Discussion NNT versus thread

[OtakuFreak]

You lied when you said the Demon King himself said he was surprised Meli's OG magic could hakai, that was never said. You're so delusional and stupid you've fooled yourself.
If the Demon King said that post the scan, I'm not replying if I don't see a scan or link posted.

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Assault mode Meliodas buries her. Liz isn't above any AA in combat.

She's just as powerful as Ludoshel, so yes Assault Meliodas (142k) can't do fuck

 

[sobreno]

She's just as powerful as Ludoshel, so yes Assault Meliodas (142k) can't do fuck

Nope, she aren't lmao, nice wank.

She has zero feat nor grace to prove that, and Mel is far above Ludo that it isn't funny, he trashed Zeldoris who trashed him and made Mael run away with his prine 2nd Demon Mark.

Nice try at picking a no awakened AM Mel who was far from his prime. TC 2nd Mark Mel is far above that version of Mel, even his Darkness shit on him lol.
Yeah, his base is enough to destroy her, she can't literally do anything against him lol.

Magic attack? FC nope that.
Physical attack? How cute lmao.
Speed? Mel blitz her that it isn't funny.

No Goddess can do shit to Mel at all. Too strong and hax for them.

Literally zero way, complete mismatch lol.

You are strong to downplay Mel and the Sinner, the denial is real with you.

 

[BurlapJack]

She's just as powerful as Ludoshel, so yes Assault Meliodas (142k) can't do fuck

You argued a lot that mel had the physical strength on his side and eli the magical strength on hers some time ago, so assuming eli doesn't have the speed (mhs+) like mel does and isn't bloodlusted (remember to add that to her before a vs battle for personality types like hers ) she get's diced because of her nature and no good speed feats

 

[sobreno]

You argued a lot that mel had the physical strength on his side and eli the magical strength on hers some time ago, so assuming eli doesn't have the speed (mhs+) like mel does and isn't bloodlusted (remember to add that to her before a vs battle for personality types like hers ) she get's diced because of her nature and no good speed feats

You forgot that her magical attack is irrelevant because Mel has FC anyway lol.

She has zero wat to literally harm him and lol at Elizabeth being close to his combat speed at his base, she has zero feat of that.

 

[OtakuFreak]

You argued a lot that mel had the physical strength on his side and eli the magical strength on hers some time ago, so assuming eli doesn't have the speed (mhs+) like mel does and isn't bloodlusted (remember to add that to her before a vs battle for personality types like hers ) she get's diced because of her nature and no good speed feats

Elizabeth isn't slow or as physically frail as you're implying.

I'm assuming this is a battle where both of them are intending to kill each other (otherwise in reality both of them would never hurt each other) so whilst Meliodas might have the physisal advantage Elizabeth really just needs to hit 1/2 magic attacks to seal the fight.

 

[sobreno]

Elizabeth isn't slow or as physically frail as you're implying.

I'm assuming this is a battle where both of them are intending to kill each other (otherwise in reality both of them would never hurt each other) so whilst Meliodas might have the physisal advantage Elizabeth really just needs to hit 1/2 magic attacks to seal the fight.

Yes, she is lmao, she has zero speed feat nor durability feat.

She got knocked out from consciousness with a single punch.

Yeah, she has zero way to win at all based on pure FC alone.
Not to mention the Ridiculous gap between their physical prowess lol.

No magic attack can touch Mel with his FC, she will taste her own attack with more than double their Original power.
What a haxed power, try to guess why Mel always has an advantage in a magic battle power, because he is like a mirror lol.

The more the magic attack is powerful, the more the rebound is deadly. FC completely ignores your power level too lol. Even if you launch a Kamehameha into Mel's direction, as long as his speed can react to it, he can FC it right away into Goku with an even more powerful kamehameha wave.

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Any fighter know to never fight Mel with pure head on magic attack unless you are stupid like Monspiet who tried that game, you know how he ended lol.

 

[BurlapJack]

Elizabeth isn't slow or as physically frail as you're implying.

Thing is, i need you to show me how her reaction or general speed scales to meliodas in his assault mode at 142k, i want a panel that proves she isnt too slow and i need you to also show me durability feats beyond derriere

 

[sobreno]

Thing is i need you to show me how her reaction or general speed scales to meliodas in his assault mode at 142k, i want a panel that proves she isnt too slow and i need you to also show me durability feats beyond derriere

What you are saying doesn't exist lmao.

No Goddess has physical feat on part with Mel in pure speed and durability, scan wise showed in the manga clearly.

On the other side, Mel has a ton of physical feat, speed feat and durability feat.
Hell, that is his best feat before his OG feat in the manga lol.

 

[Mythoclast]

Elizabeth couldn't react to 50k Derierre or Chandler's cheek fat.
The fuck is she going to do against Mel?

 

[Seven777]

If Elizabeth's 8 wings is an actual transformation then she could win, because that would mean all her detracting feats(getting blitzed and K.O'd by Derriere) would all be feats from her in a lesser form. For all we know the difference in power between her 8 wing form and her normal form is even greater than the difference between AM Meliodas and base Meliodas. Would make sense too when you compare her performance against regular Derriere with her performance against Indura Derriere and Monspeit. But we'll have to wait and see if her 8 wings is actually a transformation or if its just a part of the technique.

