The issue that causes me strangeness is, why do they focus on attacking only FT if there are double and triple Ecchi sleeves of the same genre? (For me to use the term Fanservice encompasses everything that attracts the fan and not just the ecchi)
I really do not think that ruined the plot, I just feel that the author wanted to smooth events because he did not want the plot to be dark, but to give a picaresque touch, authors like Trinity Seven use that resource too, and it does not take away the taste to the anime and Manga, let's not talk about works like UQ Holder where the girls are naked almost all the time and it is rather strange that they finish a combat with clothes.
There are certain scenes that are supposed to be emotional etc, but with an excessive fanservice, it does not give a good feeling and I can not take the scene seriously. Like I usually ignore the fansercie, but when the fanservice is poorly used and excessively, it ends up being uncomfortable and certain scenes get shallow.
And the guys have a lot of fanservice, but the girls just took more.
Like Lucy is an incredible character, very strong, with a great development, but it ends up overshadowing her to other people and they just see her like that, and some people call her a bit*** because of that, and I'm like "wtf?".
Gray is similar, but no one complains about him, because you know.
No character is perfect, they will always have some typos or something.
I usually try to see the good sides of a character liking it or not.
(my English is limited, so sometimes I can not express myself how I would like)
There are certain scenes that are supposed to be emotional etc, but with an excessive fanservice, it does not give a good feeling and I can not take the scene seriously. Like I usually ignore the fansercie, but when the fanservice is poorly used and excessively, it ends up being uncomfortable and certain scenes get shallow.
In this aspect I think it is more a question of how it focuses, just remember that an author places the scenes and passes them to his editor which indicates the changes that are required for his target audience, so I think in that part We could validate it with the thoughts of the Japanese, among whom they do not really dislike
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Precisely being imperfect is what gives them that beauty, for me, the perfect or too deified characters are boring, because you do not feel that level of empathy, with someone imperfect who suffers, who have accidents, whether they are crappy or heavy, You can feel a lot of empathy.
In this aspect I think it is more a question of how it focuses, just remember that an author places the scenes and passes them to his editor which indicates the changes that are required for his target audience, so I think in that part We could validate it with the thoughts of the Japanese, among whom they do not really dislike
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Yep, but now make them understand that without being accused of being misogynist or machist or something worse just for having a different opinión.
FT gives a lot of space for women and they are very strong, I do not usually feel that approximation with the female characters in other series, as I feel in ft, even if they don' t have so much fanservice(like bnha). But I wanted to see women in the shounen being strong and having the same spaces as the boys without being so sexualized (not generalizing)
Precisely being imperfect is what gives them that beauty, for me, the perfect or too deified characters are boring, because you do not feel that level of empathy, with someone imperfect who suffers, who have accidents, whether they are crappy or heavy, You can feel a lot of empathy.
Can you tell me about the part that Shiki sees Rebecca naked?
I hate ecchi/fanservice. I just want to know how Mashima did it. Does she appear full naked? o.o
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The point is: the autor treats his female like a peace of meat. He just cannot show a good woman with a good fight without show her boobs, her ass, her curves in sexy magazine poses every time that the women get spotlight and Lucy is the character that almost suffer it.
I hate ecchi because I'm pro feminist and I know that I woman doesn't need to be sould as a ''piece of meat'' to be a good character or person. The ecchi/fanservice in FT series was too much, it was really annoying, the angles to show the woman bodies was forced and grotesque and it often ruined the girls fight.
I hate how the west has become so freaking negative towards men enjoying attractive womens bodys.
Like everything about men enjoying women in sexual ways has become wrong, offensive, inappropriate, creepy, weird, childish, immature and unnecessary nowadays.
You used to see all the sexual stuff you see in Japanese media all the time in western media too in the 70s, 80s and 90s and back then American and European media very often did way bigger sexual stuff than what you usually see on animes and mangas.
The difference is that people in the west where brainwashed by political correctness, feminism and social justice culture into thinking that men enjoying attractive women with hot bodys is a bad thing that we should feel ashamed about and Japan has remained the same and has not been brainwashed yet.
In the old days it was perfectly fine and it was considered a normal and natural thing for men to want to look at hot womens naked bodys and for men to wanna have sex with those women and it still is a normal and natural thing in Japan and in most countries outside the west but now in the west people pretend that only a small minority of creepy and disgusting perverts are like that.
