Games Mafia Game 63 - Kuroko no Basket - END GAME

[Demonspeed]

Lol you're not satisfied with only the roles and numbers?
I mean you're going to learn next day who got poisoned anyway, can't you just wait? You can't save him (or her? hehe) anymore anyway.

That's why I want to know that. Could be useful today depending on the player's role.

 

[Asako]

Can't a doc save the one that got poisoned ?

 

[Takuan]

Alright, guys. You won't like what i'm about to say :/ but please, i told you numbers and roles. That's already a lot. I don't think i'll tell you guys more.
I'm sorry, you might think i'm a traitor or something like this, keeping info for myself instead of helping town win the game. But in my mind it's just like revealing every role day 1, how is the game interesting if that happens?
I gave you some info, do your best with it. I hope you guys win. But i won't tell more, i'm sorry.

 

[Asako]

@Crescent_jinxgrace you're not every active in the game, I wonder why.




@Takuan there was no mafia boss and you said he told you there three mafia and you mentioned three roles that mean panda was probably lying to you.

 

[Demonspeed]

Can't a doc save the one that got poisoned ?

Only if he targeted him the night it happened. It's impossible now.

 

[Takuan]

@Takuan there was no mafia boss and you said he told you there three mafia and you mentioned three roles that mean panda was probably lying to you.

oh a mafia boss is mandatory in every mafia team? I didn't know that. Well he didn't tell me about any boss, so if that's the case he might have lied to me yeah.

 

[Demonspeed]

No, Mafia Bosses are not mandatory. I doubt Panda lied.

 

[Asako]

I though mafia boss are mandatory...

 

[Demonspeed]

Vote kill Farfalla.

She was online and she not posting in this thread despite these reveals doesn't make me think she is Townie.

 

[Asako]

Vote kill Farfalla.

She was online and she not posting in this thread despite these reveals doesn't make me think she is Townie.

She's working on the WWWR game and posting all the quotes so that's probably why, still she took her time...

 

[Demonspeed]

Alright, guys. You won't like what i'm about to say :/ but please, i told you numbers and roles. That's already a lot. I don't think i'll tell you guys more.
I'm sorry, you might think i'm a traitor or something like this, keeping info for myself instead of helping town win the game. But in my mind it's just like revealing every role day 1, how is the game interesting if that happens?
I gave you some info, do your best with it. I hope you guys win. But i won't tell more, i'm sorry.

It's fine Jesus . I would have probably done the same thing.

 

[Farfalla]

votekill farfalla seeing how panda abstained from voting either greg or maru yday made me a bit confused but kinda makes sense. i am 100% certain she is the boss

Yeah, yet Panda said he wouldn't vote for Greg as well, but sure! Twist things as you will.

Okay, so one of the alleged Spys is dead (that’s the only role he could be strongly hinting at, right? Saying he could confirm active/passive roles). Doesn’t give us any more clarity on the Vandred/Farfalla claims but I’m leaning strongly toward Farf not being legit.

'Cause I didn't see his hints as a Spy claim, and I can say that clearly Vandred didn't see it like that as well or he'd totally have pulled a gun against me or Panda? Also, it doesn't make sense that a teammate would claim the same as me after I was the one pressuring him. But I didn't try to guess what his hint meant yday, was under stress with the two trolls on me and and many things to do.

She even said she lied last phase

Lied about..?

Anyway... Might as well reveal myself. I am Panda's lover

Haha! I said that there was something off about you! You were indeed waiting to receive some guidance XD~
At least now you can play as full town...

Well then maybe it will work like in my first game, you did get most mafia that time.
Votekill farfalla

Haha, you voted for me solely on his word, without even asking what is he talking about on that lie thing?
You were the single one openly defending me yday and today you have an enlightened moment recalling your past game and go with him, even though yday he begged people to do the same and you protected me? You go with the wind, Asako XD Were you instructed to go with the easiest target for a bandwagon cause you're the second most suspicious one after me? Looks like before you had Vand, now you have another type of buddy to look after you... Well you can have this one easy with Misho and Magi pulling it, Lambu will brainlessly follow it as well. You'll be next though, or so I trully hope, 'cause I trust someone like Orgz will see you're just like Takuan: following leads and clearly going with the wind.

