run 1x (penalty vote)

Hakuteiken 1x (penalty vote)

2 hours left.

Players left to vote:@Hakuteiken @Lovemagi

 

[Purity of Magi]

@GrySun I said I did a placeholder on Aonori that's why I made his name bolt. ;p

But okay, should have said placeholder - votekill Aonori mb. So here, votekill Aonori.

 

[desin24]

Honestly, I find this bandwagon on Desin a bit too convenient and feel extremely uneasy about it...

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

Did you know that Aonori also liked Demon's post quite often? Even about the Mortician part while I attacked him that he was so wrong about that.
I just don't get why he didn't go for Demon on D3 and went for Lawlett instead while he targetted me on D2 and got guilty as result and I was a confirmed townie. It should already made his sanity quite clear after that in all honesty... and yet he went for Lawlett instead of Demon? While if he went for Demon on that day that he could pretty much clear his sanity for real.

Does someone know if Ao always plays this clumsy? Only played once with him and that was when he was a newbie. He gives me an uneasy feeling..

Gonna just do a placeholder on Aonori.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

But than again looking at likes isn't really a solid option altho sometimes it works tho.. mweh. Honestly, I'm too tired for this.. screw it. xd

Votelock aonori

It's already done Magi, good luck with this train wreck.
Dead people pad shall be fun

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Jfi I'm at work which is why I won't write any more responses.

 

[Aonori]

@Aonori If you targetted Demon on N1 and got innocent as result, and targetted me on N2 (after my troll kill on farfalla which made me clear that I was townie) and you got guiltyon me as result then why didn't you go after Demon on D3 with your votekill instead of Lawlett? One of them would be lynched anyway. It could have been extremely crucial on that point for you to have Demon lynched which could confirm your sanity. I seriously do not understand your logic why you didn't do that, wtf dude?

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

Okay, just made quick a list of the roles and roles claim


Roles:

Lovemagi – Day viligante
Hakuteiken – Jesus
Lawlett – Mortician
Panda – Detective
Farfalla – Townie pirate
Kira – Apprentice
Zasz – Santa Claus
Vandred – Mafia Boss
Demonspeed – Mafia escort

Unknown roles:

Erinyes - ??
Holt – ??

What people gave as hints or claim to be:

Qixus – Politician (I putted this one here as well, just in case)
Desin – said active role – claimed to be doctor
Aonori – Didn't saw any hints in the previous days (unless I missed it) – claimed to be detective
Xnut – said passive role – claimed to be hider
Asia Run – said active and helpful role – claimed to be doctor
SonofDaws – said passive role – claimed to be BP
Gnut – said night role
Belserion – said night role
Lambu – said he has faith in his role, can be useful

Not sure if I forgot something, but just woke up so yeah.. let's see if I feel like trying this game as yesterday since atm I don't xd

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Hm, if you ask me.. many people speculate that I'm quite a being. '-'

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Well since I was right about Vandred and Demon.. Hm..... not sure why I should be wrong with two people I have in mind.. but mweh.. I don't think I'm gonna make it with my speculation/calculation post. I'm too tired for that. Gonna take a short nap again. A D I O S.

Simple because Trollett´s trolls worked against him and made me suspicious of him, I knew very well one of the two (Lawlett and Demon), was mafia, but the fact I got a guilty veredict on you didnt help me see Lawlett as townie, for all I knew at the time, I could´ve had a different sanity and the odds of picking the mafia boss on my first investigation, is super low, it would be a high risk gamble, eitherway I knew that if Lawlett died and he wasnt mafia then Demon would go next and he would be mafia, when he went out and I saw he was mafia boss, I realized it was very likely you were townie.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Honestly, I find this bandwagon on Desin a bit too convenient and feel extremely uneasy about it...

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

Did you know that Aonori also liked Demon's post quite often? Even about the Mortician part while I attacked him that he was so wrong about that.
I just don't get why he didn't go for Demon on D3 and went for Lawlett instead while he targetted me on D2 and got guilty as result and I was a confirmed townie. It should already made his sanity quite clear after that in all honesty... and yet he went for Lawlett instead of Demon? While if he went for Demon on that day that he could pretty much clear his sanity for real.

Does someone know if Ao always plays this clumsy? Only played once with him and that was when he was a newbie. He gives me an uneasy feeling..

