Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[yonkouproductions]

Look like its official. The tocs Japanese guy stop definitly write tocs.

Shame, I will miss his/her posts but I understand the pressure of delivering information to the masses like that.

 

[SharkBait]

So Gintama isn't ending?

After all those folks said it would. Shocking.

 

[Heiji]

Shame, I will miss his/her posts but I understand the pressure of delivering information to the masses like that.

You too have pressure i guess? Even its funny to see Viz re-tweet your tweet Xd

 

[Halloween]

After all those folks said it would. Shocking.

It was just two people on here saying it. Everyone else understood that Naruto was far, far more important, and didn't receive the cover for it's final chapter.

 

[razerxs]

Oricon Ranking Jan 22-28
24052 317459 Promised Neverland
17012 17012 One Piece LOG
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11537 515830 Promised Neverland 1
10783 486196 Promised Neverland 2
10226 375580 Promised Neverland 6
9874 445951 Promised Neverland 3
9483 404005 Promised Neverland 5
9290 426782 Promised Neverland 4
8629 107340 The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.

 

[101nemesis]

It was just two people on here saying it. Everyone else understood that Naruto was far, far more important, and didn't receive the cover for it's final chapter.

Eh. I'd pit Naruto and Gintama up there together with each other. Definitely not far far more important at all.

 

[De La Croissant]

How are you judging the writing when its barely started? Its just an introduction lol

And it's a poorly made introduction.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Eh. I'd pit Naruto and Gintama up there together with each other. Definitely not far far more important at all.

Well one if the fourth best selling Jump title of all time and the other probably wouldn't as last as long without the success of its anime.

 

[Nemesis]

Well one if the fourth best selling Jump title of all time and the other probably wouldn't as last as long without the success of its anime.

Well, the same could be said about Naruto. It could be another manga without the anime.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Did you see people making Gintama references in elementary/middle school? I didn't think so.

 

[WyldViolet]

Did you see people making Gintama references in elementary/middle school? I didn't think so.

Yes, because elementary schoolers are well known fans of tonally ambitious broad satire.
Gintama has always been a series held up by readers outside of Jump's primary demographic.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Well, the same could be said about Naruto. It could be another manga without the anime.

Not really because Naruto was a huge success even before the anime came. Gintama actually struggled to keep itself alive as anyone who followed the ToC for years can see that it was mostly a bottom dweller, the anime came and was a huge success to the point where it became more famous than the manga and despite numerous attempts to end it the series just kept pulling in the revenue and even the live action movie is getting a sequel.

 

[WyldViolet]

Not really because Naruto was a huge success even before the anime came. Gintama actually struggled to keep itself alive as anyone who followed the ToC for years can see that it was mostly a bottom dweller, the anime came and was a huge success to the point where it became more famous than the manga and despite numerous attempts to end it the series just kept pulling in the revenue and even the live action movie is getting a sequel.

So by that logic we could act like Kuroko isn't a big deal either?
Not to mention, Bleach preformed average to mediocre prior to its anime.

 

[Doughboy]

Cut the nonsense people. Gintama was last recorded at 51 million worldwide on 69 volumes. It's not even breathing on a mil a volume.

 

[xAsum0x]

So by that logic we could act like Kuroko isn't a big deal either?
Not to mention, Bleach preformed average to mediocre prior to its anime.

I mean the point still stands that Naruto and Gintama are leagues apart when it comes to sales and popularity

 

[ChocoBar9]

So by that logic we could act like Kuroko isn't a big deal either?

Kuroko isn't a big deal compared to other Jump sports manga let alone Naruto hell it only ever made a significant push in sales in its last three years compared to instant hits like Slam Dunk, Prince of Tennis and Captain Tsubasa. Its another series that owe its success to the anime.

Not to mention, Bleach preformed average to mediocre prior to its anime.

People don't put Bleach on any pedestal either so I'm not sure why you brought it up. Why people want to downplay Naruto's impact I have no clue but its very silly.