Btw, while Misho plays "flash bandwagon" with me, you "hasty but honest townies" are ignoring something: what happens when Takuan comes back as a Jesus AND a Lover? He's gonna need the Threesome to join him otherwise he dies again, no? So if there's a Threesome, just guess Takuan's name alrdy, otherwise we'll have 2 dead townies out of derpiness.
Lovers can win with their primary teams (townies), just checked the role. So that means we'll have two townies that can communicate at night as well, as if they're masons. Sounds like a cool small gimmick to have.

I'll be off for like 8h on a training. Feel free to lynch me. There's nothing for me to defend myself from now - aside from trying to survive which was obvious - and that didn't stop people to vote for me already - even miss "second most suspicious one", and how fast she changed her mind doesn't surprise me at all Hopefully you guys lynch her next.

 

[Takuan]

Haha! I said that there was something off about you! You were indeed waiting to receive some guidance XD~
At least now you can play as full town...

Btw, while Misho plays "flash bandwagon" with me, you "hasty but honest townies" are ignoring something: what happens when Takuan comes back as a Jesus AND a Lover? He's gonna need the Threesome to join him otherwise he dies again, no? So if there's a Threesome, just guess Takuan's name alrdy, otherwise we'll have 2 dead townies out of derpiness.
Lovers can win with their primary teams (townies), just checked the role. So that means we'll have two townies that can communicate at night as well, as if they're masons. Sounds like a cool small gimmick to have.

I won't come back though, i died for good.

There was nothing off about me, i wasn't waiting for guidance from panda especially, but from everyone. As i said, in day 1 or in any day when i don't have a clue, i'll follow the crowd and i see no shame in this.
Don't be like that lol

 

[Farfalla]

Vote kill Farfalla.

She was online and she not posting in this thread despite these reveals doesn't make me think she is Townie.

........ altho the first thing I did was reading this post with around 50 new ones and post a long as reply even though I'm late and have to post in another game as well XD~
Just kill me alrdy, it doesn't matter.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 17, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 17, 2018 ---

I won't come back though, i died for good.

What? Why?
I recall Gry mentioned a combo for Lovers. The points was to make Lovers stronger, and Jesus was a townie boost for them.
You got the info that you won't come back as Jesus from him? o.O

 

[Asako]

Yeah, yet Panda said he wouldn't vote for Greg as well, but sure! Twist things as you will.

'Cause I didn't see his hints as a Spy claim, and I can say that clearly Vandred didn't see it like that as well or he'd totally have pulled a gun against me or Panda? Also, it doesn't make sense that a teammate would claim the same as me after I was the one pressuring him. But I didn't try to guess what his hint meant yday, was under stress with the two trolls on me and and many things to do.

Lied about..?

Haha! I said that there was something off about you! You were indeed waiting to receive some guidance XD~
At least now you can play as full town...


Haha, you voted for me solely on his word, without even asking what is he talking about on that lie thing?
You were the single one openly defending me yday and today you have an enlightened moment recalling your past game and go with him, even though yday he begged people to do the same and you protected me? You go with the wind, Asako XD Were you instructed to go with the easiest target for a bandwagon cause you're the second most suspicious one after me? Looks like before you had Vand, now you have another type of buddy to look after you... Well you can have this one easy with Misho and Magi pulling it, Lambu will brainlessly follow it as well. You'll be next though, or so I trully hope, 'cause I trust someone like Orgz will see you're just like Takuan: following leads and clearly going with the wind.

Btw, while Misho plays "flash bandwagon" with me, you "hasty but honest townies" are ignoring something: what happens when Takuan comes back as a Jesus AND a Lover? He's gonna need the Threesome to join him otherwise he dies again, no? So if there's a Threesome, just guess Takuan's name alrdy, otherwise we'll have 2 dead townies out of derpiness.
Lovers can win with their primary teams (townies), just checked the role. So that means we'll have two townies that can communicate at night as well, as if they're masons. Sounds like a cool small gimmick to have.

