The rocks were crumbling around Acnologia. That would be magic. Whether or not it was coming from his hands or not doesn't really matter. The point is that he was about to attack Natsu, and was stopped. It's odd that Acnologia would stop his own attack for no reason.
I believe Acnologia is as resistant to magic as Igneel is resistant to fire. If you want to harm Igneel with fire, you need to be above him in terms of magical power. Same with Acnologia.
There's no reason to assume that Silver was a mage before Keith revived him and had him learn devil slaying magic. Even if he did learn ice magic, it wouldn't be the same type of ice-magic that Gray, Lyon, and Ur learned. None of those 3 are completely immune to ice attacks either. Gray essentially inherited Silver's power when he obtained his magic power, and he wasn't completely immune to Invel's ice attacks either. If you're saying that Silver's immunity to ice doesn't come from his devil slaying magic and he didn't learn any other type of ice magic before learning DES, then how is that different from saying Silver is immune to ice "because he's Silver"?
Ah, well then, I guess I misunderstood what you said. I thought you were referring to the other panel where Acnologia was charging his attack from his hands.
The explosion didn't seem to affect Natsu, but maybe Acnologia was prepared to launch a physical attack.
What I'm saying is that Silver is immune (has high resistance) to ice because he uses Ice Magic. It's not because of his DeS powers.
All Ice Mages have good resistance to extremely cold temperatures.
Of course, some Ice Mages naturally have higher resistance compared to others. ( In this case, Silver has unusually high resistance - which makes him somewhat "immune" to ice )
I do agree that Silver didn't "learn" to become an Ice Mage.
But when Keyes gave him Ice DeS Magic, Silver essentially obtain immunity by becoming an "Ice Wizard" rather than from his "Ice Slayer Advantage".
Not really. He is ranked high because of fan hype. Nothing else.
How exactly would the kick show the impact. It was upwards motion.
August is in his bored voice implief the attack would kill him. He never acknowledged laxus. I dont even know if he acknowledged gildarts.
Lol. Both laxus fist and erza swords are physical. And magical. And there was a huge difference. Who cares its a mindless beast. Its above human acno. And the attack looked it damaged him. He looks very uncomfortable arcing like that. And she completely knocked him out of the sky.
Marakrov is not stronger than them lol
Lol. Taven tail only tricks. Tricked gray nothing. Elflmen alone would slaughter that entire guild.
Natsi lfd was too much for tempesta. He would have made short work of him if it wasnt for that water.
Gray and laxus had emotional boost. That why you saw yuri there and mavis talking about friends. No. Laxus didnt know about wahl thus he wouldnt make stupid lightening that will work on wahl. He ass pulled that move at that very moment. And he needed extreme pof to do it. And he also needed wahl to stand still. Again wahl is nothing more that low tier springgan. The difference between wahl and irene or august is pretty much same as gmg rufus and gmg jura.
Lol laxus too strong to write. Sttonger than acno i guess. Lol
Everyone survived the fight. The attack which put already wrecked cobra down put relatively fresh laxus down. Acono allwed him to attack he was completely causal.
And no point having only august and irene top tier. Or mishma could could have had two lacarde like characters too. In gmg arc there was only one jura thus mishma had erza take out two very next strongest after jura one ofter the other
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But dont you think springgans are stronger than likes of mard or hades.
Koyoka hax should have allowed her to put the entire guild down causally. But plot forced her to lose. Same happened with springgans. Transport time stop all stopped by stupid plots.
He had to because the mishma was hurrying through the story. Instead of exploring demonification and dragonization or one magic, mishma was just using one shot gallore
You think serena is weaker than cobra too?
If they are top tier why didnt they kill of acono in tartaros arc. Or 400 years ago. There is a huge difference between top tier and low tier
I thought atlas flame was scared of end and acono. I might be wrong. Motherglare has to be on the same tier as atlas flame. They pretty much went toe to toe. But why would atlas flame be above acono. What did he achieve. We cant scale motherglare with others because motherglare never performed against anyone else.
