Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[savethecat]

I kinda of want this conversation about MHA and Bones to end tbh

 

[Leoat12]

Aren't animation companies basically just contract workers? If true, then they don't really have much of a saying in their own job. They just do what they're paid to do.

I work in a developer company, which kind of has the same business logic, we are paid to do projects for other companies, but we just don't do what they say, we have a saying because we are the specialists after all, reject projects because of lack of personnel is also possible so...

 

[ChocoBar9]

Guys, at this point I'm not quite sure what we are arguing about.

Also we seem to think that disc sales = profitability here, and I don't think it's accurate.

Disc is just one stream of revenue. Is it the biggest one? Maybe, I really don't know, and I don't think any outsiders can say for sure here.

We have no idea how much a series makes in terms of merch, streaming license, etc. We also have zero idea about the total costs of producing an anime (production and marketing cost, etc.).

There is a chance that AoT Season 2 is more profitable than the first season, despite the massive drop in sales. Season 2 might have less overheads, less marketing cost, more merch and streaming revenue. Do I think that this is highly likely? Not particularly, but we can never know for sure, and that's the key point here. Disc sales can be a pretty good indication of how popular an anime series is, but it doesn't necessarily equate to a series' profitability, especially in massive franchises with numerous revenue streams like AoT, SAO or most Jump's properties.

The problem with using streams as a metric is that we just don't know how much value it has for anime since the bulk of all streaming revenue comes from overseas so what they get is usually a fraction of what is made with disc sales its also a fairly recent trend that sees Japan actually relishing streaming as a major profitable platform that we've seen reports of shows making a killing off streaming service in China enough to make even and produce more content (case in point AssClass only got a second season because it was a big hit on the biggest Chinese streaming platforms when the first season aires which offset its poor disc sales). So while AoT Season 2 had a massive drop from the first (though unlike the first season it was released on two expensive boxsets as oppose to singles) we don't know just how ridiculously profitable it was on streaming since it was on the top of every popular streaming platform but the decease in overall activity between the first and second seasons were noticiable and if anycase does it really matter? We're getting a 3rd season this year anyways. Jump properties never have good disc sales with the exception of a very few examples so all its focus primarily on manga and merchandise sales. I should note that despite the drop in SAO S2 it still sold over 20k on average which is great for any show considering it rarely happens so the franchise is still profitable.

Is Bones on MHA's committee? I can't seem to find out any information re this.

Yes but unless they're directly distributing the title studios are usually listed near the bottom of the committee list but it goes as follows

Shuiesha
My Hero Academia Production Committee
Toho Pictures
Takara Tomy
BANDAI NAMCO
BONES
Sony Music

There's probably a few I'm missing but that's usually the gist of it.

 

[iceemperor]

Yes but unless they're directly distributing the title studios are usually listed near the bottom of the committee list but it goes as follows

Shuiesha
My Hero Academia Production Committee
Toho Pictures
Takara Tomy
BANDAI NAMCO
BONES
Sony Music

There's probably a few I'm missing but that's usually the gist of it.

This really isn't the place for this but that's wrong. The committee is from the top:
Toho
Yomiuri TV
Shueisha
Bones
Dentsu
Sony music
Movic

Takara Tomy and Bandai did individual sponsership of episodes alongside companies like McDonalds and Nissay, etc.

 

[ChocoBar9]

^Thanks iceemperor. Knew I forgot Dentsu and Movic.

 

[Leoat12]

Just to finish the topic, to be honest, this entire argument about Attack on Titan didn't add up to me in any moment because I knew all along it would be a free fall from the first season like 2 years in advance when I dropped the manga and tagged it as complete trash. XD

 

[Nemesis]

Guys, at this point I'm not quite sure what we are arguing about.

Also we seem to think that disc sales = profitability here, and I don't think it's accurate.

Disc is just one stream of revenue. Is it the biggest one? Maybe, I really don't know, and I don't think any outsiders can say for sure here.

We have no idea how much a series makes in terms of merch, streaming license, etc. We also have zero idea about the total costs of producing an anime (production and marketing cost, etc.).

There is a chance that AoT Season 2 is more profitable than the first season, despite the massive drop in sales. Season 2 might have less overheads, less marketing cost, more merch and streaming revenue. Do I think that this is highly likely? Not particularly, but we can never know for sure, and that's the key point here. Disc sales can be a pretty good indication of how popular an anime series is, but it doesn't necessarily equate to a series' profitability, especially in massive franchises with numerous revenue streams like AoT, SAO or most Jump's properties.


Is Bones on MHA's committee? I can't seem to find out any information re this.

I don't know but I can search the committee for you.

Edit: Oh, people already found. lol Didn't see before.

 

[TyVip]

There is a legend that if you say fill the anime talk for one whole page the ghost of jagman will show up.

So place your bet on Act Age chapter 1 and Bozebeat chapter 2 'placement'?

 

[xAsum0x]

Bozebeats bottom 5, Act Age middle of the pack

 

[OfficialHxH]

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 2, 2018, Original Post Date: Mar 2, 2018 ---

 

[Heiji]

Mikio Itou (old assistant of Eiichirô Oda, Hiroyuki Takei) will start new serie monday. Will be about young author want became mangaka (and author will talk about our experience when he was assistant).
http://konomanga.jp/guide/136890-2

 

[Siul]

Does the Jump preview have some color page announcement for HxH 20th birthday?

 

[Heiji]

Does the Jump preview have some color page announcement for HxH 20th birthday?

No

 

[Siul]

No

Whoa ... It's a bit sad that the series doesn't have any more special than the interview to celebrate the 20th birthday
But it's not a surprise given the circumstances.

 

[Heiji]

Whoa ... It's a bit sad that the series doesn't have any more special than the interview to celebrate the 20th birthday
But it's not a surprise given the circumstances.

This interview its for 50th anniversary of Shônen Jump not 20th anniversary of Hxh.

 

[Siul]

This interview its for 50th anniversary of Shônen Jump not 20th anniversary of Hxh.

REALLY?
So neither the magazine nor the togashi give a shit about this date. The thruth to be said I must be the only person in the world that was waiting sf

 

[Doughboy]

At this point the only battle manga you can comfortablely look forward to is Kishi's new series. It'll save us from this despair. Dr. Stone's STONE WARS arc is simply not going to be the answer to quiet the masses.

 

[Nemesis]

I really want the "Gyaru series" to be successful. Love the artstyle and designs (but I loved the ones from Mononofu and Kurogane too so I'm a bit biased)

 

[savethecat]

Jujutsu Kaisen art reminds me of a fusion between MHA and Haikyuu art. I rather like it. But who knows if the series itself will be decent.


Looks like next weeks series is a detective series

 

[Mammo]

new serialization round, so I should do my tradition

Gege Akutami (Jujutsu Kaisen) favorite manga: Taizou Mote King Saga

Haruto Ikezawa (Noah's Notes) favorite manga: One Piece, Slam Dunk

Kentarō Hidano (Ziga artist, couldn't find anything about the writer) favorite manga: Nurarihyon no Mago