Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Demon Hunter]

What's the infinity spell?

I'm not aware that he had one, unless you are talking about the nukes he launched on Hargeon.

don't bother.

if we go by her logic, Acnologia > Goku

all that is well and good but his durability in his human form is trash.

 

[Woodenstool]

What's the infinity spell?

I'm not aware that he had one, unless you are talking about the nukes he launched on Hargeon.

Dude, those aren't nukes. A single nuclear bomb from the US arensal can wipe out the fairy tail verse. A single nuclear bomb could level Magnolia in seconds. The fireball travels to over 30,000 feet in the air, not a single attack in this story did that.

So don't call those attacks nukes.

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don't bother.

if we go by her logic, Acnologia > Goku

all that is well and good but his durability in his human form is trash.

That's what he's saying, he's ignoring the fact that authors make characters weaker. Dragon ball haters downplay Goku saying he's bullet level even though in base, he's multiversal considering he beat Hit without Kio Ken x10, absorbed super Sayian God into his base, apply ssj multipliers....

Acnologia in human form is immune to magic. In a fraction of a second he slaughtered and disembowned a character stronger than Natsu. He then absorbed an planetary sized dimension of time magic and controlled rivaling even Zerefs. (Zeref controlled the ravines of time before he died btw)

This is how Acnologia died, he was weakened by the author, Supressed, and split into two forms.

 

[Seven777]

Dude, those aren't nukes. A single nuclear bomb from the US arensal can wipe out the fairy tail verse. A single nuclear bomb could level Magnolia in seconds. The fireball travels to over 30,000 feet in the air, not a single attack in this story did that.

So don't call those attacks nukes.

Everyone calls attacks with big AoE nukes, i dont get the issue.
Oh and there plenty of nukes out there with a fireball radius under 100 meters, so Acnologia's random shots easily qualify as nukes.

 

[Demon Hunter]

hehe Natsu one shotted infinite power.

in fact, he was nerfed against Acnologia.

 

[Woodenstool]

Zeref rewrote reality.

 

[LaGOAT]

Acnologia extracting Igneel's soul is technically an advantage in itself because his DS magic was made to handicap dragons. That's no different than Natsu being able to naturally eat the flames of another fire wizard. The point is that Acnologia couldn't beat Igneel in his prime, so he had to resort to a technique specifically created to "weaken dragons".


As for the GMG dragons, they would have killed Gajeel and several other dragon slayers if Ultear had not turned the clock back 1 minute.

Not to mention, without Atlas Flame teaming up with Natsu, the entire human race would have been wiped out by the dragons that day.


Hades was beating Team Natsu and Laxus before the exceeds destroyed his heart. Given the circumstances, Hades performed way better than Acnologia did in the last arc.



The "whole continent and 7 DS" had just finished fighting a large-scale war with another nation... Most of them were severely injured and looked ready to collapse.

Meanwhile, Dragon Acnologia just got a major power up from eating the Ravines of Time. How is that fair?


If anything, Acnologia should have an even easier time beating "the continent and 7 DS" with that kind of power. And he still couldn't kill at least 1 fodder by the end of the day.

Sorry for the late reply been busy lately.

So??? that his ability u can't take that away from him he has the ability to do that just becuase igneel might be physical stonger/better in CQC than acno doesn't mean he stronger. Is isn't all about physical combat in a fight.

So that wasn't becuase of plot? So that isn't a excuse acno but it is for the GMG dragons. But they couldn't kill fodders tho? Or oneshot any of a DS? Natsu getting help from Alta's flame is irrelevant.

Hades was winning but couldn't put them down plus like u to bring up injuy and exchausted they all wasn't 100% (except laxus). He perform a better lol ok? But destroy a island with a causal roar back then if it wasnt for POF fairy Sphere lol oook..

Lol better feats that ingeel ever produced the rest are speculation that U don't have proof of. Plus he was split into 2. dragon form and human form.

Again that guy was hit by plot hiro couldn't kill off makarov u except him to make acno kill any1 at that point?. Both me and u know if no PIS acno will kill them all

 

[Nemispelled]

Sorry for the late reply been busy lately.

