Discussion Earth Land Mages Rate - THE ULTIMATE POWER RANKING [BIG FINALE + STATISTICS]

Are you satisfied with the final three?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 45.7%
  • No

    Votes: 11 23.9%
  • No, but I live for the mess

    Votes: 14 30.4%

  • Total voters
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STATISTICS

1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
17). TO Sherria Blendy - 8,850
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
30). Kyoka - 6,550
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
33). Erik “Cobra” - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
35). Arlock - 5,850
36). Lyon Vastia - 5,067
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4,483
Average: 7,82337

The winning continent is..
Alakitasia

Spriggan Twelve
1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Fairy Tail

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4.483
Average: 8,718091

Sabertooth

14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
Average: 7,383

Crime Sorciere

5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
33). Erik “Cobra" - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
Average: 7,329

Lamia Scale

17). Sherria Blendy - 8,850
36) Lyon Vastia - 5,067
Average: 6,9585

Mermaid Heel

26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
Average: 7,333

Tartaros

20). Mard Geer - 8,167
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,155667

Grimoire Heart

22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
Average: 7,917

Avatar

35). Arlock - 5,850
Average: 5,850

(Balam Alliance
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,346)

Most 13's
1). Natsu x 11
2). Irene x 10
3). Gildarts x 4
4). Larcade x 2
5). Laxus x 1, DiMaria x 1, Lucy x 1

 

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Well that was one heck of a ride, wasn't it? Here is the full list with links to the elimination posts in case anyone ever feels like checking them out again:).

[post=4599653] 1) Irene Belserion-12.200[/post]
[post=4599652] 2) Natsu Dragneel-11.750[/post]
[post=4599651] 3) Gildarts Clive-11.583[/post]
[post=4598583] 4) Laxus Dreyar-11.167[/post]
[post=4597382] 5) Jellal Fernandes-11.100[/post]
[post=4597225] 6) Larcade Dragneel-10.683[/post]
[post=4596413] 7) DiMaria Yesta-10.667[/post]
[post=4595925] 8) Erza Scarlet-10.083[/post]
[post=4595453] 9) God Serena-10.017[/post]
[post=4595191] 10) Gray Fullbuster-9.950[/post]
[post=4594738] 11) Brandish µ-9.533[/post]
[post=4593900] 12) Bradman-9.300[/post]
[post=4593439] 13) Gajeel Redfox-9.267[/post]
[post=4593248] 14) Sting Eucliffe-9.233[/post]
[post=4592900] 15) Invel Yura-9.117[/post]
[post=4592813] 16) Wall Eehto-9.017[/post]
[post=4592320] 17) Sherria Blendy-8.850[/post]
[post=4591927] 18) Ajeel Ramal-8.383[/post]
[post=4591726] 19) Jacob Lessio-8.183[/post]
[post=4591475] 20) Mard Geer-8.167[/post]
[post=4591231] 21) Mirajane Strauss-7.983[/post]
[post=4591204] 22) Precht Gaebolg-7.917[/post]
[post=4591058] 23) Lucy Heartfilia-7.733[/post]
[post=4590919] 24) Neinhart-7.450[/post]
[post=4590697] 25) Future Rogue Cheney-7.383[/post]
[post=4590248] 26) Kagura Mikazuchi-7.333[/post]
[post=4590163] 27) Wendy Marvell-7.033[/post]
[post=4589984] 28) Silver Fullbuster-6.750[/post]
[post=4589777] 29) Minerva Orland-6.683[/post]
[post=4589556] 30) Kyoka-6.550[/post]
[post=4589279] 31) Ultear Milkovich-6.283[/post]
[post=4589053] 32) Rogue Cheney-6.233[/post]
[post=4589013] 33) Erik "Cobra"-5.983[/post]
[post=4588937] 34) Macbeth "Midnight"-5.950[/post]
[post=4588113] 35) Arlock-5.850[/post]
[post=4587925] 36) Lyon Vastia-5.067[/post]
[post=4587728] 37) Cana Alberona-4.867[/post]
[post=4587607] 38) Elfman Strauss-4.483[/post]​
 
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Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it.

Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining.

