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Well, in this match, it is supposed that The One last as long as the other characters power.

That is a basic rule in Versus match.
Pretty unfair considering that's entirely unrealistic.

If Escanor has permanent noon status, then let's give Elizabeth her 8 light wings power boost for the entire fight despite it draining her entirely.

Although, it wouldn't effect him.as badly as a Demon, since he is Human here.
It would still be pretty devastating for a human who harms himself with the sun grace and has no arsenal outside of the grace.
 

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Pretty unfair considering that's entirely unrealistic.

If Escanor has permanent noon status, then let's give Elizabeth her 8 light wings power boost for the entire fight despite it draining her entirely.



It would still be pretty devastating for a human who harms himself with the sun grace and has no arsenal outside of the grace.
She doesn't have a 8 light wings mode lol, that is just her using a full power which as we saw, drained her so much that she passed out which is dangerous in a fight.

She will be at the mercy of her opponent.

The One doesn't pass out unlike her and like I said, he eclipses her in physical stats like speed, strength and durability.

He is just the Saitama of the NNT verse.

Hell, he eclipses in physical strength any Goddess and Demon beside Noon Mael, Gods ( 3 Gods ), Purgatory Ban and Wild.

One strike of his hand and it is over for her.

Ark would never hurt him in the One mode.

Hell, Escanor in the One seems invulnerable. Difficult to gauge him as he basically one shot everyone in that mode.
 

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The only times Escanor used ''The One'' was when he was in an enclosed space, where his enemy was forced to engage him rather than potentially delay or evade him.

Assuming this is an open space, what's stopping Elizabeth from flying up into the sky and using her ark at Escanor whilst waiting for noon to be over and then finish him at 12:01+ where he's weaker than 142,000?

Escanor can't win this IMO.

Now if this was Mael, the result would be the other way around.
Escanor can jump to high distance just like the hulk
 

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She doesn't have a 8 light wings mode lol, that is just her using a full power which as we saw, drained her so much that she passed out which is dangerous in a fight.
it's clearly a power-up

If Escanor has permanent noon status then Elizabeth can use her power-up for an infinite duration, it's only fair.

The One doesn't pass out unlike her and like I said, he eclipses her in physical stats like speed, strength and durability.
The Sun Grace literally kills him.

If he had it permanently, he'd die.

Hell, Escanor in the One seems invulnerable.
No, he's perfectly defeat able.
 

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Where has this been shown?
Not shown but Escanor is fast and again we saw in ch 142 when Escanor first appeared against galan and after the fight he jumped off to somewhere else and came after sunset, yeah that's him at his 50k and now in One he is far stronger than that, he can easily jump to large distances easily
 

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it's clearly a power-up

If Escanor has permanent noon status then Elizabeth can use her power-up for an infinite duration, it's only fair.



The Sun Grace literally kills him.

If he had it permanently, he'd die.



No, he's perfectly defeat able.
Bo it isn't, she just use her magic power at her peak, which drained her more as we saw.

A power up state mark a change, she didn't change lol.

The One is a transformation, that is why he has that rule in cross verse battle unlike the rule inside his own verse with that one minute.

Even one minute is enough and he can one shot her along with Ludo and Zeldoris at the same time even lol.

Yes, it kill him but obviously after he knocked or killed her, he will die with the grace over destroying him.

Well, she can't defeat in any shape the One Escanor.

I can't see how, he is a monster beyond monster, Look at his face in the One and his appareance.

That shit is difficult to imagine losing.
 

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Not shown but Escanor is fast and again we saw in ch 142 when Escanor first appeared against galan and after the fight he jumped off to somewhere else and came after sunset, yeah that's him at his 50k and now in One he is far stronger than that, he can easily jump to large distances easily
Sure, but how far can he jump?

Even if he can jump to the sky, it's still inferior to someone who can naturally fly.

Unless he literally jumps and outmanoeuvres her whilst she's in the sky, what can Escanor do?
 

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Where has this been shown?
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It's one minute though, once noon is over Escanor loses all hope of victory.

-11:59/12:01+ he could barely deal with a 142k Mel, Elizabeth wins.
One minute is enough we just saw his karate chop and a finger poke, he has punches, kicks, tank tops, tackles, elbow stunners and one mode cruel sun which he can throw towards Eliz and also he has holy amarment which he uses his rhitta and and big cruel sun emerges from it yeaall that in one mode that would be super devastating it would just make Eliz a mince meat
 

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Bo it isn't, she just use her magic power at her peak, which drained her more as we saw.

A power up state mark a change, she didn't change lol.
Her wings changed, the expression of a Goddesses strength had a physical alteration.

It's no different than to Meliodas demonic mark changing & getting stronger.

ven one minute is enough and he can one shot her along with Ludo and Zeldoris at the same time even lol.
Lol what? He didn't one-shot Zeldoris and where is it implied he could even touch Ludoshel?

That shitty Merlin called him

I don't want to say it.
He's not invincible, otherwise let's have Escanor solo the entire series.
 

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Sure, but how far can he jump?

Even if he can jump to the sky, it's still inferior to someone who can naturally fly.