So??? that his ability u can't take that away from him he has the ability to do that just becuase igneel might be physical stonger/better in CQC than acno doesn't mean he stronger. Is isn't all about physical combat in a fight.

So that wasn't becuase of plot? So that isn't a excuse acno but it is for the GMG dragons. But they couldn't kill fodders tho? Or oneshot any of a DS? Natsu getting help from Alta's flame is irrelevant.

Hades was winning but couldn't put them down plus like u to bring up injuy and exchausted they all wasn't 100% (except laxus). He perform a better lol ok? But destroy a island with a causal roar back then if it wasnt for POF fairy Sphere lol oook..

Lol better feats that ingeel ever produced the rest are speculation that U don't have proof of. Plus he was split into 2. dragon form and human form.

Again that guy was hit by plot hiro couldn't kill off makarov u except him to make acno kill any1 at that point?. Both me and u know if no PIS acno will kill them all

Np, I hate it when I'm busy too, so I understand.

It's true that soul extraction is Acnologia's ability, but the point is that it still served as a major advantage. Igneel had no way to avoid or counter that technique because he was born as a dragon. That's the definition of a disadvantage, in my opinion. It's just like a Dragon Slayer having elemental advantage in a fight.



For the GMG dragons, the potential was there. They proved that they could kill the dragon slayers, it's just that Ultear gave them a second chance. Acnologia was different because he was actually struggling to put Christina down.

But I place Acnologia and all the GMG dragons (except Atlas Flame) as low-tier anyways.



Again, I know FS is PoF to a certain extent. That's why I didn't expect Acnologia to kill everybody on Tenrou. But Christina?

Struggling to destroy that airship is a major setback on his performance and feats overall. His actions were beyond ridiculous and he looked like a fool countless times.



Splitting into 2 forms was entirely his fault. If he didn't chase Christina like a fodder, that wouldn't have happened.

Acnologia vs. Christina had no PiS involved, as far as I'm concerned. Everything was fair game and reasonable. It's just that Acnologia was dumb and had embarrassingly slow speed.

 

[Woodenstool]

Np, I hate it when I'm busy too, so I understand.

It's true that soul extraction is Acnologia's ability, but the point is that it still served as a major advantage. Igneel had no way to avoid or counter that technique because he was born as a dragon. That's the definition of a disadvantage, in my opinion. It's just like a Dragon Slayer having elemental advantage in a fight.



For the GMG dragons, the potential was there. They proved that they could kill the dragon slayers, it's just that Ultear gave them a second chance. Acnologia was different because he was actually struggling to put Christina down.

But I place Acnologia and all the GMG dragons (except Atlas Flame) as low-tier anyways.



Again, I know FS is PoF to a certain extent. That's why I didn't expect Acnologia to kill everybody on Tenrou. But Christina?

Struggling to destroy that airship is a major setback on his performance and feats overall. His actions were beyond ridiculous and he looked like a fool countless times.



Splitting into 2 forms was entirely his fault. If he didn't chase Christina like a fodder, that wouldn't have happened.

Acnologia vs. Christina had no PiS involved, as far as I'm concerned. Everything was fair game and reasonable. It's just that Acnologia was dumb and had embarrassingly slow speed.

Yeah it did, Hiro made Acnologia slower so the story could show the viewers the ravines of time.

When Irene teleported him, it seemed like forever. But he came back when most of Spriggans were defeated. Use some critical thinking and stop downplaying characters.

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I can't believe people are actually supporting Nemi's idea that Acnologia is some fodder dragon thag came out of the eclipse portal. He literally is ignoring the authors writing when Acnologia slaughtered THOUSANDS of dragons in human form.

"Yes, I understand he killed all the dragons but he's still on the same level as the one he's killed"

 

[Nemispelled]

Yeah it did, Hiro made Acnologia slower so the story could show the viewers the ravines of time.

When Irene teleported him, it seemed like forever. But he came back when most of Spriggans were defeated. Use some critical thinking and stop downplaying characters.

The viewers couldn't care less about The Ravines of Time. It added nothing to plot in the end, and it wasted a lot of pages that could have been put to better use.

