Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Magazine News & Discussion (2014 - 2021)

[revo68]

Go Toubun no Hanayome S2 production decided (weibo)

 

[Thaed]

Blue Lock was picked up by MonoScans and Tonari no Edited Manga, the first chapter is up now. https://mangadex.org/chapter/600338

Finally ! I've been waiting for it ! Thank you very much for the info ! The chapter is really nice, looking forward for the next ones!

 

[Hato]

Finally ! I've been waiting for it ! Thank you very much for the info ! The chapter is really nice, looking forward for the next ones!

Yeah, I agree!!! It's cool to have a new good soccer manga. It has a huge potential!

 

[Blue Rock]

Shoseki Ranking, April 22-28

#3 - Nanatsu no Taizai v36 - 86,440 / 297,749
#7 - Go-Toubun no Hanayome v9 - 63,989 / 320,591
#13 - Daiya no A - Act II v16 - 57,665 / 178,725
#22 - Days v32 - 28,171 / 92,878
#24 - Bakemonogatari v5 - 26,866 / 99,113
#34 - Eden's Zero v4 - 18,229 / 62,826
#43 - Seitokai Yakuindomo v17 - 19,348 / 63,037
#68 - Enen no Shouboutai v16 - 13,952 / 41,290
#77 - Fumetsu no Anata e v10 - 12,728 / 37,586
#113 - Runway de Waratte v10 - 9,100 / 33,968

(15/03)
#469 - Toukyou卍 Revengers v11 - 2,517 / 73,677
#476 - Kanojo, Okarishimasu v9 - 2,468 / 96,319

Magazine Pocket
(17/04) - #89 - Infection v14 - 11,096 / 33,829
(09/04) - #353 - Chuuka Ichiban! Kiwami v4 -
(08/03) - #413 - Fairy Tail: 100 Years Quest v2 - 2,909 / 141,546

 

[MangAniMY]

finally

 

[cody]

finally

I wonder how long it's going to be. It should have at least 2 cours, it deserves that much considering its huge success.

 

[Heiji]

And look like Seven Deadly Sins will end may 15.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I have the theory Negi is going to do the same as Akamatsu, and swap from a romcom to a action-adventures series (like Akamatsu did with Love Hina to Negima transition) when he ends 5toubun. I hope this oneshot gets serialized as his next manga, one of my favorite oneshots ever. I'll leave you the link to it (is in spanish though) http://heavenmanga.com/r/teaser-de-manga-y-novelas-ligeras/ura-sekai-communication/1/1

Plot is that one guy who is tired from saving the world (already did 7 times, each time he met with a girl), and just wants a normal life...then Magical Girl Yotsuba appears.


In other of news, it seems Eden Zero isn't still having ''pillar-tier'' sales. Still, since Nanatsu is ending, I'm guessing Kodasha will start pushing EZ more and more.

 

[Jovan]

Ahiru no Sora finally getting a premiere date!!

Nanatsu to Taizai had such a great run. Hoping the mangaka returns with something in the future.

 

[MangAniMY]

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Just thinking:
-Nanatsu is ending in 2 issues
-Juliet is already in its final arc
-Ahiru no Sora is supposedly in its final arc
-I still think 5toubun is already ending in next 2 volumes

I think WSM is going to have a strong round of serializations too. My bet is the return of Yamada-kun author plus the future next big WSM romcom.

Also, I think the next WSM super-hit is coming this year. Maybe in Summer.

 

[Aipom626]

Just thinking:
-Nanatsu is ending in 2 issues
-Juliet is already in its final arc
-Ahiru no Sora is supposedly in its final arc
-I still think 5toubun is already ending in next 2 volumes

I think WSM is going to have a strong round of serializations too. My bet is the return of Yamada-kun author plus the future next big WSM romcom.

Also, I think the next WSM super-hit is coming this year. Maybe in Summer.