 

[TyVip]

It isn’t thar big of a deal who get a cover or not.

Cover = more works for Sorachi and we all know Gorilla sensei is lazy.

 

[Newkerzy]

Holy fuck.... Netflix just announced they're partnering with BONES, Production I.G. and Studio Wit. I always thought this was just a daydream of mine, but to think it would actually happen....

If rumors and speculations are true about Netflix trying to cut out the production committee and pumping a godawful amount of money into their Anime projects that Studios never thought would happen, then I can totally see Netflix going

Netflix: Hey, we want to distribute MHA on our platform too.
Wakana: And your asking price is?
Netflix: 5 billion Yen. And half of that will go to the AM vs AFO fight alone.
Wakana: *Jawdrops*

*Wakana and Kenji meets*
Kenji: So, how did the meeting go?
Wakana: *hands the cheque and agreement*
Kenji: *has exact same reaction*
Wakana: *takes out her strongest Sake* A toast, Kenji-san?
Kenji: Fuck, thanks *swigs down cup*

*Meeting with Yuta-pon*

Yuta-pon: You want to pay me how MUCH!!?
Kenji: Here, the big boss told me to share with you, you're gonna need it. *shares sake*

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...-with-production-i.g-bones-wit-studio/.127164

 

[101nemesis]

Wait. On what basis are you guys comparing Naruto and Gintama? Why are some of you bringing in quotes of what you said in school?

Naruto is a typical shounen action manga. Gintama, while goes into action, is known for how it defined comedy in shounen and WSJ. The impact it had in the culture is visible when you see how well it's anime, movies and live action does. WSJ acknowledges this and its why Gintama still gets constant covers and lead CPs despite having low ranks numerous times.

No one is downplaying Naruto and the impact it had in the western field or Japan. But some of you are clearly bringing up how as high-schoolers you were shouting Naruto quotes as some sort of proof it was more popular. Gintama cannot get as popular as Naruto in the west because its comedy is very related to Japanese culture and its not as flashy and obvious as the typical shounen action series are.

50 million for a comedy of just 69 volumes is something comedy series don't get. By your logic, Kochikame should not be considered big because it had 200 volumes but sales were ONLY at 157 million. So that makes it less than a million seller. And I clearly never saw anyone quoting things from Kochikame either in school. So does that make Naruto more popular? Going by your logic, it should.

Some seem to be seeing purely from sales perspective, which is a very narrow view, without taking other things into consideration. Naruto is big for what it brought to the shounen genre. Gintama is big for what it brought to the table as a comedy manga.

I'd go into more detail but I've got other things to do. I'm sure you all can do your own research.

Edit- If some of you think Kochikame is not bigger than Naruto, I wouldn't have words to say.

 

[cody]

Holy fuck.... Netflix just announced they're partnering with BONES, Production I.G. and Studio Wit. I always thought this was just a daydream of mine, but to think it would actually happen....

If rumors and speculations are true about Netflix trying to cut out the production committee and pumping a godawful amount of money into their Anime projects that Studios never thought would happen, then I can totally see Netflix going

Netflix: Hey, we want to distribute MHA on our platform too.
Wakana: And your asking price is?
Netflix: 5 billion Yen. And half of that will go to the AM vs AFO fight alone.
Wakana: *Jawdrops*

*Wakana and Kenji meets*
Kenji: So, how did the meeting go?
Wakana: *hands the cheque and agreement*
Kenji: *has exact same reaction*
Wakana: *takes out her strongest Sake* A toast, Kenji-san?
Kenji: Fuck, thanks *swigs down cup*

*Meeting with Yuta-pon*

Yuta-pon: You want to pay me how MUCH!!?
Kenji: Here, the big boss told me to share with you, you're gonna need it. *shares sake*

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...-with-production-i.g-bones-wit-studio/.127164

Looks like we have similar dreams. I hope good anime comes out of it. I doubt it will really have anything to do with WSJ.