He came back when most of the Spriggans were defeated because he flew with Christina tier speed.

 

[Woodenstool]

The viewers couldn't care less about The Ravines of Time. It added nothing to plot in the end, and it wasted a lot of pages that could have been put to better use.

He came back when most of the Spriggans were defeated because his flew with Christina tier speed.

Maybe you don't care but when something is hyped for multiple chapters, people want to see it. Acnologia coming at the exact time when the Spriggans were here was just too convenienient right? The author totally didn't do that for a reason.

 

[LaGOAT]

Np, I hate it when I'm busy too, so I understand.

It's true that soul extraction is Acnologia's ability, but the point is that it still served as a major advantage. Igneel had no way to avoid or counter that technique because he was born as a dragon. That's the definition of a disadvantage, in my opinion. It's just like a Dragon Slayer having elemental advantage in a fight.



For the GMG dragons, the potential was there. They proved that they could kill the dragon slayers, it's just that Ultear gave them a second chance. Acnologia was different because he was actually struggling to put Christina down.

But I place Acnologia and all the GMG dragons (except Atlas Flame) as low-tier anyways.



Again, I know FS is PoF to a certain extent. That's why I didn't expect Acnologia to kill everybody on Tenrou. But Christina?

Struggling to destroy that airship is a major setback on his performance and feats overall. His actions were beyond ridiculous and he looked like a fool countless times.



Splitting into 2 forms was entirely his fault. If he didn't chase Christina like a fodder, that wouldn't have happened.

Acnologia vs. Christina had no PiS involved, as far as I'm concerned. Everything was fair game and reasonable. It's just that Acnologia was dumb and had embarrassingly slow speed.

By ur logic u can say that every fight that happens there is gonna be advantage and disadvantage in 1v1 not will be equal in every category in strength. Example elf man might be physically stronger than dimaria but she has an Op ability.

No difference bro GMG dragons struggling against fodders as anco struggling vs Christina. Idk how Alta's flames is above the rest when he struggles to damage gmg base exchausted natsu. (Be4 getting nakamfied)

Ur making it sound Christina is a person or something lol but that's is pis/nerfed acno hiro isn't gonna let anco catch up and kill them especially when god tier erza is on that ship. I don't how that a huge set back when u previously feats and hype that proves that acno is the strongest in the verse. But let's use ur logic here even if he stuggling to catch Christiana what ur proof that ingeel can catch up to Christina when his best feats is vs a "low tier dragon" also ur making sound like 50% ingeel can beat low tier dragons. So

Ok except that he shouldn't eat the Devine of time when basically he was getting sucked into it? also there was a DS on the ship remember he wanted to kill all DS

 

[King of kings]

Fairy Heart Zeref should tier-0 because FH is an infinite source magic energy. Infinite magic+immortality would make him strong and he could face with omni-king, 3 reasons.
1.It has a magic what can manipulate time and space like restore time
2.Zeref was immortal , he cannot be killed and even if a planet , galaxy or the universe is destroyed
3.He can restore an entire univerise , galaxy or planet destroyed becuase of his inifite magic
Zeref was defeated by Natsu because of Hiro style and plot amor. I know it's funny but in realty FH Zeref can destroy an universe, don't listen to Mashima because he only care about friendship power and plot armor

 

[LaGOAT]

Fairy Heart Zeref should tier-0 because FH is an infinite source magic energy. Infinite magic+immortality would make him strong and he could face with omni-king, 3 reasons.
1.It has a magic what can manipulate time and space like restore time
2.Zeref was immortal , he cannot be killed and even if a planet , galaxy or the universe is destroyed
3.He can restore an entire univerise , galaxy or planet destroyed becuase of his inifite magic
Zeref was defeated by Natsu because of Hiro style and plot amor. I know it's funny but in realty FH Zeref can destroy an universe, don't listen to Mashima because he only care about friendship power and plot armor

im sorry but are u saying that he is a universal buster/omnipotent??

please tell me ur joking

 

[King of kings]

im sorry but are u saying that he is a universal buster/omnipotent??

please tell me ur joking

i'm not joking hahahahah, that's the power of FH , don't be a fool because Zeref would one-shot Natsu

 

[Nemispelled]

Maybe you don't care but when something is hyped for multiple chapters, people want to see it. Acnologia coming at the exact time when the Spriggans were here was just too convenienient right? The author totally didn't do that for a reason.

