Discussion Earth Land Mages Rate - THE ULTIMATE POWER RANKING [BIG FINALE + STATISTICS]

[BluePegasus]

STATISTICS

Spoiler: Alakitasia ranking

1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Spoiler: Ishgar ranking

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
17). TO Sherria Blendy - 8,850
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
30). Kyoka - 6,550
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
33). Erik “Cobra” - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
35). Arlock - 5,850
36). Lyon Vastia - 5,067
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4,483
Average: 7,82337

The winning continent is..

Spoiler

Alakitasia

Spoiler: Guild ranking

Spriggan Twelve
1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Fairy Tail
2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4.483
Average: 8,718091

Sabertooth
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
Average: 7,383

Crime Sorciere
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
33). Erik “Cobra" - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
Average: 7,329

Lamia Scale
17). Sherria Blendy - 8,850
36) Lyon Vastia - 5,067
Average: 6,9585

Mermaid Heel
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
Average: 7,333

Tartaros
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,155667

Grimoire Heart
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
Average: 7,917

Avatar
35). Arlock - 5,850
Average: 5,850

(Balam Alliance
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,346)

Most 13's
1). Natsu x 11
2). Irene x 10
3). Gildarts x 4
4). Larcade x 2
5). Laxus x 1, DiMaria x 1, Lucy x 1

 

[Gryffindor]

Well that was one heck of a ride, wasn't it? Here is the full list with links to the elimination posts in case anyone ever feels like checking them out again.

[post=4599653] 1) Irene Belserion-12.200[/post]
[post=4599652] 2) Natsu Dragneel-11.750[/post]
[post=4599651] 3) Gildarts Clive-11.583[/post]
[post=4598583] 4) Laxus Dreyar-11.167[/post]
[post=4597382] 5) Jellal Fernandes-11.100[/post]
[post=4597225] 6) Larcade Dragneel-10.683[/post]
[post=4596413] 7) DiMaria Yesta-10.667[/post]
[post=4595925] 8) Erza Scarlet-10.083[/post]
[post=4595453] 9) God Serena-10.017[/post]
[post=4595191] 10) Gray Fullbuster-9.950[/post]
[post=4594738] 11) Brandish µ-9.533[/post]
[post=4593900] 12) Bradman-9.300[/post]
[post=4593439] 13) Gajeel Redfox-9.267[/post]
[post=4593248] 14) Sting Eucliffe-9.233[/post]
[post=4592900] 15) Invel Yura-9.117[/post]
[post=4592813] 16) Wall Eehto-9.017[/post]
[post=4592320] 17) Sherria Blendy-8.850[/post]
[post=4591927] 18) Ajeel Ramal-8.383[/post]
[post=4591726] 19) Jacob Lessio-8.183[/post]
[post=4591475] 20) Mard Geer-8.167[/post]
[post=4591231] 21) Mirajane Strauss-7.983[/post]
[post=4591204] 22) Precht Gaebolg-7.917[/post]
[post=4591058] 23) Lucy Heartfilia-7.733[/post]
[post=4590919] 24) Neinhart-7.450[/post]
[post=4590697] 25) Future Rogue Cheney-7.383[/post]
[post=4590248] 26) Kagura Mikazuchi-7.333[/post]
[post=4590163] 27) Wendy Marvell-7.033[/post]
[post=4589984] 28) Silver Fullbuster-6.750[/post]
[post=4589777] 29) Minerva Orland-6.683[/post]
[post=4589556] 30) Kyoka-6.550[/post]
[post=4589279] 31) Ultear Milkovich-6.283[/post]
[post=4589053] 32) Rogue Cheney-6.233[/post]
[post=4589013] 33) Erik "Cobra"-5.983[/post]
[post=4588937] 34) Macbeth "Midnight"-5.950[/post]
[post=4588113] 35) Arlock-5.850[/post]
[post=4587925] 36) Lyon Vastia-5.067[/post]
[post=4587728] 37) Cana Alberona-4.867[/post]
[post=4587607] 38) Elfman Strauss-4.483[/post]​

 

[Ebony Maw]

Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it.

Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining.

Big thanks to my fellow hosts @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor, you guys really upped your game in this rating and it wouldn't have been possible without you. The same goes to @Brandish @DiMaria Yesta @Crescent_jinxgrace @Takuan @~Charging Lightning~ and @Belserion, you all did fantastic posts!

And in general I want to thank the mods for making this run so smoothly, I know for a fact that this thread easily could have turned to chaos without their intervention. In particular I want to thank @Brandish for sticky-ing the thread, this thread wouldn't have been anywhere near as active if it wasn't for you.

I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....

This poster was made by @Valhalla777, big thanks to him!

THE EARTH LAND MAGES RATE IS OFFICIALLY OVER!​

 

[Demon Hunter]

technically speaking, all three of them (Natsu, Gray, Erza) are pure BS in this arc.

 

[Woodenstool]

Lets not forget Erza who was already heavily fatigued from the war, stopped both Natsu and Grey while BLOODLUSTED. If can intercept their attacks without them noticing you know shes fucking faster than them. Don't even try to downplay this feat because minutes later she blew up a meteor and cut through a dragon.

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technically speaking, all three of them (Natsu, Gray, Erza) are pure BS in this arc.

Agreed. Hiro should've made Zeref vs Acnologia. Would've made more sense than 7 fodders vs Acnologia. Thats like Ten Ten taking out Madara with a kunai. Lol

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

OMFG! Lucy canceled out Jacob's stealth magic! And Happy stopped Transport. So with that logic, Happy and Lucy and Spriggan level. Gildarts wasn't even remotely damage during their fight with August lol.

So did Hiro Mashima tell you that Natsu was in "partial END" mode or was that a fan fic you conjured up? How do you know it wasn't his END mode?

Jacob has cis, he could've transported everyone again, he transported a spriggan level character without even knowing about it. That's how overpowered his magic is and you're implying Lucy could beat him. Honey, Jacob was mopping the floor with Natsu and Lucy and Lucy nearly died from a tomahawk thrown at her.

Invel is way stronger than Natsu and Gray is stronger than Invel since he learned Divine ice something Natsu can't counter because he got frozen by Invel regular ice. And Gildarts is no novice, he is the Conor McGregor of this series, he can literally dismantle his opponents limb by limb with his overpowered magics. Erza has physical feats superior to Gray and Natsu, she is faster than both them, she has armors made to fight Natsu. Call it BS all you like, feats over statements and your fan fics. Erza is crazy bitch and to think Natsu is stronger than her is just wanking Natsu off.

No, it was already mentioned in the chapter spoilers that END power was leaking out of natsu. And loke did cancel out Jacob's stealth and it is still one of the keys of lucy just like gemini cancel out his transport by copying maron (same guy who pretty much owned erza before), that will count as lucy's feats as they are her keys. And hologrium saved both lucy and natsu from jacob earlier. Whether you like it or not lucy was a perfect counter to jacob and stand a good chance of beating him than any ishgar mage. Lucy has much better non BS feats than erza this arc who got overpowered by foot soldiers.

Gildarts was in half dead shape at the end of fight with august. August stabbed him with sword or staff and was owning him whole fight. According to your logic gildarts is stronger than acnologia who literally left him half dead.

 

[Woodenstool]

No, it was already mentioned in the chapter spoilers that END power was leaking out of natsu. And loke did cancel out Jacob's stealth and it is still one of the keys of lucy just like gemini cancel out his transport by copying maron (same guy who pretty much owned erza before), that will count as lucy's feats as they are her keys. And hologrium saved both lucy and natsu from jacob earlier. Whether you like it or not lucy was a perfect counter to jacob and stand a good chance of beating him than any ishgar mage. Lucy has much better non BS feats than erza this arc who got overpowered by foot soldiers.

Gildarts was in half dead shape at the end of fight with august. August stabbed him with sword or staff and was owning him whole fight. According to your logic gildarts is stronger than acnologia who literally left him half dead.

