Games Mafia Game 59 - Shingeki no Kyojin: Festival of Death - END GAME

[Spirit]

Ending Credits

Thank You for Playing Mafia Game 59!

Player Actions Report

Spoiler: Day 1

GrySun (Prosecutor)> Open Gift Box >> Gift #2 (1 night worth of MP protection)
Gryffindor (Politician)> Corrupt Farfalla's to Vote >> GrySun
Jammin (Threesome candidate) > guesses Vandred and Belserion

Spoiler: Night 1

James Rye (Bodyguard) > Protect Emperor Spriggan
MarmaladeSky (Barkeeper) > Hardy, GrySun, Gryffindor, Holt >> Holt >>> Reveal Role
SonOfDaws (Spy) > Monkey D. >>> targeted Holt
Vandred (Mason Recruiter) >Recruit Belserion
Kato756 (Prostitute) > no action
Erinyes (Defuser) > no action
Zasz (Sane Det) > Investigates Vandred <<<< Innocent
Holt (Sane Doc) > Protect Hardy
Desin24 (Insane Det) > investigates Farfalla <<<< Innocent
Farfalla (Santa Claus)> desin24 >> Not Voter Disease
Gnut (Serial Killer) > kills Desin24
Mafia Kill: Monkey D.Dragon (M. Janitor) > kill Holt
Demonspeed (M.Escort) > Farfalla

Spoiler: Day 2

Erinyes (Bomb defuser)> Open Gift Box >> Gift #3 (Transfer) role changes to Daytime Vigilante
Jammin (Threesome candidate) > guesses gnut and Erinyes
Gryffindor (Politician)> Corrupt GrySun's to Vote >> Arjuna

Spoiler: Night 2

James Rye (Bodyguard) > > Protect Zasz
MarmaladeSky (Barkeeper) > Demonspeed ; GrySun ; Gryffindor ; Farfalla >> reveal
SonOfDaws (Spy) > Monkey D. >>> targeted Farfalla
Vandred (Mason Recruiter) >Recruit Emperor Spriggan > succeeds
Kato756 (Prostitute) > no action
Erinyes (Defuser) > no action
Zasz (Sane Det) > investigate Hardy >>> Guilty
Farfalla (Santa Claus)> Demonspeed >> not-voter disease (succeeds)
Gnut (Serial Killer) > Kill Vandred
Mafia Kill: Monkey D.Dragon (M. Janitor) > kill Farfalla
Demonspeed (M.Escort) > Erinyes

Spoiler: Day 3

Daykill from Erinyes (Daytime Vigilante)>> Ambrosia
Jammin (Threesome candidate) >guesses Gryffindor and EmptySoul
Gryffindor (Politician)> Corrupts Belserion's vote > Demonspeed.

Spoiler: Night 3

James Rye (Bodyguard) > > Protect Zasz
MarmaladeSky (Barkeeper) > Empty, gnut, Demon >> gnut >>> Redirect
SonOfDaws (Spy) > Monkey D. >>> targeted Farfalla
Kato756 (Prostitute) > block demonspeed
Zasz (Sane Det) > Investigate GrySun <<< innocent
EmptySoul (Time bomb) > explode with GrySun
Gnut (Serial Killer) > Kill Monkey-D Dragon
Mafia Kill: Monkey D.Dragon (M. Janitor) > kill Belserion
Demonspeed (M.Escort) > block James Ryes (unsuscessful)

Spoiler: Day 4

Jammin (Threesome candidate)> guesses Demonspeed > fails
Gryffindor (Politician)> Corrupts Erinyes's vote > Demonspeed.