Based on many previous reviews, people did not want to see the Ravines of Time. There is a general consensus that Acnologia's "fake defeat" was unnecessary and that the timelapse idea turned out to be a major disappointment.

The only reason why Acnologia slaughtered many dragons was because of his ability to steal their souls. Most of them were probably low-tier dragons anyways, but clearly his overall feats do not support his hype.

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By ur logic u can say that every fight that happens there is gonna be advantage and disadvantage in 1v1 not will be equal in every category in strength. Example elf man might be physically stronger than dimaria but she has an Op ability.

No difference bro GMG dragons struggling against fodders as anco struggling vs Christina. Idk how Alta's flames is above the rest when he struggles to damage gmg base exchausted natsu. (Be4 getting nakamfied)

Ur making it sound Christina is a person or something lol but that's is pis/nerfed acno hiro isn't gonna let anco catch up and kill them especially when god tier erza is on that ship. I don't how that a huge set back when u previously feats and hype that proves that acno is the strongest in the verse. But let's use ur logic here even if he stuggling to catch Christiana what ur proof that ingeel can catch up to Christina when his best feats is vs a "low tier dragon" also ur making sound like 50% ingeel can beat low tier dragons. So

Ok except that he shouldn't eat the Devine of time when basically he was getting sucked into it? also there was a DS on the ship remember he wanted to kill all DS

Not every fight has an advantage or disadvantage. But clearly Igneel suffered some major disadvantages with his soul being stolen.

The problem is that Acnologia's magic spell is a direct counter to Igneel's dragon body. Since Igneel is a natural dragon by birth, it's impossible for him to avoid or prevent that attack. In other words, the plot forced Igneel to fight Acnologia while in his half-dead state.



As for the GMG dragons, I don't think they were struggling against the dragon slayers. It was the other way around.

None of the dragon slayers could even deal any significant damage to those dragons. If Atlas Flame + Natsu did not break the Eclipse Gate, those dragons would have eventually won.

And Atlas Flame never lost to Natsu. He decided to work with him after he learned that Natsu was raised by Igneel, King of the Fire Dragons.

They dragon slayers even practically admitted that they were powerless against those dragons.



Well, Christina is large part of Acnologia's feats.... I'm just stating what I saw in the manga. Several chapters confirmed that Acnologia has Christina tier speed and that he was struggling to destroy the people inside it.

From those pieces of evidence, we can conclude that Acnologia has extremely low intelligence, since he charged the airship like any fodder would.

Igneel was able to sever Acnologia's arm with 2 major disadvantages. That alone already surpasses Dragon Acnologia's feats against Christina.



That's my point. There was no reason for Acnologia to get sucked into the timelapse. He got himself into a ridiculous situation because he mindlessly charged at a faster airship.

Those feats count against him because it is entirely his fault.

 

[LaGOAT]

i'm not joking hahahahah, that's the power of FH , don't be a fool because Zeref would one-shot Natsu

ok? and so by ur logic if happy has that power he is also omnipotent. u know what omnipotent is? FH doesnt make u Omnipotent it just has a unlimited amount of magic. he isnt even a reality warper. he can be killed by BKDM natsu(ig form natsu) so he isnt omnipotent

 

[Woodenstool]

Based on many previous reviews, people did not want to see the Ravines of Time. There is a general consensus that Acnologia's "fake defeat" was unnecessary and that the timelapse idea turned out to be a major disappointment.

The only reason why Acnologia slaughtered many dragons was because of his ability to steal their souls. Most of them were probably low-tier dragons anyways, but clearly his overall feats do not support his hype.

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Not every fight has an advantage or disadvantage. But clearly Igneel suffered some major disadvantages with his soul being stolen.

