Discussion Earth Land Mages Rate - THE ULTIMATE POWER RANKING [BIG FINALE + STATISTICS]

[BluePegasus]

STATISTICS

Spoiler: Alakitasia ranking

1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Spoiler: Ishgar ranking

2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
17). TO Sherria Blendy - 8,850
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
30). Kyoka - 6,550
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
33). Erik “Cobra” - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
35). Arlock - 5,850
36). Lyon Vastia - 5,067
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4,483
Average: 7,82337

The winning continent is..

Spoiler

Alakitasia

Spoiler: Guild ranking

Spriggan Twelve
1). Irene Belserion - 12,200
6). Larcade Dragneel - 10,683
7). DiMaria Yesta - 10,667
9). God Serena - 10,017
11). Brandish μ - 9,533
12). Bloodman - 9,300
15). Invel Yura - 9,117
16). Wall Eehto - 9,017
18). Ajeel Ramal - 8,383
19). Jacob Lessio - 8,183
24). Neinhart - 7,450
Average: 9,504545

Fairy Tail
2). Natsu Dragneel - 11,750
3). Gildarts Clive - 11,583
4). Laxus Dreyar - 11,167
8). Erza Scarlet - 10,083
10). Gray Fullbuster - 9,950
13). Gajeel Redfox - 9,267
21). Mirajane Strauss - 7,983
23). Lucy Heartfilia - 7,733
27). Wendy Marvell - 7,033
37). Cana Alberona - 4,867
38). Elfman Strauss - 4.483
Average: 8,718091

Sabertooth
14). Sting Eucliffe - 9,233
25). Future Rogue Cheney - 7,383
29). Minerva Orland - 6,683
32). Rogue Cheney - 6,233
Average: 7,383

Crime Sorciere
5). Jellal Fernandes - 11,100
31). Ultear Milkovich - 6,283
33). Erik “Cobra" - 5,983
34). Macbeth “Midnight” - 5,950
Average: 7,329

Lamia Scale
17). Sherria Blendy - 8,850
36) Lyon Vastia - 5,067
Average: 6,9585

Mermaid Heel
26). Kagura Mikazuchi - 7,333
Average: 7,333

Tartaros
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,155667

Grimoire Heart
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
Average: 7,917

Avatar
35). Arlock - 5,850
Average: 5,850

(Balam Alliance
20). Mard Geer - 8,167
22). Precht Gaebolg - 7,917
28). Silver Fullbuster - 6,750
30). Kyoka - 6,550
Average: 7,346)

Most 13's
1). Natsu x 11
2). Irene x 10
3). Gildarts x 4
4). Larcade x 2
5). Laxus x 1, DiMaria x 1, Lucy x 1

 

[Gryffindor]

Well that was one heck of a ride, wasn't it? Here is the full list with links to the elimination posts in case anyone ever feels like checking them out again.

[post=4599653] 1) Irene Belserion-12.200[/post]
[post=4599652] 2) Natsu Dragneel-11.750[/post]
[post=4599651] 3) Gildarts Clive-11.583[/post]
[post=4598583] 4) Laxus Dreyar-11.167[/post]
[post=4597382] 5) Jellal Fernandes-11.100[/post]
[post=4597225] 6) Larcade Dragneel-10.683[/post]
[post=4596413] 7) DiMaria Yesta-10.667[/post]
[post=4595925] 8) Erza Scarlet-10.083[/post]
[post=4595453] 9) God Serena-10.017[/post]
[post=4595191] 10) Gray Fullbuster-9.950[/post]
[post=4594738] 11) Brandish µ-9.533[/post]
[post=4593900] 12) Bradman-9.300[/post]
[post=4593439] 13) Gajeel Redfox-9.267[/post]
[post=4593248] 14) Sting Eucliffe-9.233[/post]
[post=4592900] 15) Invel Yura-9.117[/post]
[post=4592813] 16) Wall Eehto-9.017[/post]
[post=4592320] 17) Sherria Blendy-8.850[/post]
[post=4591927] 18) Ajeel Ramal-8.383[/post]
[post=4591726] 19) Jacob Lessio-8.183[/post]
[post=4591475] 20) Mard Geer-8.167[/post]
[post=4591231] 21) Mirajane Strauss-7.983[/post]
[post=4591204] 22) Precht Gaebolg-7.917[/post]
[post=4591058] 23) Lucy Heartfilia-7.733[/post]
[post=4590919] 24) Neinhart-7.450[/post]
[post=4590697] 25) Future Rogue Cheney-7.383[/post]
[post=4590248] 26) Kagura Mikazuchi-7.333[/post]
[post=4590163] 27) Wendy Marvell-7.033[/post]
[post=4589984] 28) Silver Fullbuster-6.750[/post]
[post=4589777] 29) Minerva Orland-6.683[/post]
[post=4589556] 30) Kyoka-6.550[/post]
[post=4589279] 31) Ultear Milkovich-6.283[/post]
[post=4589053] 32) Rogue Cheney-6.233[/post]
[post=4589013] 33) Erik "Cobra"-5.983[/post]
[post=4588937] 34) Macbeth "Midnight"-5.950[/post]
[post=4588113] 35) Arlock-5.850[/post]
[post=4587925] 36) Lyon Vastia-5.067[/post]
[post=4587728] 37) Cana Alberona-4.867[/post]
[post=4587607] 38) Elfman Strauss-4.483[/post]​