Spoiler: Night 4

James Rye (Bodyguard) > > Protect Zasz
MarmaladeSky (Barkeeper) > monkey ; jammin ; gnut > block Monkey
Zasz (Sane Det) > Investigate James <<< innocent
Gnut (Serial Killer) > Kill James
Mafia Kill: Monkey D.Dragon (M. Janitor) > kill James
Demonspeed (M.Escort) > block James Ryes (unsuscessful)

Spoiler: Day 5

Zasz (Sane Det) gets gift #4 Promotion > has the right to cast an extra vote via PM

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Role List

• @GrySun -(Reiner) (Prosecutor) killed Night 3
• @Dried Ambrosia - (Gunther) (Mafia Boss) daykilled Day 3
  
• @MarmaladeSky - (Eld) (Bar Keeper)
• @Erinyes - (Keith) (Bomb Defusing Townie >>> Daytime Vigilante)
• @Holt - (Mikasa) (Sane Doctor) killed Night 1
• @Reebi (Nile) (Insane Doctor) lynched Day 1
• @Vandred - (Jean) (Mason Recruiter) killed Night 2
• @gnut - (Marco) (Serial Killer) lynched Day 5
  
• @Demonspeed - (Marlowe) (Mafia Escort) lynched Day 4
  
• @Jammin - (Petra) (Threesome Candidate)
• @Kato756 - (Connie) (Prostitute) hostkilled Day 4
• @Belserion - (Sasha) (Bulletproof Townie >>> Mason) killed Night 3
• @SonOfDaws - (Ian) (Spy / Lover) killed Night 3
• @Hardy - (Eren) (Mafia Member) lynched Day 3
  
• @desin24 - (Bertolt) (Insane Detective) killed Night 1
• @Zasz - (Hitch) (Sane Detective)
• @EmptySoul - (Mike) (Time Bomb) exploded Night 3
• @James Rye - (Hange) (Bodyguard) killed Night 4
• @DiMaria Yesta - (Ymir) (Mafia Burden) hostkilled Day 3
  
• @Emperor Spriggan - (Krista) (Vengeful Townie >>> Mason)
• @Gryffindor - (Annie) (Politician)
• @Farfalla - (Armin) (Santa Claus) killed Night 2
• @Arjuna - (Rico) (Mafia Strongman) lynched Day 2
• @MonkeyD-Dragon (Oluo) (Mafia Janitor / Lover) suicided Night 4

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Thank you all for playing the game even in this busy period around christmas. Thank you @Lambu and @Lady pompom for hosting with me. You two are great.

MVP: @gnut for lasting so long in a pretty bad scenario

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[Belserion]

Okay suppose everyone says what you‘re saying. Passive and that they‘re a townie, and that‘s enough. What then?
Makes me wonder why we even play with roles, we could just have everyone be vanilla townies and mafias. Since we love to make the game harder for ourselves.

Well I don't think there are over 20 passive roles for townies so it would be a bit funny. And I can say the same thing, if we're all going to just reveal our roles because someone asks then what's the point? Revealing at some point when it's beneficial for the town isn't bad, but asking for a mass reveal on day 3? I don't like it. But I'm just speaking for myself. If everyone else wants to throw their roles at your feet then fine.

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun i don't lie will give it later, theres a lot of people who havent shown yet today.
you're safe you're a supposedly Bp assuming you told the truth, otherwise you're still safe, whether you're a bomb or something else but i'm not Bp nor a mafia, that's way too convenient and beneficial to mafia who can frame therefore the most important possible remaining townies roles.

I did honestly trusted you, but you're being that persistent make me feel as if you're anxious about something, that sounds quite wrong, a BP is a cool and safe role Afaik, so why do you give me this impression ?

Am I anxious? Maybe. Had a great plan for this game but with everyone else not doing anything this is getting both boring and infuriating. So I‘m reconsidering all my options right now, which is where the anxious thing could be coming from.

 

[Demonspeed]

Also lol Jammin just now I read the bit "zasz could be trolling" but the barkeeper not appearing is absolutely impossible at this point. Isn't that double standard a bit too convenient?



Zasz should be ruled out of the discussion, there is no way he is lying. If anything, I rather it be you (who has been acting suspicious af all game and is affraid of talking about his role as if it was aids) and me.