The problem is that Acnologia's magic spell is a direct counter to Igneel's dragon body. Since Igneel is a natural dragon by birth, it's impossible for him to avoid or prevent that attack. In other words, the plot forced Igneel to fight Acnologia while in his half-dead state.



As for the GMG dragons, I don't think they were struggling against the dragon slayers. It was the other way around.

None of the dragon slayers could even deal any significant damage to those dragons. If Atlas Flame + Natsu did not break the Eclipse Gate, those dragons would have eventually won.

And Atlas Flame never lost to Natsu. He decided to work with him after he learned that Natsu was raised by Igneel, King of the Fire Dragons.

They dragon slayers even practically admitted that they were powerless against those dragons.



Well, Christina is large part of Acnologia's feats.... I'm just stating what I saw in the manga. Several chapters confirmed that Acnologia has Christina tier speed and that he was struggling to destroy the people inside it.

From those pieces of evidence, we can conclude that Acnologia has extremely low intelligence, since he charged the airship like any fodder would.

Igneel was able to sever Acnologia's arm with 2 major disadvantages. That alone already surpasses Dragon Acnologia's feats against Christina.



That's my point. There was no reason for Acnologia to get sucked into the timelapse. He got himself into a ridiculous situation because he mindlessly charged at a faster airship.

Those feats count against him because it is entirely his fault.

An appeal to popularity fallacy. Just because everyone agrees with a certain topic doesn't mean it's correct.

Jihad is acceptable in the Middle East so does it make it right to have it in the US? No, it's a logical fallacy.

Try again with a real argument

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ok? and so by ur logic if happy has that power he is also omnipotent. u know what omnipotent is? FH doesnt make u Omnipotent it just has a unlimited amount of magic. he isnt even a reality warper. he can be killed by BKDM natsu(ig form natsu) so he isnt omnipotent

You need a certain level of strength to even touch Zeref. Plot armor, main character, love, mixed in with a bad writer like Hiro Mashima.

 

[King of kings]

Zeref is immortal dude , an immortal cannot die. FH+immortality would make to powerful. Imagine if Zeno was there , he could erease the universe but Zeref would come back to life and restore time and then revive the universe destroyed no matter how many times. Don't you know what is the power of time magic? Zeref has same power as Whis but different because of infinity magic enegry, endless power.

 

[LaGOAT]

Based on many previous reviews, people did not want to see the Ravines of Time. There is a general consensus that Acnologia's "fake defeat" was unnecessary and that the timelapse idea turned out to be a major disappointment.

The only reason why Acnologia slaughtered many dragons was because of his ability to steal their souls. Most of them were probably low-tier dragons anyways, but clearly his overall feats do not support his hype.

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Not every fight has an advantage or disadvantage. But clearly Igneel suffered some major disadvantages with his soul being stolen.

The problem is that Acnologia's magic spell is a direct counter to Igneel's dragon body. Since Igneel is a natural dragon by birth, it's impossible for him to avoid or prevent that attack. In other words, the plot forced Igneel to fight Acnologia while in his half-dead state.



As for the GMG dragons, I don't think they were struggling against the dragon slayers. It was the other way around.

None of the dragon slayers could even deal any significant damage to those dragons. If Atlas Flame + Natsu did not break the Eclipse Gate, those dragons would have eventually won.

And Atlas Flame never lost to Natsu. He decided to work with him after he learned that Natsu was raised by Igneel, King of the Fire Dragons.

They dragon slayers even practically admitted that they were powerless against those dragons.



Well, Christina is large part of Acnologia's feats.... I'm just stating what I saw in the manga. Several chapters confirmed that Acnologia has Christina tier speed and that he was struggling to destroy the people inside it.

From those pieces of evidence, we can conclude that Acnologia has extremely low intelligence, since he charged the airship like any fodder would.

Igneel was able to sever Acnologia's arm with 2 major disadvantages. That alone already surpasses Dragon Acnologia's feats against Christina.



That's my point. There was no reason for Acnologia to get sucked into the timelapse. He got himself into a ridiculous situation because he mindlessly charged at a faster airship.

Those feats count against him because it is entirely his fault.