Big thanks to my fellow hosts @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor, you guys really upped your game in this rating and it wouldn't have been possible without you. The same goes to @Brandish @DiMaria Yesta @Crescent_jinxgrace @Takuan @~Charging Lightning~ and @Belserion, you all did fantastic posts! :super

And in general I want to thank the mods for making this run so smoothly, I know for a fact that this thread easily could have turned to chaos without their intervention. In particular I want to thank @Brandish for sticky-ing the thread, this thread wouldn't have been anywhere near as active if it wasn't for you.

I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....

This poster was made by @Valhalla777, big thanks to him!

THE EARTH LAND MAGES RATE IS OFFICIALLY OVER!​
 

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Jellal got oneshotted by Neinhart. Him pushing back Acno instead of getting oneshotted like Serena is PIS BS. Straight and simple. DiMaria would oneshot his butt.
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Well dude thats the thing with the hax users, that they are not that strong physically and endurance wise. But the main strength of dimaria his her hax age seal and only ultear (who is herslef a time mage) and END (who is a demon so magic restraints doesn't work on him) were able to negate. There is a chance that that the mages who have immense amount of MP can negate thae hax spell. Someone like acnologia, zeref, august, irene who are the real top 4 mages of this series have immense MP could negate that effect. I doubt gildarts or laxus has that much high amount of MP than gildarts. They may be physically stronger than dimaria. Thats the conclusion that I can deduct out of this.
Actually 4 out of 5 of the people above Dim have counters to her hax. Acno is immune to magic and can eat it, Zeref has TS, August can copy and negate her magic, and bloodlusted END had the flames that burn through Time. Only Irene's counter hasn't been explained which I'm pretty sure she can offset her TS via Enchantment.

And Dim had the best defense showings of the S12 excluding top 2. She took DF Wendy punch and didn't even flinch, and she also was beating Sherria even tho Sherria was undoing her takeover with her GS ability. A max Sherria amped by Wendy barely won her so I wouldn't say she has weak physicals.
 

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I don't think Irene deserves to make it this far in the power rate...


Her dragon form is clearly restricted, according to the rules of the thread. That means she is competing with only her human form... which compares to the likes of Base Wendy and Erza.

Irene's feats as a human is quite minimal. She admitted pain to one of Erza's slashes and was profusely bleeding after tanking a few hits by Base Wendy + Erza.

Most of the Spriggans did better than that...

Ajeel and Neinhart handled Erza better than Human Irene did.

It doesn't help that Wendy out-enchanted her every single time and proved to be a worthy opponent for somebody like Irene.
 

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DiMaria vs Laxus - Dim thinks and time is stopped, Laxus gets his neck slit.

DiMaria vs Jellal- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Jellal gets his neck slit.

DiMaria vs Larcade- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Larcade gets his neck slit. (Pleasure is ineffective against her as well :hmph)

DiMaria vs Gildarts- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Gild gets his neck slit.

It is pretty cut and dry. DiMaria actually beat an S12 with zero effort. The others haven't.
 

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Not unusual at all. Your score is spot on.

For someone whose feats are pretty mediocre, I would say DiMaria deserves this rank (if not lower). The fact is that none of her attacks work on a high-tier mage (which is basically the top 10 on this list if you ask me):
  • Her laser beam was deflected by TO Sherria.
  • Age Scratch was resisted by DF Wendy.
  • Age Seal was negated by E.N.D.
Aside from these three characters, the only opponents DiMaria ever faced were Kagura and Brandish. The former is relatively weak; hence, she could not negate Age Seal but she did block one of DiMaria's sword slashes... As for the latter, DiMaria literally took her by surprise... And besides, Brandish is among the bottom of the Spriggan 12.

Conclusion: DiMaria is immensely overrated.
You can't just take out a characters entire arsenal and call her overrated kid.

Dimaria nearly rocked Chelias world hadn't Wendy place a barrier to protect her.
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I don't think Irene deserves to make it this far in the power rate...


Her dragon form is clearly restricted, according to the rules of the thread. That means she is competing with only her human form... which compares to the likes of Base Wendy and Erza.

Irene's feats as a human is quite minimal. She admitted pain to one of Erza's slashes and was profusely bleeding after tanking a few hits by Base Wendy + Erza.

Most of the Spriggans did better than that...

Ajeel and Neinhart handled Erza better than Human Irene did.

It doesn't help that Wendy out-enchanted her every single time and proved to be a worthy opponent for somebody like Irene.
Irene tuns her opponents into a slave rat. Drops multiple dues semas
 

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Irene tuns her opponents into a slave rat. Drops multiple dues semas

She didn't show that capability against Wendy. So what makes me believe that it will work against the Top 10 Mages of Ishgar?