You have been forced to claim Det because of Zasz and now for some reason you are sure he is telling the truth. I can reveal my role but I don't think it's the right time to do it. Lot of players are missing, plus there are the potential Masons etc. There is still plenty of time.

 

[GrySun]

Well I don't think there are over 20 passive roles for townies so it would be a bit funny. And I can say the same thing, if we're all going to just reveal our roles because someone asks then what's the point? Revealing at some point when it's beneficial for the town isn't bad, but asking for a mass reveal on day 3? I don't like it. But I'm just speaking for myself. If everyone else wants to throw their roles at your feet then fine.

The point is that the game becomes easier for us. It‘s possible to spot roles that should not exist or roles which there are too many of.
This atmosphere people are creating and upholding is one where mafia can easily just sit back and never claim a role until the game is over, with them never being questioned. Too many games were lost on something like that.
I‘m pretty sure Arjun would be like last game, nobody would ever lynch or suspect him, had we not asked for very early day 1 hints in which he made a mess of a claim.
But do what you want, I‘m done trying to get anything meaningful out of anyone here.

 

[gnut]

Well...this is a clusterfuck.

The worse case scenario was gry claiming BP and claiming his gift contained protection.
Id imagine all dets woulda tried checking him nite 1....sorry gry but this still doesnt sit well with me....
Now we have zasz claiming he checked a dead man and another det who he finds guilty instead of checking gry who claimed BP....why?
Not trying to side with hardy as far as if he's innocent....
Its just seems too weird.

 

[Hermit]

Am I anxious? Maybe. Had a great plan for this game but with everyone else not doing anything this is getting both boring and infuriating. So I‘m reconsidering all my options right now, which is where the anxious thing could be coming from.

I'm Sorry,this might be legit the funniest thing I've seen all day.
If you had a great plan why don't you just improvise?
You're a townie (Or so you claim), you do understand the need for townies to keep their roles hidden right? It gives us the advantage over Mafia. If Mafia don't know who is who then the townies with better roles have a chance.
Your style of play is very aggressive for a townie

 

[Erinyes]

well im reluctant to lynch a potential det too.



actually gry reminds me the gry i saw vs Niichan last game

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2017 ---

Here's your updated recap, please let me know if i forget to add something.

im deliberately keeping the hints of dead people, in case they're needed, could be useful.

• GrySun - (Reiner) - the role keeps him safe at night- claims bulletproof
  
• Dried Ambrosia - (Gunther) - active role
• MarmaladeSky - (Eld) - active role, can be quite useful, fits her personality
• Erinyes - (Keith) - 1st time got the role, light side of the force
  
• Holt - (Mikasa) - active role - ???? Killed on N1
  
• Reebi - (Nile) -> Docteur lynched on D1
  
• Vandred - (Jean) - 1st time with the role, doesn't consider it powerful but that people prolly don't like it Mason recruiter killed on N2
  
• gnut - (Marco) - 2nd time he gets this role
• Demonspeed - (Marlowe) -> has an active role
• Jammin - (Petra) - swore on his waifu he's a townie, weird role that seemingly fits his character in a way.
• Kato756 - (Connie) - fits his character
• Belserion - (Sasha) - passive role, dissapointed but might grow to like it
• SonOfDaws - (Ian) - passive role that suits his playstyle
• Hardy - (Eren) - night action role -Claims detective
  
• desin24 - (Bertolt) -> Detective killed on N1
  
• Zasz - (Hitch)- Define his role as a nosy one, It is an active night one, claims detective
  
• EmptySoul - (Mike) -> said she has a boring role with no night action
• James Rye - (Hange) -> said he's a townie, Night Action Doesn't really fit Hange's character, claims bodyguard
  
• DiMaria Yesta - (Ymir) - passive and night
• Emperor Spriggan - (Krista) - passive, only activates under certains circunstances
• Gryffindor - (Annie) - active, wasn't in the previous game
• Farfalla - (Armin) - has an active night role Santa claus Killed on N2
  
• Arjuna - (Rico) - can only vote during the day claims regular townie Mafia strongman lynched on D2
  
• MonkeyD-Dragon - (Oluo) - active night role (and some bs about some pretty weapon wtf)

Presents
D1- Grysun - Opened Got Bp
D2- Erin' - Opened it
D3-


Night actions claims
N1 :
- Zasz targetted Vandred got innocent
- J-Rye Targetted Emperor SPriggan results nobody targetted him)
- Hardy targetted Arjuna, got innocent.