How is august stronger than aconologia. Both aconologia and august has same time of hax. Being immune to magic. But unlike acono august doesnt seems to pack a punch
What do you think mishma thinks of acono? You think he made acono weak on purpose or something.
The reason that beating him is still a goal of Natsu is because even the guild recognizes his strength. You are genuinely trying to look at this arc and argue it invalidates the place he's had all manga.
Could have had a shockewave, could have thrown him back, any number of ways. There was more of an impact and reaction on the attack Laxus survived.
an you know this how? What about his voice seems bored? What about it makes the comment invalidated. He clearly acknowledged the damage that attack would have done. It's the entire reason he steps in and saves Ajeel. August, the General of the Spriggans, clearly states that he thinks the attack would have killed Ajeel.
Erza has a ton of swords, but the same way Cana's cards are magical. An it wasn't a magical attack, it was literally hundreds of swords slamming into him. The same way Christina isn't more powerful than Laxus is, mass works a certain way.
Boy please. Makarov was stronger than them on that island no question. That right there just literally invalidated the rest of your credibility. You seriously believe that?
Elfman at the end of the series maybe. You just keep making more and more rediculous claims. You could have used Gajeel or anybody else, you go with Elfman.
Tempester had just as much fight left in him as Torofusa did. An he kept going for a min. Your once again making an unsupported assumption. You seem to be good at those.
See, that would make since if this wasn't after a year long time-skip which we've already been confirmed Laxus spent the majority of training. An that you can just as easily explain that moment, and seeing Yuri, as his motivation and inspiration for the spell. Which is what's mentioned. You can argue execution all day. You can't compare a new spell that is clearly done by him, to Gray in the moment absorbing ice that was just a problem for him, and creating a brand new technique on the spot.
This is something that Mashima has said. It's why we didn't get a ton of Gildarts and Laxus bc he has trouble writing good fights for them. Ain't gotta like it bro.
Mashima has been using the same style to show speed blitzes his entire career. Laxus got blitz and landed an attack. Acno tanked it, but this is an Acno that just devoured one of the largest magical sources of the series. An the dude is immune to magic.
The gap between Jura and Minerva and them is rather pronounced. As is the way the others are shown. Mashima decided to craft his story that way, it's the impact he wanted. This was fun though.
@Nemispelled what I don't get about ur argument is that how is anco a low tier dragon when he slays dragons for years and beat ingeel 400 years ago and at Tartarus arc? Also how is august>anco when he admitted that he doesn't chance against him especially when he speedblitz pass him Idk how is Alta flame>anco when he tanked a ingeel roar do U think that 50% ingeel<AF
@Nemispelled what I don't get about ur argument is that how is anco a low tier dragon when he slays dragons for years and beat ingeel 400 years ago and at Tartarus arc? Also how is august>anco when he admitted that he doesn't chance against him especially when he speedblitz pass him Idk how is Alta flame>anco when he tanked a ingeel roar do U think that 50% ingeel<AF
Acnologia is a low-tier dragon because that's what his feats proved. Yes, he's been slaying dragon for centuries, but he technically did have an advantage against them. Same with half-dead Igneel.
It's the same way with DeS Gray beating Mard Geer. The demon slaying advantage allowed Gray to oneshot Mard Geer with Ice Devil's Zeroth Destruction Bow.
Without IDeSM, Gray andDF Natsu would have lost to Mard.
August words was just Mashima adding hype to the story/plot. August could have easily defended himself against Acnologia's speedblitz by casting his shield barrier, similar to how Jellal blocked Acnologia's blast.
Acnologia proclaimed to be "immune to magic", but guess what defeated him?
Larcade called himself "Zeref's son". But they weren't even biologically related.
As you can see, words can only go so far. They need feats to back it up. Especially when Acnologia has done some things to destroy his credibility.
Half-Dead Igneel =/= 50% Igneel .
50% Igneel = Half-Powered Igneel
Half-Dead means he's on the verge of death or is dying.
