Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Mankichi Togawa]

Out of curiosity, Rain, What do you think about Yu-gi-oh?

 

[LuckyJim]

I never watched the Yu Gi Oh anime, but it was one of the first manga I read when the Viz vault became a thing. It was a really fun series, silly for sure, but there was a lot of heart behind it that made for some great moments though. I can't help but feel bad for Jounochi though, he was a great duelist but just not as good as all the people with Egyptian artifacts and god cards.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Out of curiosity, Rain, What do you think about Yu-gi-oh?

Honestly don't have one yet.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Honestly don't have one yet.

You should give a chance. One of best Jump titles ever and also one of most important Jump titles.

I never watched the Yu Gi Oh anime, but it was one of the first manga I read when the Viz vault became a thing. It was a really fun series, silly for sure, but there was a lot of heart behind it that made for some great moments though. I can't help but feel bad for Jounochi though, he was a great duelist but just not as good as all the people with Egyptian artifacts and god cards.

Final was the weakest duel of the Battle City Tournament (still very enjoyable, Obelisk directly attacking Marik was so kino).

Also, Yugi vs Kaiba is still for me the best rivalry Shonen Jump has ever had.


PD: We remember how Jounochi ''beat'' Marik, but we don't remember how Rashid also ''beat'' Jounochi in quarter-finals.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but YGO was the first hit battle manga which showed conflict without actual physical fights, right?

 

[Tamil]

No one talks about YGO season 0 sadly. Understandable since most of us grew up with duel monsters...

 

[Jovan]

No one talks about YGO season 0 sadly. Understandable since most of us grew up with duel monsters...

I read that manga pre-Duel Kingdom part too, and I liked it a lot. Though the beginning was fairly repetitive even if unique.

Ironically the manga started picking up with the first Kaiba vs Yami card duel lol.

 

[Serinox]

Asahi and the Handling of Erina were the only actual issues, everything else was great

Eh, what about the whole concept of "underground, criminal chefs" with the Noirs, the poor handling of literally every side character, the stupid introduction and plot around Mana, the baffling and unworthy tournament structure of BLUE and the shokugekis from the Noir chefs (e.g. cooking with a chainsaw sword, TNT, and a morning star, kidnapping participants with the knowledge of the tournament staff)? That was all pretty bad, imo.

 

[Newkerzy]

Can we all at least agree that Hachimaru's Princess companion seems like she'll be adorable?

At least she had a better introductory chapter than Sakura, for sure.

 

[animeexpert]

https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/weekly-shonen-magazine-news-discussion-kodansha.2998726/

I dont see it, how much does eden sale? Better than most of its magazine?

 

[ShenGao]

I dont see it, how much does eden sale? Better than most of its magazine?

This is the WSJ discussion thread. Eden's Zero isn't a WSJ manga and therefore discussion about it doesn't belong here.

 

[El Jacco]

I remember really liking Duel Monsters when I was younger but I only watched until the horrendous filler arc about the dragons (which tbh, its hilarious) so I never really watched the final of the series, just a few episodes of the final arc.

The only thing I know about the 4Kids fiasco is trough the abridged series that has Yugioh, because what I remember, the spanish dub wasn't really bad unlike the english one. With GX is the same.

 

[Ctkk]

You should give a chance. One of best Jump titles ever and also one of most important Jump titles.



Final was the weakest duel of the Battle City Tournament (still very enjoyable, Obelisk directly attacking Marik was so kino).

Also, Yugi vs Kaiba is still for me the best rivalry Shonen Jump has ever had.


PD: We remember how Jounochi ''beat'' Marik, but we don't remember how Rashid also ''beat'' Jounochi in quarter-finals.

Yu-Gi-Oh is a very interesting case beacuse Duel Monsters is huge in the West (hence why Yugi and Kaiba both made it to Jump Force), but most people aren't familiar with the original manga.

 

[Nemesis]

I only saw the original Yu-gi-oh anime. The manga is on my list to read tho

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

YGO 0 was kino. I read the manga (anime got a filler girl for some reason which almost does nothing to the plot). The RPG against Bakura was amazing.