Gonna just do a placeholder on Aonori.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

But than again looking at likes isn't really a solid option altho sometimes it works tho.. mweh. Honestly, I'm too tired for this.. screw it. xd

Yup, this is the way I play, detective I´d rather investigate the top posters more which more influence on the day phase, rather than investigate the other players, at least it´s good for rooting out some mafia and I do it, because of 2 reasons:

1. If your playing with newbies they could fall for mafia kun, doing this (happened to me once on my first time as well);
2. If you can help legitimize the more active players soon, mafia will lose potential lynch targets there.

Of course I would only do this if I´m suspicious I can get backstabbed by mafia there, If I´m confident I wont, I will move on to other targets, I dont see a bad use of my role like this, last game I did similar plays and I hardly saw any complains lol.

 

[Purity of Magi]

HOLD ON RIGHT THERE. This is such a illogic reason you are telling me there. It doesn't make any sense at all, wtf.

Even if Lawlett is a troll, even if I trolled on D2, it doesn't change the fact that you got guilty on me on N2 and innocent on Demon on N1. Saying you could have had a different sanity, should be out of option since I'm a CONFIRMED before N2 because of my troll kill on Farfalla which already confirmed my role in the game. Also, any insane detective would get guilty on townies and innocent on Mafia. If for example Demon was a mafia boss you would have gotten guilty because a mafia boss are equal to townies in investigations role. I might would have understand your reason for going for Lawlett instead of Demon if that was the case, but the fact that you are saying that you got innocent on Demon on N1 changes this whole situation. The fact that you literally ignored your result on Demon and me .........

Also, funny that you mention that Demon is mafia boss since he was NOT a mafia boss, but a MAFIA ESCORT.

@Hakuteiken if you come, please votekill Aonori. We need a tie on this matter.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

You are making yourself extremely supicious with this matter. My god after reading this.. you sound like as a obvious mafia, holy fck...

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Nvm. Even if Haku would vote you, there wouldn't be a tie.. if Desin is a townie... no even if he would be a townie/mafia at this case, the fact stays you literally ignored your whole result on Demon and me and giving an illogical reason.

 

[Aonori]

HOLD ON RIGHT THERE. This is such a illogic reason you are telling me there. It doesn't make any sense at all, wtf.

Even if Lawlett is a troll, even if I trolled on D2, it doesn't change the fact that you got guilty on me on N2 and innocent on Demon on N1. Saying you could have had a different sanity, should be out of option since I'm a CONFIRMED before of N2 because of my troll kill on Farfalla which already confirmed my role in the game. Also, any insane detective would get guilty on townies and innocent on Mafia. If for example Demon was a mafia boss you would have gotten guilty because a mafia boss are equal to townies in investigations role. I might would have understand your reason for going for Lawlett instead of Demon if that was the case, but the fact that you are saying that you got innocent on Demon on N1 changes this whole situation. The fact that you literally ignored your result on Demon and me .........

Also, funny that you mention that Demon is mafia boss since he was NOT a mafia boss, but a MAFIA ESCORT.

@Hakuteiken if you come, please votekill Aonori. We need a tie on this matter.

No, Mafia boss is seen as inocent in the detective´s eyes, last time I checked, unless we had a rule change or paranoid detect. ignores that and sees him as guilty all together, but I dont even know if that is possible.

Sorry my mistake, my sanity is insane detect. then, and my veredicts are just the oposite, thank god, for that and that I wasnt actually paranoid.

Now here are some facts, Demon was dead eitherway, after Lawlett died, so thats how I see it and what you are saying about me not intervening enough, is really dangerous you know, first if I had intervened as you wanted, mafia would probably want to see me dead sooner, really bad play for detective and if I had straight up legitimize you at the time you would´ve gotten a target at your back as well, why I´m being blamed for playing safe with this role again? Did you forget one detective was killed in night phase 3 perhaps?

 

[Belserion]

HOLD ON RIGHT THERE. This is such a illogic reason you are telling me there. It doesn't make any sense at all, wtf.

Even if Lawlett is a troll, even if I trolled on D2, it doesn't change the fact that you got guilty on me on N2 and innocent on Demon on N1. Saying you could have had a different sanity, should be out of option since I'm a CONFIRMED before N2 because of my troll kill on Farfalla which already confirmed my role in the game. Also, any insane detective would get guilty on townies and innocent on Mafia. If for example Demon was a mafia boss you would have gotten guilty because a mafia boss are equal to townies in investigations role. I might would have understand your reason for going for Lawlett instead of Demon if that was the case, but the fact that you are saying that you got innocent on Demon on N1 changes this whole situation. The fact that you literally ignored your result on Demon and me .........

