Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Brizzi]

Made A Shonen Jump Tier list for fun

You forgot to put Sket Dance at SS.

 

[Tamil]

Toriko was REALLY good until all the food started looking like an oozy mess. When the food didn't appeal anymore, so did the series.

Toriko was great, especially pre-TS, very creative with its world-building even during the TS world building was amazing. I rate Toriko a 9/10 pre-TS but TS brings it down. My complaints was the TS started out bad with skipping Toriko saving Komatsu. Then it had that awful 3 area skip and the final area rushed nearly completely, characterization/development & world building gone down the drain. That brought Toriko down to a 7 maybe even a 6 for me but what "saved" Toriko was definitely it's ending. Toriko's ending is spectacular and honestly the best by far in recent times. That brought Toriko from a 6-7 to a light 8. The ending was that good for me and strong endings are hard to pull off.

As someone mentioned, Takeshi is better. The story is messy at the start from what I read but the characters are fantastic, plus the first fight beats most of Toriko's fights IMO. Very manly and had emotional impact for me with Bonchu's backstory. I heard from the Japaense that the ending for Takeshi is amazing so it makes me want to learn Japanese just so I can read it. Sadly find time to learn is quite hard atm.

Shouldnt there be two manga in pedo section?

Fuck off

 

[Brizzi]

Toriko was great, especially pre-TS, very creative with its world-building even during the TS world building was amazing. I rate Toriko a 9/10 pre-TS but TS brings it down. My complaints was the TS started out bad with skipping Toriko saving Komatsu. Then it had that awful 3 area skip and the final area rushed nearly completely, characterization/development & world building gone down the drain. That brought Toriko down to a 7 maybe even a 6 for me but what "saved" Toriko was definitely it's ending. Toriko's ending is spectacular and honestly the best by far in recent times. That brought Toriko from a 6-7 to a light 8. The ending was that good for me and strong endings are hard to pull off.

That's good to know! I never finished reading Toriko, even though I just didn't read the last 30 chapters or so. I'll pick it up to read the rest eventually but that motivates me more.

 

[Jovan]

Besides TENJIN that ended today, Jump+ has also axed the biweekly manga Houki ni Matagaru Shuukatsu Sensou after 22 chapters and disastrous sales (ranked #476 on Shoseki Day 1 of Vol 2 release lmao)

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

So, with Kimetsu #15 back into the top 30 this week (in shoseki rankings) and the rest of the volumes still at the top 75 (and going up), how much do you think the volumes will get to eventually? #1 was around 300k, and I think it may even get to 500k, mayyyyybe even 600k

 

[Halloween]

Wait, can someone summarize what's going on with the release date of Samurai 8's first volume?

 

[101nemesis]

So, with Kimetsu #15 back into the top 30 this week (in shoseki rankings) and the rest of the volumes still at the top 75 (and going up), how much do you think the volumes will get to eventually? #1 was around 300k, and I think it may even get to 500k, mayyyyybe even 600k

Eh? No. It'll do max 400k unless this boost goes on for another 6 months.

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

Eh? No. It'll do max 400k unless this boost goes on for another 6 months.

It's already over 320k, and does over 8000k each week.
There are still almost 20 episodes left.

 

[TyVip]

Wait, can someone summarize what's going on with the release date of Samurai 8's first volume?

Push back to October from July/August release

Heiji suggests that it will either go into monthly or they plan to release 1 and 2 simultaneously, else Shuiesha makes no sense.

 

[Aeneas]

Wait, can someone summarize what's going on with the release date of Samurai 8's first volume?

I was curious so I checked the big three. A five-month gap doesn't seem that strange.

One Piece
First chapter: July 1997
Volume 1: December 1997

Naruto
First chapter: September 1999
Volume 1: March 2000

Bleach
First chapter: August 2001
Volume 1: January 2002

 

[TyVip]

Half year sales sometime this week (nov 30th to may 31st)

 

[SharkBait]

Half year sales sometime this week (nov 30th to may 31st)

BLack Clover, Haikyuu, and Jujutsu Kaisen domination.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

For once, my interest in half year sales is going to come from WSM (mainly 5toubun having high chances to be over freaking Nanatsu).

