I wonder if something similar also applies to Hak....He doesn t know this reason of Soo Won, but Hak never consciously mentions the other possible reason..that the situation of Kouka could have also be a source of motivation for the murder of King Il.
There is the whole thinking from the country angle.
That s why I believe, that he is subconsciously aware of it. I am not sure about it,if you have to be "an angel" to reflect upon the reasons for the deeds of a person that caused you pain. I think that is a part of the process called "forgiveness".
A side not...I am not so sure about Zeno...Zeno is not a rational person per se in comparison to Soo Won for example.
Yes though in Hak's case emotions surely get the better of him. It's not easy to look at a person's good deeds in such a situation.
Actually many decisions of this person are more based on feelings/emotions.
Zeno recognized something when he saw Soo Won. So I think that Zeno just knows more than the others but doesn t reveal his knowledge, since it could maybe affect Yona or the others negatively (That s just the kind of guy
Neither Jeaha nor Shin ha don t seem to feel any animosity towards Soo Won.
Ik soo told Yona that it was fate, that she met with him, correct?
.Yes I agree in the past he was emotional. But he changed.
He followed Yona around with a clear head, I think it was basically to check if she was a good person and her intentions were good. Once he saw that she is helping the people of Kouka, he made the logical decision to follow her. And he is also the only one in the group who questions her about her future plans. He brings up the possibility of storming the castle. He pretty much throws options at Yona to test her and every time Yona says the throne is not important. I think Zeno knows what he is doing most of the time and is wiser than Soo-Won in many aspects since he has lived for so long.
Zeno wants Yona to take her own path and not interfere with knowledge that he has. And in my opinion that is wise too. Unless it's life threatening, he probably will only reveal what he knows in the end.
Inside they don't, but in Sei they DID show animosity towards him. It's because they are with Yona so their mind isn't able to follow their heart. Though Zeno has had strange encounters with Soo-Won two or three times which have left even Soo-Won baffled. Zeno is that one guy Soo-Won won't be able to figure out.
It's possible. I always felt King Hiryuu didn't want to be on the throne ,and felt being a king was a burden. King Il's death could have been fate's plan.
Not ignoring her would actually mean persecuting her and the Dragon Warriors.
I don t think that a person who is prone to make decisions based on their feelings is able to suddenly change, since the last instance they use for making the decision are still their emotions.So I must say..I don t think that there is a person who always is 100 % rational...there is just a tendency for a person to be more rational or to trust one s feelings and institution more. And I perceive Zeno as the intuitive type.Hmm it seems you and me interpret Zeno's character differently
Yes I agree in the past he was emotional. But he changed.
It was one time at the beginning that he questioned her, since I wished for Yona to have actually an aim. Since she still didn t thought too much about it. And I am not sure if it was just for Yona s sake. Zeno asks, why she would need the dragon warriors...Since he considers them his family...I think...he wishes to protect them.
I don t think that Zeno has a kind of master plan or that he is actually leading the group. The things he keeps to himself are often topics that would rather aggravate the situation.Wiser...Zeno knows a lot it seems. He actually learned much about the situation. But is he wise? I would say...that the outcome of his decisions will show it.
No. Soo Won was prone to make rational decisions and plan his moves since he was a child.
I agree that Zeno wishes for Yona to chose her own way of life...but with keeping secrets...I don t know. I say you also influence a situation if you keep secrets, because you wish to protect people. If they had the information, they could decide for themselves. With Zeno not revealing the information he has, he actually is in control of the situation. Even though I don t think it is 100 % calculation in Zeno s case. He tends to be especially protective towards people.
I think you refer to the scene where Judo wishes to kill Hak. Surely they look rather angry, since they wish to protect him. But I cannot see that as a sign of having negative emotions/feelings towards Soo Won. Jeaha protected Soo Won involuntarily in the water tribe arc for example. If he really harboured much negative feelings towards Soo Won, he would have rather helped Hak or taken Hak s place in punching Soo Won. As far as Soo Won doesn t touch any of their group, except for Kija, the dragon warriors don t feel much hate towards Soo Won.