So yes, full-powered Atlas Flame should be stronger than a soulless half-dead Igneel.
Acnologia is a low-tier dragon because that's what his feats proved. Yes, he's been slaying dragon for centuries, but he technically did have an advantage against them. Same with half-dead Igneel.
It's the same way with DeS Gray beating Mard Geer. The demon slaying advantage allowed Gray to oneshot Mard Geer with Ice Devil's Zeroth Destruction Bow.
Without IDeSM, Gray andDF Natsu would have lost to Mard.
August words was just Mashima adding hype to the story/plot. August could have easily defended himself against Acnologia's speedblitz by casting his shield barrier, similar to how Jellal blocked Acnologia's blast.
Acnologia proclaimed to be "immune to magic", but guess what defeated him?
Larcade called himself "Zeref's son". But they weren't even biologically related.
As you can see, words can only go so far. They need feats to back it up. Especially when Acnologia has done some things to destroy his credibility.
Half-Dead Igneel =/= 50% Igneel .
50% Igneel = Half-Powered Igneel
Half-Dead means he's on the verge of death or is dying.
So yes, full-powered Atlas Flame should be stronger than a soulless half-dead Igneel.
But that's my point he has the ability in which makes him stronger so how can say he isn't when he can use that at whim? Altho I disagree with anco not able to beat dragons without the soul taking ability. Ur advantage logic doesn't make sense because I could say that the only reason y dragons>humans because they have highly immune to magic. If they weren't people like Gray could solo dragons.
ur gray example is debnked becuase Tartaros gray can't beat mard geer in a 1v1 yes he had an advantage but that doesn't mean he is stronger. We have seen this in manga several times.
But august couldnt set a barrier from preventing gildartz to manage to get a hit on him.
2. What anco did to GS is different from what he was doing to do to erza. Physical attack=\=anco blast.
3. I do agree that sometimes words=/=feats but i could that august couldn't blitz Cana becuase she a manage to put a block up. I mean u believe that august was telling the truth that laxus could have oneshotted ajeel.
He is immune to magic tho u saw him getting hit by ingeel roar,laxus punch and jellal meteor. Come on now no1 can beat PLOTSU. Put august in anco role he would receive the same treatment.
But that's my point he has the ability in which makes him stronger so how can say he isn't when he can use that at whim? Altho I disagree with anco not able to beat dragons without the soul taking ability. Ur advantage logic doesn't make sense because I could say that the only reason y dragons>humans because they have highly immune to magic. If they weren't people like Gray could solo dragons.
ur gray example is debnked becuase Tartaros gray can't beat mard geer in a 1v1 yes he had an advantage but that doesn't mean he is stronger. We have seen this in manga several times.
But august couldnt set a barrier from preventing gildartz to manage to get a hit on him.
2. What anco did to GS is different from what he was doing to do to erza. Physical attack=\=anco blast.
3. I do agree that sometimes words=/=feats but i could that august couldn't blitz Cana becuase she a manage to put a block up. I mean u believe that august was telling the truth that laxus could have oneshotted ajeel.
He is immune to magic tho u saw him getting hit by ingeel roar,laxus punch and jellal meteor. Come on now no1 can beat PLOTSU. Put august in anco role he would receive the same treatment.
I was specifically talking about Acnologia's raw power and skill when I ranked him as a low-tier dragon. With his soul extraction ability, of course he can slay most dragons. But again, I classify that as a major advantage. On an even level playing field, Acnologia is low-tier dragon in my book.
And dragons aren't immune to magic. They just have extremely high durability, which is why non-dragon slayers like Gray would stand no chance.
I don't see how the Gray example is debunked.. I never said anything about Tartaros Gray > Mard Geer.
In fact, it's the exact opposite: Mard Geer >>> Gray
But with IDeSM, Gray was able to oneshot Mard Geer with Ice Devil's Zeroth Destruction Bow. That's a fact straight out of the manga.