Focusing in Jump:
-I'll guess Neverland is going to beat both MHA and Haikyuu
-Wondering if Kimetsu will manage to get 9th or 10th place spot

I'm guessing we'll never see Black Clover again in a top-10 sales like in 1st half of 2018

 

[Franz]

-Wondering if Kimetsu will manage to get 9th or 10th place spot

Sure, even higher

 

[Tamil]

So, with Kimetsu #15 back into the top 30 this week (in shoseki rankings) and the rest of the volumes still at the top 75 (and going up), how much do you think the volumes will get to eventually? #1 was around 300k, and I think it may even get to 500k, mayyyyybe even 600k

Just because Kimetsu's volume 1 sales are past 300k doesn't necessarily mean the series will pass that point. The volume 1 sales for most series are always much higher than it sells on average or currently sells in a given year (ongoing).

I still stand by my first prediction that Kimetsu will have similar manga success to World Trigger. I think its low-mid 300k's? Once the demon train arc in the anime is adapted then I could see that being the peak point of the manga sales so maybe close to 400k. 500k or 600k sounds unlikely imo.

 

[TxxT]

Half year sales sometime this week (nov 30th to may 31st)

Im guessing the top 10 for first half will be:

1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Kingdom
4. MHA
5. 5toubun
6. AOT
7. Haikyu!!
8. Slime
9. Kaguya-sama
10. One Punch Man / Seven Deadly Sins

 

[Vizard]

Oricon Rankings for the first half of 2019 are out right?
Volumes: https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2136418/
https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53075/6/
Series:

【2019年 上半期本ランキング】樹木希林さん書籍が好調、新書初の上半期1位　生田絵梨花写真集は上半期歴代最高売上 7ページ目

「第12回オリコン上半期“本”ランキング 2019」を発表。BOOK総合部門では、昨年9月に亡くなった女優・樹木希林さんの『一切なりゆき 樹木希林のことば』が90.0万部を売り上げ、新書初の1位を獲得。本作以外にも樹木さん関連著作が複数ランクインした。また、シーンをにぎわせている写真集では、生田絵梨花が上半期歴代最高売上を記録したほか、坂道グループ関連作品がTOP10中7作ランクインとシーンをけん引した。 7ページ目

www.oricon.co.jp

 

[MangAniMY]

everything exactly as "predicted"

 

[SharkBait]

Oricon Rankings for the first half of 2019 are out right?
Volumes: https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2136418/
https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53075/6/
Series:

【2019年 上半期本ランキング】樹木希林さん書籍が好調、新書初の上半期1位　生田絵梨花写真集は上半期歴代最高売上 7ページ目

「第12回オリコン上半期“本”ランキング 2019」を発表。BOOK総合部門では、昨年9月に亡くなった女優・樹木希林さんの『一切なりゆき 樹木希林のことば』が90.0万部を売り上げ、新書初の1位を獲得。本作以外にも樹木さん関連著作が複数ランクインした。また、シーンをにぎわせている写真集では、生田絵梨花が上半期歴代最高売上を記録したほか、坂道グループ関連作品がTOP10中7作ランクインとシーンをけん引した。 7ページ目

www.oricon.co.jp

BLack Clover getting its 300K and WT almost getting a 400K up there, nice. Both definitely over 500K with digital sales incorporated.

--- Double Post Merged, May 28, 2019, Original Post Date: May 28, 2019 ---

Oricon Rankings for the first half of 2019 are out right?
Volumes: https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2136418/
https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53075/6/
Series:

【2019年 上半期本ランキング】樹木希林さん書籍が好調、新書初の上半期1位　生田絵梨花写真集は上半期歴代最高売上 7ページ目

「第12回オリコン上半期“本”ランキング 2019」を発表。BOOK総合部門では、昨年9月に亡くなった女優・樹木希林さんの『一切なりゆき 樹木希林のことば』が90.0万部を売り上げ、新書初の1位を獲得。本作以外にも樹木さん関連著作が複数ランクインした。また、シーンをにぎわせている写真集では、生田絵梨花が上半期歴代最高売上を記録したほか、坂道グループ関連作品がTOP10中7作ランクインとシーンをけん引した。 7ページ目

www.oricon.co.jp

Is the Rank 1-25 comics link actually broken?

 

[Ctkk]

Comparing to last year https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-05-31/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2018/.132243, the numbers seem to be higher all across the board (I mean comparing positions, not series).