By that logic, Jacob should be #1 because he can turn Stealth and instantly Transport everybody to death. But clearly, that wasn't the case for him, since he was eliminated a long while back.

The general consensus seems to be very different for Jacob and Irene. That's my point.
 

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She didn't show that capability against Wendy. So what makes me believe that it will work against the Top 10 Mages of Ishgar?

By that logic, Jacob should be #1 because he can turn Stealth and instantly Transport everybody to death. But clearly, that wasn't the case for him, since he was eliminated a long while back.

The general consensus seems to be very different for Jacob and Irene. That's my point.
Jacob put Brandish in his transport and was about to end her along with every guild member.

She didn't do it against Wendy because she wanted her body. Basic reading comprehension bud.
 

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You can't just take out a characters entire arsenal and call her overrated kid.

Dimaria nearly rocked Chelias world hadn't Wendy place a barrier to protect her.
Well, we don't know how much damage Sherria would have taken had Wendy not used her barrier to protect her. So it's kind of pointless to assume such things. But, one thing we know for a fact is that laser beams didn't work on TO Sherria. And to make matters worse, TO Sherria was capable of defeating DiMaria after reverting her.
 

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Jacob put Brandish in his transport and was about to end her along with every guild member.

She didn't do it against Wendy because she wanted her body. Basic reading comprehension bud.

That's exactly my point. Jacob can put everybody (including Irene) in Transport.

So the difference between their rankings shouldn't be this large.

Irene should be eliminated after or at least near Erza. And Jacob should be #1.
 

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That's exactly my point. Jacob can put everybody (including Irene) in Transport.

So the difference between their rankings shouldn't be this large.

Irene should be eliminated after or at least near Erza. And Jacob should be #1.
If you take out Irene's dragon form then you take out Natsu vs Zeref.
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Let's see how this corrupt bias scores turn out. If Gildarts isn't at number one then I call bullshit.
 

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If you take out Irene's dragon form then you take out Natsu vs Zeref.
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Let's see how this corrupt bias scores turn out. If Gildarts isn't at number one then I call bullshit.
sorry Honey but Natsu is the number One:yodawg:yodawg
 

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If you take out Irene's dragon form then you take out Natsu vs Zeref.
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Let's see how this corrupt bias scores turn out. If Gildarts isn't at number one then I call bullshit.

It's not my decision what to take out and what to keep.

The OP and managers of this thread already stated that Irene's Dragon Form and Natsu's Savage Emotions will not be taken into consideration. I'm simply abiding by the rules and pointing out my perspectives of the rankings.
 

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Do I need to pull up the afterword where Hiro states that authors don't like to use hax in battles? Bcs I swear can't is not the same as didn't. Erza would be a rat if Irene wanted so would Wendy.

Irene slaughtered Erza while enchanted by Wendy in human form. She beat Erza's butt while in Wendy's body. She could've killed Erza anytime she wanted but freaking plot and sentimentality stopped Irene from doing so.

First I see Dim downplay now Irene. Lord have mercy.
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Well, we don't know how much damage Sherria would have taken had Wendy not used her barrier to protect her. So it's kind of pointless to assume such things. But, one thing we know for a fact is that laser beams didn't work on TO Sherria. And to make matters worse, TO Sherria was capable of defeating DiMaria after reverting her.
That wasn't a barrier that was Wendy's Enchantments amping Sherria's stats. Sherria would've died had it not been for Wendy's stat boost. Laser beam were deflected by TO Sherria but she could still pierce her with them. Her GS magic kept undoing Dim's takeover. Constantly having to re-enter her takeover must've taxed her a lot. By the time Sherria hit Dim with her secret art Dim could only sustain half a takeover. Dim barely lost while having a hand tied behind her back and fighting her kryptonite that was amped twice. That is more impressive than what 83% of the S12s have showed.
 