I'll be off for like 8h on a training. Feel free to lynch me. There's nothing for me to defend myself from now - aside from trying to survive which was obvious - and that didn't stop people to vote for me already - even miss "second most suspicious one", and how fast she changed her mind doesn't surprise me at all Hopefully you guys lynch her next.

Then if you're really a spy who did you target and what did you get, I'm still defend you but not as much as yesterday not because of the suspension I'm getting, I don't really care about that but because of the lie he mention and what magi said of the play of mafia.
I'm 50/50 on you now.

 

[Takuan]

What? Why?
I recall Gry mentioned a combo for Lovers. The points was to make Lovers stronger, and Jesus was a townie boost for them.
You got the info that you won't come back as Jesus from him? o.O

jesus makes lovers stronger only if i'm the one dieing. In that case i don't die for real, since i'm Jesus, so my lover don't commit suicide.
But here Panda died, so i'll commit suicide like i would normally. Being Jesus doesn't save me from it.

 

[Farfalla]

Then if you're really a spy who did you target and what did you get, I'm still defend you but not as much as yesterday not because of the suspension I'm getting, I don't really care about that but because of the lie he mention and what magi said of the play of mafia.
I'm 50/50 on you now.

Cause sharing my action will be the nail in my coffin: I targeted Van, cause paranoia, to be able to feel sure (wouldn't waste it on Taku that claimed to be passive and would prolly not be used as mafia if that was the case since I was on him...), and got block.
Now proceed with the lynching o/

jesus makes lovers stronger only if i'm the one dieing. In that case i don't die for real, since i'm Jesus, so my lover don't commit suicide.
But here Panda died, so i'll commit suicide like i would normally. Being Jesus doesn't save me from it.

I doubt that? Gry plays by the rules, Jesus role says he comes back whenever he dies, there are no conditions for that.
@GrySun is that true?

 

[GrySun]

If a Jesus Lover died from the Lover effect he would be dead for good and not come back. The why should be more than obvious.

 

[Farfalla]

I really gotta finish my post for WWWR and leave for my training =-= I won't risk getting late, so feel free to spam non sense about me during the time I can't reply. Getting blocked was kinda expected, but knowing about an Escort in the game now makes me look at this tryhard bangwagon as something even more convoluted...

If any one decides to be resonable and work with the time they have in a Day phase, instead of rushing the votes, I'll be back later to participate...

Also (a scenario based on claims): 3 mafia, 2 spies, 1 possible doctor (insane), 1 jesus, 1 hider, 2 people claiming passive... that leaves 3 spots for a possible whore or detectives. The Escort is a sure thing among those 3 mafias, since I don't see why Takuan would lie about this, so I'll insist I don't get why a Spy is a must go, it doesn't even look like we have 2 dets.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 17, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 17, 2018 ---

If a Jesus Lover died from the Lover effect he would be dead for good and not come back. The why should be more than obvious.

• Jesus (Townie): Whenever he dies, he comes back to life 2 day phases after his death (for example, if he dies in night 1 he comes back in day phase 3. If he dies in day phase 2, he comes back in day phase 4). He dies as Townie. The host will announce Jesus' revival when the day phase starts. (GAME 31)

• Lovers (Third Party): The Lovers are secondary roles, that start with one from Town's alignment and one from the Mafia. If only one of them remains, he commits suicide on the following night. They can win with either their own side or the Third Party side. They can talk in private at each Night phase (GAME 37)

I see nothing obvious here but sure. He'll commit suicide = dying. Then Jesus should come back whenever he dies, is it's written in his role. His primary role is still Jesus.

 

[Purity of Magi]

About the Jesus - lover combo things, that's what I also thought that he woul come back regardless since it's his primary role. It made me kinda confused when Takuan said he would be dead for good even thought he has Jesus as role, as he claimed to say.