Like I said, it's because Gray had a major advantage against Mard Geer. Similar to how Acnologia had a major advantage against the dragons he killed.
August was able to tank a hit from Gildartz...
That's why he didn't even bother putting up a shield barrier.
Acnologia's blast is stronger than his bare hands...
August couldn't blitz Cana because Gildartz was there. Without her father protecting her, Cana would not have lasted long against August.
I believe that Laxus could oneshot Ajeel because Ajeel has proven to be weak. He was stunned and couldn't react fast enough to block the lightning bolt. Then he got beaten by Erza, who is not even on Laxus' caliber.
There are sufficient feats to back up August's words.
Acnologia might have high durability. But he is not immune to magic. That's already been proven.
There are plenty of people who have beaten "Plotsu" before:
Gildartz, Fukuro, Future Rogue, Silver, and Mard Geer are just a few examples...
Gildartz forced Natsu to his hands & knees simply by powering up on Tenrou.
Fukuro swallowed Natsu whole in ToH arc.
Future Rogue had the upper-hand against Natsu until he got hit by Atlas Flame's fire blast.
Silver insta-froze Natsu in Tartaros Headquarters.
I was specifically talking about Acnologia's raw power and skill when I ranked him as a low-tier dragon. With his soul extraction ability, of course he can slay most dragons. But again, I classify that as a major advantage. On an even level playing field, Acnologia is low-tier dragon in my book.
And dragons aren't immune to magic. They just have extremely high durability, which is why non-dragon slayers like Gray would stand no chance.
I don't see how the Gray example is debunked.. I never said anything about Tartaros Gray > Mard Geer.
In fact, it's the exact opposite: Mard Geer >>> Gray
But with IDeSM, Gray was able to oneshot Mard Geer with Ice Devil's Zeroth Destruction Bow. That's a fact straight out of the manga.
Like I said, it's because Gray had a major advantage against Mard Geer. Similar to how Acnologia had a major advantage against the dragons he killed.
August was able to tank a hit from Gildartz...
That's why he didn't even bother putting up a shield barrier.
Acnologia's blast is stronger than his bare hands...
August couldn't blitz Cana because Gildartz was there. Without her father protecting her, Cana would not have lasted long against August.
I believe that Laxus could oneshot Ajeel because Ajeel has proven to be weak. He was stunned and couldn't react fast enough to block the lightning bolt. Then he got beaten by Erza, who is not even on Laxus' caliber.
There are sufficient feats to back up August's words.
Acnologia might have high durability. But he is not immune to magic. That's already been proven.
There are plenty of people who have beaten "Plotsu" before:
Gildartz, Fukuro, Future Rogue, Silver, and Mard Geer are just a few examples...
Gildartz forced Natsu to his hands & knees simply by powering up on Tenrou.
Fukuro swallowed Natsu whole in ToH arc.
Future Rogue had the upper-hand against Natsu until he got hit by Atlas Flame's fire blast.
Silver insta-froze Natsu in Tartaros Headquarters.
I was specifically talking about Acnologia's raw power and skill when I ranked him as a low-tier dragon. With his soul extraction ability, of course he can slay most dragons. But again, I classify that as a major advantage. On an even level playing field, Acnologia is low-tier dragon in my book.
And dragons aren't immune to magic. They just have extremely high durability, which is why non-dragon slayers like Gray would stand no chance.
I don't see how the Gray example is debunked.. I never said anything about Tartaros Gray > Mard Geer.
In fact, it's the exact opposite: Mard Geer >>> Gray
But with IDeSM, Gray was able to oneshot Mard Geer with Ice Devil's Zeroth Destruction Bow. That's a fact straight out of the manga.
Like I said, it's because Gray had a major advantage against Mard Geer. Similar to how Acnologia had a major advantage against the dragons he killed.
August was able to tank a hit from Gildartz...
That's why he didn't even bother putting up a shield barrier.
Acnologia's blast is stronger than his bare hands...