Mirajane scales higher than Lucy and she got destroyed by Jacob with his eyes closed. Gildarts has no major wounds on him.

 

[Star Frost]

Mirajane scales higher than Lucy and she got destroyed by Jacob with his eyes closed. Gildarts has no major wounds on him.

Erza scales higher than Elfman and Lisanna and she needed Bisca's aid in defeating Ajeel while those two didn't. Due to the advantages, its best to have somebody like Lucy with you in winning is what I think he's saying.

 

[Woodenstool]

Erza scales higher than Elfman and Lisanna and she needed Bisca's aid in defeating Ajeel while those two didn't. Due to the advantages, its best to have somebody like Lucy with you in winning is what I think he's saying.

Ajeel was nerfed and already damaged by their past fight. Critical thinking...

 

[Biri Biri]

Damn. Really?

Gray should not have went out before Erza does. Always thought he surpassed her towards the end of Tartaros, during his back-to-back fights with Silver and Mard. Especially in terms of strength and physical versatility. His performance in the Alvarez war was comfortably more impressive compared to her. It actually followed a healthy trajectory.

Doctor Fullbuster had to babysit Lyon and give him psychiatric consultation while battling Ur's Historia, and still emerge victorious. He was outclassed by Invel initially, but turned the tides once he started employing his devil slayer magic, which forced Invel to bust out Ice Lock on Juvia and Gray while they were distracted by Brandish.

He died. Came back to life with the strength to brutalize Invel for good, without devil slayer magic this time, then stalemated Natsu who decimated Dimaria in her Age Seal. He dieded a second time due to all the bloodloss. Came back from sleep and made his way to the guild faster than anyone else did. Then had Zeref shtting bricks moments later, until Mashima remembered the honour of slapping the taste out of Big Brother Dragneel's mouth has to go to Little Brother Dragneel.

Steady development in power? Check.

Erza went from getting dominated by Ajeel, lucked out with a sucker punch from Bisca's interception. And still didn't properly finish off Ajeel who came back to let himself get beaten by Elfman and Lisanna. Erza then technically lost to the Historia of her past adversaries, and had Jellal not save her, she wouldn't have the chance to survive and meet mommy.

The mommy whom she battle with assistance from the most gifted enchantment mage, however still couldn't pull off a win yet again, as mommy committed suicide after being informed of how abysmal her daughter's performance in the war has been.

Lel. Yall funneh.

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@Emperor Spriggan @Crescent_jinxgrace I almost forgotten. Good effort. I don't think it is very easy to be writing on Lucy and Gray since they have been in the story pretty much since right from the beginning of FT. And we are talking about more than 500 chapters worth of material. So to anyone who will be writing on Natsu and Erza, thank you too.

I would include Gray's fight with Doriate in the Sun Village as one of his best too. That was what cemented his branding as a genius bruiser, with a good mix of brains and brawns. He was the only member affected by Doriate's magic who was not rendered completely helpless.

The fight showed us the inner monologue in Gray's mind. His effective deducing, along with innovative thinking by playing off the terrain and using the environment to gain an upperhand. All of which surface again during his fight with Silver.

He is the only character in FT who actually utilized tactical wit and ingenuity on a fairly consistent basis. As a whole, Gray's presentation was excellent from Sun Village to the end of Tartaros. I felt it was his magnum opus. And I agree the whole fiasco with Ultear would come next.

Most disappointing for me though, has to be when Gray was relegated to fodder during the fighting festival arc, losing to Bixlow. And the whole entire GMG when his coordination seemed really weak and poor.

 

[Woodenstool]

Damn. Really?

Gray should not have went out before Erza does. Always thought he surpassed her towards the end of Tartaros, during his back-to-back fights with Silver and Mard. Especially in terms of strength and physical versatility. His performance in the Alvarez war was comfortably more impressive compared to her. It actually followed a healthy trajectory.

Doctor Fullbuster had to babysit Lyon and give him psychiatric consultation while battling Ur's Historia, and still emerge victorious. He was outclassed by Invel initially, but turned the tides once he started employing his devil slayer magic, which forced Invel to bust out Ice Lock on Juvia and Gray while they were distracted by Brandish.