It says that you are a male well in the 70s, 80s and 90s if a man would would complain about something showing a hot women naked and talk about it like such a negative thing like you are doing you would be considered a huge weirdo and its still like that outside the west.
Like my dad and his family are from Turkey and they often point at women and talk about how hot there bodys are and when i got embarrassed when i was younger and told them to stop they thought i was weird and suspected that i was gay for a long time.
To them talking about attractive women out in the open lik that is completely normal but in Sweden where i live it sure is not nowadays.
In the old days the only people that you would ever see complaining about stuff like this where the small feminist groups that existed back then but in those days most people did not agree with those groups at all and did not take them seriously.
The reason why Hiro Mashima and most manga and anime creators uses the female characters in there series as nice and enjoyable sexual eye candy is because both them and the male audience in Japan loves it and wants to see those characters bodys and to see them in sexual situations and people that created comics, movies, TV shows, music and other stuff here in the west did exactly the same thing all the time in the old days.
Here people dont want to admit it nowadays but we like characters, celebritys and people in general way more if we find them sexually attractive and if we get to see them sexualized and used as nice eye candy like that.
And its not only in the media there is a huge bunch of sexual stuff that used to be perfectly fine and no big deal and considered a normal and natural thing in our society that has now become wrong, offensive, inappropriate, unnecessary and creepy because of all the negativity you see all the time nowadays for men enjoying women in sexual ways.
Still normal and fine in Japanese society and in other non western countries.
They use men and male characters as sexual eye candy and does sexual stuff to men all the time in both Japanese and western media but because nobody ever complains about it most people dont notice or think about it.
Like here in the west they use attractive men as eye candy and does sexual stuff to male characters all the time but they almost never do it to female characters anymore.
The people that make media here in the west knows that if they do sexual stuff to men everybody is going to be fine with it and nobody is going to react in a negative way to it but if they would do the same thing to women everybody will hate it and complain about it and accuse the creators to be filthy perverts.
Like when there is sexual stuff with male characters in these animes and mangas people often openly show that they like and enjoy it but when they do the exact same thing to female characters people talk like they hate it and dont want to see it.
Most of the people that complain about female fanservice probably actually like and enjoy it but feel like they must pretend that they are against it because they are scared to be seen as bad people.
Most men that complain about sexualizing women in the media in general probably actually like it but must pretend that they hate it because of fear of being seen as a pervert.
In the old days men could openly show that they loved to see female characters be sexualized and used as nice eye candy and it was a natural and normal thing back then but now they must pretend that they are against it because thats what you are expected to do now.
You seriously never saw any males be negative about fanservice the way males are now in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Also here in the west nowadays we have a stereotype that if a female character is sexualized and got a hot body and is used for sexual eye candy like that then that means its the only thing shes about but in Japan a female character can have a hot body and be used as nice eye candy for the male audience and be a fun, interesting and strong character at the same time.
You used to see female characters like that all the time in western media too in the old days before that annoying stereotype was created.
Theres also a stereotype that if a series got lots of fanservice and sexual stuff in general then the story, the characters and everything else about it must suck.
Both in Japanese media and in old western media things focus on hot attractive women but got good storys, characters, action, comedy and other things all the time.
Fanservice and other sexual stuff does not change or affect the story or the characters or the other stuff in any negative way at all.
Its just supposed to be a very nice bonus.
people need to take a chill pill its Mashima so we gona get fanservice so guy's get over it or just stop reading bc its just stupid seeing alot of u just shiting on the manga if you don't like it just drop it you won't die and leave us alone were loving it soo when you leave a bad comment you just take time of your life to hate on something you hate that's makes you look stupid sorry for my english
The last chapter's raw said that the planet's name was "River" while Crunchyroll called it "Norma", but according to what I could scrounge from the Korean scan, "Norma" is now the name of the planet. Could the name have been changed in the Japanese version and the English translators were given a heads up? Or are the Korean translators going by the English translation for some reason?
The only reason why i hope Edens Zero wont have as much fanservice as Fairy Tail is so there wont be as much annoying complaining about it and people using it to hate on the series like people did with Fairy Tail.
Anyway im already more looking forward to next weeks chapter than this chapter because im interested to learn about the blond guy and i want to know what happened to the old doctor and hopefully see him.
And i wonder if Edens Zero is going to be like the One Piece of this series.
Like the big main goal that the characters are going to be searching for for most of the story.
verily