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That wasn't a barrier that was Wendy's Enchantments amping Sherria's stats. Sherria would've died had it not been for Wendy's stat boost. Laser beam were deflected by TO Sherria but she could still pierce her with them. Her GS magic kept undoing Dim's takeover. Constantly having to re-enter her takeover must've taxed her a lot. By the time Sherria hit Dim with her secret art Dim could only sustain half a takeover. Dim barely lost while having a hand tied behind her back and fighting her kryptonite that was amped twice. That is more impressive than what 83% of the S12s have showed.
Alright, it wasn't a barrier. Anyways, like I said before, you can't just roll with the assumption that Sherria would have been knocked out by DiMaria's attack. I could argue otherwise and we would get nowhere. As for the laser beam, I don't see any indication of it having the capability to pierce TO Sherria. She already deflected it, so at the most, it would only cause minor injuries (like what the Jupiter Cannon did to Ajeel).

Also, I don't know where you're getting the idea that DiMaria constantly had to re-enter her takeover... From what I saw, she only reverted once and that was at the end of their fight when TO Sherria finally defeated her. I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one. It seems to me like you're painting the picture that DiMaria was at a disadvantage. But I simply think that she isn't as strong as people would like her to be.
 

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Do I need to pull up the afterword where Hiro states that authors don't like to use hax in battles? Bcs I swear can't is not the same as didn't. Erza would be a rat if Irene wanted so would Wendy.

Irene slaughtered Erza while enchanted by Wendy in human form. She beat Erza's butt while in Wendy's body. She could've killed Erza anytime she wanted but freaking plot and sentimentality stopped Irene from doing so.

First I see Dim downplay now Irene. Lord have mercy.
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That wasn't a barrier that was Wendy's Enchantments amping Sherria's stats. Sherria would've died had it not been for Wendy's stat boost. Laser beam were deflected by TO Sherria but she could still pierce her with them. Her GS magic kept undoing Dim's takeover. Constantly having to re-enter her takeover must've taxed her a lot. By the time Sherria hit Dim with her secret art Dim could only sustain half a takeover. Dim barely lost while having a hand tied behind her back and fighting her kryptonite that was amped twice. That is more impressive than what 83% of the S12s have showed.
No one said Erza is stronger than Irene. I said Erza is stronger than Natsu.
 

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Cheria didnt even have to regenerate against Dimaria, she wasnt even close to losing. Wendy's barrier simply saved Cheria the need to regenerate. Some basic punches and a single GS spell was all it took to put Dimaria down and TO Cheria was able to easily swat aside Dimaria's most impressive ability by far, even without GS advantage she is on her tier.
Anyway, END massacred Dimaria, so Chronos is still well below Gray tier.
 

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Cheria didnt even have to regenerate against Dimaria, she wasnt even close to losing. Wendy's barrier simply saved Cheria the need to regenerate. Some basic punches and a single GS spell was all it took to put Dimaria down and TO Cheria was able to easily swat aside Dimaria's most impressive ability by far, even without GS advantage she is on her tier.
Anyway, END massacred Dimaria, so Chronos is still well below Gray tier.
Well somehow i agree.
After all END's direct roar failed to leave any visible damage on Gray.
 

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Well dude thats the thing with the hax users, that they are not that strong physically and endurance wise. But the main strength of dimaria his her hax age seal and only ultear (who is herslef a time mage) and END (who is a demon so magic restraints doesn't work on him) were able to negate.
So by your own admission Larcade should be able to walk through Age Seal as he's an Etherious, in fact he's the closest being in existence to E.N.D.
There is a chance that that the mages who have immense amount of MP can negate thae hax spell. Someone like acnologia, zeref, august, irene who are the real top 4 mages of this series have immense MP could negate that effect.
Just fyi, when I say "immense magic power", I'm not saying they have MP that exceeds that of August/Irene/Zeref/Acno, simply that their MP should exceed that of a regular Spriggans by quite a bit.

Laxus could certainly be be counted as having immense MP, Wahl noted that a half-dead, MBP infested Laxus was still among Fairy Tail's top tier in terms of Magic Power. Keep in mind that this top tier includes people like Natsu and Gray, who are both capable of one-shotting/stomping Spriggans when it's called for. And as for Gildarts, he's always been the Ace of Fairy Tail and has only got stronger, I see no reason why he wouldn't be in the same category as Laxus.
I doubt gildarts or laxus has that much high amount of MP than gildarts. They may be physically stronger than dimaria. Thats the conclusion that I can deduct out of this.
Gildarts and Laxus are physically stronger than DiMaria, there's no questioning that. Chronos may have no sold a punch by DF Wendy, but that's DF Wendy. And base DiMaria got outright knocked back by a regular kick from DF Wendy. Wendy has never been a primary fighter, she's a support mage first and foremost.