He died. Came back to life with the strength to brutalize Invel for good, without devil slayer magic this time, then stalemated Natsu who decimated Dimaria in her Age Seal. He dieded a second time due to all the bloodloss. Came back from sleep and made his way to the guild faster than anyone else did. Then had Zeref shtting bricks moments later, until Mashima remembered the honour of slapping the taste out of Big Brother Dragneel's mouth has to go to Little Brother Dragneel.

Steady development in power? Check.

Erza went from getting dominated by Ajeel, lucked out with a sucker punch from Bisca's interception. And still didn't properly finish off Ajeel who came back to let himself get beaten by Elfman and Lisanna. Erza then technically lost to the Historia of her past adversaries, and had Jellal not save her, she wouldn't have the chance to survive and meet mommy.

The mommy whom she battle with assistance from the most gifted enchantment mage, however still couldn't pull off a win yet again, as mommy committed suicide after being informed of how abysmal her daughter's performance in the war has been.

Lel. Yall funneh.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Aug 27, 2017 ---

@Emperor Spriggan @Crescent_jinxgrace I almost forgotten. Good effort. I don't think it is very easy to be writing on Lucy and Gray since they have been in the story pretty much since right from the beginning of FT. And we are talking about more than 500 chapters worth of material. So to anyone who will be writing on Natsu and Erza, thank you too.

I would include Gray's fight with Doriate in the Sun Village as one of his best too. That was what cemented his branding as a genius bruiser, with a good mix of brains and brawns. He was the only member affected by Doriate's magic who was not rendered completely helpless.

The fight showed us the inner monologue in Gray's mind. His effective deducing, along with innovative thinking by playing off the terrain and using the environment to gain an upperhand. All of which surface again during his fight with Silver.

He is the only character in FT who actually utilized tactical wit and ingenuity on a fairly consistent basis. As a whole, Gray's presentation was excellent from Sun Village to the end of Tartaros. I felt it was his magnum opus. And I agree the whole fiasco with Ultear would come next.

Most disappointing for me though, has to be when Gray was relegated to fodder during the fighting festival arc, losing to Bixlow. And the whole entire GMG when his coordination seemed really weak and poor.

Um yeah dude, that was the last arc before the timeskip. Feats place Erza above Natsu and Grey.

 

[**Silver**]

Um yeah dude, that was the last arc before the timeskip. Feats place Erza above Natsu and Grey.

Ahem Natsu defeated the two most powerful characters entire fairytail world....

 

[Ebony Maw]

"Ain't no such thing as a Dragon God."







"Or Dragon Kings."








"'Cause anything like a Dragon is toast when I get through with them!"

NOT YOU! You aren't him!






God Bye Bye!



#9

God Serena
Score: 10.017

Highest score: 11.5 x 2(@Star Frost, @galladex)
Lowest score: 7 x 1(@Cosmicstar)
My score: 11/13

The poster boy of wasted potential, this guy was pure hype, and I mean that in a good and bad way. Starting off with the good, EIGHT DRAGON SLAYER MAGICS!!! EIGHT!!! And the ones we saw were all elements we've seen used by mages, meaning that he's a complete counter to some of the top tiers due to his massive elemental resistances and his ability to eat said elements. On top of this, the dude can casually fodderize, by hype, four of the strongest mages on the continent. Oh, and that's without his Dragon Slayer Magic. With it, he almost killed all of them with three spells. I should probably mention that prior to his defection God Serena was the number 1 Wizard Saint, meaning that he was officially the strongest mage on the continent. However with all of this being said...

This arc has basically rendered hype pointless as the power scales have not only changed radically, but they are inconsistent and change at the whim of the plot. Take Spriggan hype for example: at the start of the arc Ajeel was supposedly so strong that Makarov thought the entire of team Natsu couldn't take him down quickly enough to make their escape. We now know that Ajeel has gone down to the likes of Elfman and Lisanna and that Gray and Natsu are capable of outright stomping Spriggans.