 

[Ebony Maw]

Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it.

Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining.

Big thanks to my fellow hosts @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor, you guys really upped your game in this rating and it wouldn't have been possible without you. The same goes to @Brandish @DiMaria Yesta @Crescent_jinxgrace @Takuan @~Charging Lightning~ and @Belserion, you all did fantastic posts!

And in general I want to thank the mods for making this run so smoothly, I know for a fact that this thread easily could have turned to chaos without their intervention. In particular I want to thank @Brandish for sticky-ing the thread, this thread wouldn't have been anywhere near as active if it wasn't for you.

I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....

This poster was made by @Valhalla777, big thanks to him!

THE EARTH LAND MAGES RATE IS OFFICIALLY OVER!​

 

[sharkai]

I guess it depends on how you look at Erza's feats.

From my perspective, nothing is out of the ordinary. Gildartz matched August, who is probably one of the most formidable opponents in the entire Alvarez Arc. And he put up a relatively decent fight too, never once faltering.

Laxus and Gray easily have feats on the same tier as Erza. One killed a Spriggan while being double-handicapped while the other demolished a Spriggan in mostly base form & CQC.

Yeah i suppose
For me
Laxus ass pulled victory over wahl = gray ass pull victory over invel = erza confusing victory over ajeel
Both laxus and grays were tripping over pof and erza and ajeel both had help

And
Gildart matching august = erza matching irene

And thing that has no comparison
Erza over powering irene top tier move
This happened when erza was on pof mode

As for irene not being equal or stronger than august. I wont talk about that with someone who did not think that gmg kagura was above gmg jura. Portrayal was enough for jura. And it is enough for irene as well

 

[Jko]

Human Irene was stated to rival August in power multiple times.

Spoiler

They didn't even know she was a Dragon lmao.

Even Acnologia was impressed by fudging Human Irene's magical prowess.

Spoiler

I am not seeing how Human Irene doesn't deserve top place?

Spoiler

 

[Nemispelled]

Human Irene only has hype and mere statements to back her up.. August actually pushed Gildartz into a hard-fought battle.


The difference is clear:

August proved himself when the time finally came for him to do so.

He didn't just rely on some dramatic or flattering words to justify his hype.

 

[Demon Hunter]

in other words

Spoiler

Hype means jackshit.

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otherwise God Zeref would have soloed everyone but he got roasted worse than Bluenote.

 

[Seven777]

So do feats. Being too weak to do something before doesnt mean you're not strong enough to do it a couple of chapters later. See Erza casually watching Jellal try and kill himself doing something she easily did a few chapters later with no repercussions.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

I think it is better not to rely on things Brandish says, since she's wrong 12 times out of 10

 

[EmptySoul]

Human Irene only has hype and mere statements to back her up.. August actually pushed Gildartz into a hard-fought battle.


The difference is clear:

August proved himself when the time finally came for him to do so.

He didn't just rely on some dramatic or flattering words to justify his hype.