Dragons or humans he has the ability to take souls away it wasn't stated that it only work on dragons. 2. It his power it just proves that he is stronger than ingeel base on that ability 3. The only disadvantage he had was he wasn't 100% that's it.

Yes they were they couldn't put quick work on the dragon slayers who ain't 100% bro the argument isn't that if the ds can beat the GMG dragons we know that GMG dragons>ds it about that they couldn't put quick work on them.

Bro I'm talking about be4 natsu nakamfied Alta's flames. He couldn't put damage on a base exchausted natsu.

Just like how the gmg dragons will eventually had beat the ds same logic that apply with acno. He would have caught to Christina and kil them. (In fact he did in the manga except the killing part)

Idk how it's a large part if anything it's speak about his speed. In which it doesn't mean that much he does has other categories. And ingeel isn't speedster either But u put them above the parent dragons tho right?

Anco slays dragons for centuries>ripping acno arm. Ingeel doesn't have the capable feat.

There was a ds on the ship and child of the creator of DS why do U think he chase after a ship?

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An appeal to popularity fallacy. Just because everyone agrees with a certain topic doesn't mean it's correct.

Jihad is acceptable in the Middle East so does it make it right to have it in the US? No, it's a logical fallacy.

Try again with a real argument

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You need a certain level of strength to even touch Zeref. Plot armor, main character, love, mixed in with a bad writer like Hiro Mashima.

That not the point bro zeref with FH isn't omnipotent

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Zeref is immortal dude , an immortal cannot die. FH+immortality would make to powerful. Imagine if Zeno was there , he could erease the universe but Zeref would come back to life and restore time and then revive the universe destroyed no matter how many times. Don't you know what is the power of time magic? Zeref has same power as Whis but different because of infinity magic enegry, endless power.

Except xeno>>>>zeref. Zeno=\= zeref. We have seen immortal die in mangas. Example zamasu bro. Zeref confirmed that BKDM natsu would have kill him. Again it was stated that FH GIVES Unmlimited magic not infinite power. Being able to rewind time doesn't mean ur omnipotent it just a hax magic. Great example is Whis he isn't omnipotent so ur logic is debunked. It was even confirmed that august known more magic than zeref

 

[King of kings]

Dragons or humans he has the ability to take souls away it wasn't stated that it only work on dragons. 2. It his power it just proves that he is stronger than ingeel base on that ability 3. The only disadvantage he had was he wasn't 100% that's it.

Yes they were they couldn't put quick work on the dragon slayers who ain't 100% bro the argument isn't that if the ds can beat the GMG dragons we know that GMG dragons>ds it about that they couldn't put quick work on them.

Bro I'm talking about be4 natsu nakamfied Alta's flames. He couldn't put damage on a base exchausted natsu.

Just like how the gmg dragons will eventually had beat the ds same logic that apply with acno. He would have caught to Christina and kil them. (In fact he did in the manga except the killing part)

Idk how it's a large part if anything it's speak about his speed. In which it doesn't mean that much he does has other categories. And ingeel isn't speedster either But u put them above the parent dragons tho right?

Anco slays dragons for centuries>ripping acno arm. Ingeel doesn't have the capable feat.

There was a ds on the ship and child of the creator of DS why do U think he chase after a ship?

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That not the point bro zeref with FH isn't omnipotent

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Except xeno>>>>zeref. Zeno=\= zeref. We have seen immortal die in mangas. Example zamasu bro. Zeref confirmed that BKDM natsu would have kill him. Again it was stated that FH GIVES Unmlimited magic not infinite power. Being able to rewind time doesn't mean ur omnipotent it just a hax magic. Great example is Whis he isn't omnipotent so ur logic is debunked. It was even confirmed that august known more magic than zeref

You talk like if you don't know FH , FH is superior to the three great fairy magics. This could wiped out an entire contient for infinity and this magic is stronger than Fairy Law and Fairy Glitter. When Zeref had FH was stronger , he would but it will come back to life ..oh one more thing Zamasu is immortal but he doesn't have a power like Zeref. Zertef could solo an entire anime universe , his energy is endless like he is not going to be tired or losing magic. He is lost to Natsu because of plot armor