Sadly for God Serena, all of his showings are reliant on Alvarez hype. He casually stomped the top Wizard Saints but they have no feats of their own, and because they didn't fight anyone else we have no idea of how powerful they actually are. We can't even use his fight against Gildarts as a Historia as evidence, as it was off-paneled for the most part until Gildarts Empyrean'd him. Along with this, we can't use his feats against Team Natsu during his time as a Historia as none of them really appeared to actually be getting damaged and it seemed to mostly be a gag scene. Even worse, we still don't know the elements of four of his Dragon Slayer Magics, let alone the strength of them!

In regards to power, God Serena is Mashima's worst victim in terms of treatment: he was hyped up for 200+ chapters along with the other Gods of Ishgar, given one fight against said featless characters and then killed off to create false hype.

On the plus side, God Serena was certainly one of the funnier and more unique characters among the Spriggans, and for me, among the whole cast of Fairy Tail. I actually really like this too, had you asked me whether I thought such a strong character having a personality like God Serena's would work, I would have said no. Thankfully, Mashima proved me wrong.

Spoiler: If you want to read a crazy theory, have a look at this

So I was thinking about it the other day and had a thought: Hybrid Theory... 8 Dragon Slayer Lacrima's are cool but it left a little to be desired IMO.

What about if "Hybrid Theory" was actually his title because he could access multiple dual modes at will? I've always enjoyed dual modes, and the idea of someone swapping dual modes at will with so many possible combinations? That would have been epic. Not only that, but it would have allowed Hiro to show us his other elements in an easier way. Besides, Spriggans are supposed to be OP.

Just a thought.

BEST SPELLS

Whatever the hell this was

I won't try and make it seem like I picked this for some obscure reason: this just looks badass. If this is what it looks like when cast by a Historia, imagine the size and strength of it when cast by the real Goddy...

Sea King Dragon's Encircling Deluge

I've been wanting to see a Water Dragon Slayer for ages, and damn, this just made me sad that one of the seven main Dragon Slayers isn't a Water Dragon Slayer. I've always thought that water is one of the most underrated elements, it may not have the flashiness of fire or lightning, it may not appear as powerful as earth or as graceful as air, but water can be just as deadly as all of them. The sheer pressure and force large bodies of water can output is incredible. Not to mention it's hard to escape due to how it flows into any empty space.

Want a demonstration about how deadly water can be? Look up Delta P on youtube. Do it.

WORST SPELL

Purgatory Dragon's Blazing Hell

I don't dislike this but another variation of Fire Dragon Slayer Magic? Meh, I prefer his other Dragon Slayer Spells. That said, I'll take that the hell back if the anime follows my head canon and has the flames coloured blue.

BEST FIGHT

God Serena vs Hyberion, Wolfheim, Warrod and Jura

VS

Couldn't really put anything above this.

To be fair, I do actually like this fight for the most part. Seeing him cycle through his Dragon Slaying Magic was just awesome, and his response to August when he tells him to hold back? God damn perfect. The Gods of Ishgar were interesting opponents too, in particular Hyberion and his Vampire Magic, too bad we didn't see more of God Serena and the Gods of Ishgar, I wouldn't even have minded if it was against different opponents.

I'll never understand why Mashima chose to off-panel this but have a pointless Gray vs E.N.D fight.

WORST FIGHT

Historia God Serena vs Gildarts

This fight disappointed me... I just don't understand what the point of bringing God Serena (and Bradman/Wahl) back was. If you're going to have them fight, show it, don't give us the odd panel here and there and then cut to a one-shot. We could have got another full Spriggan fight if this didn't happen, for example we could have seen more of Mira vs Jacob or perhaps instead of seeing Gildarts fight HistSerena, we could have seen Gildarts vs Ajeel.

BEST MOMENTS

His dancing and return

Yes... just yes.

Never thought I'd be so happy to see an enemy return. The guy just oozes personality.

