Thanks
My thoughts on your claims:@Hardy I think it's quite telling how you instantly jumped meI wasn't in any rush to suspect you as you could've still been town, but this changes my mind a little.
You see, this is a bit of a depressing situation. Not sure if you were there in the dead pad when I talked with others about Traitor reveals, but a Traitor revealing his list, if it's a legit list, was what I called game ruining. And now I'm in that situation myself here.
Some infos I will share: Unlike James(and maybe Kato?) I don't have one name, but three. I still don't know whether my list is legit or not, but both could be possible considering the role I have. If I'm a real Traitor then it's an interesting combo, if I'm naive then it's a massive troll from the hosts. I tried not to let myself be affected too much by it on Day 1, but I did try calling out a bit to two out of my list, while largely ignoring the third. Meanwhile playing the role I have until one of them dies and I know if I'm legit.
So not sure about revealing anything... Revealing them could be a very shitty thing to do. It's possible I also lack names and it isn't a full team, but if it is the full team then I've ruined their game with this, they'll get lynched in the next days or nightkilled while giving a huge advantage to the other team.
Continuing backreading..
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Found this weird too, not just because of my list but because it's not really covered by the rules. So I think panda is disregarding rules, again..
Who hinted doc?
Popular either gets you persecuted for instance you always mafia meme
Doc? Who?
I'll need to get home and look at the notes. At least I perceived it as a statement from someone with a protective role.
Being naive traitor doesn't automatically mean the names on your lists must be non-mafia since the names are random...and people coming out (assuming the real traitor is among them) need only to lie about their accomplice to pass off. Although I know this point was made at an earlier point
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Gry lay it all out in the open for us. Atm, there's is no better lynch than you. You mentioned potentially stalling your death (since it's supposedly low priority) in favor of killing a mafia. That's all well and good but there's none standing out atm. Also, there's quite too much stacked against you. First there's the fact that only you have 3 names as opposed to the other claims of 1. Now anyone will probably claim one. This exception is kinda too significant to ignore. Why would hosts give you 3 random names just because? Certainly some of the other claimed traitors are naive..and everyone else has 1. So your case is special. 2 things, either naive or real traitor. You've said Farf is one person on your list. Farf strongly claims she isn't mafia and tells you to reveal the others on your list. You've gotten the go ahead from her, why not let it out? I don't get the point really. Added with James' result on you, you're either a naive traitor with an inexplicable different trend from all other naive traitors or mafia. As it stands, the latter seems more likely.
I'm not giving any more right now
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Because I think Hardy is lying, so I'd have to be naive. And because I'm trusting you're town.
No. It's a lot easier a claim for people who think they're real traitors and have more names like me. If hardy isn't mafia he surely has more names too, or rather has had. He probably got recruited.
No, it's a shitty situation to be in. You can't just drop it and urge me not to say it, else you'd be confirming yourself as mafia and me as a real Traitor. So even if you're really mafia you'd have to keep doing what a townie would, ask me to share it and hope I don't. At least I think you would.
Have been wondering the same thing about you. Role not important, not a traitor in this game system, and panicking ever since James came with your result. But keep struggling, but people really should see past that
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That post you're quoting was to hardy, not to Farf. It's his mafia that profits from me potentially showing her's.
It's likely, but I am still unrecruited, if I even can be recruited. There would be absolutely no reason for me to still come out as a Traitor if it already served it's purpose. The most likely people who have been recruited during N0 and/or N1 are the ones claiming to either have dead people as their name, or those that "are not Traitor".
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In such a system I imagine they're used like Sleepers. Which would make no sense, but then again Panda is known for taking huge liberties with written rules... I don't like it.
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Guilt. Even if I'm a real Traitor and not naive, Farfs teammates remain unknown and still have a shot to win this. If I'm really sane traitor I would feel awful about ruining their chances.
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I'm town uncle, ffs
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I answered his post telling him it's impossible to be a strat. But he may be one of the people in the Janitor's mafia trying to hide that they recruited someone. Particularly hardy.ofc gry is one of them i would...there are a few good players i would try to kill if i had a free nite like that.
I mean no one had anything to go on as far as risking ones life to protect.
You dont agree that the janitor was used....?
I mean come on...wheres @Holt
He brought this up and gry did his best to make like it was some kind of strategy...
What fucking strategy you need when you have a free nite to claim a role...and worse case scenario in this game....gain a member
It's ok Gry, just point in the doll where the mean mafia touched you.I'm town uncle, ffs
I could come clean, but it's really not a role I'd want to claim...Plus grys reluctancy to reveal his role if it isnt a strong one.
Usually in a game if a detective is out and he believes them....he basically demands others to reveal saying "well detective is out how important can yours be?"
. I don't have time to backread anything. Can someone explain why Hardy and GrySun have two votes?
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I noticed it too while backreading during our hiatus. If we mean the same person that is. Would rather keep him hidden so best not say it.
You have two you wont share but me revealing i have 1 thats dead...now im scum xDIt's likely, but I am still unrecruited, if I even can be recruited. There would be absolutely no reason for me to still come out as a Traitor if it already served it's purpose. The most likely people who have been recruited during N0 and/or N1 are the ones claiming to either have dead people as their name, or those that "are not Traitor".
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In such a system I imagine they're used like Sleepers. Which would make no sense, but then again Panda is known for taking huge liberties with written rules... I don't like it.
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Guilt. Even if I'm a real Traitor and not naive, Farfs teammates remain unknown and still have a shot to win this. If I'm really sane traitor I would feel awful about ruining their chances.
I can hope I'm naive and tell you the other names, but if I really end up screwing over a whole team... idk james. Would you do it if you were in this position?
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I'm town uncle, ffs
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I answered his post telling him it's impossible to be a strat. But he may be one of the people in the Janitor's mafia trying to hide that they recruited someone. Particularly hardy.
Traffic jam killed me
Would be repeating myself, you'll find answers to those questions in of my previous ~3 posts to people asking the same. I don't know why they gave me 3, but they did. You'd really believe Hardy here who's making it as simple for himself as possible?
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No you did. Why are you lying about it now? Forgot the exact wording, but you said something about revealing it doesn't change anything for town. Would need to find the exact post, but you said it.
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Just said it was convenient. You said it among the first few so I trust you. The ones that came after you though... especially the ones that are not traitors. There have to be mafia among those for sure.You have two you wont share but me revealing i have 1 thats dead...now im scum xD
Well tomorrow will say different.but if you in a hurry....can always lynch me.
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Well, for that they would have to also believe I'm mafia, if they fear that by having 3 names instead of 1 that makes them real traitors... I think so far that's not how people feel about me, even if I'm not someone solid to be trusted. So it still looks unlikely to me that every single one with 3 names would feel like that.
No, Gry, I really don't care... and if you said that until you'd get recruited you'd play like a townie, you shouldn't be caring either about what I could possibly be wishing deep inside... I could even promise you I'm not lying about saying you can share your list 'cause it's false, you have my word... You really have no reason to retain it.
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Then make us maaaaad \@.@/ You're being Kato, the second ç.ç everybody is asking you the same thing at this point lmao.