I completely disagree,imo August is the one running on hype more than irene is
Augusts overall feats are pretty pathetic next to Irenes yet hes still put above her by many people due to statements and hype

And u act like August beating up Gildarts is proof of his strength over Irene due to her struggling against Erza+Wendy when the truth is that Gildarts is currently weaker than most of the MCs

Gildarts is literally still running on that Tenroujima Hype 300 chaps ago of him being the strongest fairy tail wizard
Currently he doesnt have anything that would back that up

Ever since his return this arc,he barely hurt August and he only beat a mid-tier sprig who was weakened due to being a Historia
Not very impressive feats...
I would put Erza+Wendy>Gildarts anyday

I really wonder what the hell hes done thats made him rank in top 3 let alone top 5

 

[Demon Hunter]

I completely disagree,imo August is the one running on hype more than irene is
Augusts overall feats are pretty pathetic next to Irenes yet hes still put above her by many people due to statements and hype

And u act like August beating up Gildarts is proof of his strength over Irene due to her struggling against Erza+Wendy when the truth is that Gildarts is currently weaker than most of the MCs

Gildarts is literally still running on that Tenroujima Hype 300 chaps ago of him being the strongest fairy tail wizard
Currently he doesnt have anything that would back that up

Ever since his return this arc,he barely hurt August and he only beat a mid-tier sprig who was weakened due to being a Historia
Not very impressive feats...
I would put Erza+Wendy>Gildarts anyday

I really wonder what the hell hes done thats made him rank in top 3 let alone top 5

copy magic.

he is counter to... well everyone.

only Bloodman is above him.

August beats his opponents because he bores them to death with his Why his Majesty's son wasn't Loved.

 

[Jko]

Just hype...

Spoiler: Turns a permanent Winter into Spring

Spoiler: Pushed back Acno without Plot Armor

Spoiler: Casually terraforms a country

Spoiler: Can matter manipulate organic material

Can make inanimate objects into living people.

Spoiler: This is the highest lvl of Transmutation

Spoiler: Her creations gave BSS Mira a good fight

Casually Enhances 1-2 million fodder soldiers into above average warriors.

Spoiler

Spoiler: 4 Enhanced overpowered Red Pants Erza

Resisted Pleasure that instantly downed Laxus and Gild.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Toyed with an enhanced Erza

Spoiler: Blitzed an enhanced Erza

Took an enhanced Erza slice to the head while defenseless.

Spoiler

Spoiler: Beat the crap out of Erza in Wendy's body

Even Erza with all her BS plot force couldn't defeat Irene.

Spoiler

Yet Irene is only hype...

Spoiler

 

[sharkai]

Human Irene only has hype and mere statements to back her up.. August actually pushed Gildartz into a hard-fought battle.


The difference is clear:

August proved himself when the time finally came for him to do so.

He didn't just rely on some dramatic or flattering words to justify his hype.

Actually only august is running on hype.
His durability questionable. Having to dodge cana cards. Gildart metal arm magic probably wasnt even gildart strongest. Unlike lightening that surpasses lightening, which hints at being laxus strongest.

He has no good speed feat. Since gildart isnt a fast character like laxus or erza.
His nukes were either straight up tanked or dodged.
He cant seems to retain his copy magic. As we saw him unable to retain midnight refracter.
As people like to apply nfl to irene whose mp far exceeds erzs and say she cant tranform erza. They dont seems to want to do that august who seems to be unable to copy magic of mages with scary mp like springgans.

At the end of the day i dont even know whether august can solo erza. Since his useless nuke. Unabilty to retain other people magic. And erza being his weakness.
Can he even take a direct causal swipe from dragon irene. I dont know.

Also ars magia was a suicide magic. Design to destroy only a small city or big town. Just like thunder palace. Thats aoe is so underwhelming for someone with such a huge mp.