Unveiling his Dragon Slayer Magic

Holy mother of hype... I can't really explain it, but the sheer power Serena showed is something I felt the other Spriggans lacked. His sclera turning black was the icing on the cake, though it did leave a bit of a plot hole when Enhanced Neinhart was revealed as having the same eyes. Possible Serena/Irene interaction? Sadly, I don't think we'll ever know.

WORST MOMENT

The infamous Acno one-shot

Fuck this moment. Fuck it hard.

So God Serena just finishes curbing four people who are hyped as the strongest among the Ishgarian mages and just as he's about to leave, what happens? A serious Acnologia decides to show up.

God Serena may actually be the unluckiest character in Fairy Tail, he's a Dragon Slayer that doesn't have plot armour and isn't related to anyone in the guild and god damn Acnologia turns up specifically for him.

To make things worse, Hiro then craps on God Serena's legacy by making Acnologia inconsistent AF and suddenly not serious around Dragon Slayers. The actual fuck? What happened to "Seven remain"?

And worse still, he brings God Serena back as a Historia, still doesn't show his remaining Dragon Slayer Magic and has him promptly one-shot by Gildarts "Plot Convenience" Clive. It's like Hiro decided to spite him.

BEST RELATIONSHIP

Now, we didn't get to see much from Goddy in regards to how he interacts with other characters, but I would have killed to see a....

God Serena and Hyberion dynamic

From what we saw, we can gather that Hyberion (as well as the other Gods of Ishgar) felt animosity towards the former top Wizard Saint, and appropriately felt betrayed. In return, God Serena doesn't really seem to hold them in high regard, outright calling them pathetic after the first part of their fight and in particular making a point to say he finds the expression on Hyberion's face funny at the start of the fight. Now this is obviously just God Serena just trying to annoy him, but even these short interactions could hint at something much deeper. Were they ever on good terms? How long have they known each other? There's just a lot that could have been uncovered if we had seen them interact more, or even if we had just seen a mini-flashback about God Serena's rise to prominence when Hyberion told Levy about his defection.

Overview
Magic: Purgatory Dragon Slayer Magic, Cavern Dragon Slayer Magic, Sea King Dragon Slayer Magic, Gale Dragon Slayer Magic, 4 Unknown Dragon Slayer Magics
Affiliation: Spriggan 12​

 

[Arjuna]

@MLG Bradman one of the strong characters no doubt.

Even his heavily nerfed Historia version was able to injure Gildarts.This borns out his strength.

 

[CaptainTorch]

I expected him to be out pretty soon. The only problem I have is that Erza is still in the competition..

 

[BluePegasus]

I expected him to be out pretty soon. The only problem I have is that Erza is still in the competition..

That's one of the many problems in this top 10.

 

[Vici]

@Vici Next one has to be GS or our Hopes have been crushed,fingers crossed on that.

Luckily the most Overatted DS is out right now... Never knew what was so good about that dude anyway.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Luckily the most Overatted DS is out right now... Never knew what was so good about that dude anyway.

speaking with common sense, he no diffs Natsu because he is immune to his fire and has two elements of advantage against him.

I'm scratching my head for the fact that Natsu is ahead of him.

 

[Vici]

speaking with common sense, he no diffs Natsu because he is immune to his fire and has two elements of advantage against him.

the fact that Natsu is ahead of him is only BS to begin with.

Speaking with common sense what would stop Natsu from absorbing his powers into new modes

 

[Demon Hunter]

Speaking with common sense what would stop Natsu from absorbing his powers into new modes

common sense.

certainly not Hiro.

 

[Cosmicstar]

OMFG! Lucy canceled out Jacob's stealth magic! And Happy stopped Transport. So with that logic, Happy and Lucy and Spriggan level.

Jacob has cis, he could've transported everyone again, he transported a spriggan level character without even knowing about it. That's how overpowered his magic is and you're implying Lucy could beat him. Honey, Jacob was mopping the floor with Natsu and Lucy and Lucy nearly died from a tomahawk thrown at her.