August couldn't blitz Cana because Gildartz was there. Without her father protecting her, Cana would not have lasted long against August.
I believe that Laxus could oneshot Ajeel because Ajeel has proven to be weak. He was stunned and couldn't react fast enough to block the lightning bolt. Then he got beaten by Erza, who is not even on Laxus' caliber.
There are sufficient feats to back up August's words.
Acnologia might have high durability. But he is not immune to magic. That's already been proven.
There are plenty of people who have beaten "Plotsu" before:
Gildartz, Fukuro, Future Rogue, Silver, and Mard Geer are just a few examples...
Gildartz forced Natsu to his hands & knees simply by powering up on Tenrou.
Fukuro swallowed Natsu whole in ToH arc.
Future Rogue had the upper-hand against Natsu until he got hit by Atlas Flame's fire blast.
Silver insta-froze Natsu in Tartaros Headquarters.
But that's the problem ingeel have raw power above anco but that doesn't mean he is stronger ur looking at one category claiming that he is stronger. Elf man is more raw power than brandish but that doesn't mean she weaker. Brandish has an hax ability which is an "Advantage" What I'm trying to say is having advantage at times doesn't prove ur stronger/ certain characters has certain abilities that are classified as an advantage.
I know he tanked it that not my point... I mean we know he can tank Cana's cards but he didn't what I'm saying that he Could prevent that by putting up a barrier.
I didn't say anco blast<bare hard I said what he did to GS was different from what he did to erza. Especially when august is immune to caster magic plus august would been blitzs by anco.
Bro again what we know that august would destroy Cana. But what I'm saying august couldn't Cana manage to put a block up to tank august meteor.
Exactly just like evry1 else fear ancologia becuase he was unstoppable and he show his feats blitzes pass 3 sprrigans laugh off every1 attacks.
I could agree that the reason why he didn't tank POF natsu attack because he was split in half.
But that's the problem ingeel have raw power above anco but that doesn't mean he is stronger ur looking at one category claiming that he is stronger. Elf man is more raw power than brandish but that doesn't mean she weaker. Brandish has an hax ability which is an "Advantage" What I'm trying to say is having advantage at times doesn't prove ur stronger/ certain characters has certain abilities that are classified as an advantage.
I know he tanked it that not my point... I mean we know he can tank Cana's cards but he didn't what I'm saying that he Could prevent that by putting up a barrier.
I didn't say anco blast<bare hard I said what he did to GS was different from what he did to erza. Especially when august is immune to caster magic plus august would been blitzs by anco.
Bro again what we know that august would destroy Cana. But what I'm saying august couldn't Cana manage to put a block up to tank august meteor.
Exactly just like evry1 else fear ancologia becuase he was unstoppable and he show his feats blitzes pass 3 sprrigans laugh off every1 attacks.
I could agree that the reason why he didn't tank POF natsu attack because he was split in half.
Hax magic is not the same as "having a specific advantage".
Brandish's mass manipulation works on everybody as long as she is stronger. It's just her form of magic. Her power can be defined by any battle she takes part in.
Acnologia's soul extraction only works on dragons. Since it only works on a specific race, not every battle is representative of his power. That means Acnologia had an exclusive advantage against half-dead Igneel and the other dragons he killed.
August could put up a barrier. But just because he can, doesn't mean he will. If he can easily dodge Cana's card by moving out of the way, why would he waste energy putting up a shield?
Especially since it's not even worth the effort...
Besides, August could never hit Cana because Gildartz would always put a safe distance between them.
Acnologia meant to kill GS and Erza. Only difference is that Jellal saved Erza by blocking it.
Acnologia stated that he was "immune to magic" while he was split in half. So clearly his words were debunked when Natsu destroyed him with magic.
And splitting in half was entirely his fault. Nobody is to blame for that but him.
You got it all wrong:
Fairy Tail as a guild may never have been defeated before.
Hax magic is not the same as "having a specific advantage".