August is just hax. Like koyoka or midnight Nothing else

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I think it is better not to rely on things Brandish says, since she's wrong 12 times out of 10

You should also not relay on what august says. He seems kind of insane.
Especially his retarded implication that laxus nuke would do anything more than just tickel ajeel

 

[Demon Hunter]

You should also not relay on what august says. He seems kind of insane.
Especially his retarded implication that laxus nuke would do anything more than just tickel ajeel

are you sure its his implication or your bad implication that it wouldn't???

last time I checked, Elfman and Lisanna had enough DPS to beat Ajeel

 

[GL_Nova]

Hey y'all, first post. I've followed the forum for a while, but I had to make an account because this is rediculous. The Laxus hate has literally reached a level that makes no sense. Nevermind that Mashima has already admitted that Laxus like Gildarts has grown powerful enough that he has to come up with ways to take him out of events to make fights interesting. You have people acting like he doesn't have any good feats this arc. You cannot ignore the fact that he almost murdered Ajeel and did it casually. An did so with a no-name attack. You can claim it was Raging Bolt but you have absolutely no supporting evidence. What you do know is Ajeel'a reaction and August himself felt the need to intervene. August who is literally unimpressed with every other mage he meets. No PIS or POF involved. Second, stop bitching abt Red Lightning. It's been explained how it works, and is no different than any other random new attack a character uses when we haven't seen them for a while. An its the only named spell we see other than Lightning Dragon's Jaw. Which we never saw before the fight with Tempest . An it's still a non-DS technique. So we know Laxus hadn't even really gotten serious. An has everyone forgotten the panel when he clearly speed blitzs a powered up Acno. An he manages this in the middle of his assault. He just doesn't have a real effect bc at this point Acno is a god. He still landed a good hit, an is the only one to do so. (Acno clearly stands there to tank Gajeel's to send a message. Jellal and Laxus deserve to be up this high. They're clearly the pinnacle of their generation. Laxus edges bc he has overwhelming power, that's his attribute, that's how Mashima set him up. While Jellal is the quintessential mage, he's the only real candidate to inherit the mantle "King of Mages" he hasn't met a form of magic he couldn't learn/mimic. Wouldn't be surprised if he sets out to learn August's mimics.

 

[sharkai]

are you sure its his implication or your bad implication that it wouldn't???

last time I checked, Elfman and Lisanna had enough DPS to beat Ajeel

I said one shouldn't relay. That's all. August is insane you know. Asking stupid questions and commiting suicide for no apparent reason

Lisana + elfmen > three gods of ishigal + jura
True fact

I am very good reader of this manga. Easily predicted that laxus will amount to bs at the end. Just like how all the secondary characters were treated by mishma

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Hey y'all, first post. I've followed the forum for a while, but I had to make an account because this is rediculous. The Laxus hate has literally reached a level that makes no sense. Nevermind that Mashima has already admitted that Laxus like Gildarts has grown powerful enough that he has to come up with ways to take him out of events to make fights interesting. You have people acting like he doesn't have any good feats this arc. You cannot ignore the fact that he almost murdered Ajeel and did it casually. An did so with a no-name attack. You can claim it was Raging Bolt but you have absolutely no supporting evidence. What you do know is Ajeel'a reaction and August himself felt the need to intervene. August who is literally unimpressed with every other mage he meets. No PIS or POF involved. Second, stop bitching abt Red Lightning. It's been explained how it works, and is no different than any other random new attack a character uses when we haven't seen them for a while. An its the only named spell we see other than Lightning Dragon's Jaw. Which we never saw before the fight with Tempest . An it's still a non-DS technique. So we know Laxus hadn't even really gotten serious. An has everyone forgotten the panel when he clearly speed blitzs a powered up Acno. An he manages this in the middle of his assault. He just doesn't have a real effect bc at this point Acno is a god. He still landed a good hit, an is the only one to do so. (Acno clearly stands there to tank Gajeel's to send a message. Jellal and Laxus deserve to be up this high. They're clearly the pinnacle of their generation. Laxus edges bc he has overwhelming power, that's his attribute, that's how Mashima set him up. While Jellal is the quintessential mage, he's the only real candidate to inherit the mantle "King of Mages" he hasn't met a form of magic he couldn't learn/mimic. Wouldn't be surprised if he sets out to learn August's mimics.

Lol
Not laxus hate
The laxus wanked just dropped one or two decibels. Thats all
Acno fight clearly shows he is not head and shoulder above cobra who is at best ws tier. He aint one shotting anyone.

If you want to talk about god acono. Erza already showed how to blow god acono strongest form out of the sky.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

You should also not relay on what august says. He seems kind of insane.
Especially his retarded implication that laxus nuke would do anything more than just tickel ajeel

when was August proven to be wrong about that nuke ? And Ajeel sweating at that nuke gives me enough of an implication to believe so.