Unless he literally jumps and outmanoeuvres her whilst she's in the sky, what can Escanor do?
Well 26k galan could jump miles so One Escanor is far beyond that he can easily jump hundreds of miles easily
 

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One minute is enough we just saw his karate chop and a finger poke, he has punches, kicks, tank tops, tackles, elbow stunners and one mode cruel sun which he can throw towards Eliz and also he has holy amarment which he uses his rhitta and and big cruel sun emerges from it yeaall that in one mode that would be super devastating it would just make Eliz a mince meat
But the point is, because she's in the sky none of those physical attacks can reach her - and if they can, what's stopping her from dodging, shielding or healing the damage?

60 seconds isn't a lot. He has a single minute to defeat her whilst Elizabeth has the rest of the day.

We have no idea how powerful his magic is, so going off speculation - I'm not going to agree that his ''cruel sun'' in ''The One'' could overpower Elizabeth's ark.
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Well 26k galan could jump miles so One Escanor is far beyond that he can easily jump hundreds of miles easily
He could travel for miles, but that doesn't necessarily extend to him being effective in a sky battle.
 

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Her wings changed, the expression of a Goddesses strength had a physical alteration.

It's no different than to Meliodas demonic mark changing & getting stronger.



Lol what? He didn't one-shot Zeldoris and where is it implied he could even touch Ludoshel?



He's not invincible, otherwise let's have Escanor solo the entire series.
Nope, it remained the same unlike Meliodas's demon mark WHICH STAY and don't leave.

False equivalence.

Otaku, please stop, I hate Escanor but his strength is undeniable in the One.

Yes, he one shoted Zeldoris when he finally get a grip into his body, he literally fingered him.

She will get the finger too.

Ludo looked like a joke here in front of the One.

Yes, he isn't Invincible, no one is Invincible unless your name is TOAA or Kami Tenchi, Google them to get what I mean.

Only true omnipotent being is Invincible.

But still, Elizabeth and Ludo can't do shit on the One Escanor, even if they were together.
 

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Her wings changed, the expression of a Goddesses strength had a physical alteration.

It's no different than to Meliodas demonic mark changing & getting stronger.



Lol what? He didn't one-shot Zeldoris and where is it implied he could even touch Ludoshel?



He's not invincible, otherwise let's have Escanor solo the entire series.
Invincible is not unbeatable it's just someone too strong to beat not totally impossible to beat.
Escanor in a way did one shot zeldris after destroying the ON barrier just that Chandler deactivated it
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But the point is, because she's in the sky none of those physical attacks can reach her - and if they can, what's stopping her from dodging, shielding or healing the damage?

60 seconds isn't a lot. He has a single minute to defeat her whilst Elizabeth has the rest of the day.

We have no idea how powerful his magic is, so going off speculation - I'm not going to agree that his ''cruel sun'' in ''The One'' could overpower Elizabeth's ark.
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He could travel for miles, but that doesn't necessarily extend to him being effective in a sky battle.
He would just jump in her font finger poke and it's over.
His finger pokes and slight karate chops can do so much then cruel sun is something from another dimension
 

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The only times Escanor used ''The One'' was when he was in an enclosed space, where his enemy was forced to engage him rather than potentially delay or evade him.

Assuming this is an open space, what's stopping Elizabeth from flying up into the sky and using her ark at Escanor whilst waiting for noon to be over and then finish him at 12:01+ where he's weaker than 142,000?

Escanor can't win this IMO.

Now if this was Mael, the result would be the other way around.
Assuming Escanor is just slow or lacks ranged attacks is silly. Escanor stomps her into the dirt.
 

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Otaku, please stop, I hate Escanor but his strength is undeniable in the One.

Yes, he one shoted Zeldoris when he finally get a grip into his body, he literally fingered him.

She will get the finger too.
How can you ask me to stop when you're implying Escanor is going to finger Elizabeth?

Excuse me sir.

Assuming Escanor is just slow or lacks ranged attacks is silly. Escanor stomps her into the dirt.
I'm not assuming he's slow at all, in fact I think he would be faster than her - but that doesn't always decide the fight.
 

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I can't believe that we are arguing if Elizabeth can defeat The One Escanor.

Even inside my imagination, I can't see it possible when I picture the One Escanor.

He is scary appareance wise lol.
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How can you ask me to stop when you're implying Escanor is going to finger Elizabeth?

Excuse me sir.



I'm not assuming he's slow at all, in fact I think he would be faster than her - but that doesn't always decide the fight.
Yes, he will finger her and she is beyond dead lol if he get close to her, her only hope is that she never is close to him, NEVER.

Her durability was already pathetic, remember?
 

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Her light wing mode is literally nothing and it didnt do anything to induras. Elizabeth has no speed, strength, durability as she almost got killed by a boulder who escanor can tank in his day form.
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How can you ask me to stop when you're implying Escanor is going to finger Elizabeth?

Excuse me sir.



I'm not assuming he's slow at all, in fact I think he would be faster than her - but that doesn't always decide the fight.
Actually speed decides that factor. Escanor is far faster than zeldris could react using his divine spear, meanwhile Elizabeth couldn't resct to any attacks in any of her fights.
 

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Pretty sure Escanor can fly on a Cruel Sun like he did against Estarossa
 
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