Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

Shark's logic is as follows; (made up example below)
Movie industry saw growth of 20% more boxoffice returns month on month from last year. Shark's logic implies that every movie released during the time frame made 20% more because he's using a market wide growth percentage when in reality it could have been just one movie that contributed to the whole growth while everything else failed.
Translation - He uses a generalized market number for a series when that series could be selling just a 100 copies a volume.

Your logic is not sound based on what we know manga sells, no single or even handful of manga are pushing manga growth like that, in fact. The leaders have faced decline while new faces have experienced growth. Further the online sales applies to the market as a whole, thus it is not illogical to apply the growth across the board, it is common practice in fact to apply market trends.

It is more sound than using vague floaty daily rankings with no sales units given for any position. It is prone to bias and additionally we know manga sales face significant exponential sales drops in even the first few positions.

 

[Jovan]

Seems like Chainsaw Vol 2 first 4 days will come just short of Vol 1 first 7 days, which is great. Happy to see it growing. Sucks Shueisha volumes were launched on mid week like this which will affect Oricon charting in Week 2, but oh well. There is always a Vol 3 to fix that.

 

[MangAniMY]

...

less days in FW actually increases chances to appear in week 2 tbh

also, since it is not scheduled for July,

(most likely )August is either 3 days, or 7 days, depending on them going for 2 august or 5 august and they usually goes for before the 4th


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since someone mentioned it...
as usual

1 9784088817972 僕のヒーローアカデミア　２３ 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.5.2
5 9784088818283 呪術廻戦　５ 集英社 芥見下々 2019.5.2
9 9784088817958 アクタージュ　ａｃｔ－ａｇｅ　６ 集英社 宇佐崎しろ 2019.5.2
10 9784088818559 キン肉マン　６７ 集英社 ゆでたまご 2019.5.2
21 9784088818382 新テニスの王子様　２６ 集英社 許斐剛 2019.5.2
23 9784088818542 ダーリン・イン・ザ・フランキス　５ 集英社 矢吹健太朗 2019.5.2
26 9784088818313 チェンソーマン　２ 集英社 藤本タツキ 2019.5.2
32 9784088820026 劇場版ＤＲＡＧＯＮ　ＢＡＬＬ超　ブロリー 集英社 鳥山明 2019.5.2
40 9784088818306 火ノ丸相撲　２５ 集英社 川田 2019.5.2
43 9784088818504 スーパードラゴンボールヒーローズ　ユニバ　１ 集英社 ながやま由貴 2019.5.2
97 9784088820040 早乙女姉妹は漫画のためなら！？　４ 集英社 山本亮平 2019.5.2
189 9784834232783 劇場版アニメコミックス　「僕のヒーローアカ 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.5.2
310 9784088818375 サマータイムレンダ　６ 集英社 田中靖規 2019.5.2
320 9784088818191 昭和オトメ御伽話　２ 集英社 桐丘さな 2019.5.2
402 9784088818351 とけだせ！みぞれちゃん　２ 集英社 足袋はなお 2019.5.2

※30位以下のおおまかな実売目安（推定）
30位23400/50位17000/100位11000/200位6300/300位4850/400位3400/500位2650


also, kimetsu

33 9784088817996 鬼滅の刃　１５ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.4.4
38 9784088807553 鬼滅の刃　０２ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2016.8.4
42 9784088807232 鬼滅の刃　０１ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2016.6.3
44 9784088807959 鬼滅の刃　０３ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2016.10.4
50 9784088808260 鬼滅の刃　０４ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2016.12.2
56 9784088810263 鬼滅の刃　０５ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2017.3.3
62 9784088816951 鬼滅の刃　１４ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2019.1.4
65 9784088810768 鬼滅の刃　０６ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2017.5.2
66 9784088815404 鬼滅の刃　１２ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2018.8.3
67 9784088813998 鬼滅の刃　１１ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2018.6.4
68 9784088816265 鬼滅の刃　１３ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2018.11.2
72 9784088811932 鬼滅の刃　０７ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2017.8.4
75 9784088812120 鬼滅の刃　０８ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2017.10.4
76 9784088812830 鬼滅の刃　０９ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2017.12.4
78 9784088813554 鬼滅の刃　１０ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2018.3.2

 

[CuriousReborn]

Spoiler: Samurai 8 pages

 