Brandish was proven to be wrong ESPECIALLY when hyping the spriggans, she lost almost any credibility she had if not all of it.

 

[sharkai]

when was August proven to be wrong about that nuke ? And Ajeel sweating at that nuke gives me enough of an implication to believe so.

Brandish was proven to be wrong ESPECIALLY when hyping the spriggans, she lost almost any credibility she had if not all of it.

When we saw laxus not one shotting any springgan without extreme bs and pof
And then saw him performing on par with people who are well below a springgan at then end.
He is not one shotting ajeel. He is just too weak

Brandish hyping springgan compared to good guys was wrong. This has always been the case. That is no difference then mira hype that gmg jura could handle gmg erza and gmg mira. Gmg jura winning against gmg erza alone would be shocking.
But when bad guys are compared to bad guys thats normally accurate.
Like gajeel>= aria. Even though aria feats shits on phantom gajeel feats
Or bluenote >> azuma or ultear
Or jura > minerva

Irene was hyped by brandish. Mira and mavis
All of them put human irene equal to red form august with exception of brandish.
Only reason her hype is being questioned is because her opponent was erza. The most hated character in fairy tail. If her opponent was laxus. People will singing completely different tone here

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

When we saw laxus not one shotting any springgan without extreme bs and pof
And then saw him performing on par with people who are well below a springgan at then end.
He is not one shotting ajeel. He is just too weak

What does Laxus even have to do with this ?

He would have one shot Ajeel had it not been for August's shield, we were shown the face of Ajeel at the sight of the nuke and its clear he would've been finished if not for the barrier.
And pretty much all FT fights have ended with BS, so why only call Laxus on it ?

Anyway, this strayed off the original topic of my comment, which was about Brandish's words for hyping spriggans, not Laxus.

 

[sharkai]

What does Laxus even have to do with this ?

He would have one shot Ajeel had it not been for August's shield, we were shown the face of Ajeel at the sight of the nuke and its clear he would've been finished if not for the barrier.
And pretty much all FT fights have ended with BS, so why only call Laxus on it ?

Anyway, this strayed off the original topic of my comment, which was about Brandish's words for hyping spriggans, not Laxus.

We are talking about believing hype. That is all
Wow. Shocked expression on ajeel is enough to show that nuke will one shot him.
Interestingly that expression wasnt all that difference from acono expression when irene nuked him

Of course i am gonna call out his bs. If he is sooo strong then he doesnt need bs.
Wahl vs laxus
Was basically
Erza vs koyoka 2.0
That is all

People still believe laxus can one shot ajeel. Some people are just so silly

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

We are talking about believing hype. That is all
Wow. Shocked expression on ajeel is enough to show that nuke will one shot him.
Interestingly that expression wasnt all that difference from acono expression when irene nuked him

Of course i am gonna call out his bs. If he is sooo strong then he doesnt need bs.
Wahl vs laxus
Was basically
Erza vs koyoka 2.0
That is all

I don't like discussing visual effects, so I am not gonna discuss Ajeel's face expression against Laxus or Acno's against Irene. But again, when you want to disprove the hype,bring me proof that what August said was actually wrong hype, just like what Brandish said.

Natsu is sooo strong and all he does is use BS. Same thing for Erza. If they are so strong then why don't they beat their opponent without BS ?

And I don't think Wahl vs Laxus reached the level of Erza vs Kyoka BS, since Laxus one shotted with his senses intact, meanwhile Erza won because she's erza, with no regard to her senses.

 

[Brandish μ]

This settles Laxus vs Erza...

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Laxus actually predicted that imo. So it's a tactical/intelligence feat

Re-read the Laxus post, it was a great write up Charging! I do suspect you made that pic with the acrostic poem

 

[Berty]

Honestly, the more we talk about this arc I just realize how incredibly bad all the fights were. Power scaling was thrown out the window and practically every character used POF so no one is ever going to see eye to eye on who's stronger than who.

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Natsu is sooo strong and all he does is use BS. Same thing for Erza. If they are so strong then why don't they beat their opponent without BS ?

I think that's more the writers fault than the actual characters, it's just sloppy story telling.