Invel is way stronger than Natsu and Gray is stronger than Invel since he learned Divine ice something Natsu can't counter because he got frozen by Invel regular ice. Erza has physical feats superior to Gray and Natsu, she is faster than both them, she has armors made to fight Natsu. Call it BS all you like, feats over statements and your fan fics. Erza is crazy bitch and to think Natsu is stronger than her is just wanking Natsu off.

Stop acting as though there was only CIS or PIS with Jacob during the Lucy/Natsu vs Jacob fight. Lucy and Natsu weren't even remotely going all out. There was so much PIS and CIS when it came to Lucy and Natsu during that fight it wasn't even funny.

1. Horologium during the Edolas Arc was able to save Lucy from Anima which was a Large City Scale attack. Versus Jacob only Guild level attack. This was like 3 powerups ago.

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So basically why couldn't lucy just go into a Horologium Stardress and become immune to Jacobs Transport power. Stardress simply uses the power of the Celestial Spirits(No not just Zodiacs but Celestial Spirits).

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2. Natsu could have simply used his body heat to destroy Jacob. The same Body heat that:

Melted the GMG Arena:

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Melted his Dagger:

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Melted Ice Make:Lost

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Considering Jacob was Falling to this:

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Why didn't Natsu go all out in the beginning? Because he didn't want to destroy the Guild. LOL

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3. Why didn't Lucy:

Use Cancer form to Slice him like she did Brandish:

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Use Taurus Form to Physically overpower Jacob. She had it on in the beginning when she kicked him several feet away.

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Use Scorpio Form to battle him Mid air.

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Why didn't she use Aquarius form.

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What about Sagittarius form which has high attack power.

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Hell even Aries would have been more effective in the battle.

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Not saying Lucy would low or mid diff Jacob but she had to crap ton of opportunities she didn't use that would have been 10x more effective against Jacob than Leo Stardress. Hell she even sent Leo back mid battle because he was being a pervert. That just goes to show how much of a sham the battle was.

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Neither side was trying their best. There is all evidence to support this. Lucy vs Brandish versus Lucy vs Jacob will show you the Quality of how much Lucy was holding back. Any other battle of Natsu will show just how much Natsu held back against Jacob.


Also Natsu Already Countered Invel Ice and Grays Ice without E.N.D Power. When seen it when he easily disposed of Grays "Ace" Ice Shell:Lost which was his most powerful spell and we seen it when he broke out of Invel Ice along with Lucy and Juvia.

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Mirajane scales higher than Lucy and she got destroyed by Jacob with his eyes closed. Gildarts has no major wounds on him.

In What universe does Mirajane scale Higher than Lucy?

CSK already destroyed Plutogrim with ease. Plutogrim is Mirajane strongest Takeover:

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Even in Magical power Lucy accomplished the same thing as Mirajane. Lucy however did it a year earlier.

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Also the only reason Mirajane beat Jacob was because he wasn't even remotely going all out.

1. He didn't use Transport
2. He closed his eyes the entire fight.

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Had he did that in his battle Against Lucy and Natsu he would have been thrashed with ease.

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The battles in this Arc is riddled with PIS and CIS.

Gray vs Invel: Why didn't Gray simply eat Invels Ice? As a DeS he has that ability.

Erza vs Nienheart: Why didn't she use Nakagami to simply slice through his Historia? Would have been able to end the battle in like 2 seconds.

Erza vs Ajeel: Why didn't Erza use her Lighting, Flame, Nakagami armors in the beginning? Each have high attack power and counter sand. Would have gave Erza an Easier time in battle.

Wendy/Ultear/Chelia vs Dimaria: Why didn't Wendy simply enchant Chelia and Ultear.

 

[Kiki]

My reaction when there is any mention of Yuri Dreyar in Serena-related

People thinking Serena = Yuri has always been beyond me

My prediction next is Larcade/Erza. Especially Larcade. He must go a.s.a.p

 

[Brandish μ]

I was certainly a proponent of God Serena = Yuri. God Serena was tied with Brandish upon introduction for me. He's got the best lines of all the S12.

I'd definitely pick Gray over God Serena in power, but Serena being above the other S12 members is fine imho. It's not a bad spot for him.