On the other hand, a half-dead Laxus was knocking base Wahl back with no-named lightning infused punches and was tanking hits from base Wahl. The very fact that Wahl thought a half-dead Laxus was worth going Assault Mode for should speak volumes. The only reason Assault Wahl even got back on the offensive was because Laxus was having an MBP attack, the second Laxus was healthy and revealed he'd played Wahl, the latter crapped himself. After that Laxus killed him, admittedly with an asspull but it just goes to show that the only thing keeping Wahl in that fight was his lightning immunity and Laxus being half-dead.

As for Gildarts, the guy managed to blitzed August at the start of their fight and cube him. If he can cube August, he can cube DiMaria. Even if you argue against that, Gildarts can crash any laser beams from Chronos. And as for Age Seal, he should have comparable MP to Laxus so he would NLF it.
Jellal got oneshotted by Neinhart. Him pushing back Acno instead of getting oneshotted like Serena is PIS BS. Straight and simple. DiMaria would oneshot his butt.
Jellal got one-shotted by a spell that he voluntarily got hit by. And your ignoring the fact that it sent him through an entire boat and trapped him under an anchor underwater. Also Chronos' lasers were deflected by DF Wendy's shield, considering he blocked an attack from Acno her beam isn't doing shit.

And saying PIS about Acno, while true, doesn't exactly hold up because he was completely riddled with it post-470. Yes, even against Irene, had he been even somewhat smart he would have one-shotted her as Universe One was being cast.
DiMaria vs Laxus - Dim thinks and time is stopped, Laxus gets his neck slit.
When Age Seal's limit is Spriggan tier, the likes of Laxus should be able to NLF it. Laxus is someone who was about to casually kill a Spriggan at the start of this arc and was knocking base Wahl around whilst half-dead. If he was considered top-tier among FT when half-dead, his MP should be monstrous at full health, especially when you consider how FT's top-tiers are capable of humiliating Spriggans.
DiMaria vs Jellal- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Jellal gets his neck slit.
Jellal's MP should be far above a Spriggans, when Jellal changed the skyline in Hargeon Neinhart shat himself. Even if you don't count that, knocking Acnologia back is still impressive and would take more MP than a Spriggan considering the only other person to do that was Irene.

And don't bring up Acno being moved by Erza's swords as a counter to this, @Seven777 rightly brought up that swords are physical objects. Jellal and Irene are the only characters to knock Acno back with a spell/blast of magic. Logically, this would at least somewhat imply that his Magic Power is above that of the average Spriggans.
DiMaria vs Larcade- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Larcade gets his neck slit. (Pleasure is ineffective against her as well :hmph)
Tentacles work against anyone. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jokes aside, Larcade is the nearest thing in existence to E.N.D, he should walk through Age Seal like his successor did.
DiMaria vs Gildarts- Dim thinks and time is stopped, Gild gets his neck slit.
Or Gildarts cubes her the second the fight starts. Also, as I said above, he should NLF it due to his MP.
It is pretty cut and dry. DiMaria actually beat an S12 with zero effort. The others haven't.
Er, Laxus almost casually killed one at the start of the arc. Jellal one-shotted Neinhart once he got serious and later knocked back Acno and blocked an attack that was meant to kill Wendy. Gildarts would have won against August in moments had August not been a copy/nullify mage. Larcade dropped Laxus, Gildarts and more with a smile on his face. Natsu two-shotted an enhanced Spriggan, finished off Jacob in FDKM and one-shotted an immortal. Irene survived an encounter with Acnologia, knocked him back with magic and would have won her fight with Erza and Wendy had the Nakama-Queen not inspired her mother to commit suicide.

All of these feats are better than DiMaria one-shotting Brandish IMO, especially when you consider Brandish was caught off-guard.
 

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Since I saw you guys @Nemispelled @XXEliteXXAceXX said the same thing with Larcade, which do you think is stronger? Larcade or DiMaria?
Well, I like to think that they're on the same level (both have extraordinary defense and lack in attack power). But I gave Larcade a higher score (+0.5) because he was taken out by WSDM Sting who I put slightly above TO Sherria. Things will be clearer once I post my full list of scores at the end of the rate. Haha.
 
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