Without counting One Piece, Naruto, or short anime like Death Note, I think Yu-gi-oh has been the only manga in 90s and 00s to be completely animated (despite having some important changes respect to manga). Not Bleach, Toriko, Slam Dunk, D.Grayman, Reborn!, Kenshin, etc managed to get all the entire manga animated.

The next long manga to get full anime I think it were Kuroko no Basket and Gintama. Tbh I dunno if Hikaru no Go, Eyeshield21, Ichigo100% and Prince of Tennis got complete anime adaptations.

Also, the manga before YGO to get full anime I think it was Yu Yu Hakusho, but not sure at all. Well, Saint Seiya got the complete animation in 00s with the Hades OVAs.

Now things are changing. I wouldn't be surprised if Hero Academia gets complete animation.

 

[Jovan]

I remember really liking Duel Monsters when I was younger but I only watched until the horrendous filler arc about the dragons (which tbh, its hilarious) so I never really watched the final of the series, just a few episodes of the final arc.

The only thing I know about the 4Kids fiasco is trough the abridged series that has Yugioh, because what I remember, the spanish dub wasn't really bad unlike the english one. With GX is the same.

Isnt Waking the Dragons recognized as one of the best arcs in Yu-gi-oh OG anime? I remember loving the arc even if it was a filler.

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YGO 0 was kino. I read the manga (anime got a filler girl for some reason which almost does nothing to the plot). The RPG against Bakura was amazing.

Without counting One Piece, Naruto, or short anime like Death Note, I think Yu-gi-oh has been the only manga in 90s and 00s to be completely animated (despite having some important changes respect to manga). Not Bleach, Toriko, Slam Dunk, D.Grayman, Reborn!, Kenshin, etc managed to get all the entire manga animated.

The next long manga to get full anime I think it were Kuroko no Basket and Gintama. Tbh I dunno if Hikaru no Go, Eyeshield21, Ichigo100% and Prince of Tennis got complete anime adaptations.

Also, the manga before YGO to get full anime I think it was Yu Yu Hakusho, but not sure at all. Well, Saint Seiya got the complete animation in 00s with the Hades OVAs.

Now things are changing. I wouldn't be surprised if Hero Academia gets complete animation.

Oh the Bakura Monster World arc. Final one before the manga rebooted as well. Loved it. Also it has to be said how the art improved so quickly here.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Isnt Waking the Dragons recognized as one of the best arcs in Yu-gi-oh OG anime? I remember loving the arc even if it was a filler.

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Oh the Bakura Monster World arc. Final one before the manga rebooted as well. Loved it. Also it has to be said how the art improved so quickly here.

Yeah, Takahashi art has always been great, but has evolved into something more great. Is amazing the evolution of his art in the manga.

 

[supercow297]

So, is anyone sad about Soma having ended? Anyone miss it?


I'm definitely not cynical -_- Please don't mistake my snarky replies to those who don't know when to stop discussions or to those spreading false data as cynical.
TAKE THAT BACK.

I live in Canada as well. To quote Liam Neeson "I will find you"

MB. If you come find me though it'll be a fun time

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I mean, aside from having the same name, Jump+ is pretty different since it has a different focus compared to WSJ, it has varied schedules as it's digital and even different editors so it's not like they're the same thing.

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I don't remember any case of manga on Jump made by people below 20 yo. What are you talking about?

They're trying to promote a lot of young artists via one-shots and GIGA and Jump+ which I think is an unhealthy mindset, that's all I mean. e.g. Masaoki Shindou.

 

[Rain Spectre]

MB. If you come find me though it'll be a fun time

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They're trying to promote a lot of young artists via one-shots and GIGA and Jump+ which I think is an unhealthy mindset, that's all I mean. e.g. Masaoki Shindou.

How dare they use their secondary platforms to give up and coming creators exposure! What sacrilege!

Also, haven't they always been doing this.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

How dare they use their secondary platforms to give up and coming creators exposure! What sacrilege!

Also, haven't they always been doing this.

Yup! After all, rookies have to start somewhere, and GIGA is part of a long tradition of seasonal magazines that do just that. Jump+ is a bit of a different story, but a pretty cool one as the digital platform has enabled their editorial to take more risks on younger or more unusual talent. All positive stuff really