I think that unfortunately it fits into how things have been handled so far to make Yona face as little consequences of her actions as possible.
I think Soo-Won doesn't want to confront Yona and put her in trouble because of his attachement towards her and Hak. Keishuk realizes that.
We aren't talking about any person here, we are talking about Zeno who lived a 1000 years or more and therefore his outlook on life changed. I find him more rational/logical than the others and his intuition comes from years of experience being alive.
If this was the case he should have immidietely joined Yona but he observed her and made a decision based on what he saw.
Zeno loves his family/group but he also curious to know how everything will turn out. He knows Yona is different from Hiryuu so he seems to be watching everything from above.
No neither do i think Zeno is leading the group or has a plan. He is just letting things take its course without guiding Yona too much and I think this is a good thing, because he doesn't want his decisions to influence Yona. Maybe he would help Yona if she asked for help. Again quite a logical thing to do.
Yes I am agreeing, I am saying Zeno is the one who is more emotional when it comes to his group and friends. But with everything else he seems rational, balanced and for the most part unfazed by the situation.
I think he is doing the right thing by not revealing much, because as I said above, he wants Yona to take her own decisions and see where this takes them.
This does not mean they like Soo-Won, they still feel he is Yona's enemy. Whereas Zeno is just curious to know what Soo-Won thinks and feels.
It's not only intuition, Zeno has made a logical decision based on Soo-Won's actions and words so far, that Soo-Won isn't a bad person or king. He asked Soo-Won questions to test him...like if he desired the dragon's powers.
Sadly Keishuk is already being hated on lol. I find him a very interesting character, it is clear he really cares for Soo-Won. Could the step-brother theory be true after all?
Shoujo romance is full of cliches and we hardly see any romance moments in AnY so there is really nothing wrong with this if it does turn out to be a jealous moment. Big deaaal. I hope they just confess, that's all I want at this point, and if jelousy is the catalyst then so be it. 
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I find Yona to be quite immature when it comes to these matters, so while cliche, it would be okay if she got 'jealous'.
Lol I guess it is because people expect more of AnY since it is not your typical shoujo. Although the romance in it is kinda typicalSadly Keishuk is already being hated on lol. I find him a very interesting character, it is clear he really cares for Soo-Won. Could the step-brother theory be true after all?
About Cliches...why can't we fangirls have our moment without people raining or our parade all the time *sigh*. Let us have our moment.
I am really going to enjoy the next chapter
@ bolded part: you are right, that is the most likely scenario. I actually wouldn't mind if it turned out like this.
Ha. My impression is that it is the other way around...Zeno was a more intuitive person from the start..meaning that he decided based on the feelings he had. The rational thought process is him adapting to the situation.
So you think that Yona is an "all-right person" is a logical reason for Zeno to follow Yona? And him following Yona had nothing to do with how much he missed being part of the team?
Zeno engages directly in the fight and I don t think he has such a high opinion of himself, that he thinks that he control the situation. If he keeps secrets, than merely because he thinks that the people would have a negative reaction to it, if it was revealed too soon.
If he has no plan...how rational is he? Being rational means also that you must know which steps lead to which result. But as far as I can see...Zeno is more reacting to the current situation (his feelings and worries incite this behaviour of his, than having a clear-thought out step-to step plan.
But he is hindering her by making those decisions, since he doesn t let Yona decide how she would react to those informations. In fact he keeps those secrets, because he thinks it is for the better...that is him caring about Yona and the others in a way.
That doesn t mean that they dislike him either. They didn t show much animosity. Shin ha even thinks that he is similar to Yona, that he has a strong but quiet air about him. Jeaha thought that he could trust him....
It is highly unlogical. Soo Won used Lily as an excuse to take over Sei and Zeno was aware of it, meaning he caught him by lieing. Soo Won killed King Il and nearly Yona too....