Brandish's mass manipulation works on everybody as long as she is stronger. It's just her form of magic. Her power can be defined by any battle she takes part in.
Acnologia's soul extraction only works on dragons. Since it only works on a specific race, not every battle is representative of his power. That means Acnologia had an exclusive advantage against half-dead Igneel and the other dragons he killed.
August could put up a barrier. But just because he can, doesn't mean he will. If he can easily dodge Cana's card by moving out of the way, why would he waste energy putting up a shield?
Especially since it's not even worth the effort...
Besides, August could never hit Cana because Gildartz would always put a safe distance between them.
Acnologia meant to kill GS and Erza. Only difference is that Jellal saved Erza by blocking it.
Acnologia stated that he was "immune to magic" while he was split in half. So clearly his words were debunked when Natsu destroyed him with magic.
And splitting in half was entirely his fault. Nobody is to blame for that but him.
You got it all wrong:
Fairy Tail as a guild may never have been defeated before.
Acnologia in his human form alone killed 4-5 Dragons like Zirconis and Animus without using his Soul absorption technique and without breaking a sweat.
Acnologia in his human form alone killed 4-5 Dragons like Zirconis and Animus without using his Soul absorption technique and without breaking a sweat.
I said Acnologia is a low-tier dragon. Never said he was weak. His feats are pathetic, but at the end of the day, he's still a 400-year old dragon-human hybrid.
So I guess Jellal and Cobra >>> 4-5 Zirconis-tier dragons and Animus?
Jellal casually blocked Acnologia's blast with a shield barrier and Cobra managed to even tank a hit from Acnologia in his human form.
By that logic, Wendy + Natsu could destroy 10-15 dragons like Zirconis and Animus...
Acnologia being a low-tier dragon is pretty well justified in that case.
Acnologia in his human form alone killed 4-5 Dragons like Zirconis and Animus without using his Soul absorption technique and without breaking a sweat.
Well he has DS advantage. I have no trouble believing that Gray'd be able to kill 4-5 Tempesta's with ease as long as he has DeS advantage, and Tempesta is more or less on his level.
I said Acnologia is a low-tier dragon. Never said he was weak. His feats are pathetic, but at the end of the day, he's still a 400-year old dragon-human hybrid.
So I guess Jellal and Cobra >>> 4-5 Zirconis-tier dragons and Animus?
Jellal casually blocked Acnologia's blast with a shield barrier and Cobra managed to even tank a hit from Acnologia in his human form.
By that logic, Wendy + Natsu could destroy 10-15 dragons like Zirconis and Animus...
Acnologia being a low-tier dragon is pretty well justified in that case.
Cobra tanked a hit from Human Acnologia, who you said killed 4-5 Zirconis-tier dragons and Animus. Cobra's durability in human form is pretty damn high if we're going by that logic.
And I don't know where you got the idea that Acnologia dividing into 2 forms made him weaker... that was an assumption made by the fans.
In fact, Acnologia stated in the manga that consuming the time rift made him even more powerful.
As you can see, Acnologia was actually stronger than he was before by consuming the time rift. I don't see any evidence here that suggests his spirit form was weakened because it split into 2.
If anything, his Human Form's power was still the same and his spirit actually had greater magic power than before.
His dragon form didn't beat an entire continent.
In fact, hisdragon formlost to a bunch of exhausted mages who just finished fighting a full-scale war with the Alvarez Empire.
Ishgar was practically fatigued and injured... Anybottom-tier dragon should be able to beat that.
I doubt a full-powered mid-tier dragon is weaker than a half-dead Igneel.
Igneel was practically on his last dying breaths... that puts him at an ultimate disadvantage.
Cobra tanked a hit from Human Acnologia, who you said killed 4-5 Zirconis-tier dragons and Animus. Cobra's durability in human form is pretty damn high if we're going by that logic.
And I don't know where you got the idea that Acnologia dividing into 2 forms made him weaker... that was an assumption made by the fans.
In fact, Acnologia stated in the manga that consuming the time rift made him even more powerful.
