Games Mafia Game 56 - Dragon Ball Z: A New Threat - END GAME

Demonspeed · Sep 11, 2017

Holt said:
My hint was beans. That's a pretty big hint. Y'all wanted something but nobody seems to see this now?

Your actions?

xi0 · Sep 11, 2017

Just a sidenote, Day phase will end at an inconvenient time for me, so I'd recommend people transfer to Demon for any potential GenkiDama targets.

Spirit · Sep 11, 2017

Same here. It will end at something like 4am here.

Demonspeed · Sep 11, 2017

And if Greg is Bomb I will die?

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If I get enough energy for the GK, I am going to use it on Son. I don't want to go for Greg then Son for lynch. As I said before, I don't think abusing GK is going to help us. I was fine with dying to a Bomb before my reveal because it would have allowed my fellow Masons to be trusted. But in this situation I am not.

Erinyes · Sep 11, 2017

Before i forget in case

Transfer to demonspeed/paikuhan

Make good use of it ! :zomg

GrySun · Sep 11, 2017

Erinyes said:
Before i forget in case

Transfer to demonspeed/paikuhan

Make good use of it !

Why do you keep ignoring it when people ask you to claim a role Erin?

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Transfer to Demonspeed

@Lady pompom could you block gnut this night please? If he and daws really are the last ones you can easily prevent a kill by blocking him. And if we're wrong it's no problem since his claimed role can't be used anyway.
Even if you're orange escort it's best for you too to block him.

Erinyes · Sep 11, 2017

Gry i did give already many hints from the very 1st day, im very reluctant to say more for now.

Also im reluctant to lynch Gnut for now, i don't say he's cleared or anything, , but im afraid , it's quite a risky choice i think what if it turns out he told the truth #kato #battou.

Spirit · Sep 11, 2017

Erinyes said:
Gry i did give already many hints from the very 1st day, im very reluctant to say more for now.

Also im reluctant to lynch Gnut for now, i don't say he's cleared or anything, , but im afraid , it's quite a risky choice i think what if it turns out he told the truth #kato #battou.

- Erinyes as Pu'ar -> 1st time get the role, passive role, not diffuser

Organizized · Sep 11, 2017

This situation doesn't add up. I don't buy that gnut is Vandred and Daws' Mafia mate. But I can't really say what the play is.

For a second I got a brilliant flash of inspiration thinking the reason only one person died in N2 (and no one has yet died of poisoning) was that one Mafia recruited a Sleeper.
We know Panda was killed by orange Mafia (Tina), so Red Mafia would've made the recruit. In that case sacrificing the Burden (who to them is exactly that, a burden) to get the Townies to help take out the other mafia/other Townies could make sense, I guess. The Townies would believe there's only two Red members left, Vandred gave up, and that gnut's struggle would just be out of stubbornness.

It makes sense in my head until I realize they would have either had to know who the Sleeper was beforehand (through their Mafia Detective) so they could plan this all out in N2, or the whole thing is improvised since the beginning of D3.
If they knew who the Sleeper was, that would mean they found out about Gry's role in some other way... but I don't see any other way the could have. His hints didn't exactly paint him out to be Spy.

Yeah, I haven't really thought it through. It's taken me several hours of reading a few posts at a time to catch up, and I just wanted to get this out there so maybe someone could make sense of it, or just tell me how stupid an idea it is so I can drop it.

Spirit · Sep 11, 2017

Organizized said:
This situation doesn't add up. I don't buy that gnut is Vandred and Daws' Mafia mate. But I can't really say what the play is.

For a second I got a brilliant flash of inspiration thinking the reason only one person died in N2 (and no one has yet died of poisoning) was that one Mafia recruited a Sleeper.
We know Panda was killed by orange Mafia (Tina), so Red Mafia would've made the recruit. In that case sacrificing the Burden (who to them is exactly that, a burden) to get the Townies to help take out the other mafia/other Townies could make sense, I guess. The Townies would believe there's only two Red members left, Vandred gave up, and that gnut's struggle would just be out of stubbornness.

It makes sense in my head until I realize they would have either had to know who the Sleeper was beforehand (through their Mafia Detective) so they could plan this all out in N2, or the whole thing is improvised since the beginning of D3.
If they knew who the Sleeper was, that would mean they found out about Gry's role in some other way... but I don't see any other way the could have. His hints didn't exactly paint him out to be Spy.

Yeah, I haven't really thought it through. It's taken me several hours of reading a few posts at a time to catch up, and I just wanted to get this out there so maybe someone could make sense of it, or just tell me how stupid an idea it is so I can drop it.

Can we, I, have some hints as to what your role is?

Demonspeed · Sep 11, 2017

Even if someone had been poisoned, he would not die because of the Burden since the night has been skipped.

GrySun · Sep 11, 2017

Erinyes said:
Gry i did give already many hints from the very 1st day, im very reluctant to say more for now.

In your list it says passive role. Is a previous hint missing or do you really think that's enough? Which passive role could be so valuable not to claim it at this point?

You're looking shady right now Erin.

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Organizized said:
This situation doesn't add up. I don't buy that gnut is Vandred and Daws' Mafia mate. But I can't really say what the play is.

For a second I got a brilliant flash of inspiration thinking the reason only one person died in N2 (and no one has yet died of poisoning) was that one Mafia recruited a Sleeper.
We know Panda was killed by orange Mafia (Tina), so Red Mafia would've made the recruit. In that case sacrificing the Burden (who to them is exactly that, a burden) to get the Townies to help take out the other mafia/other Townies could make sense, I guess. The Townies would believe there's only two Red members left, Vandred gave up, and that gnut's struggle would just be out of stubbornness.

It makes sense in my head until I realize they would have either had to know who the Sleeper was beforehand (through their Mafia Detective) so they could plan this all out in N2, or the whole thing is improvised since the beginning of D3.
If they knew who the Sleeper was, that would mean they found out about Gry's role in some other way... but I don't see any other way the could have. His hints didn't exactly paint him out to be Spy.

Yeah, I haven't really thought it through. It's taken me several hours of reading a few posts at a time to catch up, and I just wanted to get this out there so maybe someone could make sense of it, or just tell me how stupid an idea it is so I can drop it.

I considered sleeper but I'm unsure if the hosts would notify the whole mafia or only the leader/player who targetted. If the whole mafia knew he was recruited then I still think this is silly. Daws could've done all he did without sacrificing Vandred, but at this point I'm done trying to make sense of their actions.
Nobody claimed regular townie either. It could be a Traitor, but I don't really get how that one works in a 2-mafia setup.
So recruiting is possible but I don't think it happened.

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Demonspeed said:
Even if someone had been poisoned, he would not die because of the Burden since the night has been skipped.

I wonder, maybe the hosts would just move the death to next night. Same with the lover, I think he would still die in such a situation but if he didn't, we screwed up by not killing Daws and Vandred last day to keep A.ulq alive.
Weird interaction though. But in both poisoner/lover case they should die "next night", so we could still have a delayed poisoner kill this night.

Demonspeed · Sep 11, 2017

Yes that's what I think. The death is postponed to the next night.

Organizized · Sep 11, 2017

WithYouInSpirit said:
Can we, I, have some hints as to what your role is?

At this point I'm pretty much doomed to be of as much use as Vanilla Townie for the rest of the game, especially with last Night skipped.

Demonspeed · Sep 11, 2017

Surprised that people decided to transfer energy to me. I did say that I would use it on Son. Are you really fine with a GK kill + lynch on Greg? Or do you wan to lynch someone else?