Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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I read Hachimaru. In general was a mediocre first chapter and a bad introduction to a world.

In the art part:
-The character design of everyone beside the cat and the machine are bad, it seems like Kishi took character of like 5 project he had and okubo put in them. I felt like I was reading Tokiwa Kitareri.
-Like I say the machines looks cool.
-The action scenes were decent, only good one was when the ronin enter in the house to attack the cat.
- The backgrounds feels in some moments like scifi One piece, in other 100% kishimoto or even sometimes feels like Kubo. It doesn't have the artist mark and feels mediocre in general(the only good one was when the 2 samurais where fighting).
-The ronin and the MC design in the final fight looks lame, even Demon Plan's armor looks decent compared to it.

In the story departament:
-Characters in general feels flat. Even series like Jujutsu which have a mediocre first chapter makes you sorta like the Main Character. In here , even the most charismatic character(the cat) is only here and you don't care about him.
-The interaction between characters is one of the most terrible things I have read in a first chapter in Shonen Jump, I think even Golen Hearts makes a better use of the father-son dynamics. In the end, all the good character interact to each other in likes 2 pages, and you have to feels bad when something bad happen or because the protagonist is sick , or the cat is hurt or because the father is going to see his son's death(the only one moment that can touch you because the flashback).
-The main character transformation doesn't give you any emotions because how bad is made. Naruto's shadow clones, All Might "You can become a Hero" or even Asta's Black grimorie feels better estructured.
-The final fight looks rushed ,
-I put the Sci-fi elements in doubt when he say that the cat were a Human. It makes me feels that is going to be robots and humans battle shonen with a little of fantasy.
-The action scenes story-wise doesn't looks promising. Last Saiyuki(which I don't think is as good as everyone here said it is) is more fun to read.

I have more things to say, but like I say, is a mediocre first chapter which don't make you believe that is going to be good. But well, Jujutsu and World Trigger also have a mediocre first chapter and after the first chapter it got good.
 
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So the next up is the shogi manga? Not really sure how can you top Mononofu and do better than it (still one of my favorite 1st chapters in WSJ) but guess we will see.
 

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So the next up is the shogi manga? Not really sure how can you top Mononofu and do better than it (still one of my favorite 1st chapters in WSJ) but guess we will see.
Futari no Taisei. The yaoi shogi.
 

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TBH what I'm expecting the most is to see if Edited Manga groups (mainly Jaimini and Mangastream) are going to pick one of remaining 3 new titles, or the 3 of them will go the Jujutsu way aka no Edited Mangas until Viz on Sunday.

I hope Samurai 8 doesn't cuck the other 3 titles
 

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Wow Samurai 8 was surprisingly bland, the art felt messy and the action scenes were all over the place. It felt like it tried way too much to fit so many things in the story, it felt really cluttered.
 

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I have to agree with the people up there regarding Samurai 8. The art was also a bit messy, I could barely comprehend the early pages because of how stuffed everything was. But, it is ironic that I still find it the 2nd best start of a WSJ 2019 manga besides Chainsaw Man. What a lackluster bunch this year...

TBH what I'm expecting the most is to see if Edited Manga groups (mainly Jaimini and Mangastream) are going to pick one of remaining 3 new titles, or the 3 of them will go the Jujutsu way aka no Edited Mangas until Viz on Sunday.

I hope Samurai 8 doesn't cuck the other 3 titles
If nobody picked up Higuma, Kamio Yui or Saiyuki, I then have doubts Tokyo Shinobi will be picked up which seems generic while also being made by unknown for West mangakas, let alone a spokon and a shogi manga. Maybe Beast Children by MangaStream if it somehow by a miracle gets popular.

Being a MangaPlus exclusive isn't neccessarily a bad thing, but the problem is that as a service it still pales in popularity over the two places that bring out the most buzzy WSJ manga early.
 

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Samurai 8 1st volume will be out finaly october 4 (and not august 2). Perhaps serie will became monthly after 2nd chapter.

Until october 4 :
-if serie is weekly, will be have 20 chapters (so around 465 pages so 2/3 volumes).
-if monthly, will have 6 chapters for around 225 pages (logicaly 4 first chapter will be in 1st volume).

If serie continue in weekly, make no sens to out 1st volume so late.

And reprint (may 28) for :

NEW 5/28 ジャンプ アクタージュ act-age 6 宇佐崎 しろ/マツキ タツヤ
NEW 5/28 ジャンプ 呪術廻戦 5 芥見 下々
NEW 5/28 ジャンプ 約束のネバーランド 1~13 出水 ぽすか/白井 カイウ
NEW 5/30 ジャンプ チェンソーマン 1、2 藤本 タツキ
Act-age #06
Jujutsu Kaisen #05
The Promised Neverland 1-13
Chainsaw Man 1-2
 
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Not like it matters if it gets picked up by scans groups, we get an official free chapters anyways, unless viz pick none of the new ones which I doubt
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Please not monthly
 

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My take on Samurai 8 is, that for all the shortcomings the first chapter presented, I liked the characters well enough to stick around to see where it's going. In hindsight, I wonder if the reason Kishi decided to make an infodump first chapter was to rectify the criticisms on Naruto not really doing enough world-building until late into the endgame.
 

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I wouldn't judge the art in samurai 8 from a Edited Manga.




I'll stick to the official release next time.
This has been the case for as long as I can remember. I bought a WSJ digital sub back in the day for Toriko specifically because of this sort of thing. I just read both, since I'm impatient.
 

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Heiji, maybe it's a mistake? I don't remember Volume 1 release dates are out so early in the run. Because October would be very strange for something like this. If anything, I thought it would be rushed for August!
 

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I wouldn't judge the art in samurai 8 from a Edited Manga.




I'll stick to the official release next time.
The backgrounds still feels inconsistent in general and Okubo doesn't have an idea of what is he doing. Also the other aspect of his art remain.
If we go that way, we can't critique the art of all series with Edited Manga.
 

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so, mangaplus started a new project where they interview the editors of jump manga


first one is on MHA

how did you find this if you're on the main page? I feel like they aren't doing a good job of navigation (and you can't access this content within the app itself).
 

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how did you find this if you're on the main page? I feel like they aren't doing a good job of navigation (and you can't access this content within the app itself).
this is on the 2nd tab on the app
and on featured on the website
 

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how did you find this if you're on the main page? I feel like they aren't doing a good job of navigation (and you can't access this content within the app itself).
 

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For MHA 23, apparently the distribution is not immediately nationwide in Japan.
 
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Samurai first chapter was great.

So many feels.
 

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The backgrounds still feels inconsistent in general and Okubo doesn't have an idea of what is he doing. Also the other aspect of his art remain.
If we go that way, we can't critique the art of all series with Edited Manga.
I agree with that statement. We have access to legal direct feed manga now, no excuses.
 
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