I hope Gotoubun isn't nearing the end, but it definitely seems feasible. That would certainly be a major case of going out on top. If Gotoubun and Juliet are both ending, I'm really hoping 2 more excellent romcoms take their places. Out of all of the currently-running romcoms, I'd say these two are my favorites. It's going to be some pretty huge shoes to fill if they both go around the same time

 

[Blue Rock]

Inspired by MangAniMY, I was playing around with charts for awhile now. They didn't turn out like exactly i wanted, but whatever. Below are sales figures for some current magazine series.

Before starting i shoud note:
SE = Special Edition, Limited Edition.. etc.
Red colored numbers from oricon, rest are estimates from shoseki lists.

Ongoing Series:

Spoiler: Go-Toubun no Hanayome

Spoiler: Nanatsu no Taizai

Spoiler: Daiya no A - Act II

Spoiler: Daiya no A

Spoiler: Bakemonogatari

Spoiler: Ahiru no Sora

Spoiler: Days

Spoiler: Hajime no Ippo

Spoiler: Kanojo, Okarishimasu

Spoiler: Enen no Shouboutai

Spoiler: Eden's Zero

Spoiler: Toukyou卍Revengers

Spoiler: Seitokai Yakuindomo

Spoiler: Danshi Koukousei wo Yashinaitai Onee-san no Hanashi

Spoiler: Domestic na Kanojo

Spoiler: Orient

Spoiler: Fumetsu no Anata e

Spoiler: Runway de Waratte

Spoiler: Blue Lock

Spoiler: Senryuu Shoujo

Spoiler: Hitman

Spoiler: Mako-san Wa Shindemo Jiritsu Shinai

Spoiler: Sen wa, Boku wo Egaku

Completed Series in 2019

Spoiler: Shinanaide! Asukawa-san

Spoiler: Kishuku Gakkou no Juliet

Spoiler: Shichi ha Gojuroku

Spoiler: Gambler's Paradise

Spoiler: Yoru ni naru to Boku wa

 

[Jovan]

Thank you for posting these! Will analyze these in detail and post my thoughts on it. Blue Block somehow managed to basically grow again, despite starting way down from Vol 2.

seth2834, if you have time, could you make a Shoseki sales list for Ase to Sekken (あせとせっけん)? While not from WSM, it is shockingly doing well for D Morning (basically Kodansha version of Tonari no Young Jump). Even after 11 days, it is still at #149 place with a backlog of Volume 2 and 1 as well. Love the manga, so I am happy for it.

 

[Blue Rock]

if you have time, could you make a Shoseki sales list for Ase to Sekken (あせとせっけん)? While not from WSM, it is shockingly doing well for D Morning (basically Kodansha version of Tonari no Young Jump). Even after 11 days, it is still at #149 place with a backlog of Volume 2 and 1 as well. Love the manga, so I am happy for it.

I am actually planning to do something about whole Morning magazine, and that includes sales for d-morning series too. It's gonna be somewhat similar to what i did for gessan. Of course that's only if i can fill the gaps in the TOCs. I am probably gonna post the sales figures for Ase to Sekken regardless, since it's an intriguing case.

 

[Jovan]

Bakenomogatari is still cooling off from the initial hype. Sadly it failed to attract new people who have no idea as to what Bakenomogatari actually is. Even with that, it's a good player for Kodansha, and it's going nowhere.

Juliet's rise from Vol 1 to Vol 6 is really pleasing to look at. One of the rare manga who had below 10k debuts and actually managed to blow up! Happy that it is doing well, and seems like anime helped it break 100k, which is nice.

Eden's Zero seems to be another one of the "a follow up to a hit, but fails to be close to it". Shame it never lived up to the Volume 2 growth potential. I guess it could have been even worse, and of course one of the staples for WSM now that Nanatsu is leaving. Not Fairy Tail 2.0 in sales, but still on remarkable levels.

Kanojo Okarishimasu is now even pushing the peak of it's mangaka's previous work (AKB49) away. And it's still growing and growing without stopping at all! Impressive. Anime is a certain for this one and will probably be announced this year. Same thing for Tokyo Revengers, literally (is beating Dessert Eagle in a big way, constantly rising, anime likely).

