Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[ElJin]

Guys, I need some help.

Viz recently released a website to read (for free) the newest chapters, right? And this was valid for everyone with no restriction by country.

Anyone has the link? Or am I wrong (didn’t was completely into this back than)?

 

[CuriousReborn]

Guys, I need some help.

Viz recently released a website to read (for free) the newest chapters, right? And this was valid for everyone with no restriction by country.

Anyone has the link? Or am I wrong (didn’t was completely into this back than)?

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/updates

 

[supercow297]

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/updates

Yo who's down to doodle their top Jump series, one or a few up to you. And post it here

Here's mine

 

[101nemesis]

Yo who's down to doodle their top Jump series, one or a few up to you. And post it here

Here's mine

Cool idea but maybe it should be in a different thread?

 

[DyanSon]

Jujutsu Kaisen volume 5 stays rank 3rd for 4 days. Expecting impressive sales here

 

[SharkBait]

Jujutsu Kaisen volume 5 stays rank 3rd for 4 days. Expecting impressive sales here

in what way? without context impressive doesnt mean anything.

 

[MangAniMY]

relative are just that, relative, especially for daily,

I would say this, if Jujutsu is still above BGS (It won't be above Natsume) on the Weekly, 100k FW is possible

side note: BGS debuted earlier in the week hence the reason it might be lower in the daily, the Weekly will tell

 

[tirakai]

One thing I like about having manga+ now is that I can still have a mini monday jump marathon even when the main magazine is off. I always liked when, during the subscription service days, the monthlies would happen to fall on a no-wsj week and they released a mini-issue for them, and now this week it's like we've got a Jump+ mini-issue with Jigokuraku, Summer Time, and Spy x Family.

 

[101nemesis]

in what way? without context impressive doesnt mean anything.

You're right but it's ironic coming from you since you hype up digital sales without any context either.

 

[SharkBait]

You're right but it's ironic coming from you since you hype up digital sales without any context either.

How? We all know that digital manga sales 40-60% of print sales which is an impressive increase for series in the 300k+ range like BC versus series with no digital presence.

 

[Caiops]

How? We all know that digital manga sales 40-60% of print sales which is an impressive increase for series in the 300k+ range like BC versus series with no digital presence.

BLack Clover is a 500k seller if you count the digital sales, not 300k.

 

[MangAniMY]

How? We all know that digital manga sales 40-60% of print sales which is an impressive increase for series in the 300k+ range like BC versus series with no digital presence.

>BC have great digital presence,

only ranked in apple store for 2018...

 

[SharkBait]

BLack Clover is a 500k seller if you count the digital sales, not 300k.

even better, its already surpassing BLeach

 

[101nemesis]

How? We all know that digital manga sales 40-60% of print sales which is an impressive increase for series in the 300k+ range like BC versus series with no digital presence.

-> Picks on someone who gets excited for Jujutsu actually doing well on daily rankings which obviously implies better sales (even if not "impressive").
-> Grossly misunderstands how numbers work and applies market wide percentage on biased series whilst ignoring how plenty of other series (big and small) have outperformed it on said digital platform based on actual available best seller lists.



PS - I know it's a bait. But I need some stress relief right about now and this is plenty

 

[CuriousReborn]

even better, its already surpassing BLeach

Cmon man this is weak even for you

 

[savethecat]

Surprised not many people are talking about the Samurai 8 full synopsis that Yonkou leaked

 

[CuriousReborn]

Surprised not many people are talking about the Samurai 8 full synopsis that Yonkou leaked

I dont follow Yonkou so I wouldn't know and I rather go blind into the manga

 

[Unok]

-> Grossly misunderstands how numbers work and applies market wide percentage on biased series whilst ignoring how plenty of other series (big and small) have outperformed it on said digital platform based on actual available best seller lists.

Nice, basing argument on limited info with no numbers, limited number of stores, not including the shueisha store. For all we know, 50k on XXX site may get you 40th position, but on YYY it may be 15th (and on ZZZ to be 150th), and you will be like "the 15th series here sold more than 40th series there". But go ahead, make your argument on no data and user preference from where they buy their shit.

Honestly if you are providing this as argument for SharkBait's words, then the limited info and data he uses to make his argument, has same weight as yours.

edit:
Oh, no. Black Clover in top 20 - https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/apple-books-japan-top-20-manga-works.html
Guess, it's a million seller now XD

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Surprised not many people are talking about the Samurai 8 full synopsis that Yonkou leaked

They will be talking about the Beast Children full synopsis, that I can tell you.

 

[101nemesis]

Nice, basing argument on limited info with no numbers, limited number of stores, not including the shueisha store. For all we know, 50k on XXX site may get you 40th position, but on YYY it may be 15th (and on ZZZ to be 150th), and you will be like "the 15th series here sold more than 40th series there". But go ahead, make your argument on no data and user preference from where they buy their shit.

Honestly if you are providing this as argument for SharkBait's words, then the limited info and data he uses to make his argument, has same weight as yours.

edit:
Oh, no. Black Clover in top 20 - https://manganimemalaysia.blogspot.com/2018/12/apple-books-japan-top-20-manga-works.html
Guess, it's a million seller now XD

At this point, I can't even tell if you're supporting me or defending him.

Shark's logic is as follows; (made up example below)
Movie industry saw growth of 20% more boxoffice returns month on month from last year. Shark's logic implies that every movie released during the time frame made 20% more because he's using a market wide growth percentage when in reality it could have been just one movie that contributed to the whole growth while everything else failed.
Translation - He uses a generalized market number for a series when that series could be selling just a 100 copies a volume.

Whoever posted the comment about Jujutsu was optimistic based on daily rankings from a site that has always provided a vague idea where a volume stands. But that said, it always provided a basic idea of how good or bad a series is doing. Sure, the first 4 series might sell monumental and this might sell peanuts in comparison (which is why I mentioned their choice of word of "impressive" might be too much).
Going by a ranking that has given us a decent level of idea where something stands (when using it to compare to actual numbers we get) is far better than what Shark seems to be doing, which is push out numbers from wherever possible with nothing in hand.