N2 :
-Zasz targetted Hardy got Guilty
- Hardy targetted Demon got innocent.
- J Rye targetted Zasz

 

[Belserion]

The point is that the game becomes easier for us. It‘s possible to spot roles that should not exist or roles which there are too many of.
This atmosphere people are creating and upholding is one where mafia can easily just sit back and never claim a role until the game is over, with them never being questioned. Too many games were lost on something like that.
I‘m pretty sure Arjun would be like last game, nobody would ever lynch or suspect him, had we not asked for very early day 1 hints in which he made a mess of a claim.
But do what you want, I‘m done trying to get anything meaningful out of anyone here.

You have to understand my skepticism. This isn't the first time you've pretended to be townie trying to lead us to victory. What is the point of the role reveal? What are you trying to do? I certainly know you don't expect the mafia to come out and tell you they're Mafia. So it would still leave us in the position of figuring out who's lying. The mafia would know, so while we're trying to point out who is being truthful they will pick us off one by one in order of importance. Help me understand what you're trying to do.

 

[Demonspeed]

Well...this is a clusterfuck.

The worse case scenario was gry claiming BP and claiming his gift contained protection.
Id imagine all dets woulda tried checking him nite 1....sorry gry but this still doesnt sit well with me....
Now we have zasz claiming he checked a dead man and another det who he finds guilty instead of checking gry who claimed BP....why?
Not trying to side with hardy as far as if he's innocent....
Its just seems too weird.

Zasz is more trustworthy because he revealed that he targeted Van before his death.

 

[gnut]

@GrySun @Hardy
Just a question for 2 players who host....in a game this size would you put in a hider with a BP?
No im not hider...just curious x/

 

[GrySun]

I'm Sorry,this might be legit the funniest thing I've seen all day.
If you had a great plan why don't you just improvise?
You're a townie (Or so you claim), you do understand the need for townies to keep their roles hidden right? It gives us the advantage over Mafia. If Mafia don't know who is who then the townies with better roles have a chance.
Your style of play is very aggressive for a townie

Oh I‘m improvising, it‘s just much worse than the initial thing. But what can you do with everyone sticking to themselves.

Actually, no I don‘t understand that need. I understand it at the start, so the mafia has a harder time finding the detectives. But once all dets are either dead or revealed their roles I don‘t understand people laying low. Mafia already start the game with a huge advantage, one we can only even out by working together so our lynches hit the right targets. This just gives them even more of an advantage as it helps them keep themselves safe from us.

But hey, we can also hope whoever the 2 killing parties are that they kill each other while we don‘t do anything other than bandwagoning some people here and there for little reason. A fine plan indeed.

 

[Hardy]

@GrySun @Hardy
Just a question for 2 players who host....in a game this size would you put in a hider with a BP?
No im not hider...just curious x/

It's a combo that has been around for the longest time. I'd have it.

 

[gnut]

Zasz is more trustworthy because he revealed that he targeted Van before his death.

Maybe zasz poisoned van

 

[GrySun]

well im reluctant to lynch a potential det too.



actually gry reminds me the gry i saw vs Niichan last game

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2017 ---

Here's your updated recap, please let me know if i forget to add something.

im deliberately keeping the hints of dead people, in case they're needed, could be useful.