Also, funny that you mention that Demon is mafia boss since he was NOT a mafia boss, but a MAFIA ESCORT.

@Hakuteiken if you come, please votekill Aonori. We need a tie on this matter.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

You are making yourself extremely supicious with this matter. My god after reading this.. you sound like as a obvious mafia, holy fck...

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017 ---

Nvm. Even if Haku would vote you, there wouldn't be a tie.. if Desin is a townie... no even if he would be a townie/mafia at this case, the fact stays you literally ignored your whole result on Demon and me and giving an illogical reason.

It's a bit funny but i dismissed Aonori because i figured he was confirmed detective, but you really are convincing in your arguments

 

[Purity of Magi]

You claim to be an insane detective, so if you investigated a mafia boss you would had two guilty. BUT DEMON IS NOT A MAFIA BOSS BUT MAFIA ESCORT. You literally ignore the fact that you said that Demon is a mafia boss yet he is an mafia escort. I never said I blame you for playing your role safe, the fact stays that you are literally talking so much nonsense right now, not making sense at all after I pointed that out. You got two different result on me and Demon, yet you went after lawlett because of his 'troll' nature, while you could get a clear image of your sanity if you went for Demon on that day, since you should have already knew what sanity you were because of my CONFIRMATION AS TOWNIE.

You still didn't give any logic reason for not going on him at D3. Because what you are saying is ultra bullshit. I better hope you are mafia..

 

[Aonori]

Trying to get the detective lynched is a extremely bad play magi, clumsy or not, assuming I can even live tonight I should be able to bring results on Qixus, which town desperately needs also if I die, mafia will most likely try to target you and Sonofdaws or Hakuteiken, since you are the most legit townies right now.

 

[Purity of Magi]

It's a bit funny but i dismissed Aonori because i figured he was confirmed detective, but you really are convincing in your arguments

No literally, what he is saying doesn't make sense at all and the day is almost over. We could bring a tie in here tho.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

Trying to get the detective lynched is a extremely bad play magi, clumsy or not, assuming I can even live tonight I should be able to bring results on Qixus, which town desperately needs also if I die, mafia will most likely try to target you and Sonofdaws or Hakuteiken, since you are the most legit townies right now.

I mean, have you even read your reasons that you said to me? Do you find these LOGIC reasons lol? Because I totally don't LOL.

 

[Aonori]

You claim to be an insane detective, so if you investigated a mafia boss you would had two guilty. BUT DEMON IS NOT A MAFIA BOSS BUT MAFIA ESCORT. You literally ignore the fact that you said that Demon is a mafia boss yet he is an mafia escort. I never said I blame you for playing your role safe, the fact stays that you are literally talking so much nonsense right now, not making sense at all after I pointed that out. You got two different result on me and Demon, yet you went after lawlett because of his 'troll' nature, while you could get a clear image of your sanity if you went for Demon on that day, since you should have already knew what sanity you were because of my CONFIRMATION AS TOWNIE.

You still didn't give any logic reason for not going on him at D3. Because what you are saying is ultra bullshit. I better hope you are mafia..

Your hopes are on the wrong lynch, all you will have if you lynch me is a dead detective.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 26, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 26, 2017 ---

How much for a logic reason for not going after him on day 3 does the word "inocent" works for you? And he was dead eitherway and my judgment on 1 of the 2 being mafia was right.

 

[Purity of Magi]

And yet you still aren't giving me any solid reasons why your reasons should be logic? You are literally ignoring the fact that you could had your sanity cleared if you went for Demon (which it should already have been clear after D2....) instead of Lawlett, but yet you went for Lawlett because of his trollish nature? Wtf dude.

Dude you better be mafia... because after reading that illogcal crap post.... if you're townie.. oh boy.. please no.

 

[Aonori]

And yet you still aren't giving me any solid reasons why your reasons should be logic? You are literally ignoring the fact that you could had your sanity cleared if you went for Demon (which it should already have been clear after D2....) instead of Lawlett, but yet you went for Lawlett because of his trollish nature? Wtf dude.

Dude you better be mafia... because after reading that illogcal crap post.... if you're townie.. oh boy.. please no.

Believe it.