Dumbledore would be Soo Won. Dumbledore highly manipulated Harry into killing Voldemort. That s why he resembles more...at least that is my impression Soo Won than Zeno.
Zeno is not that cold-hearted that he would gamble with the life of others. He tries to watch over people, but him not revealing certain things or keeping secrets didn t work out well in every situation...like for example with Yakshi.
Likewise. It is fun to talk about it every once in a while.In anycase this just my interpretation of Zeno, you are free to have your own
It's not about "all-right" person - it's more about "what is she willing to do for the country" and observed her for a while. Out of all the dragons only he assessed this. So I think it's logical. If he missed being part of the team so much, he would not have assessed her and would have joint her in the beginning.
I don't know about this. Zeno doesn't seem like an emotional person to me at all. He seems more on the unfazed and logical side. Let's agree to disagree here.
This is why he is not telling Yona the information he knows, because he does not want his information to influence her decisions. He wants Yona to follow her own path. I do agree he cares for Yona and Co, but I don't think that's why he is keeping info from her.
I think if you read above I never said they disliked him. Yes, in their heart they think he is a good person - but on the outside and in their mind they feel he is Yona's enemy. This is what I think.
It is logical because Soo-Won has seen royalty change so many times in thousands of years, that he must have a good idea what Soo-Won is upto. It's not intuition but experience.
Really? I would never think of Dumbledore as Soo-Won haha. For me Soo-Won is more like Snape. Interesting perspective though.
Yes but perhaps the info isn't always life threatening but could really alter the path Yona wants to take and he doesn't want to give her that info. For example, what if he has some info about Soo-Won's family that would instigate Yona to take revenge for her dad? Something along those lines. Just an example.
Yups
If it is clearly demonstrated in the previous pic , that he really wished for it and he thanks the gods, that he is able to meet them...Then most likely it is not cool calculation on his part.
What? For real? Showing that he likes the dragon warriors...Jumping for joy, because he met them
Yona can even more follow her own part, if she is aware of certain information. If you don t have this information, you cannot react to it.
In Soo Won s case, there is a clear difference between showing emotions and having them. Soo Won has feelings, even though he doesn t express them. The murder of King Il and Soo Won wishing to kill him with his own hands....pretty risky for a level-headed person. The only reason I can imagine is, that Soo Won wished to kill King Il, like his father was killed.
I think the dragon warriors (except Kija) are not so sure about Soo Won. They would fight him, (if they can-I am not sure if that "thing" that prevented Kija from moving would also be activated in the other dragon warriors.), if he would be a danger for Yona. But just then. I was talking about feelings and not perception.
Since every person is an individual and every person s decision can be quite different. I think you could know a thousand kings and still be surprised about the outcome.
But that would be Yona s decision. Her decision and just hers, if she wants to alter the already chosen path, or if she keeps the direction.
Yona does praise people a lot actually. She praises the dragons all the time, and she also praised Tae-Jun and Lily. And she praises mommy Yoon too. She also isn't the type of person who feels like taking credit for all accomplishments, she is just that the face of the group. I don't know why she needs to surpass Soo-Won as a ruler - because she doesn't want to be one anyway. According to me she is already a better person, and emotionally stronger and more empathetic than Soo-Won. After all, Soo-Won wasn't able to get rid of his feelings of revenge, whereas Yona doesn't even think about revenge anymore, and only looks ahead. As someone who likes Yona, I think that's enough for me. Someone like Yona who cares for all of humanity is not suited as a Queen of one country and doesn't need to be one.Looking forward to the next chapter. I am curious if Yona will stay with Lily or leave or the plot will focus on her romance.........
One big thing I dislike here is to see characters praise how great Yona is repeatedly in all single arc. It seems to be forceful plot leading to brainwashing.
I'd rather want to see Yona praises other characters more. This would mean she respect people and shows more king's love in her trait in order to surpass Suwon. (I remember Suwon did give people credit once).
I already explained this.