Fire Force....I am really hoping anime, which came too late, gives a new life to this manga. Sadly, it's a reverse of Kanojo Okarishimasu. Non-stop dropping since Vol 7 which was 2 years ago. Even still, 60k+ for a month is nothing to sneeze at.

Orient. In a move that was supposed to launch a new big hit for Kodansha....well this happened. No idea at how it all came from one of the best selling series on Sunday to something that keeps dropping but also struggling to sell even 1/8th of Magi post-peak numbers!! Has to stabilize, fast.

Shichiha and Gamblers are straight out dead on arrival flops that should be exterminated from their slate. Embarassing to see a disparity of their numbers and the rest of the WSM lineup.

Danshi Kokosei is one of my biggest surprises, since I did not expect it to work so well! Nothing to add, a pleasant dark horse in the sales game.

Domestic Girlfriend's anime boost may have helped it a bit, while that is a bit questionable considering the last volume had no Special Editions, which sell similiarly to the difference last two volumes had (still looks better than some previous non SE volumes). Does what it does, a solid veteran seller that is past it's peak. Nothing more, nothing else.

Unlike most of the followups to the big hits and even though this falls very short of what post anime movie Koe no Katachi did, Fumetsu no Anata e is still very stable post Vol 1 and it isn't so much down from pre movie KnK. Kodansha probably hoped for better, but it managed to form itself as a middle player, which isn't that bad.

Senryuu Shoujo a.k.a. stable as rock. Shame it hasn't managed to break out, but very decent sales for a 4-koma. Hoping anime gives it some exposure, even if just for a bit.

Mako and Hitman are below 30k players that do just enough to avoid being axed, I guess. They are very lucky the infamous bomb duo just happened, so they should continue for a while.

 

[Kave]

Fire Force only 27k... Who thought delaying volume 16 for 5 months was a good idea? It really baffles me

 

[Aipom626]

Bakenomogatari is still cooling off from the initial hype. Sadly it failed to attract new people who have no idea as to what Bakenomogatari actually is. Even with that, it's a good player for Kodansha, and it's going nowhere.

Juliet's rise from Vol 1 to Vol 6 is really pleasing to look at. One of the rare manga who had below 10k debuts and actually managed to blow up! Happy that it is doing well, and seems like anime helped it break 100k, which is nice.

Eden's Zero seems to be another one of the "a follow up to a hit, but fails to be close to it". Shame it never lived up to the Volume 2 growth potential. I guess it could have been even worse, and of course one of the staples for WSM now that Nanatsu is leaving. Not Fairy Tail 2.0 in sales, but still on remarkable levels.

Kanojo Okarishimasu is now even pushing the peak of it's mangaka's previous work (AKB49) away. And it's still growing and growing without stopping at all! Impressive. Anime is a certain for this one and will probably be announced this year. Same thing for Tokyo Revengers, literally (is beating Dessert Eagle in a big way, constantly rising, anime likely).

Fire Force....I am really hoping anime, which came too late, gives a new life to this manga. Sadly, it's a reverse of Kanojo Okarishimasu. Non-stop dropping since Vol 7 which was 2 years ago. Even still, 60k+ for a month is nothing to sneeze at.

Orient. In a move that was supposed to launch a new big hit for Kodansha....well this happened. No idea at how it all came from one of the best selling series on Sunday to something that keeps dropping but also struggling to sell even 1/8th of Magi post-peak numbers!! Has to stabilize, fast.

Shichiha and Gamblers are straight out dead on arrival flops that should be exterminated from their slate. Embarassing to see a disparity of their numbers and the rest of the WSM lineup.

Danshi Kokosei is one of my biggest surprises, since I did not expect it to work so well! Nothing to add, a pleasant dark horse in the sales game.

Domestic Girlfriend's anime boost may have helped it a bit, while that is a bit questionable considering the last volume had no Special Editions, which sell similiarly to the difference last two volumes had (still looks better than some previous non SE volumes). Does what it does, a solid veteran seller that is past it's peak. Nothing more, nothing else.

