Final Match Mikasa Ackerman vs Holo

[Spirit]

We suppose to see the results?

What even is Xenforo Poll Security

 

[GrySun]

We suppose to see the results?

Tell me what the standing is. I havent voted yet and cant see..

 

[Vici]

What even is Xenforo Poll Security

I don't mind that I can see it but that result so far

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Tell me what the standing is. I havent voted yet and cant see..

Vote for Holo and see for yourself how important your vote is

 

[GrySun]

Vote for Holo and see for yourself how important your vote is

? What a farce.

 

[Hermit]

Being cute. Who doesnt want a cute waifu?

Being understanding and kind. Someone who can read the mood, can understand if her man is happy or sad, is doing fine or having troubles, and responds appropriately

Being interesting, consistently. And im not talking about having an interesting life or backstory(though that doesnt hurt), i am talking about having an interesting personality that can continuously keep you engaged.

She can go from this:

To this the next minute:

"Aquarius women are an exciting blend of mischief and deep thoughts. If you're looking for mental stimulation, fun and sexiness in one package, then this is the girl for you. Unpredictable, broadminded and often a little 'different' they are usually very intellectual and can be critcized as cold or distant by those who are more emotionally inclined, while being appreciated by those looking for an independent partner."

Being fun. Why spend your time with a woman who isnt a joy to be around? Having quiet, loving moments are great, but is that all your relationship is gonna have? Never gonna joke and play around with each other? Never gonna tease each other or have a battle of wits? Never gonna just have a laugh?

Mikasa fits all your descriptions

 

[Vici]

Ah memorable headbutt from Eren....Eren....Eren...

 

[SirSamuel016]

Wew, that's when Eren headbutted Mikasa. Smh, who knew you were into abuse like that, You should be ASHAMED.

 

[Seven777]

Was referring to a cute personality, not overall appearance(not that i dont enjoy that too).

How does this relate to understanding and kind? She's happy her lover is alive, thats not understanding, nor is it kind.
In fact as i recall she was pretty brutal when she realized Eren was still hung up on Annie and didnt want to fight her.

She can go from this:

To this the next minute:

"Aquarius women are an exciting blend of mischief and deep thoughts. If you're looking for mental stimulation, fun and sexiness in one package, then this is the girl for you. Unpredictable, broadminded and often a little 'different' they are usually very intellectual and can be critcized as cold or distant by those who are more emotionally inclined, while being appreciated by those looking for an independent partner."

Yandere is interesting i suppose, if a little disturbing, too bad she barely ever shows her "dere" side though.
I dont believe in astrology.

Mikasa fits all your descriptions

Ha, i suppose having a waifu who can take a headbutt could be fun.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 28, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 28, 2017 ---

Apply Mikasa's devotion to you. She would love you. She would be loyal to you. A confidante. Someone who would stand with you even at your lowest point.

95% of the waifus in this tournament would do the exact same, including Holo. I dont consider Mikasa's devotion bad, i just acknowledge that any waifu worth her salt has that same trait.
Fair enough on the rest, personal preference and all that. I was just asking, as someone who doesnt understand Mikasa's appeal, if anyone could put into words what qualities she has as a waifu, what is it they see in her that makes them think they'd enjoy being around her.

 

[Lambu]

@Belserion yep, bashing at Mikasa saying she's a one-dimensional character might be a little out of place, she's more complex than what it seems at first sight, but @Seven777 did bring the key statement here.
If you put aside devotion all her other personality traits are simply not engaging, I would not feel attracted to Mikasa nor would wish to be with her romantically if it wasn't for that.

She's a soldier with very straight priorities, protect her loved ones and keep on living, as I said in my previous post I can understand why she's like this but that doesn't justify that it makes her option a narrow path that I would get bored of quite quickly. @Zeref Spriggan and @Emperor Spriggan (lol at the similar names) hit the mark with the election being something personal, there's people that would be happy with someone like that, but many others that "bash" or neglect Mikasa think it makes her character a not appealing option for a girlfriend/waifu. I personally find her a nice option (I voted her more than once in this event) but definitely not the best, there are other types of woman I would like a lot better.

On the other hand you have Holo, a goddess that feels more human than the actual humans in her world.

She's the incarnation of the wolf-goddess of harvest, living in a world of neverending change for centuries, learning all kinds of things in her journeys with different people; helping them, protecting them, visiting all kind of places and understanding the real nature of humans.
She's then forsaken by the people that owes her their prosperity and she understands it, actually feels happy for them because they managed to leave that dependance behind, but at the same time she feels sad and frustrated, because it seems like she's being erased from that world. She's a myth of older times that the church would burn if they knew of her existance and no-one would accept her for what she is, she truly is lonely.

Thats why she wants to go back to the north, to her home, so she can meet back with her family even if (this is not much of a spoiler) they are, of course, dead for a long long time, she just wants to get rid of that solitude even if it is during that journey with Lawrence that feels like an excuse, a dream: she knows it will end sooner or later, either they part ways in life or he dies at the end of his mortal life. Loneliness is her curse and she knows it very well, but that doesn't break her.
Instead of despairing over it she faces Life like the series of good experiences you have. She's a hedonist that would live life to its fullest and take advantage of everything at her disposition, that means tricking people for example, and she would keep learning to increase her wisdom.

