Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Luca11]

MHA - Sales in 2015: (6 volumes)
Rank 27 || 2,190,845
Promised Neverland - Sales in 2017: (6 volumes)
Rank 12 || 2,093,790

Wow, look at the massive drop in overall print sale. MHA sold 100,000 more prints in 2014 than TPN did in 2017, but ranked more than 10 places lower.

 

[cody]

I always think Kimetsu would probably suit Sunrise, since it reminds me a lot of Inuyasha and Keikkaishi which are produced by Sunrise, even though the studio is more famous for their original series.

I'd take Sunrise happily any day over Toei and Pierrot, since I do trust them as a studio.

 

[Caiops]

RobotxLaserbeam new PV

 

[cody]

RobotxLaserbeam new PV

I love orange, I need to catch up on the manga.

 

[savethecat]

What's the Neverland vids on Jump's YouTube all about. They uploaded like 4 vids this morning

 

[shoyoboyo]

Having said that, I don't think that just because a studio has produced many successful anime of a genre, they would always be the best choice when it comes to that genre. Take Production I.G and sports anime. While Kuroko and Haikyuu are extremely successful with high production value, Welcome to the Ballroom, its next attempt at sports anime, flops ridiculously. This happens despite the fact that they brought in almost the exact same team that did Haikyuu, with animators specialised in dance animation and many notable names from AoT, Your Name, and BNHA. They even have Hayashi Yuuki (Haikyuu and BNHA) writing the music for it and Kikuta Hiromi as sound director, who has directed the sound for some of the best Haikyuu episodes. Yet its production value is disappointing (especially the sound department, you can see my main grievance with this anime), the manga sale gets negligible boost.

I was so disappointed with the Ballroom anime. I was super hyped because Haikyuu and Kuroko were great. I was looking forward to some outstanding dance sakuga. Instead, all we got were a bunch of animated stills of faces. Dropped it at around 7 or 8.

Wow, what a waste. They should've got all that talent to work on HZ, it would've yielded them a better result. Production IG better pickup HZ, it's ripe and so much content to work with that if the anime is done right then we'll see a lot of backlog sales.

You’re gonna get a Toei anime whether you like it or not.

 

[SharkBait]

I was so disappointed with the Ballroom anime. I was super hyped because Haikyuu and Kuroko were great. I was looking forward to some outstanding dance sakuga. Instead, all we got were a bunch of animated stills of faces. Dropped it at around 7 or 8.

The 2nd half has been so good

 

[cody]

What's the Neverland vids on Jump's YouTube all about. They uploaded like 4 vids this morning

I was wondering the same thing.

You’re gonna get a Toei anime whether you like it or not.

At this point I'd like an adaptation in general to happen. I don't want HZ to end up like Mr. Fullswing and Rising Impact, even if those are from a long time ago.

As for the Ballroom anime, I got sidetracked with other things and put it on hold on episode 5, I love the manga and I didn't think the anime was bad from what I've seen.

 

[Halloween]

I think you're discounting the boost winning the manga taicho award would give. Golden Kamuy got a HUGE boost initially from winning it.

Also, as an aside, does Neverland still qualify for the next manga taicho award?

 

[Aipom626]

We should switch to a new thread for 2018.Now that issue 1 is out.This one is becoming too long.

I just looked at the first page of this thread, and the very first discussion was about the imminent cancellation/lack of fit for Spring Weapon. Glad to see some things haven't changed throughout the year lol

 

[tirakai]

And on that note, if Cross Account gets cancelled first, won't that mean Spring Weapon will have outlasted a series that both ranks and sells better than it?

 

[Aipom626]

And on that note, if Cross Account gets cancelled first, won't that mean Spring Weapon will have outlasted a series that both ranks and sells better than it?

Spring Weapon ranked above Cross Account, and I believe Shudan as well, for the average TOC placement. There's a post somewhere in this thread that had the average placement for every series this year, including the ones that were already cancelled, and the gap between Spring Weapon and the cancelled realm (which includes Shudan and Cross Account) was surprisingly significant. The only ones above it to get axed were that Sesuji dance one (but it ended pretty early in the year) and Samon (which was a bit above Spring Weapon in the averages)

 

[Mammo]

SW#1 did it before with Amalgam, Dancing midgets, Samon, Hungry Marie, so if this happens it's nothing new

this manga clearly get preferential treatment

 

[tirakai]

Spring Weapon done okay earlier but Cross Account is consistently above it now, it hasn't had a high rank in a good few weeks. I think it's sold worse than every other cancelled series since it started but now it's not even getting the occasional high ranks to justify continuing to outlast them.

 

[Drmke]

Isn't Spring Weapon a low page-count gag manga? Why do y'all get so upset that it's still around? It won't leave enough space for anything other than another gag manga y'all will complain about...

 

[savethecat]

Isn't Spring Weapon a low page-count gag manga? Why do y'all get so upset that it's still around? It won't leave enough space for anything other than another gag manga y'all will complain about...

I don't think anybody hates SW#1
Based on the 1st 3 chapters I found it decent.
But all of us are just wondering why it's still around. The sales are terrible and the rankings are inconsistent.
Love it or hate it, these things usually lead to cancellation

 

[cody]

I'm so intrigued about Spring weapon that I desperately want to read it, I need to know what's the deal.

 

[tirakai]

It's not a short gag series like Isobe or Lycopene, the chapters are normal length (well, I think they tend to be 15-16 rather than 18-19 but that's true for MHA a lot these days too).

The series itself is decent enough but it's just plain odd how it keeps despite selling worse than them (and having pretty much zero sales growth too), and by the looks of it will probably last past next round despite now seeming to be settling as perma-bottom 3. Especially considering it was until ch 14 or 15 where it got a non dead bottom ranking, past the point a lot of stuff gets cancelled at (that also go on to sell better than Spring Weapon). There's really no reason for it to still be around, it's clearly not popular and has no growth despite all the promotion.

 

[TyVip]

Also, as an aside, does Neverland still qualify for the next manga taicho award?

If it keeps up the performance and has less than 8 volumes by next nomination round (which is like next month), then yes.

 

[cody]

It's not a short gag series like Isobe or Lycopene, the chapters are normal length (well, I think they tend to be 15-16 rather than 18-19 but that's true for MHA a lot these days too).

The series itself is decent enough but it's just plain odd how it keeps despite selling worse than them (and having pretty much zero sales growth too), and by the looks of it will probably last past next round despite now seeming to be settling as perma-bottom 3. Especially considering it was until ch 14 or 15 where it got a non dead bottom ranking, past the point a lot of stuff gets cancelled at (that also go on to sell better than Spring Weapon). There's really no reason for it to still be around, it's clearly not popular and has no growth despite all the promotion.

Shueisha are playing backwards 3 dimensional chess, they clearly see something we don't.