• GrySun - (Reiner) - the role keeps him safe at night- claims bulletproof
  
• Dried Ambrosia - (Gunther) - active role
• MarmaladeSky - (Eld) - active role, can be quite useful, fits her personality
• Erinyes - (Keith) - 1st time got the role, light side of the force
  
• Holt - (Mikasa) - active role - ???? Killed on N1
  
• Reebi - (Nile) -> Docteur lynched on D1
  
• Vandred - (Jean) - 1st time with the role, doesn't consider it powerful but that people prolly don't like it Mason recruiter killed on N2
  
• gnut - (Marco) - 2nd time he gets this role
• Demonspeed - (Marlowe) -> has an active role
• Jammin - (Petra) - swore on his waifu he's a townie, weird role that seemingly fits his character in a way.
• Kato756 - (Connie) - fits his character
• Belserion - (Sasha) - passive role, dissapointed but might grow to like it
• SonOfDaws - (Ian) - passive role that suits his playstyle
• Hardy - (Eren) - night action role -Claims detective
  
• desin24 - (Bertolt) -> Detective killed on N1
  
• Zasz - (Hitch)- Define his role as a nosy one, It is an active night one, claims detective
  
• EmptySoul - (Mike) -> said she has a boring role with no night action
• James Rye - (Hange) -> said he's a townie, Night Action Doesn't really fit Hange's character, claims bodyguard
  
• DiMaria Yesta - (Ymir) - passive and night
• Emperor Spriggan - (Krista) - passive, only activates under certains circunstances
• Gryffindor - (Annie) - active, wasn't in the previous game
• Farfalla - (Armin) - has an active night role Santa claus Killed on N2
  
• Arjuna - (Rico) - can only vote during the day claims regular townie Mafia strongman lynched on D2
  
• MonkeyD-Dragon - (Oluo) - active night role (and some bs about some pretty weapon wtf)

Presents
D1- Grysun - Opened Got Bp
D2- Erin' - Opened it
D3-


Night actions claims
N1 :
- Zasz targetted Vandred got innocent
- J-Rye Targetted Emperor SPriggan results nobody targetted him)
- Hardy targetted Arjuna, got innocent.

N2 :
-Zasz targetted Hardy got Guilty
- Hardy targetted Demon got innocent.

On that list I see people whose hints barely qualify as hints. Light side of the force? I know little about star wars. Fits his character? Influx of boring and passive roles?
Eh.

 

[Demonspeed]

Gry is acting like the actual Reiner .

 

[gnut]

It's a combo that has been around for the longest time. I'd have it.

I thought it was either or...thnx

 

[Erinyes]

Zasz is more trustworthy because he revealed that he targeted Van before his death.

True, but this can still be part of a mafia plan. Also he didnt give any results (recap #596) at first, means he can made it up afterwards, after Van dead. ( no pun intended )

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun @Hardy
Just a question for 2 players who host....in a game this size would you put in a hider with a BP?
No im not hider...just curious x/

Really depends on how many killing parties and other stuff. Certainly not impossible. Hell we had a game with 2 bulletproofs, not sure if that game also had a hider. Too hard to say while we don‘t know the majority of roles in the game.

 

[Demonspeed]

Maybe zasz poisoned van

You can't both poison and kill the same night IIRC. Two people died N1 too.

 

[SonOfDaws]

We can also let the mafia decide things for us. Right now, GrySun is the one that strikes me as the most suspicious so I watch to check his previous votes and, if it seems to confirm what I'm thinking, I want to vote him up. So, instead of confirming Zasz's very convenient claim with a lynch, we can leave it in the air for another night.

• If Zasz dies, then that means he was most likely a threat.
  
• If he doesn't die, then we get another investigation out of him next day phase and we can still lynch Hardy or his next investigation target.
• Hardy getting killed by anything other than the Janitor just serves as an extra kill and confirmation for us.
• If Hardy is killed by the Janitor on Night 3, then, while this could prolong the time needed to confirm Zasz's role, it gives us a better picture of the mafia(s) were up against. However, he's already the one that seems the most likely to die today anyways.
• Regardless, I seriously doubt Zasz is the only investigative role left in the game. The remaining ones can use their night actions to confirm Zasz's claim.