This wisdom is her pride and she would protect her title with all her means (she will often reject Lawrence help at the beggining of their relationship and will decide to figure things out on her own) but she's not excesively arrogant about her intelligence and when she makes a mistake she will feel extremely bad about it. A good example is when she starts joking about wolf-attacks with Lawrence when they were travelling to Pazzio, the moment she notices that Lawrence's friends were victims of the wolves she feels ashamed of herself and would swear she will never talk about it ever again, begging for forgiveness.
She's still proud of her skills though, and values promises over any other thing, if someone should win her trust she would do anything to make him happy and wealthy.

She also knows how to read the mood at any time and tries her best to keep a cheerful atmosphere with her sassy and witty attitude, she would often argue with Lawrence about his abstinence towards money and encourage him to do new things. When the time comes she would even throw her pride off and do embarrasing stuff to make the people around her lift their hopes up and improve the enviroment.
Of course she has faults as a person, such as some jealousy towards women that gets too close to her man, but in the end she blames human innate stupidity for her sentiments and herself for feeling that way. Some of Holo's reflexions are pretty much one of the primal points of the series.

And with this and more, she never stops growing as a person, the Holo you know at the end of Volume 1 is the same and so so different from the one that marries Lawrence at the end of the series, when finally chooses to enjoy the little time they have for themselves, have a child with him and run a little shop at a town in the north...

I understand this is not the best character contest, when we take into account the context of both characters one can assume they are both very good for their own series but I cant help but feel I would have a lot more fun and live a more interesting life with Holo by my side, I can't really put it with other words.
Mikasa is a good character and deserves to be loved (and oh I can agree with her returning the feelings tenfold) but everything that surrounds Holo's character is so fascinating... she's literally a girl I would wish she was real.

I hope I made my points clear

#healthysaltforever

 

[Demonspeed]

I mostly agree with what @Seven777 said about waifu qualities, I also agree with what @Belserion said: Mikasa would treat you like Eren.

I will explain again why I find Holo better than Mikasa. And for this mentioning Eren is inevitable, some of you might disagree but I also think he is at the core of her character.

How is Eren in the first place? Eren is hot blooded, rash, brave and immature. Mikasa is cold blooded, generally stoic and rational(She is generally calmer than most unless Eren is in danger). Her cold and aloof personality is there to compensate Eren's, because without companions like that he would probably be dead. EMA is a trio and they work well because of their different flaws and qualities. Mikasa loves Eren, but Eren himself is not in love with her. When she supports him, she is more of a guardian and Eren finds it annoying or excessive at times. She always came to protect him ever since they are living together.

Manga readers up to date or anime watchers who completed S2 know how EMA works in general. Eren is at the center and he is a troublemaker, he gets in trouble then his best friends need to catch up and clean his mess. They are best friends but also his guardians, two different types of guardians.

I am rather indifferent to Eren and Mikasa's relationship but it works rather well because she, as the calm one reacts to what the hot blooded Eren does. Action scenes also help for this, especially with Mikasa's skills..


Mikasa might be an interesting character, but I don't find her interesting as a waifu compared to Holo. Considering my own personality and the world we live in, I don't believe I would enjoy her company as much as Holo's. Holo is talkative, knowledgeable and I love what she says in general (@Jammin listed a few quotes in a previous post, there is another one I love on @Lambu's sig too). She is not perfect, but all of this makes her incredibly entertaining to me. When I picture Mikasa instead of her, Mikasa just seems boring. And I am not as immature, rash and hot blooded as Eren to do crazy things daily and have her shows her sweeter side. Sure, she would be extremely devoted to me, but I could never prefer her over Holo for that alone.

 

[Brandish μ]

A picture worth a thousand words.

 

[kira]

and Holo's touch is worth them alllllllllll

 

[Nii]

The salt level in this thread is amazing xD

Anyway, Lambu had a good campagin but Belse's was better. Holo is a good character, but Mikasa's better. I see a few reasons to vote for Holo, but I see even more for Mikasa. I think Holo would be worthy of winning the awards, but Mikasa would be more worthy. Simple math: My vote goes to Mikasa

 

[GrySun]

The salt level in this thread is amazing xD

Anyway, Lambu had a good campagin but Belse's was better. Holo is a good character, but Mikasa's better. I see a few reasons to vote for Holo, but I see even more for Mikasa. I think Holo would be worthy of winning the awards, but Mikasa would be more worthy. Simple math: My vote goes to Mikasa

Let me translate this post: "I am mad because Yui lost to her, so I'm voting Mikasa".

 

[Nii]

Not really, considering I voted for Mikasa in every round

 

[Demonspeed]

Not really, considering I voted for Mikasa in every round

Even when she faced Saber?

 

[Nii]

You're making me eat my own words Demon... just checked and indeed, I did vote for Saber... I guess my inner fanboy prevailed there

 

[Lambu]

Oh damn, I've noticed the lack of Holo pics in this thread, I didn't even give a single one in that big ass post sorry about that.

Here

Could be casual

Cute

Deep

and well...

wowowowow enough, you get the idea

 

[Battou]

I think i found mikasa and holo arguing

 

[Styx]

You're making me eat my own words Demon... just checked and indeed, I did vote for Saber... I guess my inner fanboy prevailed there

It happens to all of us. Embrace your inner fan! You will feel enlightened.

I think i found mikasa and holo arguing