Unlike most of the followups to the big hits and even though this falls very short of what post anime movie Koe no Katachi did, Fumetsu no Anata e is still very stable post Vol 1 and it isn't so much down from pre movie KnK. Kodansha probably hoped for better, but it managed to form itself as a middle player, which isn't that bad.

Senryuu Shoujo a.k.a. stable as rock. Shame it hasn't managed to break out, but very decent sales for a 4-koma. Hoping anime gives it some exposure, even if just for a bit.

Mako and Hitman are below 30k players that do just enough to avoid being axed, I guess. They are very lucky the infamous bomb duo just happened, so they should continue for a while.

I still wish someone would translate Mako-san since it looks pretty cute and funny, but in all honesty, it seems like a translation nightmare. For a 5-page 4-koma, most chapters seem like they have a ton of text on them. Honestly, with Nanatsu ending soon and Kishuku starting its final arc, Hitman and Mako-san both may still be pretty good for a while longer. Gambler and Shichiha still have to go, plus there's no guarantee the 2 new series that replace those & whatever replaces Nanatsu in 3 issues won't bomb either.

 

[MangAniMY]

Inspired by MangAniMY, I was playing around with charts for awhile now. They didn't turn out like exactly i wanted, but whatever. Below are sales figures for some current magazine series.

Before starting i shoud note:
SE = Special Edition, Limited Edition.. etc.
Red colored numbers from oricon, rest are estimates from shoseki lists.

Spoiler: Bakemonogatari

Spoiler: Kishuku Gakkou no Juliet

Spoiler: Eden's Zero

Spoiler: Kanojo, Okarishimasu

Spoiler: Toukyou卍Revengers

Spoiler: Danshi Koukousei wo Yashinaitai Onee-san no Hanashi

Spoiler: Domestic na Kanojo

Spoiler: Enen no Shouboutai

Spoiler: Orient

Spoiler: Fumetsu no Anata e

Spoiler: Runway de Waratte

Spoiler: Senryuu Shoujo

Spoiler: Blue Lock

Spoiler: Hitman

Spoiler: Mako-san Wa Shindemo Jiritsu Shinai

Spoiler: Gambler's Paradise

Spoiler: Shichi ha Gojuroku

nice, It would be better if you keep the colour consistent, an easy way is to save them as templates and apply the to every chart, but that depends on your work flow.


anyway, since you have been making all the Shoseki estimates, I actually have to ask... (not that I'll be doing shoseki chart since they really can't do LTD)

is there a universally accepted way to these shoseki estimates?

I just eyeball then most of the times, so I never bothered to actually calculate them. I figured it would best be done by fitting to a "log" scale, but I won't get into why that just a few problems to it automatically,

 

[LuckyJim]

Inspired by MangAniMY, I was playing around with charts for awhile now. They didn't turn out like exactly i wanted, but whatever. Below are sales figures for some current magazine series.

Before starting i shoud note:
SE = Special Edition, Limited Edition.. etc.
Red colored numbers from oricon, rest are estimates from shoseki lists.

Spoiler: Bakemonogatari

Spoiler: Kishuku Gakkou no Juliet

Spoiler: Eden's Zero

Spoiler: Kanojo, Okarishimasu

Spoiler: Toukyou卍Revengers

Spoiler: Danshi Koukousei wo Yashinaitai Onee-san no Hanashi

Spoiler: Domestic na Kanojo

Spoiler: Enen no Shouboutai

Spoiler: Orient

Spoiler: Fumetsu no Anata e

Spoiler: Runway de Waratte

Spoiler: Senryuu Shoujo

Spoiler: Blue Lock

Spoiler: Hitman

Spoiler: Mako-san Wa Shindemo Jiritsu Shinai

Spoiler: Gambler's Paradise

Spoiler: Shichi ha Gojuroku

It's really cool that you're doing this, MangAniMY's charts have been really nice visualizations for the Shonen Jump forums, so it's great that you're stepping up to contribute something similar for Magazine. Keep up the good work!