[MangAniMY]

August Volumes(includes jump+& SQ)

Samurai 8 vol. 1

3 days FW

8/2
僕のヒーローアカデミア 24 440
チェンソーマン 3 440
約束のネバーランド 15 440
ゆらぎ荘の幽奈さん 17 440
ぼくたちは勉強ができない 13 440
サムライ8　八丸伝 1 440
とけだせ！みぞれちゃん 3 600
左ききのエレン 9 460
阿波連さんははかれない 7 600
サマータイムレンダ 7 600
むとうとさとう 2 未定
忘却バッテリー 5 600
府中三億円事件を計画・実行したのは私です。 1 未定
この恋はこれ以上綺麗にならない。 2 600
終末のハーレム 9 600
姫様”拷問”の時間です 1 未定
顔がこの世に向いてない。 1 未定
アラタプライマル 2 600
放課後の王子様 6 495
増田こうすけ劇場　ギャグマンガ日和GB 4 未定
活撃 刀剣乱舞 5 480
るろうに剣心−明治剣客浪漫譚・北海道編− 3 480
新テニスの王子様 27 480
ドラゴンボール超 10 440
ワンパンマン 21 440
ヴィジランテ-僕のヒーローアカデミアILLEGALS- 7 460
終末のハーレム ファンタジア 3 600

 

[101nemesis]

Your logic is not sound based on what we know manga sells, no single or even handful of manga are pushing manga growth like that, in fact. The leaders have faced decline while new faces have experienced growth. Further the online sales applies to the market as a whole, thus it is not illogical to apply the growth across the board, it is common practice in fact to apply market trends.

I mean, Shueisha chief disagrees with your logic since he said that digital was only 30% for Shueisha manga. Which is far away from the 50-60% market number. And that 30% is a generalized number across all demographics under Shueisha meaning WSJ manga could be selling nothing for all we know.

We've had this discussion before and you lost then and you've lost now as well.

 

[MangAniMY]

 

[Jovan]

Book-rank.net seems to have started putting back the estimated sales on their site (from January 2019 onwards)

 

[MangAniMY]

Book-rank.net seems to have started putting back the estimated sales on their site (from January 2019 onwards)

wonder how long it will be up...

since while not explicitly stated, and no Shoseki /POS rankings are in the site, they are clearly using estimates from shoseki lol.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Inagaki held a party to celebrate the start of the new era, and his son got a signature from all these big names who were present...

Btw, the Mosaic is his name, not a secret character or anything.

 

[SharkBait]

Inagaki held a party to celebrate the start of the new era, and his son got a signature from all these big names who were present...

Btw, the Mosaic is his name, not a secret character or anything.

Tabata and Furudate were not invited?

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Shimabukuro picking Takeshi over Toriko again

Kek Mr. Fullswing. Anime for never

 

[iceemperor]

That picture would have been perfect had Watsuki not been there.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

That picture would have been perfect had Watsuki not been there.

What about Shimabukuro? Takeshi was axed after all because Shimabukuro recorded a video with an underage girl.

 

[Halloween]

What about Shimabukuro? Takeshi was axed after all because Shimabukuro recorded a video with an underage girl.

He didn't record a video. He attempted to sleep with a 16 year old prostitute.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Can ToC leak or someone bait Black Clover sales again please

 

[Newkerzy]

Question: Was it ever clarified what Watsuki's "collection" were like? As in, the age range? All I've read about this story was the fact that Watsuki did possess underage porn, but it was never stated specifically what the age range was. So, anyone mind clarifying this?

 

[Halloween]

Question: Was it ever clarified what Watsuki's "collection" were like? As in, the age range? All I've read about this story was the fact that Watsuki did possess underage porn, but it was never stated specifically what the age range was. So, anyone mind clarifying this?

It doesn't matter, since Watsuki himself specified what age ranges he's attracted to.

 

[Newkerzy]

It doesn't matter, since Watsuki himself specified what age ranges he's attracted to.

And where exactly was this?

 

[Tamil]

Question: Was it ever clarified what Watsuki's "collection" were like? As in, the age range? All I've read about this story was the fact that Watsuki did possess underage porn, but it was never stated specifically what the age range was. So, anyone mind clarifying this?

third paragraph
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...0000-yen-for-possession-of-child-porn/.128322