 

[BurlapJack]

Still wanting those juicy elizabeth speed and durability features @OtakuFreak

 

[sobreno]

If Elizabeth's 8 wings is an actual transformation then she could win, because that would mean all her detracting feats(getting blitzed and K.O'd by Derriere) would all be feats from her in a lesser form. For all we know the difference in power between her 8 wing form and her normal form is even greater than the difference between AM Meliodas and base Meliodas. Would make sense too when you compare her performance against regular Derriere with her performance against Indura Derriere and Monspeit. But we'll have to wait and see if her 8 wings is actually a transformation or if its just a part of the technique.

Lmao, that is just light, no Goddess has actually 8 wings.

Her performance was poor and she has shit physical capabilities and her magic attack is useless against FC lol.

She can't do shit to even base Mel lmao and lack speed and durability.

She get trashed like how Derrierie knocked her out from consciousness lol.

Lol at her winning against anyone, no Goddess comes close to Mel feat wise, and precisely, physically feat wise.

Your wank is real despite Mel being the worst match up for any magic users opponent with poor physical capabilities.

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Elizabeth couldn't react to 50k Derierre or Chandler's cheek fat.
The fuck is she going to do against Mel?

Those wankers doesn't know what feat and powerscaling means lol.

Physically wise and speed wise, she is shit plain and simple and poor showing in those area.

And magic attack, her only specialty is completely useless against someone like Mel because lol nope Full Counter.

She can't do anything even to base Mel lmao.

 

[Seven777]

Lmao, that is just light, no Goddess has actually 8 wings.

Her performance was poor and she has shit physical capabilities and her magic attack is useless against FC lol.

She can't do shit to even base Mel lmao and lack speed and durability.

She get trashed like how Derrierie knocked her out from consciousness lol.

Lol at her winning against anyone, no Goddess comes close to Mel feat wise, and precisely, physically feat wise.

Your wank is real despite Mel being the worst match up for any magic users opponent with poor physical capabilities.

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Those wankers doesn't know what feat and powerscaling means lol.

Physically wise and speed wise, she is shit plain and simple and poor showing in those area.

And magic attack, her only specialty is completely useless against someone like Mel because lol nope Full Counter.

She can't do anything even to base Mel lmao.

Sure, and AM Mel's demon mark and clothes are just darkness right? Like I said, Elis 8 wings could be a transformation, and if it is that would make all her negative feats outside that transformation(losing to Derriere) as meaningless as all base Mel's feats(losing to the 10C, being unable to escape Melasculas cocoon) since they would come from a lesser version of herself.

 

[sobreno]

Sure, and AM Mel's demon mark and clothes are just darkness right? Like I said, Elis 8 wings could be a transformation, and if it is that would make all her negative feats outside that transformation(losing to Derriere) as meaningless as all base Mel's feats(losing to the 10C, being unable to escape Melasculas cocoon) since they would come from a lesser version of herself.

That is not the same shit, nice attempt at twisting your baseless headcanon. Zero name, zero reaction on anyone, not even herself unlike Mel when he went AM.

AM is a permanent mode that stay unlike her temporary light boost.

Still no answer to her pathetic physical capabilities which was my point here, you call say that her magic is great but her physical capabilities ( strength, speed and durability ) is shit and saying otherwise is clear wank on your side lol.

 

[T25]

Elizabeth couldn't react to 50k Derierre or Chandler's cheek fat.
The fuck is she going to do against Mel?

Mel couldn’t react to dales tongue and was distracting ban and king what could he do? Merlin couldn’t react to zeldris beefing up ON what can she do against the masters? King couldn’t react to Diane’s kick what can he do? Mel couldn’t react to Merlin knocking him out from behind what can he do to her? Are these valid questions?

 

[sobreno]

Mel couldn’t react to dales tongue and was distracting ban and king what could he do? Merlin couldn’t react to zeldris beefing up ON what can she do against the masters? King couldn’t react to Diane’s kick what can he do? Mel couldn’t react to Merlin knocking him out from behind what can he do to her? Are these valid questions?

Completely irrelevant scenario, Elizabeth one is clearly in front of her and still couldn't react.
It wasn't a surprise since any idiot could feel the hostility of Derrierie in that moment. Never Elizabeth dodge a single attack in her life at high speed.

Not only that but she has zero battle speed where she blitz someone lmao.

Nice attempt at saving that damsel in distress most worse category, her physical capabilities category.

 

[T25]

Completely irrelevant scenario, Elizabeth one is clearly in front of her and still couldn't react.
It wasn't a surprise since any idiot could feel the hostility of Derrierie in that moment. Never Elizabeth dodge a single attack in her life at high speed.

Not only that but she has zero battle speed where she blitz someone lmao.

Nice attempt at saving that damsel in distress most worse category, her physical capabilities category.

What are the sd’s physical feats?

 

[sobreno]

What are the sd’s physical feats?

What is the correlation lmao, are you comparing Elizabeth to fucking SD now lol?

I like how you are trying so hard but Elizabeth suck in physical feat, that is so obvious that she isn't the physical type and yet you try lmao.

 

[T25]

What is the correlation lmao, are you comparing Elizabeth to fucking SD now lol?

Answer the question. You want to respond to me when I was not responding to you so now I am responding to you. Speak to me and answer the question.

 

[sobreno]

Answer the question. You want to respond to me when I was not responding to you so now I am responding to you. Speak to me and answer the question.

Ask yourself if that character have any dialogue first lol.

What you are saying is irrelevant to Elizabeth lmao.