As you can see, Acnologia was actually stronger than he was before by consuming the time rift. I don't see any evidence here that suggests his spirit form was weakened because it split into 2.
If anything, his Human Form's power was still the same and his spirit actually had greater magic power than before.
His dragon form didn't beat an entire continent.
In fact, hisdragon formlost to a bunch of exhausted mages who just finished fighting a full-scale war with the Alvarez Empire.
Ishgar was practically fatigued and injured... Anybottom-tier dragon should be able to beat that.
I doubt a full-powered mid-tier dragon is weaker than a half-dead Igneel.
Igneel was practically on his last dying breaths... that puts him at an ultimate disadvantage.
And what did Cobra tank?A kick.And it is not right to call it tanking.
Erik himself admitted that he had never received such a strong blow.
Obviously Acnologia didn't kill those Dragons with his kick.
And most importantly Acnologia fought to kill those Dragons while Acnologia fought the DS trying not to kill.He needed their power to maintain the Ravine.
Secondly,Acnologia got this power after eating the time-space.Just to maintain this immense power he needed to separate himself.So naturally it means he needed to divide himself and his power.
Thirdly,his Dragon form didn't lose to anyone.They only temporarily immobilised him.In fact before that they all lost to his Dragon form miserably.
And how half-dead Igneel is weaker than a mid tier Dragon?Don't all these mid tier Dragons were killed by Acnologia and he bathed in their bloods.Not one Dragon but countless Dragons.Irene's flashback also mentions Acnologia was the one who single handedly ended the entire war.So how can a single low tier Dragon defeat countless Dragons?And don't say he used Soul absorbing techniques.Irene's flashback and the Dragon corpses clearly shows they were personally killed by Acnologia.
And this half-dead Igneel managed to tore up Acnologia's hand indicating the difference between him and all other Dragons is as large as the gap between August and an unnamed Alvarez Soldier.
I don't see why it's wrong to call it tanking? By definition, Cobra did take a hit from Acnologia and survived it.
A physical attack like that was enough to rip a hole through God Serena.
Taking a hit from Acnologia is no small feat. And I never called Cobra dragon-tier. But clearly, killing 4-5 Zirconis tier dragons and Animus doesn't make him a top-tier dragon if Cobra could tank a hit like that.
Human Acnologia is overrated. He's a low-tier dragon at best.
And most importantly Acnologia fought to kill those Dragons while Acnologia fought the DS trying not to kill.He needed their power to maintain the Ravine.
Acnologia himself said he intended to take each of the dragon slayer's life and slay them.
All that "balance" and "maintaining the Ravines of Time" stuff that you mentioned was stated by Anna.
Her words is the least credible source here considering she kept getting her facts wrong about the timelapse for several chapters. She's the last person I would trust.
Acnologia's words > Anna's words
And Acnologia clearly stated that he wasn't going to let any of the dragon slayers live.
Secondly,Acnologia got this power after eating the time-space.Just to maintain this immense power he needed to separate himself.So naturally it means he needed to divide himself and his power.
Again, I don't see where it is stated that "dividing yourself in 2" = "having your power split in half".
His human form was split from his dragon form. That means there is no reason why his Human Form wouldn't retain the same amount of MP that it initially possessed.
If anything, Acnologia had even greater power than before. This is explicitly stated in the manga itself.
Thirdly,his Dragon form didn't lose to anyone.They only temporarily immobilised him.In fact before that they all lost to his Dragon form miserably.
And how half-dead Igneel is weaker than a mid tier Dragon?Don't all these mid tier Dragons were killed by Acnologia and he bathed in their bloods.Not one Dragon but countless Dragons.Irene's flashback also mentions Acnologia was the one who single handedly ended the entire war.So how can a single low tier Dragon defeat countless Dragons?And don't say he used Soul absorbing techniques.Irene's flashback and the Dragon corpses clearly shows they were personally killed by Acnologia.
