Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Tarot]

The backgrounds still feels inconsistent in general and Okubo doesn't have an idea of what is he doing. Also the other aspect of his art remain.
If we go that way, we can't critique the art of all series with Edited Manga.

Can you explain what you mean when you say Okubo doesn't know what he's doing and the other aspect of his art?

 

[Xzone]

Can you explain what you mean when you say Okubo doesn't know what he's doing and the other aspect of his art?

In the art part:
-The character design of everyone beside the cat and the machine are bad, it seems like Kishi took character of like 5 project he had and okubo put in them. I felt like I was reading Tokiwa Kitareri.
-Like I say the machines looks cool.
-The action scenes were decent, only good one was when the ronin enter in the house to attack the cat.
- The backgrounds feels in some moments like scifi One piece, in other 100% kishimoto or even sometimes feels like Kubo. It doesn't have the artist mark and feels mediocre in general(the only good one was when the 2 samurais where fighting).
-The ronin and the MC design in the final fight looks lame, even Demon Plan's armor looks decent compared to it.

 

[Halloween]

Is Okuba the one to blame? Kishi is the one literally doing sketches, panel work and storyboarding.

 

[Tarot]

Most of those are pretty subjective but I still don't get the criticism about the backgrounds. They're consistently detailed (far too much) and have a soft shape to them but I don't see how it changes to something from Kubo's or Oda.

Besides that, I've seen more than enough people praising the designs and the background. The problem majority had with the art was the characters blending too much with the excessively detailed backgrounds to the point where it's difficult to distinguish them. The heavily filtered scans by Jamini amplifies the issues, especially in fast moving scenes. This is why I believe the official scans should rectify the problem.

 

[Blink22]

Kishi should use thicker lines for the characters then to distinguish them from the background. Everything looks like it’s made of gel

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Samurai 8 was great.

 

[savethecat]

I think there are things in the artwork that could use some improvement. But overall it’s a competently, well-drawn manga. Don’t get where the contempt for it is coming from

 

[Xzone]

Most of those are pretty subjective but I still don't get the criticism about the backgrounds. They're consistently detailed (far too much) and have a soft shape to them but I don't see how it changes to something from Kubo's or Oda.

Background being detailed doesn't mean nothing , dude.
In general it feels empy , and lack of personality. Okubo doesn't took the kishi sketchs and makes his own(except for the MC design).

Besides that, I've seen more than enough people praising the designs and the background.

More people liking something doesn't make it objetively good.

The heavily filtered scans by Jamini amplifies the issues, especially in fast moving scenes. This is why I believe the official scans should rectify the problem.

You're using 1 page as a proof that a 72 pages chapter art was downgraded which remember me the "part 5 story wasn't bad, it was translation problem" debate all over again...

 

[Avok]

Solid first chapter of Samurai 8.

I do agree that some panels look somewhat cluttered but as a whole I think it has potential.

 

[Heiji]

For MHA 23, apparently the distribution is not immediately nationwide in Japan.

Its for all manga/magazine not just Mha. In Hokkaido, Kyushu and Okinawa, manga/magazine is still out late.

 

[Tarot]

Background being detailed doesn't mean nothing , dude.
In general it feels empy , and lack of personality. Okubo doesn't took the kishi sketchs and makes his own(except for the MC design).

So where does Oda and Kubo fit into here?

More people liking something doesn't make it objetively good.

I literally mentioned in the first line of my post that it's all subjective dude.

You're using 1 page as a proof that a 72 pages chapter art was downgraded which remember me the "part 5 story wasn't bad, it was translation problem" debate all over again...

All I'm saying is that it's better to wait for the official scans before criticising it. Okubo's not the only artist who's work has been downgraded thanks to the filters.

 

[Ctkk]

Its for all manga/magazine not just Mha. In Hokkaido, Kyushu and Okinawa, manga/magazine is still out late.

Is that a Golden Week thing or it happens always? What's the release date there?

 

[101nemesis]

Okubo needs to better distinguish the background from the actual characters and material in the world. Like someone said, I think he needs to draw thicker lines for the background. Or make use of more screen tones to better distinguish things.

Like look at these two pages.

Spoiler: Pages from the chapter

1st page bottom panel is obviously cluttered and its hard for a random person going through something quickly to make sense of it.
2nd page 1st panel however, makes a lot more sense and has depth in it because of how he's used screen tones.

With that said, I enjoyed the first chapter. It wasn't incredible but it was definitely better than your average first chapters.

Edit - He also needs a better way to show the morphing thing they do with the animals. It's very hard to distinguish.

 

[Heiji]

Is that a Golden Week thing or it happens always? What's the release date there?

Happens always. Generaly 1/2 days after official date (but sometimes, volumes of big serie (like one piece) out sameday.

--- Double Post Merged, May 11, 2019, Original Post Date: May 10, 2019 ---

We Never Learn 14th volume, out november 1, will have limited edition with Oad. Will be adaptation of chapter #48 and #49.
Higuma will have epilogue in july on Shônen Jump +. 3rd (last) volume will be out august 2.

 

[KennyKuro]

Jujutsu Kaisen Color Page

Spoiler

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Jujutsu Kaisen Color Page

Spoiler

I forgot Jujutsu Kaisen had color pages.

A pity that SpyTrue doesn't care about 2018 titles and doesn't post their color pages like he does with rest of Jump. The moment he deliberately doesn't post color pages of Act-age and Jujutsu because ''he doesn't like them'', he fails for me as information source.

EDIT: For me, Chainsawman has stole the spotlight to Samurai 8 this week. How the heck did they allow Fujimoto to draw that page in current Jump?

 

[PluemBNK48]

WTF is this week Chainsaw man
LoL

 

[Halloween]

WTF is this week Chainsaw man
LoL

First time I've ever had a gag reflex from reading a manga. This series has me feeling all sorts of ways.

 

[Heiji]

I forgot Jujutsu Kaisen had color pages.

A pity that SpyTrue doesn't care about 2018 titles and doesn't post their color pages like he does with rest of Jump. The moment he deliberately doesn't post color pages of Act-age and Jujutsu because ''he doesn't like them'', he fails for me as information source.

EDIT: For me, Chainsawman has stole the spotlight to Samurai 8 this week. How the heck did they allow Fujimoto to draw that page in current Jump?

From next week i will try to post all color page of Jump. For Spytrue i see he block me on twitter. And in fact is Moetron friend. So i understand why he block me Xd.

 

[Tarot]

LOL. How did all those grandpas at Shueisha allow Chainsawman's recent chapter?