And this half-dead Igneel managed to tore up Acnologia's hand indicating the difference between him and all other Dragons is as large as the gap between August and an unnamed Alvarez Soldier.
His dragon form didn't lose. But it didn't win either.
And to be honest, it should have won. Any bottom-tier dragon should be able to beat a bunch of injured and exhausted mages.
Ishgar literally just finished fighting a large-scale war. They were in their weakest and most vulnerable state.
Just because those dragons were personally killed by Acnologia, it doesn't mean that they didn't have their souls absorbed at one point...
Without Igneel telling the readers that his soul was absorbed, we wouldn't even know about that his soul was extracted just by looking at him. So yeah, he killed a bunch of dragons because he is capable of stealing their souls.
I don't see why it's wrong to call it tanking? By definition, Cobra did take a hit from Acnologia and survived it.
A physical attack like that was enough to rip a hole through God Serena.
Taking a hit from Acnologia is no small feat. And I never called Cobra dragon-tier. But clearly, killing 4-5 Zirconis tier dragons and Animus doesn't make him a top-tier dragon if Cobra could tank a hit like that.
Human Acnologia is overrated. He's a low-tier dragon at best.
Acnologia himself said he intended to take each of the dragon slayer's life and slay them.
All that "balance" and "maintaining the Ravines of Time" stuff that you mentioned was stated by Anna.
Her words is the least credible source here considering she kept getting her facts wrong about the timelapse for several chapters. She's the last person I would trust.
Acnologia's words > Anna's words
And Acnologia clearly stated that he wasn't going to let any of the dragon slayers live.
So he was obviously fighting to kill them.
Again, I don't see where it is stated that "dividing yourself in 2" = "having your power split in half".
His human form was split from his dragon form. That means there is no reason why his Human Form wouldn't retain the same amount of MP that it initially possessed.
If anything, Acnologia had even greater power than before. This is explicitly stated in the manga itself.
His dragon form didn't lose. But it didn't win either.
And to be honest, it should have won. Any bottom-tier dragon should be able to beat a bunch of injured and exhausted mages.
Ishgar literally just finished fighting a large-scale war. They were in their weakest and most vulnerable state.
Just because those dragons were personally killed by Acnologia, it doesn't mean that they didn't have their souls absorbed at one point...
Without Igneel telling the readers that his soul was absorbed, we wouldn't even know about that his soul was extracted just by looking at him. So yeah, he killed a bunch of dragons because he is capable of stealing their souls.
I told Cobra surviving a physical hit from is impressive but not as impressive as killing four Dragons.Acnologia used actual attacks against the Dragons not physical attacks.You can even see smoke rising from those Dragon's bodies.
You are making it like Acnologia used 4-5 kicks on those Dragons and they died while Cobra survived the same which is obviously not the case.
And tanking the attacks mean taking an attack without even a single damage.Erik mentions he felt immense pain which is not tanking acc. to strict definition.
Secondly,Acnologia did use those Dragons as crystals isn't it?Moreover he was talking about real Dragons in that context.
Thirdly,If you look at the corpses of those Dragons in Irene's flashback you will see they all have similar injuries as Animus and Zirconia had.And when Igneel and others lost their souls they had enough time to survive unlike those Dragons who were immediately killed.
How powerful are the dragons he killed though? I doubt all dragons are top tiers or even middle tiers. Lamy is a demon, would anybody be impressed by Gray slaying a few thousand Lamy's? Besides, they were fighting each other while they were fighting Acnologia.
Well he has DS advantage. I have no trouble believing that Gray'd be able to kill 4-5 Tempesta's with ease as long as he has DeS advantage, and Tempesta is more or less on his level.
Really? Then whats with the massive gap between Igneel and other dragons? Acnologia not oneshotting dragons just lends further credence to Acnologia being weaker than the dragons he fought.
Really? Then whats with the massive gap between Igneel and other dragons? Acnologia not oneshotting dragons just lends further credence to Acnologia being weaker than the dragons he fought.
Ain't gotta like it bro. 
